THE College Football Playoff Rankings Thread [MICH,WASH,TEX,ALA]

[Dahobbs 17534]

2 minutes ago, Texas Jeff said:

Here's the list of P5 non-conference ranked opponents faced by the current top 8 teams:

• #11 Texas vs #3 Alabama
• #6 Ohio St vs #9 Notre Dame
• #8 Florida St vs #5 LSU
• Michigan, Washington, Oregon, Georgia vs nobody

There aren't enough games between conferences to determine who is better.  The committee is just picking the four 12-0 teams this week.

If you wanted to pick a weak conference ... well .... the SEC went 0-2 in those top games, both upsets, both by double digits.

 

 

Using the rankings at the time is pointless. 

[Sir Ulrich 5187]

13 minutes ago, Hmbre97 said:

Rece Davis asking the tough questions to the committee. 

 

Oh, what's this? Week 14 AP Poll?

 

Speaking of the polls. Why is this guy allowed anywhere near our facilities?

[MIkeHoncho 1911]

13 minutes ago, Hmbre97 said:

Rece Davis asking the tough questions to the committee. 

 

Oh, what's this? Week 14 AP Poll?

 

Almost like he's a real journalist - he may have his own opinion, but he asks legit questions when doing his job.  Such a tool. 

[Matagorda 118]

3 minutes ago, Old Freak Nasty said:

The scenario seem pretty clear for us to get in.  More interestingly, tell me who to root for this weekend for us to get a first round date with FSU.  Is there any way that can be the 2-3 game?

Iowa destroys Michigan, georgia gets pounded by Alabama and the Pac 12 champ game gets hit by an asteroid.  
 

even then maybe the buckeye slips in aHead of us 

[ChiTownDoc 21154]

7 minutes ago, Dahobbs said:

It's the same simple. A non conference champ has never gotten in over a conference champ of equal record. Multiple times a conference champ has jumped a non conference of champ of equal record. Maybe this is the year they blow a decade of precedent. But I feel like that is substantially less likely than both Alabama and Texas getting in if it is a three way race between them and Oregon. So I'll root for the option that provides the most pathways for Texas to advance. 

Man, no idea what you're looking at but even with Oregon and UW leaving the PAC, there's WAY too much sentimental shit out there for the PAC. Oregon or Washington are 100% guaranteed to get in.  

[MIkeHoncho 1911]

Ultimately, this guy just gave us more bulletin board material - he said Oregon continues to dominate.  Well, we just need to pound osu by about 40 and then let the cards fall where they may. 

[Dahobbs 17534]

3 minutes ago, Old Freak Nasty said:

The scenario seem pretty clear for us to get in.  More interestingly, tell me who to root for this weekend for us to get a first round date with FSU.  Is there any way that can be the 2-3 game?

Hmm. Iowa, FSU, Alabama, and Washington maybe? Washington #1, FSU #2, Texas #3, and Alabama #4? 

[Hank_Hill 18807]

FSU loss with a Washington win is my ideal scenario. I don’t want Oregon even sniffing the playoffs at this point.

[Old Freak Nasty 821]

What does a 3 team ML parlay pay: UM, Georgia, and FSU?  Seems that's the only scenario that keeps us out (other than us losing).

[HOOKEM4 5037]

Root for Texas to win and be happy we get to show the Dawgs what's up again. If we get in, treat it like an early Christmas gift. We are gonna get shut out. It is what it is.

[SomeoneYouKnow2 235]

2 minutes ago, ChiTownDoc said:

Man, no idea what you're looking at but even with Oregon and UW leaving the PAC, there's WAY too much sentimental shit out there for the PAC. Oregon or Washington are 100% guaranteed to get in.  

Nope. Washington is 100% getting in if they win. If Oregon wins, it isn't 100%. Sure, are the odds high? Yes, especially since the committee has repeatedly put them over us. I'm not arguing that. But, if it's down to Oregon and Texas, the committee at least has to answer themselves. Even if Oregon has a 99% chance, that still gives Texas a chance. Texas has no chance with Washington winning.

Some of y'all are being intentionally obtuse.

[The_Great_Hornsby 3236]

Just now, Sir Ulrich said:

Speaking of the polls. Why is this guy allowed anywhere near our facilities?

He is a punk ass bitch who voted for Reggie Bush over Vince Young. 

[Dahobbs 17534]

2 minutes ago, ChiTownDoc said:

Man, no idea what you're looking at but even with Oregon and UW leaving the PAC, there's WAY too much sentimental shit out there for the PAC. Oregon or Washington are 100% guaranteed to get in.  

