THE College Football Playoff Rankings Thread [MICH,WASH,TEX,ALA]

[Buzzrock 14902]

3 minutes ago, FtheBig12 said:

If we get left out we absolutely need to cancel the Michigan game next year. It will be clear that out of conference games mean nothing to the committee.

Why take a cupcake off the schedule?

[Dahobbs 17526]

4 minutes ago, Make em eat Taco Bell said:

true.

IMO, Texas and Bama are the 2 best teams right now.  Bama because Milroe is much better than the first half of the season. 

He really isn't. He looks the exact same. And Bama's oline is still not very good, especially their center. They just haven't played another dline like ours. Bama panicked for no reason. 

Edited December 3, 2023 by Dahobbs

[FtheBig12 176]

1 minute ago, RichUT said:

Irrelevant here. That process was math driven and included the coaches poll where there was outright fuckery to keep us out of the title game.

Not saying that the committee will absolutely be above fuckery, but this process should theoretically remove the type of bias that bit us in the ass back then.

We've been dealing with bias all season I don't know what you think it would be any different now. We have no one on the committee to speak on our behalf considering our own conference would love to see us left out.

[Goredho 17395]

The most logical and defensible choice is Michigan, Washington, FSU and Texas.

Which means it will probably be Michigan, Bama, Georgia and Notre Dame.

[FtheBig12 176]

2 minutes ago, Buzzrock said:

Why take a cupcake off the schedule?

I mean yeah that's funny but honestly they're a good team and since the committee doesn't care about good ooc matchups why put our players through a physical matchup going into SEC play? Injuries have been a problem as it is

Edited December 3, 2023 by FtheBig12

[SomeDude 5]

17 minutes ago, Josef Pwag said:

Does the committee go by best team right now? Texas & Bama are in the playoff. 

Does the committee go by on the field results? FSU is in for being undefeated and Texas is in for beating Bama.

Do I think the committee will apply one philosophy to let in Bama and another to let in FSU, thereby screwing Texas? Yes. Unfortunately, I think this is the most likely scenario.

If/when this happens, CDC needs to announce that the Michigan game next season is off. The CFP committee will have made it crystal clear that beating a top tier OOC team on their field by double digits is meaningless. 

Terrible take. Beta

[Blotto 23488]

5 minutes ago, BigHornedLurker said:

I think it will be some permutation of 

Washington , Michigan , Texas , FSU 

And the SEC meltdown will be one for the ages 

If that transpires, we'd be cock-slapping the entire SEC at  once before we ever lace them up for our first conference game. I like it. It sets the tone for our arrival nicely. Now get daddy a drink. 

[MirrOlure 14760]

I think that Louisville was so awful last night that it plausibly cost FSU a spot. In any event…..

If they do let FSU in it’ll have to be as a 4. Then they’ll have to decide who they grant the guaranteed win to, and that’ll be Michigan.

We’ll be playing Washington in the Sugar Bowl

[B00M 6413]

The best argument I’ve seen against putting Bama in over FSU is that it’s based purely on the eye test. The same eye test that had Oregon favored over Washington Friday. 

The games have to matter, otherwise what are we even doing here? Who knows how far FSU’s defense can carry them. 

UM, UW, FSU, UT

 

[RichUT 1832]

We've been dealing with bias all season I don't know what you think it would be any different now. We have no one on the committee to speak on our behalf considering our own conference would love to see us left out.

Jesus with all the fucking PTSD around here. We don’t need someone from the broke ass Big 12 advocating for us. Our play on the field is advocation enough.

Besides, we already won the league. The Big 12 wants us in because then they at least get a check on our way out the door. Plus they’d be able claim a college football title if we won the motherfucker.

In short, take off your fucking tin foil hat and embrace the fact that we’re getting in the motherfucker.

[DonnyKerabatsos 86]

1. Michigan

2. Florida St

3. Texas

4. Alabama

 

the PAC 12 is dead.

[Dahobbs 17526]

Just now, MirrOlure said:

I think that Louisville was so awful last night that it plausibly cost FSU a spot. In any event.

If they do let FSU in it’ll have to be as a 4. Then they’ll have to decide who they grant the guaranteed win to, and that’ll be Michigan.

We’ll be playing Washington in the Sugar Bowl

Yeah. Look, you cant chalk that Louisville performance up to just FSU's defense. Their players were constantly self tackling with plenty of grass in front of them. They couldn't catch. They constantly ran out of bounds for no reason, even when they could have gotten a first down. And of course their QB was... uh ... special. That was just historically bad offensive football. 

