Game Thread Texas vs k-state - 11am on Fox

[83Horn 1,642]

First minute or so of this is pretty funny.  Begins immediately after the end of the game.  Fozzie and Griff are going bonkers, then Lowell gets emotional, almost sounding on the verge of tears, describing how the end of the game felt.

 

Edited November 6, 2023 by 83Horn

[Coelenterate Fuccboi 13,116]

2 hours ago, Rickylovesweed said:

I believe in winning football games. Maalik isn't a good enough passer to use the "we need to protect his health at all costs." 

Edited November 6, 2023 by Coelenterate Fuccboi

[Nueces River Rat 5,539]

1 hour ago, 83Horn said:

First minute or so of this is pretty funny.  Begins immediately after the end of the game.  Fozzie and Griff are going bonkers, then Lowell gets emotional, almost sounding on the verge of tears, describing how the end of the game felt.

 

Lowell had an orgasm. 

[BurntOrange&White 39,934]

11 hours ago, 83Horn said:

First minute or so of this is pretty funny.  Begins immediately after the end of the game.  Fozzie and Griff are going bonkers, then Lowell gets emotional, almost sounding on the verge of tears, describing how the end of the game felt.

 

[GreenspointTexas 9,645]

Its very odd and concerning that this game was almost a carbon copy of the Houston game. Seems like most are glossing over that fact. 
 

But I agree with those that say as long as Murphy starts every game, we have the potential to lose every game

[BurntOrange&White 39,934]

1 minute ago, GreenspointTexas said:

Its very odd and concerning that this game was almost a carbon copy of the Houston game. Seems like most are glossing over that fact. 
 

But I agree with those that say as long as Murphy starts every game, we have the potential to lose every game

What is good to see is we are winning those types of games now. Where as the past 10+ years those types of games are ones that we have lost.

[GreenspointTexas 9,645]

2 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

What is good to see is we are winning those types of games now. Where as the past 10+ years those types of games are ones that we have lost.

Agree. But i also think we are playing with fire this year more than any in recent memory

[Pound Town 21]

14 hours ago, Mother mopar said:

FFS, he's not a runner! How many times do we have to say that.

Then think, for a minute why would the coaches want their 2nd string QB running when we are 1 injury away from going to a 3rd stringer?

Why do people go out of their way to make excuses for him not scrambling?  He’s not Jared Lorenzen.  He can run and is a decent athlete.  

Edited November 6, 2023 by Pound Town

[BigBenBamboozle 1,954]

6 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

What is good to see is we are winning those types of games now. Where as the past 10+ years those types of games are ones that we have lost.

The differences are much better recruiting hit percentages and roster management. Actual in-game management still seems to find this team in tight games. We’re a fucking rorshach right now.

Edited November 6, 2023 by BigBenBamboozle

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12 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

What is good to see is we are winning those types of games now. Where as the past 10+ years those types of games are ones that we have lost.

This is really the only positive of the KSU game. Honestly. 

[mdmost 43,004]

The defense was pretty f'ing awesome. That's a huge positive of the KSU game. Honestly. 

[Jkwellborn 6,708]

Why do people go out of their way to make excuses for him not scrambling?  He’s not Jared Lorenzen.  He can run and is a decent athlete.  

Hey, the Hefty Lefty could move. Don’t knock him. (Rip).

Byron Leftwich is the comparison.

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5 minutes ago, mdmost said:

The defense was pretty f'ing awesome. That's a huge positive of the KSU game. Honestly. 

Run D. So was the running game, MM first half, etc but that all folds into the notion that these are the games we lost before. Talent pulled this out imo. 

[BurntOrange&White 39,934]

9 minutes ago, troph said:

This is really the only positive of the KSU game. Honestly. 

During our best season of the past 10 years at this point we were 6-3 with losses to Maryland, Oklahoma State, and West Virginia. 

 

[BB65 478]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GnYueC5j22g

 

The definition of not a running QB

[lilMAC25 3,795]

12 hours ago, 83Horn said:

First minute or so of this is pretty funny.  Begins immediately after the end of the game.  Fozzie and Griff are going bonkers, then Lowell gets emotional, almost sounding on the verge of tears, describing how the end of the game felt.

 

I’m not listening to that fuck Galindo.

[lilMAC25 3,795]

29 minutes ago, troph said:

Run D. So was the running game, MM first half, etc but that all folds into the notion that these are the games we lost before. Talent pulled this out imo. 

I don’t know man. The coverage was so good on the final play I was expecting to see Connor Stallions on the sidelines. That’s coaching.