I'm betting on the pro SEC sentiment, our head to head win versus Bama, and oregon's downy soft SOS. The committee will want to take Bama. But they'll have heart burn leaving us out given the head to head. SOS and games against common opponents (both literal criteria in the committee guidelines) give the committee an easy way to drop Oregon. 

3 minutes ago, Hank_Hill said:

FSU loss with a Washington win is my ideal scenario. I don’t want Oregon even sniffing the playoffs at this point.

Washington is a worse matchup for us. 

[TrashMaster G 17557]

They ask the committee head about why they like Oregon so much and he talks about Bo Nix's completion percentage??? What the ever-loving fuck? WHY should the committee give a single damn about a stat like that?

[Knighthawk 284]

Well the disrespect works in our favor.   A pissed off Texas will kick the shit out of osu.   

when it comes to Oregon, it’s the Bo Nix heisman hype we need to overcome.  Think a little orthogonally here.   So who on our roster would be be a bigger playoff tv draw than big bad Bo nix?   Well it’s simple.   Young Arch Manning subbing in for a hurt QE and blowing out OSU is all it would take.  

[MonkeyDoughnut 10235]

2 minutes ago, SomeoneYouKnow2 said:

Nope. Washington is 100% getting in if they win. If Oregon wins, it isn't 100%. Sure, are the odds high? Yes, especially since the committee has repeatedly put them over us. I'm not arguing that. But, if it's down to Oregon and Texas, the committee at least has to answer themselves. Even if Oregon has a 99% chance, that still gives Texas a chance. Texas has no chance with Washington winning.

Some of y'all are being intentionally obtuse.

BOTH teams are currently ranked ahead of us in the CFP... one team (either) beats a team ahead of us in the CFP and you saying there is a chance the committee drops the winner below us?

[Radical Larry 28620]

Well, hell has finally frozen over.

[ChiTownDoc 21154]

5 minutes ago, SomeoneYouKnow2 said:

Nope. Washington is 100% getting in if they win. If Oregon wins, it isn't 100%. Sure, are the odds high? Yes, especially since the committee has repeatedly put them over us. I'm not arguing that. But, if it's down to Oregon and Texas, the committee at least has to answer themselves. Even if Oregon has a 99% chance, that still gives Texas a chance. Texas has no chance with Washington winning.

Some of y'all are being intentionally obtuse.

Of course - I agree.  But I started all this saying you want two things and it's 100% you're in.  FSU loss.  Georgia win.  Then you're in no matter what.  Someone else brought up the over Oregon path.  It gets no simpler than Georgia win and FSU loss.  But I got pushback on that hearing about some path with Oregon etc.  No, just those two things.  You wanna talk about simple?  What path is more simple than that?  

[Hermanator 7050]

1 hour ago, BurntOrange&White said:

We only need FSU to lose, it's that simple. 

Possibly, but I'm not confident they don't put a 1 loss Georgia ahead of us. Not at all confident. This is the last year of this so they're "fired" after this one and can do whatever craziness they want. 

[Dahobbs 17534]

2 minutes ago, MonkeyDoughnut said:

BOTH teams are currently ranked ahead of us in the CFP... one team (either) beats a team ahead of us in the CFP and you saying there is a chance the committee drops the winner below us?

If Bama beats Georgia, yes. 

[ChiTownDoc 21154]

3 minutes ago, Knighthawk said:

Well the disrespect works in our favor.   A pissed off Texas will kick the shit out of osu.   

when it comes to Oregon, it’s the Bo Nix heisman hype we need to overcome.  Think a little orthogonally here.   So who on our roster would be be a bigger playoff tv draw than big bad Bo nix?   Well it’s simple.   Young Arch Manning subbing in for a hurt QE and blowing out OSU is all it would take.  

Gimme what you're smoking.  Nobody will give one flying fuck about you guys beating OSU as bad as UCF did.  LOL

[Valmy77 13226]

14 minutes ago, Sir Ulrich said:

Speaking of the polls. Why is this guy allowed anywhere near our facilities?

What? He is fucking doing it again?

He groveled and begged for forgiveness for 2005 and he fucking just does it again? He probably voted us #3 in 2008 to. Fuck him forever man. 

[MuellerHorn 4247]

1 hour ago, billfromlaketravis said:

The committee has a hard on for Oregon. We need them to beat UW because we’re not passing them. 

