THE College Football Playoff Rankings Thread [MICH,WASH,TEX,ALA]

[TrashMaster G 17387]

7 minutes ago, The Dog said:

There's actually a narrative out there that Georgia is already in regardless of whether they beat Bama or not. The idea is that they deserve the benefit of the doubt because of being the two time defending champs and could lock out both an undefeated FSU and Big XII champion Texas. 

I knew this was out there but didn't want to give it any oxygen until I saw it and sure enough here's Matt Barrie and fucking Dumbo pushing it.

Anyone using what happened in previous years as any sort of justification for ranking should be shot immediately and removed from the gene pool.

[Hagbard Celine 10756]

8 minutes ago, The Dog said:

There's actually a narrative out there that Georgia is already in regardless of whether they beat Bama or not. The idea is that they deserve the benefit of the doubt because of being the two time defending champs and could lock out both an undefeated FSU and Big XII champion Texas. 

I knew this was out there but didn't want to give it any oxygen until I saw it and sure enough here's Matt Barrie and fucking Dumbo pushing it.

it's not nuts

it's a fait accompli

[C-Man 27050]

8 minutes ago, The Dog said:

There's actually a narrative out there that Georgia is already in regardless of whether they beat Bama or not. The idea is that they deserve the benefit of the doubt because of being the two time defending champs and could lock out both an undefeated FSU and Big XII champion Texas. 

I knew this was out there but didn't want to give it any oxygen until I saw it and sure enough here's Matt Barrie and fucking Dumbo pushing it.

That would be some serious bullshit.

[Vic Mackey 46935]

2 minutes ago, Frank Drebin said:

If FSU makes it, whoever gets them might as well have a bye week.

Yep. Will not even be worth watching. If it's Georgia, they will bend them over like they did TCU. They can sleepwalk to an easy win and pretty well rested for the national championship. Won't have to exert too much effort and can probably rest their starters an entire half if they want.  

Even from a neutral fan perspective, you have to hope FSU gets bounced by Lousiville this weekend. Because they are not even close to being one of the 4 best teams right now.

[dcar00 14035]

23 minutes ago, blutow said:

As an outsider, we can't possibly comprehend all the nuances of how hard it is to be an SEC team.  It just means more.  

next year when we walk out of the tunnel as an SEC team all our players will be like

[Hagbard Celine 10756]

5 minutes ago, C-Man said:

That would be some serious bullshit.

gird your loins

[C-Man 27050]

Just now, Hagbard Celine said:

gird your loins

Maybe. I just don't see how you justify putting both Bama and Georgia in and leaving Texas out in any logical scenario. They all have 1-loss and Texas/Bama are conference champs with Texas beating Bama in Tuscaloosa, then Bama beating UGA in Atlanta. Texas > Bama > Georgia = Bama + Georgia in CFP? Nah, fuck that.

[Al Bundy's Napoleon Hand 13546]

11 minutes ago, The Dog said:

There's actually a narrative out there that Georgia is already in regardless of whether they beat Bama or not. The idea is that they deserve the benefit of the doubt because of being the two time defending champs and could lock out both an undefeated FSU and Big XII champion Texas. 

I knew this was out there but didn't want to give it any oxygen until I saw it and sure enough here's Matt Barrie and fucking Dumbo pushing it.

What Texas did in Tuscaloosa is diminished cuz it was early in the year but Georgia gets the benefit of how their team performed 2 years ago with players that are no longer on the team. Therefore, we get a boost for Ellinger beating them in the Sugar Bowl. Checkmate, committee.

[Hagbard Celine 10756]

6 minutes ago, Vic Mackey said:

Yep. Will not even be worth watching. If it's Georgia, they will bend them over like they did TCU. They can sleepwalk to an easy win and pretty well rested for the national championship. Won't have to exert too much effort and can probably rest their starters an entire half if they want.  

