THE College Football Playoff Rankings Thread [MICH,WASH,TEX,ALA]

[Valmy77 13198]

48 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

 

Man this is sad to read

Yeah it sucks.

[bullet 1596]

58 minutes ago, Michael Knight said:

Its not the SEC it's Alabama and it's not like they didn't prove them right all those years

If you keep getting mulligans, you will start sinking shots.

Saban's great but he's been really lucky, starting with Colt's injury.

[89Horn 1509]

Ewers on the CFP show right now

[dcar00 14101]

1 minute ago, bullet said:

Well Phillips shouldn't have vetoed the 12 team playoff!  We would have had one if Phillips, Warren and Kliavcoff didn't stop the expansion for a year.

this should be plastered everywhere.

[LateAughtsHorn 588]

25 minutes ago, Dbeasy said:

When I go back through my thoughts and predictions, I had this scenario almost right with one major exception.

I predicted undefeated FSU could potentially be out, but with a low probability. That’s because I kept thinking the committee would have Bama passing Texas because of SEC bias, even though it didn’t make sense.

I felt Texas vs FSU for the last spot would be iffy. I figured they would struggle to put Texas in over FSU.  But once I realized that Texas looked so dominant against OSU that they would easily stay ahead of Bama, it was obvious that Bama would win out over FSU after how bad FSU looked last night.

In other words, that terrific performance yesterday by Texas might have been what cemented Texas into the 3rd spot and thus the playoff, keeping committee bias from screwing Texas over. Cheers Sark. 

That September win came through for us imo. There is no way in hell the committee was gonna leave the SECSECSEC out. Once Bama became the SEC representative, they were gonna have a hard time justifying letting them in while leaving us out. 

 

[956 Worldwide 34598]

FSU got fucked. Big-time. I’m a known Aggie and if you forced me to bite the bullet, I’d have said this is the proper slate: 

1. UM

2. UDub

3. FSU

4. Texas by virtue of H2H.

It physically hurts to type that but it’s true. 

If Georgia had won like everyone thought they would, then there’s no convo. Four undefeated conference champs, four slots. FSU got punished because Georgia lost and that’s a cowardly joke. 

[MNLonghornFUKM 8815]

Norvell should spend the month coming up with 3 different packages for 2nd string, 3rd string QB, and wildcat.  
Ga may have a tough time with that D.  

That D is going to be exhausted when it’s on the field all of the time due to the inept offense


Early line is UGA -12.. part of me thinks they destroy FSU..but I’d be hesitant to how much UGA wants to be there

[Valmy77 13198]

9 minutes ago, dcar00 said:

the ultimate "neither team wants to be there" Super Bowl

FSU would probably get a national title from one of those computers or obscure polls if they won. Then they could put it on their stadium if they are like A&M.

Edited December 3, 2023 by Valmy77

[n64ra 1079]

1 hour ago, Laxtonto said:

Now that is a scary, yet accurate, thought

i think it's going to go the other way. After an undefeated or 1 loss regular season, just play the backups in the CCG. Who cares if you drop from a 4 seed to a 7 seed?

Edited December 3, 2023 by n64ra

[po elvis 2070]

3 minutes ago, bullet said:

Well Phillips shouldn't have vetoed the 12 team playoff!  We would have had one if Phillips, Warren and Kliavcoff didn't stop the expansion for a year.

The guidelines say nothing about being an undefeated Power 5 conference champion. If you have a valid argument you don't have to throw in something that is false to make your argument look valid. The guidelines are against them.

Quote

• The selection committee will select the teams using a process that distinguishes among otherwise comparable teams by considering:
  • Conference championships won,
  • Strength of schedule,
  • Head‐to‐head competition,
  • Comparative outcomes of common opponents (without incenting margin of victory), and,
  • Other relevant factors such as unavailability of key players and coaches that may have affected a team’s performance during the season or likely will affect its postseason performance.

