Game of Thrones Season 8 (NO BOOKSPOILERS) thread

[Hornin04 262]

The Drogon problem is probably why Bran is still there, I hope. Only way to really control Dany's one true advantage is for Bran to warg into it and kill it or even use it against her.

[Eskimohorn 5677]

The Drogon problem is probably why Bran is still there, I hope. Only way to really control Dany's one true advantage is for Bran to warg into it and kill it or even use it against her.

Depends on if its playoff Drogon or regular season Drogon. Just have a bunch of dudes in masks throw spears at it.

[BabaYaga 15532]

Just now, Horny04 said:

The Drogon problem is probably why Bran is still there, I hope. Only way to really control Dany's one true advantage is for Bran to warg into it and kill it or even use it against her.
 

Maybe.  Possibly.  Use Drogon to take out what (from the upcoming scenes to last episode) is still a considerably sized army.  Danny cries a lot. Waches (as Cersei did ) as her world crumbles in the same fashion as she did to the city.  Lots of screams, etc.  Then fly the dragon in the side of a mountain or something generic like that.

[Burt Macklin 19214]

1 minute ago, seven said:

Dany has been threatening to burn cities to the ground since early season 2. She's always been talked out of it. Anyone paying attention should not at all be surprised this happened after euron killed her dragon and then was provoked even further by killing missendei. The show has been preparing for this for a long time, a lot of you seem to have just never noticed. 

lol. It's actually the inverse. People who watch casually generally buy what Dany did. People who have followed the show and/or books closely don't seem to buy it.  I understand they've always alluded to it, but they've built up the part of her character that kills the guilty and protects the innocent exponentially more. Unrealistically killing one of her dragons and somehow capturing/executing one of her closest friends in a single episode with minimal reaction time from Dany didn't really lay the groundwork to believably undo her development for the last 7 1/2 seasons.

1 minute ago, Neonmoon said:

My guess

Dany puts Tyrion on trial. John intervenes. Greyworm fights Jon. He kills Greyworm. Dany gets her Dragon all ready to burn him and the north people. Bran wargs the dragon and flies away. Jon kills Dany. 

With where we're at with this show, I would actually enjoy all of that, but the writers have been shying away from the magic/fantasy elements of the show as much as possible for the last 2 seasons, so I doubt they'd go with the dragon warging route, even though I've been hoping to see it for a while. IMO, Bran warging the ice dragon would've been the best possible dragon warging plot.

I'm also not sure if they've really explained that warging a dragon would be close to impossible and pretty much be a suicide mission for Bran.

[BabaYaga 15532]

5 minutes ago, Burt Macklin said:

With where we're at with this show, I would actually enjoy all of that, but the writers have been shying away from the magic/fantasy elements of the show as much as possible for the last 2 seasons, so I doubt they'd go with the dragon warging route, even though I've been hoping to see it for a while. IMO, Bran warging the ice dragon would've been the best possible dragon warging plot.

I'm also not sure if they've really explained that warging a dragon would be close to impossible and pretty much be a suicide mission for Bran.

At this point, our junior varsity writers are going to completely shit the bed at the end thenext episode and pull a Terminator 2 and have the melted NK reconstitute....

[JimmyHoffa 1188]

1 hour ago, Hank Kingsley said:

I watched every episode. When the bells rang and Dany was staring menacingly at the Red Keep, it made complete sense for her to fly over their and burn Cersei into a crisp. 

There is zero character anecdotal evidence that justifies her calculatingly, row by row, street by street, making sure not to miss a single area of King's Landing, murder innocent women and children. 

I don't have a problem with the actual result of Dany turning into The Mad Queen. How we got there is the biggest issue. 

 

 

Thrones has been planting the seeds for a Mad Queen heel turn by Daenerys for years. A few moments from the series stand out in particular:

-In Season 1, she and Khal Drogo are excited to give birth to “The Stallion Who Mounts the World,” a near-messianic figure who Mirri Maz Duur says will burn cities to the ground.

-In Season 2, Dany repeats that idea, promising to “burn cities to the ground” once her dragons are fully grown, when she’s outside the gates of Qarth.

-In Season 6, she threatens to return the cities of Slaver’s Bay “to the dirt.”