Even from a neutral fan perspective, you have to hope FSU gets bounced by Lousiville this weekend. Because they are not even close to being one of the 4 best teams right now.

conversely, when bama beats dawg, and bama lands at 2, fsu will jump to 3 because michigan is 1 and draws dawg at 4

PEOPLE

WE

ARE

NOT

GOING

LET'S

WIN

THIS

FUCKING

LEAGUE

AND

PRAY

NO

TULANE

 

Edited November 28, 2023 by Hagbard Celine

[dcar00 14035]

Just now, Al Bundy's Napoleon Hand said:

What Texas did in Tuscaloosa is diminished cuz it was early in the year but Georgia gets the benefit of how their team performed 2 years ago with players that are no longer on the team. Therefore, we get a boost for Ellinger beating them in the Sugar Bowl. Checkmate, committee.

as long as we stop there with Texas Georgia games.

[Vic Mackey 46935]

15 minutes ago, C-Man said:

That would be some serious bullshit.

The real question is if they will leave out the SEC completely if  Bama beats Georgia? Can't see it happening but that result will create the most "chaos" because you know Georgia is going to lobby they still deserve to be there.

If the committee wants to have no chaos or controversy, they would just hope for Georgia, Wash, Michigan, FSU all win. 4 undefeated conference winners. No other undefeated P5 teams. If those results happen, Oregon and Bama are done. Georgia, Mich and Wash all in without a doubt. That would leave FSU vs Texas for the 4th spot. Right now, obviously anyone with a pulse knows Texas is the better team and would win by 20+ with FSU not having their QB. FSU was able to beat Florida because they were able to get the run game going . I can't see them doing that against us. And we would make that spare backup's day a nightmare.

Edited November 28, 2023 by Vic Mackey

[Valmy77 13094]

1 minute ago, dcar00 said:

as long as we stop there with Texas Georgia games.

What do you mean? We are 4-1 against them all time.

[Hagbard Celine 10756]

4 minutes ago, Al Bundy's Napoleon Hand said:

What Texas did in Tuscaloosa is diminished cuz it was early in the year but Georgia gets the benefit of how their team performed 2 years ago with players that are no longer on the team. Therefore, we get a boost for Ellinger beating them in the Sugar Bowl. Checkmate, committee.

if the committee wants to it will declare Texas' "eyetest" destruction of tech trumps duck and that's why we move ahead a slot this week, with that contoversy buried behind the slotting of bama at 5, again, to telegraph what they intend to do with a bama win over georgia

BUT WE'RE STILL NOT GOING because wulaw can't lose a fucking parlay to save his life

 

 

4 minutes ago, C-Man said:

Maybe. I just don't see how you justify putting both Bama and Georgia in and leaving Texas out in any logical scenario. They all have 1-loss and Texas/Bama are conference champs with Texas beating Bama in Tuscaloosa, then Bama beating UGA in Atlanta. Texas > Bama > Georgia = Bama + Georgia in CFP? Nah, fuck that.

don't shoot the messenger

Edited November 28, 2023 by Hagbard Celine

[dcar00 14035]

2 minutes ago, Vic Mackey said:

The real question is if they will leave out the SEC completely if Georgia beats Bama? Can't see it happening but that result will create the most "chaos" because you know Georgia is going to lobby they still deserve to be there.

If the committee wants to have no chaos or controversy, they would just hope for Georgia, Wash, Michigan, FSU all win. 4 undefeated conference winners. No other undefeated P5 teams. If those results happen, Oregon and Bama are done. Georgia, Mich and Wash all in without a doubt. That would leave FSU vs Texas for the 4th spot. Right now, obviously anyone with a pulse knows Texas is the better team and would win by 20+ with FSU not having their QB. FSU was able to beat Florida because they were able to get the run game going . I can't see them doing that against us. And we would make that spare backup's day a nightmare.

Georgia beats Bama?

[Hagbard Celine 10756]

5 minutes ago, C-Man said:

Maybe. I just don't see how you justify putting both Bama and Georgia in and leaving Texas out in any logical scenario. They all have 1-loss and Texas/Bama are conference champs with Texas beating Bama in Tuscaloosa, then Bama beating UGA in Atlanta. Texas > Bama > Georgia = Bama + Georgia in CFP? Nah, fuck that.

logical...... to who?

[C-Man 27050]

1 minute ago, dcar00 said:

Georgia beats Bama?

[Vic Mackey 46935]

1 minute ago, dcar00 said:

Georgia beats Bama?