 

[skilesare 71]

25 minutes ago, T-shirt Sip said:

Hey world, 

 

[Horn Dogg 3823]

1 minute ago, 956 Worldwide said:

FSU got fucked. Big-time. I’m a known Aggie and if you forced me to bite the bullet, I’d have said this is the proper slate: 

1. UM

2. UDub

3. FSU

4. Texas by virtue of H2H.

It physically hurts to type that but it’s true. 

If Georgia had won like everyone thought they would, then there’s no convo. Four undefeated conference champs, four slots. FSU got punished because Georgia lost and that’s a cowardly joke. 

I hear you, I would be pissed if I was an FSU fan too.  Luckily I’m not!

[956 Worldwide 34598]

11 minutes ago, aggie08 said:

Over Texas? I doubt it, but probably more likely than over Bama.

They absolutely would have been in. Like I said, this was a cowardly decision not to piss off the SEC. 

[Deej 76690]

12 minutes ago, TKthunder2 said:

 

 

🥱 

[MNLonghornFUKM 8815]

 

Last bullet needs to be enlarged or the new surly motto

[Beau Vine 54109]

 

[dcar00 14101]

Just now, Valmy77 said:

FSU would probably get a national title from one of those computers or obscure polls if they won. Then they could put it on their stadium.

FSU could end up being the lone undefeated team.  If that happens and they beat Ga. the AP will give them the title.

Ga may have some opt outs but it is quite possible FSU has none.  

If we don't win the title that would be an awesome scenario.

[Macanudo 12955]

3 hours ago, Macanudo said:

This feels like Christmas 1977.  I had asked my parents for a Millenium Falcon toy because Star Wars had rocked my world that year.  And they didn't deliver.   I got some lame knock off from Space :1999.

This better not be like 1977.

This is definitely not like 1977.   Hook 'em!

[bullet 1596]

18 minutes ago, dcar00 said:

They did get unlucky that Florida sucked and LSU was kinda average this year.  They scheduled 2 normally very good P5 teams.

With Clemson flailing the ACC became the worst conf by far this year.

their SOS was 55 for a reason

SOS per Sagarin

Texas #4

Washington #5

Alabama #12

Michigan #56

FSU #61

Georgia #46

Ohio St. #36

Oregon #25

(can't list this without acknowledging Sagarin still has Oregon #2, Penn St. #5, Washington #9 and FSU #10)

[The_Great_Hornsby 3238]

2 minutes ago, dcar00 said:

FSU could end up being the lone undefeated team.  If that happens and they beat Ga. the AP will give them the title.

Ga may have some opt outs but it is quite possible FSU has none.  

If we don't win the title that would be an awesome scenario.

The AP will not give FSU the title over Bama or Texas. The two extra games (in the playoffs and thus two top 4 wins) pretty much killed the chance for a split championship.  

Edited December 3, 2023 by The_Great_Hornsby

[hobbes2702 13004]

14 minutes ago, BillyGoatHill said:

That's gonna be a JOJA mauling...

I’m predicting a 12-7 type game. Both those offenses are offensive 

[Beau Vine 54109]

1 minute ago, bullet said:

SOS per Sagarin

Texas #4

Washington #5

Alabama #12

Michigan #56

FSU #61

Georgia #46

Ohio St. #36

Oregon #25

(can't list this without acknowledging Sagarin still has Oregon #2, Penn St. #5, Washington #9 and FSU #10)

Sagarin is absolute shit.  Moose, front, etc.

Edited December 3, 2023 by Beau Vine

[dcar00 14101]

Just now, The_Great_Hornsby said:

The AP will not give FSU the title over Bama or Texas. The two extra games pretty much killed the chance for a split championship.  

It isn't happening but I absolutely believe they would.  it is one extra game.

[AeroHorn 748]

I was pretty sure we were getting in:

1. SEC presence in CFP is an axiom, because, well, they have dominated it.

2. Our Alabama win sets the floor high due to said bias (point 1)

3. Hence, I wanted Alabama to win; we would lose our floor otherwise.

If Georgia had won, the committee wouldn't have put us as #4 because FSU looked bad (current reasoning). This rationalization disappears when SEC is already in.