Lesser hard on for Ohio State, but still full chubb. The CFP bangs the table all the time about conference championships, so we should move in front of Ohio State with a win. 

We also need a Louisville win.
 

It sounds like a crazy parlay. I’m trying to talk myself into it. Oregon should beat UW. Florida State is starting a back up QB against an 11 win team on a neutral field. I just have this gut feeling the Cards let us down.

And we're not passing UW if they win either. The result of the PAC12 title game doesn't matter to Texas.

[Jewish Wang 111]

7 minutes ago, Hank_Hill said:

FSU loss with a Washington win is my ideal scenario. I don’t want Oregon even sniffing the playoffs at this point.

This plus Georgia win is the only way to root. It is mindnumbing and ludicrous that posters not only disagree with this but also are ridiculing others for having the most logical take. 

[Wilcox Cummingtonite 2948]

1 hour ago, Dahobbs said:

The really nice thing here: media people have no say. 

[chemHORN 1239]

5 minutes ago, ChiTownDoc said:

Gimme what you're smoking.  Nobody will give one flying fuck about you guys beating OSU as bad as UCF did.  LOL

It isn't about who we beat, it's about we would he the Big 12 Champs and the committee has shown they give conference champions the nod over non champions in the past. 

[ChickenNuggets 1626]

15 minutes ago, Hank_Hill said:

If FSU loses and Bama wins both Texas and Bama go. Simple.

Quit rooting for Bama... same people that are rooting for Bama this weekend are the ones who rooted for OU to lose during regular season, which really fucked us. Our ticket to the CFP was OU winning out and us beating them in the BIG 12 championship. If Bama wins, you can bet your ass the committee will try to put both Georgia and Bama in.. We'll have a Pac 12, Big 10, SEC playoff.

Our hope right now is Washington wins, Georgia wins, Michigan wins, and Louisville wins. Oregon would be out and we'd jump Ohio state as a 12-1 conference champ to their 11-1 regular season record.

Can someone please explain to me why y'all insist it's good for Alabama to beat Georgia?

3 minutes ago, The_Great_Hornsby said:

He is a punk ass bitch who voted for Reggie Bush over Vince Young. 

Kirk Bohls needs to explain his rankings cause they make no sense to me. He's always been the guy to throw Texas under the bus at every chance. Kinda like Jeff Ward on his radio program.

[Hank_Hill 18807]

1 minute ago, ChickenNuggets said:

Quit rooting for Bama... same people that are rooting for Bama this weekend are the ones who rooted for OU to lose during regular season, which really fucked us. Our ticket to the CFP was OU winning out and us beating them in the BIG 12 championship. If Bama wins, you can bet your ass the committee will try to put both Georgia and Bama in.. We'll have a Pac 12, Big 10, SEC playoff.

Our hope right now is Washington wins, Georgia wins, Michigan wins, and Louisville wins. Oregon would be out and we'd jump Ohio state as a 12-1 conference champ to their 11-1 regular season record.

Can someone please explain to me why y'all insist it's good for Alabama to beat Georgia?

Kirk Bohls needs to explain his rankings cause they make no sense to me. He's always been the guy to throw Texas under the bus at every chance. Kinda like Jeff Ward on his radio program.

Where did I root for Bama? It just doesn’t matter who wins the SEC if FSU loses. Don’t be dense. 

[ChiTownDoc 21154]

2 minutes ago, chemHORN said:

It isn't about who we beat, it's about we would he the Big 12 Champs and the committee has shown they give conference champions the nod over non champions in the past. 

Yes that data point has you easily jump tOSU.  Just saying you're gonna get the nation's attention by brutalizing OSU?  *That was the post I replied to.*  Some fan fic about abusing OSU and Arch coming in for an injured Ewers to deliver an even bigger beat down than UCF did a month ago.  That means jack shit. 

[markstanco 12577]

I hope for some weird shit but hell of a season if not.

[billfromlaketravis 11481]

5 minutes ago, MuellerHorn said:

And we're not passing UW if they win either. The result of the PAC12 title game doesn't matter to Texas.

Correction.c title game cancels out 1 team. 

Edited November 29, 2023 by billfromlaketravis

[Alien Octopus 516]

1 hour ago, Hmbre97 said:

Nah, I'm not worried about Alabama unless they run Georgia out of the building like we did Tech. We have poll momentum over them much like Oregon has over us. There is no interesting story with Alabama either; no possible heisman winner, fatigue of seeing Bama in the playoff, our H2H win. 