[troph 24781]

I’ll be honest, I was with @The_Great_Hornsby on this yesterday, 80/20 Texas over Alabama. Before that PTSD and called it 50/50 if Texas won convincingly. This morning the talking heads are near universal Texas is in. What I didn’t see was FSU out. I didn’t see it as even remotely possible and last night even started rooting for the Noles to keep Bama out.
 

here’s the honest part. I want no fucking part of a national title game or semis that’s a rematch between Bama and Texas. Fuck rematches as the winner before. Not afraid just think rematches introduce a lopsided motivation for the loser of the first game that pisses me off.

Go Noles. 

[G650 14237]

1 minute ago, B00M said:

The best argument I’ve seen against putting Bama in over FSU is that it’s based purely on the eye test. The same eye test that had Oregon favored over Washington Friday. 

The games have to matter, otherwise what are we even doing here? Who knows how far FSU’s defense can carry them. 

UM, UW, FSU, UT

 

So you think FSU and Liberty should be 1 and 2 then

[troph 24781]

4 minutes ago, Blotto said:

If that transpires, we'd be cock-slapping the entire SEC at  once before we ever lace them up for our first conference game. I like it. It sets the tone for our arrival nicely. Now get daddy a drink. 

Yeah fuck the SEC hard core 

[TexasHooch 5122]

This is perfect.  

[Your Mom 4805]

23 minutes ago, Josef Pwag said:

Does the committee go by best team right now? Texas & Bama are in the playoff. 

Does the committee go by on the field results? FSU is in for being undefeated and Texas is in for beating Bama.

Do I think the committee will apply one philosophy to let in Bama and another to let in FSU, thereby screwing Texas? Yes. Unfortunately, I think this is the most likely scenario.

If/when this happens, CDC needs to announce that the Michigan game next season is off. The CFP committee will have made it crystal clear that beating a top tier OOC team on their field by double digits is meaningless. 

So temper tantrum is the way to handle it?  Fuck that. 

[MNLonghornFUKM 8817]

1. Michigan
2. Florida St
3. Texas
4. Alabama
 
the PAC 12 is dead.

Michigan
Texas
Oregon state
Washington state

[Js1 85275]

Going to be the longest 3 hours ever

[Bevo 13566]

I do think the second four are roughly equivalent to the first four.

Washington, Michigan, Texas, FSU

Alabama, Oregon, Georgia, tOSU.

 

Alabama and Georgia would beat Michigan and FSU. tOSU and Oregon would beat FSU. There just isn't a dominant team this year. The trend will probably continue as the portal diminishes depth and eliminates roster holes. This means that it becomes harder for elite teams to pick on weaker opposing players and any injury makes an elite team vulnerable.

[The_highest_of_fives 608]

Joey Galloway has Texas Bama in, and he said it best..”I feel bad for Florida State that Jordan Travis got injured but he was their offense” and followed with a shoulder shrug. 

[burntorangebongos 10710]

Our propensity to schedule OOC games will indeed shake things up in their league. The ones that continue to schedule cupcakes in their 7th week will be ridiculed and punished. OOC games should matter to the health of college football overall. I don't think this is something that the committee will want to squelch with their decisions. FSU practiced it and it helps their case since their league is true dogshit this year. 
Alabama practiced it and even though they lost to us, they have a stout strength of season argument over FSU. 

[Constant 6723]

This would be a kick ass year for a 12 team playoff. 

[Chopper 17230]

1 hour ago, Make em eat Taco Bell said:

they will look at the overall body of work. 

the UH and KSU close games will hurt us.

the OU loss will haunt us forever, and they will rub it in forever. 2023 was the best shot. 

and if Bama gets in over us, the "SEC SEC" chants when Yormark was speaking, will look sillyshitastic dumbfuckenstein. 

 

I wonder how many people there are who, like you, seem to not understand the meaning of the Yormark SEC chant was a polite way of saying "Fuck you Yormark" and not some kind of pointless SEC flex. Alabama, which also has close wins, is not jumping over us when we have h2h on them. They may and should jump over FSU.

Edited December 3, 2023 by Chopper

[MirrOlure 14760]

This would be a kick ass year for a 12 team playoff. 

…and we’d still be agonizing over who gets a top 4 Bye!