[BabaYaga 15,301]

51 minutes ago, Pound Town said:

Why do people go out of their way to make excuses for him not scrambling?  He’s not Jared Lorenzen.  He can run and is a decent athlete.  

This.  He doesn't need to emulate VY, he just needs to be able to move in and out of the pocket and buy time.  He also needs to be able to take open lanes and gain 4-5 yards before he slides or goes out of bounds if needed to keep the defense honest.  If Ewers can do it, sure as shit MM can.  

[Pescado_Rojo 19,422]

Just now, BabaYaga said:

This.  He doesn't need to emulate VY, he just needs to be able to move in and out of the pocket and buy time.  He also needs to be able to take open lanes and gain 4-5 yards before he slides or goes out of bounds if needed to keep the defense honest.  If Ewers can do it, sure as shit MM can.  

Yes. When you step up in the pocket and there's 20 yards of green grass in front of you, take the 5-6 yards and get down. We just need you to stay in front of down and distance, not be Kyler Murray 2.0. 

[gmr548 16,580]

The run defense was pretty f'ing awesome. That's a huge positive of the KSU game. Honestly. 

FIFY. Klein seemed to largely forget the forward pass is legal in the first half. Collin Klein was a top 5 Texas defender.

[BabaYaga 15,301]

3 minutes ago, gmr548 said:

FIFY. Klein seemed to largely forget the forward pass is legal in the first half. Collin Klein was a top 5 Texas defender.

Optimus Klein

I laughed when the announcer said that

[JBJ 3,655]

8 minutes ago, gmr548 said:

FIFY. Klein seemed to largely forget the forward pass is legal in the first half. Collin Klein was a top 5 Texas defender.

KSU has one of the best rushing attacks in NCAA. It's never a bad move to lean on what you are good at.  It's just that the Immovable Object won.

Same with KSU starting  single-high and making MM prove he can throw the ball. It wasn't a dumb call until it didn't work.

It's not like this is Klieman's first rodeo.

[Frank Drebin 5,644]

1 hour ago, mdmost said:

The defense was pretty f'ing awesome. That's a huge positive of the KSU game. Honestly. 

Our defense is playing better than people think.  Even with the short fields by turnovers and blocked punt, we still held K State to 30 points.  Which was 8 under what they were averaging before the game.  And on average we are holding FBS teams to 14 points under their season scoring average.

Kansas State had 17 possession.  Several were in short fields due to turnovers.  They scored 30 points.  That is good defense.

We get healthier and we can play elite defense.  And getting Ewers back will help the defense.

[6th Street 6,413]

Will Howard set a career high for passing yards at 327. It was his first ever 300 yard passing game in 4 years as starting QB at KSU.

[Hookem2147 21,335]

3 minutes ago, 6th Street said:

Will Howard set a career high for passing yards at 327. It was his first ever 300 yard passing game in 4 years as starting QB at KSU.

Congrats to him. Let me know when the T-shirts go on sale.

[MachoMan 346]

On 11/4/2023 at 3:40 PM, hookemATL said:

Only pussy is you. Cunt. 

I stand by my words. Quinn isn't hurt. Just like Colt wasn't hurt against Bama in the National Championship game. Get in the fucking game, bitch pussies. 

Also, Atlanta fucking sucks miles of hobo cock. Cunt. 

On 11/4/2023 at 3:40 PM, CfRhTxStBobcats said:

I'll take bitch pussy over shit garbage every time 

Fair. 

[GreenspointTexas 9,645]

2 minutes ago, MachoMan said:

I stand by my words. Quinn isn't hurt. Just like Colt wasn't hurt against Bama in the National Championship game. Get in the fucking game, bitch pussies. 

Also, Atlanta fucking sucks miles of hobo cock. Cunt. 

Fair. 

See you later

[BabaYaga 15,301]

7 minutes ago, Frank Drebin said:

Our defense is playing better than people think.  Even with the short fields by turnovers and blocked punt, we still held K State to 30 points.  Which was 8 under what they were averaging before the game.  And on average we are holding FBS teams to 14 points under their season scoring average.

Kansas State had 17 possession.  Several were in short fields due to turnovers.  They scored 30 points.  That is good defense.

We get healthier and we can play elite defense.  And getting Ewers back will help the defense.

In a vacuum, absolutely - but when you're up 17-0 early, and then again 27-7, you expect and hope you defense can choke out and tap teams at home, not let then crawl back.  It's a part of the game, just frustrating that they can't put teams away.  Same with what happened with Houston.  

[Frank Drebin 5,644]

4 minutes ago, 6th Street said:

Will Howard set a career high for passing yards at 327. It was his first ever 300 yard passing game in 4 years as starting QB at KSU.