 

[Macanudo 12955]

1 minute ago, The_Great_Hornsby said:

The AP will not give FSU the title over Bama or Texas. The two extra games (in the playoffs and thus two top 4 wins) pretty much killed the chance for a split championship.  

Especially when UGa beats them 9-3 in the Orange Bowl.

[Valmy77 13198]

1 minute ago, The_Great_Hornsby said:

The AP will not give FSU the title over Bama or Texas. The two extra games pretty much killed the chance for a split championship.  

If they somehow beat Georgia somebody will name them national champs. That's something to play for.

[DFW Horn 6119]

7 minutes ago, MNLonghornFUKM said:

That D is going to be exhausted when it’s on the field all of the time due to the inept offense


Early line is UGA -12.. part of me thinks they destroy FSU..but I’d be hesitant to how much UGA wants to be there

OMG.....this shit again?

But, to your point, I'm not touching this game. FSU should be really motivated, but how many of their players are NFL-eligible who decide to sit it out?

[Beau Vine 54109]

Just now, Valmy77 said:

If they somehow beat Georgia somebody will name them national champs. That's something to play for.

Counterpoint: F$U ain't aggy.

[Beau Vine 54109]

17 minutes ago, po elvis said:

mix that with the 3 or guys on each side who skip out on the game to prepare for the draft.

F$U is screwed if Rodemaker decides to turn pro!

[chemHORN 1239]

Everyone saying 13-0 should guarantee a playoff spot are saying performance on the field matters.  It does.  FSU had 2 games without their QB to show they belonged and all they did was show they didn't.  

[MNLonghornFUKM 8815]

OMG.....this shit again?
But, to your point, I'm not touching this game. FSU should be really motivated, but how many of their players are NFL-eligible who decide to sit it out?

You know it’s happening if FSU pulls off the upset

[tbone_ 14066]

Everyone saying 13-0 should guarantee a playoff spot are saying performance on the field matters.  It does.  FSU had 2 games without their QB to show they belonged and all they did was show they didn't.  

You seem like a big figure skating fan

[Chopper 17208]

3 hours ago, Chopper said:

Headed to the gym. If I avoid dropping a 45 lb weight on my foot that means we're the 3 seed and Alabama is 4th.

Back from the gym. Happy to report zero dropped weights. Now to read 20 pages to catch up.

If not mentioned already we need a list of the clueless, dispshit analists who predicted Texas would be left out of the top 4. So far I've got Kelley Ford, Stu Mandel and Helobious. Anyone else?

[billfromlaketravis 11422]

Georgia should destroy Florida State with a month to prep. 
 

I wonder how the Rodemaker concussion changed things. Let’s say he played and FSU looks vaguely competent on offense and beats UL 24-6. Would that have been enough to get them in? 

[The Dog 43901]

21 minutes ago, SarkAfterDark said:

So based on what the committee decided had Georgia won, Texas would still be in. But I honestly don’t think that is true. They would have went with the 4 undefeated conference champions. The final result happened because they couldn’t stand to leave the SEC out. Bunch of pussies

 

20 minutes ago, aggie08 said:

Over Texas? I doubt it, but probably more likely than over Bama.

Yes. Alabama winning put BOTH Texas and Alabama into the playoff.

Had Georgia beaten Bama then our win over them doesn't look nearly as good and they likely let in FSU.

That said, the committee fucked up by not dropping FSU out of the top 4 when Travis was injured. They lead them to believe that they were in with a win. 

I watched a clip of Collin Cowherd (don't regularly watch is show but wanted to get his reaction on Utoob) just made a good point - this is like when Cincinnati lost Kenyon Martin for the season in the CUSA tournament in 2000. Cincy had been #1 all season then was given a 2 seed after Martin was lost for the season with a broken leg. 

[Hmbre97 6301]

[Surly Bevo 24891]

The problem for FSU as they talk about the precedents this breaks and the bad precedent it sets is that while they may be right about the first part they are not about the second. This is the last year of a 4 team CFP, next year they would be in under same circumstances.  None of this set any precedent and that is why the committee was cool with doing it to them.  