[texashorne 1177]

42 minutes ago, burntorangebongos said:

Another way of looking at SOS. If it matters to the committee and head to head matters like they said, then it may be enough for Alabama to overtake FSU with their undefeated championship win. I have it like this. This way, OOC games will continue to be scheduled like Texas and Alabama or tOSU and Oklahoma, otherwise teams won't do that, especially when the playoff games expand. Going undefeated to earn your spot should very important but does it overcome the other two factors? Remember the TCU example when they gave them the nod for going undefeated in a weak ass Big 12 year. I'm sure the committee remembers.
1. Washington

2. Michigan

3. Texas

4. Alabama

 

The SEC plays 3 sisters of the poor schools. 

[TejasPedro 1857]

The most appealing Championship game with the most hype/backstory and manufactured dramatic bullshit would be Texas vs. Bama.

The Rematch 

The Teacher vs the Pupil

Two Historic College Football Programs 

Iconic Uniforms and Mascots

 

[mdmost 42999]

1 hour ago, Make em eat Taco Bell said:

they will look at the overall body of work. 

the UH and KSU close games will hurt us.

the OU loss will haunt us forever, and they will rub it in forever. 2023 was the best shot. 

and if Bama gets in over us, the "SEC SEC" chants when Yormark was speaking, will look sillyshitastic dumbfuckenstein. 

 

Who cares? Did losing to OU lose us the Big 12? No. Could it affect our chances at the playoff? Only in a year where we didn't schedule and win a game against sacred Alabama. If anything, the shitty Big 12 is what holds us back and we're trading that in, finally. Losing by 4 on a neutral site in the final minute to your rival who went on to win 10 games shouldn't "haunt" us. 

We can't control what people with bias do but we damn sure would make it hard for them to justify ignoring the #1 criteria for judging two teams with identical records...head to head. 

Edited December 3, 2023 by mdmost

[Serak The Preparer 3431]

39 minutes ago, immamac said:

It’s simple. If committee wants to send an OOC games matter message Texas and Alabama are in. If they want to send a schedule all the cupcakes message they will put in FSU and Texas (or bama).

best 4 teams include Texas and Bama. 

This makes no sense. If the committee wants to send a message about OOC games then it's Texas and FSU. FSU won OOC games against both Florida and LSU. Texas won OOC game against Alabama. I am not sure if you are aware of this, but Alabama lost their big OOC game. You shouldn't get credit for a big OOC game if you lose at home by double digits.

I do obviously agree that Alabama is better than FSU w/o Travis but it's not because OOC games matter.

Edited December 3, 2023 by Serak The Preparer

[Js1 85275]

What a final year for the 4 team playoff era

the most controversial rankings

the least clear cut race for the last seed in years 

the fighting over who gets the G5 NY6 bid

[nycHorn 2988]

In years past, do they reveal the whole rankings at the beginning and then dig into each bowl matchup or do we have to wait until the end of the show to hear the playoff selections?

[Nicole44 22057]

It will either be elation or anger today. I will be surprised (and ecstatic) if we get in.
 

Basically if we don’t:

If we do get in:

And me:

[mdmost 42999]

Just now, Serak The Preparer said:

This makes no sense. If the committee wants to send a message about OOC games then it's Texas and Alabama. FSU won OOC games against both Florida and LSU. Texas won OOC game against Alabama. I am not sure if you are aware of this, but Alabama lost their big OOC game. You shouldn't get credit for a big OOC game if you lose at home by double digits.

I do obviously agree that Alabama is better than FSU w/o Travis but it's not because OOC games matter.

In most years, Bama isn't hurt by scheduling a tough OOC opponent and losing. Instead, it's the one thing keeping that most likely keeps them out. But next year this would not matter and they wouldn't be penalized. Keeping us out is more damaging to OOC scheduling and the networks know this. 

[HiggyBaby 2529]

This guy gets it


https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaaf/2023/12/03/bowl-projections-college-football-playoff-texas-alabama-florida-state/71731489007/

[USNALonghorn 5078]

Just now, nycHorn said:

In years past, do they reveal the whole rankings at the beginning and then dig into each bowl matchup or do we have to wait until the end of the show to hear the playoff selections?

Playoff teams will be revealed at 1215 EST. Bowl slates will be shown towards the end of the show.

[B00M 6413]

11 minutes ago, G650 said:

So you think FSU and Liberty should be 1 and 2 then

I must’ve missed when Liberty beat LSU, Florida, Clemson, Miami, Louisville, Duke… this is similar to me asking when you stopped beating your wife. 

[The_Great_Hornsby 3236]

1 minute ago, Nicole44 said:

It will either be elation or anger today. I will be surprised (and ecstatic) if we get in.
 