In 17 drives and 42 attempts because they could not run the ball -- 29 yards on 33 carries.  

He had less than 8 yards per attempt.  It was not some banner day passing. His total QBR was 57 and his pass efficiency was 154.

We sold out to stop the run.  They went 3 of 14 on third downs and the defense blew up their attempt to win the game in OT.  They scored because we gave them short fields.  The defense has a passing grade.

 

[Frank Drebin 5,644]

2 minutes ago, BabaYaga said:

In a vacuum, absolutely - but when you're up 17-0 early, and then again 27-7, you expect and hope you defense can choke out and tap teams at home, not let then crawl back.  It's a part of the game, just frustrating that they can't put teams away.  Same with what happened with Houston.  

Sure.  Be nice if we stopped giving them short fields though.  And maybe have an offense that can stay on the field and not go 3 and out repeatedly to limit some of their opportunities. 1.75 points per drive is really, really good defense.

I think overall the defense is playing well.  We really need to get healthy.  Burke being back is huge.  Need Catalon back also.  And hope that Watts is okay.

[Js1 85,401]

2 minutes ago, Frank Drebin said:

In 17 drives and 42 attempts because they could not run the ball -- 29 yards on 33 carries.  

He had less than 8 yards per attempt.  It was not some banner day passing. His total QBR was 57 and his pass efficiency was 154.

We sold out to stop the run.  They went 3 of 14 on third downs and the defense blew up their attempt to win the game in OT.  They scored because we gave them short fields.  The defense has a passing grade.

 

We will give up a lot of passing yards when a team is down 20. Not gonna catch up running the ball against our front 7.  And with the clock no longer stopping on first downs, running is limiting your possessions to catch up

[Strat 149]

Just like K-State, we also dropped a few easy interceptions. One of which was a surefire Pick 6 by Watts. 

[Had Enough 2,083]

KSU has one of the best rushing attacks in NCAA. It's never a bad move to lean on what you are good at.  It's just that the Immovable Object won.
Same with KSU starting  single-high and making MM prove he can throw the ball. It wasn't a dumb call until it didn't work.
It's not like this is Klieman's first rodeo.

KSUs first possession. Two plays. One pass, one run first down. Then pass, run, sack.

2nd possession. 3 runs. First down. Then sack, pass, run (QB draw maybe).

3rd possession. All runs. No first downs.

4th/5th possessions. One incompletion each drive. No first downs.

6th possession. Two incompletions. No first down.

Then the TD.

They had no success passing early. You’re right. You come out doing what you do well. There’s no coaching fail there.

Howard made a few very good throws against decent coverage. Much of their success late was not necessarily poor coverage. The Watts personal foul extended a drive that was 4th down - on broken contain no less. There were at least two if not 3 or 4 completions late that were the result of missed sacks/lack of containment. They only had two drives greater than 50 yards. They only scored on one with I believe the big 3rd down conversion being a loss of contain.

[Frank Drebin 5,644]

Also, it is hard to play defense in the Big 12 when holding is allowed.  And against Texas you are allowed to put pass rushers in a head lock when you're beat without risking a penalty.

[Dnaguy 12,000]

1 hour ago, BurntOrange&White said:

What is good to see is we are winning those types of games now. Where as the past 10+ years those types of games are ones that we have lost.

 

1 hour ago, GreenspointTexas said:

Its very odd and concerning that this game was almost a carbon copy of the Houston game. Seems like most are glossing over that fact. 
 

But I agree with those that say as long as Murphy starts every game, we have the potential to lose every game

Yes but we have the potential to win every game as well.

Thats the difference.

Can you imagine the past two games with Hudson Card at the helm?

[BabaYaga 15,301]

1 minute ago, Frank Drebin said:

Also, it is hard to play defense in the Big 12 when holding is allowed.  And against Texas you are allowed to put pass rushers in a head lock when you're beat without risking a penalty.

This is why in ANY close game in the conference, I lose my chit.  Knowing fuckery is right around the corner and single calls can impact the game like the obvious no-call on the PI leading to the first KSU score.  

[6th Street 6,413]

It looks like Donovan Smith at UH also achieved a career high of 378 yards against us. Pass defense is bad to horrible 

[BurntOrange&White 39,934]

Just now, 6th Street said:

It looks like Donovan Smith at UH also achieved a career high of 378 yards against us. Pass defense is bad to horrible 

Thanks, what is our record vs Kansas State and Houston with those career high games this year?

