The Home Stretch - Big 12 Championship Scenarios

['stache 21,772]

UCF could be a problem and emotional letdowns happen. Reminds me of 2009 when we beat Georgia then were upset by Houston the next week. 

[Tonesky 917]

11 minutes ago, Acropora said:

Also, fuck OU, Aggy, LSU, Notre Dame and OU again.  We won, they lost  Such a great weekend!

Este!

[GreenspointTexas 9,566]

5 hours ago, immamac said:

I like the Oklahoma state and Texas big XII Championship. 

This

 

 

if we beat them, we will leave the big 12 having scoreboard over EVERY SINGLE BIG 12 TEAM WE HAVE FACED

[immamac 42,518]

Just now, GreenspointTexas said:

This

 

 

if we beat them, we will leave the big 12 having scoreboard over EVERY SINGLE BIG 12 TEAM WE HAVE FACED

Yep. 

[Texas Jeff 1,932]

BTW this is the Big XII championship thread, not the CFP playoff thread, so, first things first ... just win the next four...

However, checking out this Wikipedia page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/College_Football_Playoff

• 28 of 36 CFP teams were power five conf champs with 0 or 1 losses.
• 6 were one loss teams that either didn't make their conf championship game or lost in the championship game.
• The other two were an undefeated independent team (Notre Dame, duh) and an undefeated non-power five team (Cincy)
• No two loss team has been selected.

Baylor and TCU had 11-1 records in 2014, but there was no conf champ game, so both missed out.

Ohio State went 12-1 in 2018 and won the Big 10, but missed out.  They are the only one loss team to win their conference championship and not make the four team playoff.

Alabama has been picked seven of nine times, but was only undefeated three of those times.

There have never been four undefeated teams selected.

[Mother mopar 3,302]

I think you're the first to get my username in years.  Good to see another reefkeeper.  I'm in Hawaii about to dive amongst the coral.  
Back on topic, I think the number of teams that finish undefeated is almost always less than 2.  A 1 loss Texas will always get in.  We are the Jones's.  BOMC, the biggest brand in football, whatever.  
Also, fuck OU, Aggy, LSU, Notre Dame and OU again.  We won, they lost  Such a great weekend!
 
 

Was a huge reefer even posted on the thread here on Surly and Shag until a 3-day power outage put me out of the game post-Hurricane Sally

Yes, a one-loss Texas gets in cause we bring $$, TVs revenue eyeballs, etc.

[TrashMaster G 17,388]

1 hour ago, oSuJeff97 said:

Pussies and losers whine about incompetent refs. 

Fify

Please, please give us some incompetent refs.

And fuck you. You are either a complete dumbass or being intentionally obtuse.

My money is on the latter, but I can't rule out the former.

[troph 24,562]

It’s pretty clear, don’t fuck around, win out and the last Big 12 title with us in the conf is ours. Stop playing with fire sark AND TAKE THE POINTS.
 

[Teryor 4,422]

2 hours ago, Pancho said:

Who is thinking that? 

It’s also dumb to just expect that Texas is “automatically in” if we just win out and win the Big 12. That is equally as dumb. What is even more dumb is not recognizing that we may do our part and still get left out because of other situations. This fanbase needs to be prepared for that just as much as some are prepared for us to win out and get our first bid. That’s all.

 

 

 

I get that point of view and he's right if "everything holds" but the only top 10 team to lose as a large favorite this season has been Clemson (who obviously ended up sucking ass). We're way overdue multiple teams tripping over their dicks. 

[ITHorn 797]

1 hour ago, oSuJeff97 said:

Pussies and losers whine about refs. 

Cool, good to know you’ll never complain about getting fucked when playing Kansas at the Phog. Definitely no history of fuckery in this shithole of a conference. 

[troph 24,562]

19 minutes ago, Teryor said:

I get that point of view and he's right if "everything holds" but the only top 10 team to lose as a large favorite this season has been Clemson (who obviously ended up sucking ass). We're way overdue multiple teams tripping over their dicks. 

I’m hoping for Oregon state to fuck Washington up. Bitches leaving them behind going down. 

[Mother mopar 3,302]

I’m hoping for Oregon state to fuck Washington up. Bitches leaving them behind going down. 

This is something I support

[Assman 1,830]

I hate that we're even talking about this when we still have 3 very losable games left, but the best scenario for us to make the CFP is to win out and pray FSU loses to Miami, UF, or in the ACC Championship. The BIG, SEC, and PAC will have a spot unless Wash or Ore lose 2 which is very unlikely.

[gmr548 16,512]

CFP playoff predictor has us at 39% today and that’s 5th.
Alabama is at 41%

I think that’s probably more of a “Texas could conceivably lose any game on the schedule while Alabama really just plays Georgia at this point.”