Basically if we don’t:

If we do get in:

And me:

Texas is in 99.999%

[Hondo 682]

9 hours ago, TXpride said:

I think Texas is the 3rd team in, but we could still be the 4th seed.. if that makes sense.

Whichever seed gets us Michigan instead of Washington is fine with me.

[Js1 85275]

1 minute ago, B00M said:

I must’ve missed when Liberty beat LSU, Florida, Clemson, Miami, Louisville, Duke… this is similar to me asking when you stopped beating your wife. 

Liberty basically plays in an FCS conference. But they do deserve the autobid for the G5 NY6 bowl. The MWC and AAC can take a seat trying to argue Boise or SMU deserve it 

[Make em eat Taco Bell 1549]

7 minutes ago, Chopper said:

I wonder how many people there are who, like you, seem to not understand the meaning of the Yormark SEC chant was a polite way of saying "Fuck you Yormark" and not some kind of pointless SEC flex. Alabama, which also has close wins, is not jumping over us when we have h2h on them. They may and should jump over FSU.

yes, it was for Yormark, BUT the dripping irony if Bama gets in over us because the SEC is the best conference based on legend. 

[CockadoodleHorn 40]

What is ridiculous is Georgia had key players that were hobbling around the entire game.  Most good teams would have beaten them yesterday.  Great win for Bama but their problem is they lost to us.  

[The_Great_Hornsby 3236]

Just now, Make em eat Taco Bell said:

yes, it was for Yormark, BUT the dripping irony if Bama gets in over us because the SEC is the best conference based on legend. 

But Bama wont get in over us. So it's all good. 

[G650 14237]

4 minutes ago, B00M said:

I must’ve missed when Liberty beat LSU, Florida, Clemson, Miami, Louisville, Duke… this is similar to me asking when you stopped beating your wife. 

The point is it isn't just the games, never has been. There is always subjective criteria, it's all about where you draw the line.

 

Those teams are all ass btw.

[idigTexas 2284]

48 minutes ago, burntorangebongos said:

Another way of looking at SOS. If it matters to the committee and head to head matters like they said, then it may be enough for Alabama to overtake FSU with their undefeated championship win. I have it like this. This way, OOC games will continue to be scheduled like Texas and Alabama or tOSU and Oklahoma, otherwise teams won't do that, especially when the playoff games expand. Going undefeated to earn your spot should very important but does it overcome the other two factors? Remember the TCU example when they gave them the nod for going undefeated in a weak ass Big 12 year. I'm sure the committee remembers.

The counterpoint to your OOC games argument is FSU/LSU, which FSU won.  The SEC shit the bed in meaningful OOC games this season.  That should matter, but we'll have to wait and see if it does to the committee.  To be clear, Texas is in, and the last spot will come down to FSU and Alabama.  

[MonkeyDoughnut 10229]

1 minute ago, CockadoodleHorn said:

What is ridiculous is Georgia had key players that were hobbling around the entire game.  Most good teams would have beaten them yesterday.  Great win for Bama but their problem is they lost to us.  

That's where the "best" argument loses. Georgia is arguably a better team than everyone including Bama if you don't use the on field results.

Vegas likely would still make Georgia a favorite if they played Alabama tomorrow.

[BabaYaga 15288]

7 minutes ago, TejasPedro said:

The most appealing Championship game with the most hype/backstory and manufactured dramatic bullshit would be Texas vs. Bama.

The Rematch 

The Teacher vs the Pupil

Two Historic College Football Programs 

Iconic Uniforms and Mascots

 

This.   I think the committee still remembers what a monkey-fuck last years game with TCU was vs GA.   It was an awful, awful game.   I don’t know the ratings, but everyone I knew turned it off before it was over.   That would be FSU with their 3rd string QB and dogshit offense.  It would resemble the Iowa game last night.   Slow.  Boring.  And slowly one team would pull away

Just now, MonkeyDoughnut said:

That's where the "best" argument loses. Georgia is arguably a better team than everyone including Bama if you don't use the on field results.

Vegas likely would still make Georgia a favorite if they played Alabama tomorrow.

They had their shot.  

[CoTex 1160]

As long as we’re looking for reasons, Does the committee give us bonus points for having to beat the big12 refs too?  Seems like it should count for something.

[Bozo_Casanova 26437]

Current mood

[Navin R. Johnson 705]

I feel like the entire reason we have a committee is to keep teams like fsu out. Otherwise it’s just using the BCS rankings.

[Jkwellborn 6689]

Georgia wasn’t some dominant team this year. They seem to struggle a lot. It’s not like they were constantly destroying people like in the past.