Meant Bama beating Georgia.

[C-Man 27050]

Just now, Hagbard Celine said:

logical...... to who?

I'm not saying it won't happen. It's happened before and like I said, the playoff systems of the past 20+ years seem to have inordinately favored Oklahoma and then later, Alabama. Whatever those two need to happen usually materialize.

[dcar00 14035]

5 minutes ago, Valmy77 said:

What do you mean? We are 4-1 against them all time.

yeah but that 1....

[DaysOff 7851]

Texas is :12 seconds away from this conversation being completely irrelevant. 

Honestly, mind-blowing. I can't believe we're here; now I want more.

[Vito Andolini 9102]

7 minutes ago, cafe society said:

Floating above the hard-nosed analysis here, I'm just hoping that we beat Okie Lite, Washington beats Nike and Louisville takes out FSU.  Makes the outcome of UGA and Bama a footnote, apart from seeding.

I just wrote a long ass, I-think-well-thought-out post about various scenarios but there’s been about 30 posts since I started, so fuck it 🤣

Go Texas!

[Hagbard Celine 10756]

3 minutes ago, DaysOff said:

Honestly, mind-blowing. I can't believe we're here; now I want more.

/judge smails

3 minutes ago, Vito Andolini said:

I just wrote a long ass, I-think-well-thought-out post about various scenarios but there’s been about 30 posts since I started, so fuck it 🤣

Go Texas!

there is no point trying to write anything constructive until we see these rankings in 90 minutes

[Dahobbs 17444]

24 minutes ago, Hagbard Celine said:

the GNP of the state of texas dropped a tenth of a percent this week as surlers endlessly debated infinite scenarios with infinite reasons for infinite outcomes and who to root for

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only some of what many wrote will matter in less than 3 hours when the committee releases it's money-shot 2nd-to-last rankings

THIS IS WHERE THEY TELEGRAPH WHAT THEY INTEND TO DO

every postulate voiced thus far can be used to argue for and against any position

and will be used to support the espn narrative, whatever it is

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i was shocked the AP landed jort at 5

this is very bad

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a final note as we count down to tonight's reveal.....

if bama beats georgia, THEY ARE BOTH IN, and if ESPN wants 2 semis matching the sec and the b1g, a narrative will be constructed to explain it to the casuals and pinks, something to the effect of....

"we couldn't separate 8 conference champions each with 1 loss, so we took the only 1-loss team that's not a conference champion (tosu)"

is that stupid an insane?  you bet it is

+++

i'm holding to my forecast for tonight's committee rankings:

1 dawg

2 meatchicken

3 washington

4 florida state

5 bama

6 texas

7 oregon

8 jort

9 louisville

 

Wow. You've managed to fit a lot of being really fucking wrong about things in one post. We've already seen the committee change up rankings from the penultimate to the final rankings despite all related teams winning. No reason to think they can't do it again. And I'll bet a substantial amount of money that absent 2 of FSU, Michigan, and Texas getting upset, there is zero chance of Alabama and Georgia both making it. And really, I think it may require all 3 to get upset (as Ohio State is sitting there ready to jump on a spot too). 

[Cairn Horn88 8167]

17 minutes ago, dcar00 said:

Georgia beats Bama?

Ga will beat Bama.

[dcar00 14035]

2 minutes ago, Cairn Horn88 said:

Ga will beat Bama.

paper will beat rock

[Irish Wrist Watch 1349]

Somehow I think it's all gonna come down to the question of how Texas does Saturday. If we beat the fuck out of OSU, we win the argument of a team gelling/peaking at just the right time - and if the D dominates OsU - the talk could well turn to the Texas D being the best defense in the country. That might be worth something in the minds of whoever is picking the final four. If the offense and defense produce another Ttech blowout, it will be hard to look past us.

But Sark is gonna have to dig down deep to keep his foot on the pedal. We know what our players are capable of - this team is really talented - now he needs to turn them loose. Quit fucking around. Up the deception and the play-action. No plain vanilla calls on second or third and long - that doesn't mean pass necessarily, but keep them guessing - No two yard runs up the middle.

Another 50-10 drubbing would feel pretty damn good, but it ain't gonna happen if Sark fucks around. Go get 'em Horns.