Analytics both like this Alabama team and do not account for the rivalry factor in the iron bowl.

[Wilcox Cummingtonite 2,870]

9 hours ago, oSuJeff97 said:

Pussies and losers whine about refs. 

 

We’re gonna beat the shit out of you either way. Fuck you bitch.

Edited November 6, 2023 by Wilcox Cummingtonite

[LateAughtsHorn 588]

16 hours ago, Nicole44 said:

Damn, wish we had taken care of our own business and beat BlowU ugly. Oh well. I don’t think we are CFP ready. I’d like to believe we are but the signs have been evident all season long save the Bama game (one that was strenuously prepared for and scripted for the whole offseason) that we ain’t ready for that. We aren’t healthy either. Too many fucking injuries. I’d rather go to a Top Tier bowl and end it on a bowl win (even though Sark is like 2-5 in bowl games as a HC) and take that awesome momentum into the SEC. Jmo. We don’t control our own destiny here. 

This. I can only worry about controlling what we can control. Win out and win the conference. If we get in the cfp, good. But the conference has always been my goal for whether this season is "successful" or not. Arlington isn't even a lock yet. 

[Sgt Hulk 13,647]

There is no scenario anywhere on earth that makes me wanna play blowU again. Fuck them let them watch the big12 title from their meth roach infested trailer park  they can get fucked every way from Sunday 

 

additionally. We would be the weakest looking cfp team and any in the top 5 would boat race us at this current moment 

Edited November 6, 2023 by Sgt Hulk

[Texasborn91 897]

7 minutes ago, Sgt Hulk said:

There is no scenario anywhere on earth that makes me wanna play blowU again. Fuck them let them watch the big12 title from their meth roach infested trailer park  they can get fucked every way from Sunday 

 

additionally. We would be the weakest looking cfp team and any in the top 5 would boat race us at this current moment 

I wanted OU to win out so we could beat their ass to seal our spot in the CFP. If we were 100% healthy I’d take us against anybody. 

[MonkeyDoughnut 10,145]

IF it comes down to Texas / Alabama for the 1 loss final spot, in how the committee has weighed things in the past, I don't see them giving the spot to Alabama. They'll weigh improvement, early season loss etc, but given a head to head, given it was an Alabama home game, that is going to trump everything else.

[burntorangebongos 10,681]

Everyone wants to blacken our eye and have permanent scoreboard over us. That is the reality of the rest of the games we walk into against beatable teams. I'm glad that this young team believes in each other and haven't shown quit. The DB and QB play are their weakness that they've managed to mitigate to date. I just hope they can keep it up.

I thought last Saturday that we had lost the game but we stayed in it and the other coach blinked and made a bonehead decision that helped hand their team a loss. I think these Horns will stay in and fight.  I am going to trust that and though we have flaws, we don't have quit. That can get you wins. 

 

[Rickylovesweed 14,155]

On 11/5/2023 at 12:54 PM, Rickylovesweed said:

I'm calling a big upset this weekend. Oklahoma State @ UCF. 

UCF is a flawed team but they can score points with Plumlee at QB. An emotional letdown for Oklahoma State too. 

Still a long way to go but had a feeling UCF could win this one. This was a very tricky game for Oklahoma State. 

[C-Man 27,052]

Still a long way to go but had a feeling UCF could win this one. This was a very tricky game for Oklahoma State. 

Pokes are getting boat-raced ATM

[Pimphand 5,597]

16 minutes ago, Rickylovesweed said:

Still a long way to go but had a feeling UCF could win this one. This was a very tricky game for Oklahoma State. 

Definitely opens the door just a tad but they would still have to fuck up against BYU or UH

[Sgt Hulk 13,647]

On 11/5/2023 at 12:34 PM, 'stache said:

UCF could be a problem and emotional letdowns happen. Reminds me of 2009 when we beat Georgia then were upset by Houston the next week. 

My nyngidgba 

[CowboyFred 1,151]

On 11/5/2023 at 2:34 PM, 'stache said:

UCF could be a problem and emotional letdowns happen. Reminds me of 2009 when we beat Georgia then were upset by Houston the next week. 

Motherfucker 

 

ruining my parlay

[Dnaguy 11,775]

1 minute ago, C-Man said:

Pokes are getting boat-raced ATM

Of course.

Big12 gunna Big12 and do us no favors.

[Dnaguy 11,775]

2 minutes ago, Pimphand said:

Definitely opens the door just a tad but they would still have to fuck up against BYU or UH

Never underestimate the Gus Bus’ ability to break down

[LonghornSean 3,942]

1 minute ago, Pimphand said:

Definitely opens the door just a tad but they would still have to fuck up against BYU or UH

It would get messy and a three way tie including KSU would very much be in play. KSU has to play KU and ISU though.