-Throughout the show, Daenerys has burned people alive: first a master in Meereen, then the Tarlys, and then Varys in this latest episode.

https://www.theringer.com/game-of-thrones/2019/5/13/18617389/game-of-thrones-daenerys-targaryen-season-8-episode-5-mad-queen

 

I'm not saying it was done perfectly but those complaining that the heel turn came out of left field haven't been watching. She has always been walking the fine line of wanting to be the people's queen and the next minute having everyone and their brother "bend the knee" to show her the respect she deserves. 

And now of course we have people bitching because "male writers" ruined a strong female character because they are males. (not you just twitter being twitter)

It was a solid episode, yes there were plenty of holes but I still enjoyed it and at this point second guessing everything just doesn't seem like it's worth it. 

 

 

[Irish Wrist Watch 1470]

A lot of what we are seeing comes down to economics. Emilia Clarke supposedly wants out of the series, so she signs on for four weeks of filming (or something like that, perhaps). So she sits on a dragon and stands by a window for most of the season. Heads up - they don't film this shit sequentially. They go to a location, set up the lighting for the shot, the actors come in and do their lines, then go drink coffee and try to get laid. Then they set up the next shot. You could theoretically film the last scene in the first take of the season.

 

Maybe the Directors want some other shit to happen, maybe they even decide later to do it, but Clarke wants X hundred thousand to return for a week, so they pass. I think quite often they will film a character from the rear - maybe for almost every scene, in case they need to change dialogue somewhere in the story. That way they can show him delivering the lines, but you can't see his lips move. At the end, the editors piece what they have together and hope they've got all the shots they need.

 

They say that the Oscar for film editing is usually indicative of which film gets the Best Picture award.

Edited May 13, 2019 by Irish Wrist Watch

[Chuckie Finster 22978]

I suspect last night's episode was the one that had the most GRRM input.  It just felt more like old school GoT: that feeling of impending doom, the grim reality of war,  even the "let's not give the audience the satisfaction of a Cersei kill" felt like a classic GoT rug pull.  I suspect GRRM told gave the writers a few plot points of how he envisioned this whole journey ending, and left it up to them to get us there.

I think the issue is that the show failed to successfully get us there.  Yes, Dany going mad is a logical conclusion.  No, I did not quite understand why she felt the need to torch an entire city in the process.  Yes, a dragon overpowering an army is a logical conclusion.  No, I don't understand why the scorpions were framed as a dragon-neutralizer one episode and then a non-factor the next.  Yes, Cersei and Jaime going down in each other's arms while their city crumbles around them is a logical conclusion.  No, I did not quite buy the entirety of Jaime's story arc (ESPECIALLY the Brienne romance).  Yes, Varys finally getting comeuppance for being a shady ass gossip queen is a logical conclusion.  No, I don't feel like they upped the stakes enough to make it feel like THIS breech of trust was worse than any of his other ones.

Honestly, and kind of strangely, I feel like Grey Worm was one character whose motivations were pretty fleshed out, and I think that's the reason why he's not really mentioned in the complaints.  Because we understand why he went fucking nuts.  It makes sense.

It was easily my favorite episode of the season and I thought it had a lot of classic Game of Thrones elements that it executed well, and in another universe, with slightly different preceding events, this exact same episode could have been a fantastic penultimate chapter to an all-time great show.  Now, though, it just doesn't quite feel like we earned it.

Edited May 13, 2019 by Chuckie Finster

[Hank Kingsley 21600]

2 minutes ago, JimmyHoffa said:

I'm not saying it was done perfectly but those complaining that the heel turn came out of left field haven't been watching.

 

No one is surprised about the heel turn. It didn't feel like some shocking twist. What we're saying is it wasn't earned through character development or storyline. 

 

[smuggs 9394]

As someone else said earlier in this thread - they should have wrapped up the Night King story in season 7 and dedicated a full final six extended length episodes to the battle for the throne. All of this would have been easier to swallow.

 

[JimmyHoffa 1188]

1 minute ago, Hank Kingsley said:

No one is surprised about the heel turn. It didn't feel like some shocking twist. What we're saying is it wasn't earned through character development or storyline. 

 

 

There are plenty of people "surprised" and unhappy with the turn. I agree, the story has been absolutely rushed but we should have all known that was going to happen as soon as we found out there was on 6 episodes to tie up so many loose ends.  