Edited November 28, 2023 by Irish Wrist Watch

[texastroubadour 1204]

We must win

We need Washington to win. 
we need Ga to win

we need Lou to win

iowa ain’t beating Mich

[immamac 42517]

5 minutes ago, texastroubadour said:

We must win

We need Washington to win. 
we need Ga to win

we need Lou to win

iowa ain’t beating Mich

The best scenario is the revenge one I posted. That is so much must see TV. 

[Dahobbs 17444]

6 minutes ago, texastroubadour said:

We must win

We need Washington to win. 
we need Ga to win

we need Lou to win

iowa ain’t beating Mich

We don't want Washington or Georgia to win. Those hurt our chances. If Louisville wins, Pac-12 and SEC championships are irrelevant. We are getting in. But if FSU wins, we need Alabama and Oregon to win in order to have a chance (obviously Iowa isn't beating Michigan). 

[MonkeyDoughnut 10145]

My view of we win, what other single game outcome matters most, ranked in order of helping us:

FSU loses

Michigan loses

Ga loses

Wash loses

 

We need a poll favorite to lose. FSU or Mich we're in. Ga very likely were in (our game and theirs - any blowout/closeness could matter).  Wash loses...we still have a chance, but think unlikely based on committee views going into this weekend.

[The Dog 43802]

9 minutes ago, texastroubadour said:

iowa ain’t beating Mich

 

1 minute ago, Dahobbs said:

(obviously Iowa isn't beating Michigan). 

It would be totally on brand for Iowa to win an ugly game against Michigan. 

Just for fun I used the ESPN simulator with Texas, Oregon, Louisville, Iowa, and Bama winning:

 

[Nueces River Rat 5529]

1 hour ago, Horndog said:

Counterpoint to the "Texas was lucky they got Bama early" argument:

For years we have heard about what a meat grinder the SEC schedule is, how every game is a war, that they need to play a powder puff late in the season to recover from the rigors of the 8- game gauntlet, yada yada.

It's lucky for Bama that they played us early in the year while they were still fresh and before all the SEC games took their toll. 

Bama need a hail mary like miracle to beat a team that got humiliated a week before by aggy....   New Mexico State version.

I agree the meatgrinder thing is tired and old.   A few years ago it might have been true when Florida, LSU, Bama and UGA were always top four and one of the mid tiers like Auburn, MSU and Ole Miss would have a good team and make it interesting.   But it's almost always been about where the SEC teams were placed in the media polls and the fact they'd get eight or nine teams in the pre season polls and let them fight it out, it took on the illusion of a meatgrinder.   Then you get them in bowl game and they get exposed like we did UGA in 2018 Sugar Bowl...   Oh they didn't want to be there was the excuse, but regardless based on the conference hype they should've crushed us.

It's the same damn thing with the Big 10 with Michigan and Ohio State.   And Norte Dame.

[Js1 85104]

1 hour ago, C-Man said:

This is what I keep telling myself but we've gotten the shaft before back in 2008. We had head-to-head on OU and got screwed. This system seems to ALWAYS benefit Bama, as evidenced by the number of times they've won a title under Saban despite dropping a game somewhere along the way.

Please stop reference a Big 12 divisional tiebreaker as some sort of “Texas will get screwed” narrative for a CFP bid. They’re not even remotely the same. 

[blutow 222]

48 minutes ago, Valmy77 said:

What do you mean? We are 4-1 against them all time.

Yeah, that's great against Georgia, but how has Texas done against the other elite SEC team?  Oh, that's right, we're 8-2-1 against Bama. 

Ironically, Vandy is the only SEC team that has a good record against Texas.  I'm gonna go out on a limb and say we'll start chipping into that next year.   

[texastroubadour 1204]

Heather Dinnich can go fuck herself

[ryskey 447]

3 minutes ago, Nueces River Rat said:

Norte Dame.

Hell ya, that's "give me north" in spanish, sort of.  I don't know what that means except maybe that OU sucks.

[C-Man 27050]

3 minutes ago, Js1 said:

Please stop reference a Big 12 divisional tiebreaker as some sort of “Texas will get screwed” narrative for a CFP bid. They’re not even remotely the same. 