[BarthHollamew 225]

Still can’t believe we let that weak OU team beat us in Dallas.  SMHF. 

[ousux 5,587]

Fuck sakes pokes

If every season were one game Gundy would have been toast years ago.

[Pimphand 5,597]

16 minutes ago, LonghornSean said:

It would get messy and a three way tie including KSU would very much be in play. KSU has to play KU and ISU though.

I'm pretty sure the tiebreaker is head to head winning % between the teams so if OSU, KSU, & OU all finish at 7-2 in conference play OSU still gets in because they went 2-0 against KSU & OU where OU went 0-1 and KSU went 0-1 since OU & KSU didn't face each other.

Edited November 11, 2023 by Pimphand

[Gucci_Suit 2,610]

The Big 12 is a Bob Saget joke. Both funny and sad.
 

Edited November 11, 2023 by Gucci_Suit

[Rickylovesweed 14,155]

Not sure Oklahoma State could have played a worse half. Lucky to only be down 24. 

[LonghornSean 3,942]

3 minutes ago, Pimphand said:

I'm pretty sure the tiebreaker is head to head winning % between the teams so if OSU, KSU, & OU all finish at 7-2 in conference play OSU still gets in because they went 2-0 against KSU & OU where OU went 0-1 and KSU went 0-1 since OU & KSU didn't face each other.

The head to head is thrown out in a three-way tie if all three haven’t played each other. Though that doesn’t make much sense if OSU beat both the others.

I believe It would then go to record against the next highest placed common opponents. 

Edited November 11, 2023 by LonghornSean

['stache 21,772]

Don’t care, won Bedlam.

(first part is a lie)

[gmr548 16,512]

I’m pretty sure Kansas is the actual second or third best team in this conference. They’ve just been dealt a shit hand with QB injuries

[Js1 85,109]

5 minutes ago, gmr548 said:

I’m pretty sure Kansas is the actual second or third best team in this conference. They’ve just been dealt a shit hand with QB injuries

Texas at the top

Then a big jumble of “wtf” with KU, KSU, ISU, OU, OSU

[Pato del Muerto 52,342]

I think Texas, ou, osu, and ksu can all finish with 2 losses. Texas doesnt play osu, ou doesn’t play ksu I believe. Would be quite the tiebreaker.  I’d prefer to 1) have tx with 1 loss and avoid it, obviously, or 2) have wvu take out ou and then would take the 2 loss spot, as neither of them should be losing their last 2. 

[Rickylovesweed 14,155]

I don't think OU or KSU will both run the table. 

KSU still has @ Kansas and Iowa State. OU still has WV, TCU @ BYU. I say one of these teams drops a game. 

 

[Chad 1,728]

Hell, anything can happen after today with KU losing and Okie St being mudholed.

[Rickylovesweed 14,155]

6 minutes ago, Chad said:

Hell, anything can happen after today with KU losing and Okie St being mudholed.

Yeah, I don't think it's a guarantee that Oklahoma State can beat Houston on the road either. 

['stache 21,772]

I think we’re still on track for the conference title game as long as you guys beat ISU.

[Huckleberry 32,701]

Just now, 'stache said:

I think we’re still on track for the conference title game as long as you guys beat ISU.

Well at this point I don't think either set of fans should be confident of no egg-laying through the end. But yes if we both win out I think that's still the result.

['stache 21,772]

I don’t see this happening at Houston but what do I know lol. Shit happens.

[Rickylovesweed 14,155]

Oklahoma State has pretty much been a no show against South Alabama, Iowa State, and UCF. 

I wouldn't be confident at all. My money says they play another shit game in 1 of the final 2 but luckily they're playing trash teams. 

[mdmost 42,865]

Just now, 'stache said:

I don’t see this happening at Houston but what do I know lol. Shit happens.

You don't just walk into...(checks notes)...TDECU Stadium and expect to win. 

[Rickylovesweed 14,155]

3 minutes ago, 'stache said:

I don’t see this happening at Houston but what do I know lol. Shit happens.

Houston is not good but they've been in close games almost all year at home. They're a better team at home than away. 

In the last two home games they beat WV (decent team) and almost beat Texas. I think they can definitely beat Oklahoma State at home if Oklahoma State doesn't play well. 

[Pato del Muerto 52,342]

At the other end, there’s a chance I think for all 4 of the new adds to finish 11-14 in conference. Baylor makes it unlikely but all of them in the bottom 5 would be a real accomplishment. 

[Pato del Muerto 52,342]

23 months ago, Cincinnati was in the cfb playoffs. Today they are winless in conference and dead last in the big 12. 
 

Their fans must be distraught, if they have any. 

[Dbeasy 14,969]

Please don’t tell me OU yet again will back their way into the big 12 title game. I can’t take it.