I'd eat a pile of white crusted over dog shit if Alabama pulled out a squeeker over Georgia and got in over us if we handle our business vs OSU.

With or without utensils? 

[Nueces River Rat 5539]

2 hours ago, mdmost said:

Again, no. If Michigan loses, it only makes Ohio State look worse. If Michigan loses that only helps us if we win. 

Doesn’t matter.  The committee will decide the Big10 deserves a spot in the top four.     Kind of like all these years they stuck Norte Dame in there.    It didn’t matter they played a shit schedule, they were Norte Dame and the Big 10 schools like OSU and Michigan are treated the same.   
 

I looked at the bios of the members of this committee.   There isn’t one member on there who looks like they would be an ally for Texas when push comes to shove .   It’s skewed with members who have been involved either through their own education or careers in PAC 12, ACC and Big 10 country, particularly Ohio.     Biases matter.   

Edited November 29, 2023 by Nueces River Rat

[blutow 238]

As far as game watching - 

I'll be pulling for Oregon Friday night (even if we don't have a shot at jumping them, I'd rather play them vs. Washington in the playoffs)

Saturday AM - Pulling for Texas

Saturday Afternoon - pulling for Bama 

Saturday Night - Pulling for Louisville and Iowa

We are way, way overdue for some upsets in these top teams this season.  Odds are very good that at least one will happen.  As long as it's not Washington or OSU, we'll have a shot. There would be nothing sweeter than Iowa over Michigan (a guy can dream).  

 

 

[Hank_Hill 18807]

1 minute ago, Nueces River Rat said:

Doesn’t matter.  The committee will decide the Big10 deserves a spot in the top four.     Kind of like all these years they stuck Norte Dame in there.    It didn’t matter they played a shit schedule, they were Norte Dame and the Big 10 schools like OSU and Michigan are treated the same.   
 

I looked the bios of the members of this committee.   There isn’t one member on there who looks like the would be an ally for Texas when push comes to shove .   It’s skewed with members who have been involved either through their own education or careers in PAC 12, ACC and Big 10 country, particularly Ohio.     Biases matter.   

Lol now we’re getting a 1-loss big 10 loser in? Christ people. 

Edited November 29, 2023 by Hank_Hill

[Dahobbs 17534]

2 minutes ago, Jewish Wang said:

This plus Georgia win is the only way to root. It is mindnumbing and ludicrous that posters not only disagree with this but also are ridiculing others for having the most logical take. 

It isn't logical. You're rooting for a scenario that locks us in to a single possibility to advance. If all games were played simultaneously, maybe it makes sense. But since we will not know the outcomes at the same time, we will want each outcome to give us the highest number of chances to advance. This is simple game theory. 

 

[ChickenNuggets 1626]

1 hour ago, billfromlaketravis said:

The committee has a hard on for Oregon. We need them to beat UW because we’re not passing them. 

Lesser hard on for Ohio State, but still full chubb. The CFP bangs the table all the time about conference championships, so we should move in front of Ohio State with a win. 

We also need a Louisville win.
 

It sounds like a crazy parlay. I’m trying to talk myself into it. Oregon should beat UW. Florida State is starting a back up QB against an 11 win team on a neutral field. I just have this gut feeling the Cards let us down.

I might be retarded here - Alex Jones reference... 

But Washington sits at 12-0, Oregon sits at 11-1, Texas sits at 11-1... If Texas wins, we are 12-1 conference champ. If Washington wins they are 13-0 conference champs and Oregon sits at 11-2 conference loser. So why would you think it's better for Oregon to beat Washington?

[Valmy77 13226]

7 minutes ago, ChickenNuggets said:

 

Kirk Bohls needs to explain his rankings cause they make no sense to me. He's always been the guy to throw Texas under the bus at every chance. Kinda like Jeff Ward on his radio program.

Back when he first started covering Texas I put up with his sarcasm and mocking of the program because we did suck at the time. I thought he was just being fair.

But no, when Texas is good he does the same shit. He will attempt to damage and undermine and thwart our program every chance he gets and has. Then he won't even stick to his guns and then whines and cries. 

I don't even understand it. Texas playing in CFP or the BCS title game or Vince winning the Heisman would only help him and the Statesman. But I guess Curt feels differently.