Just a general uneasiness that no matter the system, Texas can get fucked despite having a head-to-head advantage. This scenario when you're comparing 1-loss Texas, Bama and Georgia is painfully obvious to anyone with a functioning brain (1. Texas, 2. Bama, 3. Georgia) and the fact that it is even debatable makes my head fucking hurt.

[EuroHorn 3204]

They’ll move Texas ahead of Oregon due to common opponent margin.  

[ztejas 43263]

19 minutes ago, MonkeyDoughnut said:

My view of we win, what other single game outcome matters most, ranked in order of helping us:

FSU loses

Michigan loses

Ga loses

Wash loses

 

We need a poll favorite to lose. FSU or Mich we're in. Ga very likely were in (our game and theirs - any blowout/closeness could matter).  Wash loses...we still have a chance, but think unlikely based on committee views going into this weekend.

Washington losing is more important than Georgia losing. We wouldn't go over 13-0 UW but could feasibly go over 12-1 UO even if Bama loses. 

[Hondo 661]

Since wish-casting and the intensity of our "rooting" has zero impact on any of the games, we could always just enjoy an awesome Saturday of football and then find out who's CFP bound on Sunday.  I think I'm going to do that.

[JBJ 3649]

7 minutes ago, Hondo said:

Since wish-casting and the intensity of our "rooting" has zero impact on any of the games, we could always just enjoy an awesome Saturday of football and then find out who's CFP bound on Sunday.  I think I'm going to do that.

Lame

[jimmyjazz 45554]

38 minutes ago, EuroHorn said:

They’ll move Texas ahead of Oregon due to common opponent margin.  

I seriously doubt it.  The committee has already spoken -- they think Oregon's resume was better than ours prior to last weekend's games.  They pummeled a ranked team, we pummeled an unranked team.  Why would they move us ahead of the Ducks?

[Hank_Hill 18488]

1 minute ago, jimmyjazz said:

I seriously doubt it.  The committee has already spoken -- they think Oregon's resume was better than ours prior to last weekend's games.  They pummeled a ranked team, we pummeled an unranked team.  Why would they move us ahead of the Ducks?

I don’t think they will either but he said why in his comment. We pummeled someone they didn’t.

[WBT 20418]

1 hour ago, C-Man said:

This is what I keep telling myself but we've gotten the shaft before back in 2008. We had head-to-head on OU and got screwed. 

It was a 3 way tie that couldn't be resolved by h2h

51 minutes ago, Js1 said:

Please stop reference a Big 12 divisional tiebreaker as some sort of “Texas will get screwed” narrative for a CFP bid. They’re not even remotely the same. 

This

[jimmyjazz 45554]

1 minute ago, Hank_Hill said:

I don’t think they will either but he said why in his comment. We pummeled someone they didn’t.

Sure, but I strongly believe that won't trump their victory over Oregon State.  For one thing, the UO-TTech game was eons ago.  Half of them won't even remember it.

[Pato del Muerto 52342]

Of all of the data to use, how well a team performed in 2021 and 2022 would be the worst. Why stop at Georgia?  Why not apply the same to put tosu and bama in since they were better than Texas, Oregon, and fsu the last two years?

[BlackCat 415]

23 minutes ago, Hondo said:

Since wish-casting and the intensity of our "rooting" has zero impact on any of the games, we could always just enjoy an awesome Saturday of football and then find out who's CFP bound on Sunday.  I think I'm going to do that.

Yes, that is an option. However, I believe I have made the decision to start drinking at 8 am, get blackout drunk, and break my tv either out of joy or anger or both while my wife shelters the kids in the corner and waits for me to go in the backyard and pass out with no shoes or socks on. 

[Ignatius 4001]

28 minutes ago, Hondo said:

Since wish-casting and the intensity of our "rooting" has zero impact on any of the games, we could always just enjoy an awesome Saturday of football and then find out who's CFP bound on Sunday.  I think I'm going to do that.

Yet you take the time to post shit on a message board…

[ITHorn 797]

I have a feeling we may be in for some good news here.. no logic just vibes

[Pancho 44469]

good to see K-State in the top 25 still after their loss

OSU at 18