[Huckleberry 32807]

14 minutes ago, n64ra said:

i think it's going to go the other way. After an undefeated or 1 loss regular season, just play the backups in the CCG. Who cares if you drop from a 4 seed to a 7 seed?

Everyone would care. That's the difference in having a first round bye and also not being conference champions which still matters.

[ztejas 43388]

Norvell is disgusted and infuriated at the CFP decision. 

 

Now he knows how everyone felt that had to sit through that shitfest last night. 

[956 Worldwide 34598]

One other thing that I can’t take credit for— penalizing a team for losing a player to injury incentivizes staff to either lie about injuries or rush players back before they are ready. 
 

Like I said earlier, the proper choice was for the CFP to bite the bullet and tell SEC, “sorry, your one loss champ lost its H2H with the other 1 loss champ.” 
 

The committee had a Sophie’s choice between Texas and the SEC they didn’t want to make and decided to grab someone else’s kid, LOL. 

[Valmy77 13198]

5 minutes ago, ztejas said:

Now he knows how everyone felt that had to sit through that shitfest last night. 

Or that game against Florida. That was some brutal shit. Watching Rice play SMU in the old SWC at noon on Raycom was more entertaining.

Edited December 3, 2023 by Valmy77

[MNLonghornFUKM 8815]

Norvell is disgusted and infuriated at the CFP decision. 
 
Now he knows how everyone felt that had to sit through that shitfest last night. 

Don’t forget the Florida game the week before. That was tough for a lot of us to stomach

[Texas Jeff 1939]

18 minutes ago, MNLonghornFUKM said:

Early line is UGA -12.. part of me thinks they destroy FSU..but I’d be hesitant to how much UGA wants to be there

So UGA needs to score 13...

[tbone_ 14066]

 
Like I said earlier, the proper choice was for the CFP to bite the bullet and tell SEC, “sorry, your one loss champ lost its H2H with the other 1 loss champ”

This

[ztejas 43388]

1 minute ago, 956 Worldwide said:

penalizing a team for losing a player to injury incentivizes staff to either lie about injuries or rush players back before they are ready. 

They didn't penalize them for losing a player. They penalized them for looking like dogshit against a bad UF team and a weak UL team.

I think FSU should have been in. But let's not pretend like they're actually a top 4 team. Michigan would strum them. 

[ApocalypseTexas 297]

3 minutes ago, Hmbre97 said:

Oh my gosh that is brutal 

[Laxtonto 12075]

1 minute ago, 956 Worldwide said:

One other thing that I can’t take credit for— penalizing a team for losing a player to injury incentivizes staff to either lie about injuries or rush players back before they are ready. 
 

Like I said earlier, the proper choice was for the CFP to bite the bullet and tell SEC, “sorry, your one loss champ lost its H2H with the other 1 loss champ.” 
 

The committee had a Sophie’s choice between Texas and the SEC they didn’t want to make and decided to grab someone else’s kid, LOL. 

You dont think that was on Sarks mind when he had Ewers go right back out there or said Ewers Xrays came back negative... just in case to help avoid that injury perception, especially after losing Brooks...

[aggie08 21470]

14 minutes ago, 956 Worldwide said:

They absolutely would have been in. Like I said, this was a cowardly decision not to piss off the SEC. 

Oh for sure, once the decision became Bama or no SEC representative, FSU was turbo fucked.

If the decision was FSU v. UT given how their games played out, it would have been a lot closer. But you're probably right: four undefeated conference champions in, Texas as first out is the easy decision had Georgia won.

[Valmy77 13198]

Dallas will be full of jorts this Christmas as it will be Ohio State vs Missouri in the Cotton Bowl.

[Hondo 682]

Committee:  "Florida State is no good without Jordan Travis."

Also the Committee:  "Florida State without Jordan Travis is better than 29-game win streak, 2 x defending National Champion Georgia."  (FSU #5, UGA #6)