Edited November 29, 2023 by Valmy77

[ChickenNuggets 1626]

2 minutes ago, blutow said:

As far as game watching - 

I'll be pulling for Oregon Friday night (even if we don't have a shot at jumping them, I'd rather play them vs. Washington in the playoffs)

Saturday AM - Pulling for Texas

Saturday Afternoon - pulling for Bama 

Saturday Night - Pulling for Louisville and Iowa

We are way, way overdue for some upsets in these top teams this season.  Odds are very good that at least one will happen.  As long as it's not Washington or OSU, we'll have a shot. There would be nothing sweeter than Iowa over Michigan (a guy can dream).  

 

 

this is almost all wrong. lolol... glad your rooting has no impact on the outcome. haha.

[Vertuzzi 1369]

Ohio State isn’t getting in. Texas gets into the playoff with a win and an FSU and Alabama loss. A spot in the CFP has been reserved for the PAC12 team that wins on Saturday. Get over it. 
 

Go Cardinals and go dawgs! (And go Hawkeyes…lol) 

[Valmy77 13226]

I think Oregon and Bama need to lose. I don't want to have to compete with one loss Georgia and a one loss Washington if FSU losses. Best to eliminate Oregon and Bama. The winner of the SEC and Pac 12 are almost certainly going anyway.

[ChickenNuggets 1626]

6 minutes ago, Hank_Hill said:

Where did I root for Bama? It just doesn’t matter who wins the SEC if FSU loses. Don’t be dense. 

You don't see a possibility for the CFP committee to royally fuck us by putting both Georgia AND Bama in the playoffs along with Big10 and Pac12 champs? I sure as hell do... and that only happens with a Bama win. Don't be obtuse... 

 

[Nicole44 22060]

43 minutes ago, Surly Bevo said:

When does the McRib and Chicken Fried Steak show up?

 

[ChickenNuggets 1626]

6 minutes ago, Dahobbs said:

It isn't logical. You're rooting for a scenario that locks us in to a single possibility to advance. If all games were played simultaneously, maybe it makes sense. But since we will not know the outcomes at the same time, we will want each outcome to give us the highest number of chances to advance. This is simple game theory. 

 

is your degree in economics?

[blutow 238]

2 minutes ago, ChickenNuggets said:

So why would you think it's better for Oregon to beat Washington?

Because there is zero chance of us beating out 13-0 washington for a spot.  It's unlikely at this point we jump 12-1 Oregon based on the committee love for them, but it's a greater than zero chance and an argument could be made.  Oregon winning increases our odds vs Washington winning.  It's pretty simple.  

[Nueces River Rat 5539]

8 minutes ago, Hank_Hill said:

Lol now we’re getting a 1-loss big 10 loser in? Christ people. 

Yes…

[dec3169 501]

22 minutes ago, ChiTownDoc said:

Of course - I agree.  But I started all this saying you want two things and it's 100% you're in.  FSU loss.  Georgia win.  Then you're in no matter what.  Someone else brought up the over Oregon path.  It gets no simpler than Georgia win and FSU loss.  But I got pushback on that hearing about some path with Oregon etc.  No, just those two things.  You wanna talk about simple?  What path is more simple than that?  

Add in a Michigan loss to Iowa (unlikely) and it becomes infinitely simpler.

[ChickenNuggets 1626]

2 minutes ago, blutow said:

Because there is zero chance of us beating out 13-0 washington for a spot.  It's unlikely at this point we jump 12-1 Oregon based on the committee love for them, but it's a greater than zero chance and an argument could be made.  Oregon winning increases our odds vs Washington winning.  It's pretty simple.  

did you read what I wrote? Oregon will have 2 losses at that point, we will jump them if Washington beats them... there's no way 2 pac 12 teams go into the playoffs. 

[SomeoneYouKnow2 235]

3 minutes ago, Valmy77 said:

I think Oregon and Bama need to lose. I don't want to have to compete with one loss Georgia and a one loss Washington if FSU losses. Best to eliminate Oregon and Bama. The winner of the SEC and Pac 12 are almost certainly going anyway.

This is fine thinking if you just assume FSU loses. If FSU wins and Oregon and Bama lose, then we are absolutely out of it and no one complains. If those teams win, then at least there's discussion. Plus, what has been reiterated countless times in this thread about 1-loss conference champs vs 1-loss non conference champs.

 

If FSU, Washington, and Georgia all lose, congrats - Bama, Oregon, and Texas take their place. It's simple

[CfRhTxStBobcats 600]

3 hours ago, The_Great_Hornsby said:

We get in with an FSU loss

This thread should have ended with this post. Or one similar back on page 1.