[ClubWhatever 12,145]

Can we admit that we are simultaneously a really good team but that the pass defense needs to and can improve?  No, I don't think we can.  Violates Texas fan manual. 

[Js1 85,401]

7 minutes ago, Dnaguy said:

 

Yes but we have the potential to win every game as well.

Thats the difference.

Can you imagine the past two games with Hudson Card at the helm?

I’d rather not 

[6th Street 6,413]

Hurr durr, we won. Trust the coaches

[Texas Wahoo 3,397]

8 minutes ago, Dnaguy said:

Yes but we have the potential to win every game as well.

Thats the difference.

Can you imagine the past two games with Hudson Card at the helm?

Yes...

[BurntOrange&White 39,934]

3 minutes ago, Js1 said:

I’d rather not 

 

 

[troph 24,851]

1 hour ago, BurntOrange&White said:

During our best season of the past 10 years at this point we were 6-3 with losses to Maryland, Oklahoma State, and West Virginia. 

 

That’s my point. We won a game we often lost in years past.

1 hour ago, lilMAC25 said:

I don’t know man. The coverage was so good on the final play I was expecting to see Connor Stallions on the sidelines. That’s coaching.

Final play was nails. So much good in that play. 

57 minutes ago, Frank Drebin said:

Our defense is playing better than people think.  Even with the short fields by turnovers and blocked punt, we still held K State to 30 points.  Which was 8 under what they were averaging before the game.  And on average we are holding FBS teams to 14 points under their season scoring average.

Kansas State had 17 possession.  Several were in short fields due to turnovers.  They scored 30 points.  That is good defense.

We get healthier and we can play elite defense.  And getting Ewers back will help the defense.

I agree injuries. I agree we made KSU one dimensional exactly the way we wanted to. Yet it still went to OT. Short fields, bad game management and some horrid pass defense until the very end.

47 minutes ago, BabaYaga said:

In a vacuum, absolutely - but when you're up 17-0 early, and then again 27-7, you expect and hope you defense can choke out and tap teams at home, not let then crawl back.  It's a part of the game, just frustrating that they can't put teams away.  Same with what happened with Houston.  

Exactly. 

46 minutes ago, Frank Drebin said:

In 17 drives and 42 attempts because they could not run the ball -- 29 yards on 33 carries.  

He had less than 8 yards per attempt.  It was not some banner day passing. His total QBR was 57 and his pass efficiency was 154.

We sold out to stop the run.  They went 3 of 14 on third downs and the defense blew up their attempt to win the game in OT.  They scored because we gave them short fields.  The defense has a passing grade.

 

Passing grades don’t win championships. 

39 minutes ago, Frank Drebin said:

Also, it is hard to play defense in the Big 12 when holding is allowed.  And against Texas you are allowed to put pass rushers in a head lock when you're beat without risking a penalty.

Insert Inglorious Bastards BINGO gify re holding here. 

[lilMAC25 3,795]

Thinking about that final sequence, KSt would have been better off getting tackled at the 15 or so, more field to cover likely leads to open WR and a game winning score.

[Frank Drebin 5,644]

12 minutes ago, troph said:

That’s my point. We won a game we often lost in years past.

Final play was nails. So much good in that play. 

I agree injuries. I agree we made KSU one dimensional exactly the way we wanted to. Yet it still went to OT. Short fields, bad game management and some horrid pass defense until the very end.

Exactly. 

Passing grades don’t win championships. 

 

We aren't a championship quality team right now.  Especially on offense.  We can be.

[troph 24,851]

1 minute ago, Frank Drebin said:

We aren't a championship quality team right now.  Especially on offense.  We can be.

Edited November 6, 2023 by troph

[Lou Loomis 748]

I will say that staring up at only six teams ranked higher than us feels so much better than staring up at possible bowl eligibility. This team has come a long way. It has also caught some lucky breaks while executing better at some key positions that in years past. That all  should bode well if we learn to execute better and better as the weeks go by. 
 

Lots to clean up, but still lots to be optimistic about at this point in the season.

[CashMcCoy 3,199]

2 hours ago, lilMAC25 said:

I’m not listening to that fuck Galindo.

Fozzy, Robison, and Griff love giving him shit. Watching it right now on LHN and they were chanting “Weenie Lowell” as they went to break. Even T’vondre made a quick jab at his expense saying he “looks like the type” to only talk negative about players off the air. Worth a view.

[Pam Cummings 9,645]

1 hour ago, 6th Street said:

Hurr durr, we won. Trust the coaches

Hurr durr, we won and are having our best season since 09. Lets bitch about dumb shit.

Edited November 6, 2023 by Pam Cummings