[ATLLonghorn 1085]

I'm in the camp of really disliking the abruptness of Daenerys' heel turn. The problem is that so much of what has happened this season now feels like filler. I really enjoyed the episode before The Long Night because that was the one where the writers played on all the relationships we've seen developed over the previous seven seasons and so many characters got wonderful moments in it. Ultimately, all of the important characters in that episode survived. Last week's episode was about 45-50 minutes of slow moving plot development and then like 20 minutes of action. We're looking at 1.75 episodes of a six episode season not really doing much to establish what was supposed to be the biggest twist of the final season. 

 

[Hank Kingsley 21600]

1 minute ago, JimmyHoffa said:

 

There are plenty of people "surprised" and unhappy with the turn. I agree, the story has been absolutely rushed but we should have all known that was going to happen as soon as we found out there was on 6 episodes to tie up so many loose ends.  

My point is that if you told every GOT watcher two seasons ago that Dany would turn into the Mad Queen no one would be surprised. But they would have assumed her character and storyline would have properly led her to that ending, which it didn't. 

 

 

[Mojo Hand 4580]

18 minutes ago, JimmyHoffa said:

 

Thrones has been planting the seeds for a Mad Queen heel turn by Daenerys for years. A few moments from the series stand out in particular:

-In Season 1, she and Khal Drogo are excited to give birth to “The Stallion Who Mounts the World,” a near-messianic figure who Mirri Maz Duur says will burn cities to the ground.

-In Season 2, Dany repeats that idea, promising to “burn cities to the ground” once her dragons are fully grown, when she’s outside the gates of Qarth.

-In Season 6, she threatens to return the cities of Slaver’s Bay “to the dirt.”

-Throughout the show, Daenerys has burned people alive: first a master in Meereen, then the Tarlys, and then Varys in this latest episode.

https://www.theringer.com/game-of-thrones/2019/5/13/18617389/game-of-thrones-daenerys-targaryen-season-8-episode-5-mad-queen

 

I'm not saying it was done perfectly but those complaining that the heel turn came out of left field haven't been watching. She has always been walking the fine line of wanting to be the people's queen and the next minute having everyone and their brother "bend the knee" to show her the respect she deserves. 

And now of course we have people bitching because "male writers" ruined a strong female character because they are males. (not you just twitter being twitter)

It was a solid episode, yes there were plenty of holes but I still enjoyed it and at this point second guessing everything just doesn't seem like it's worth it. 

 

 

I don't think too many (any?) people are complaining here about Dany turning bad/crazy, but just with the circumstances under which it happened.   There is a big difference between burning alive soldiers/officials who refuse to surrender or who betray her, on the one hand, and a surrendered population of civilians including children on the other (along with her own troops and Arya, who were in the trenches too).  Especially for a character who is well-established to have a particular soft spot for innocent victims of tyrants. 

And I'm not saying I couldn't buy Dany slaughtering a bunch of kids, if there was a convincing turn of events justifying that transition.   But what was the trigger for taking this enormous step?   She won, and the people essentially defied Cersei to ring the bells and surrender.   Going straight for Cersei would have been in character.   Having Cersei fake the surrender and launch a surprise attack that fails, leading angry Dany to torch everything because there was no real surrender, would have been in character and reached the same result.   It just made no sense to me that Dany would choose to go street by street to slaughter civilians in that moment. 

Edited May 13, 2019 by Mojo Hand

[Hornin04 262]

Do the unsullied reproduce asexually? That army has taken a lot of hits and looks bigger than ever in that photo.

[LonghornSean 4072]

2 hours ago, Neonmoon said:

Her mother died giving birth to her.

Her father was murdered, stabbed in the back by his sworm protector, Jamie Lannister

Her eldest brother Rhaegar was killed by Robert Baratheon. Rhaegar's wife and children were murdered by the Lannisters during the sack of King's Landing. 

The Lannisters forced her and her brother to flee across the Narrow sea to Pentos. 

She was sold to a foreign horse worshipper who basically rapes her on her wedding night. 

Her baby was stillborn. Her husband died 

The Lannisters try to kill her again

Cersei promises to send troops to help with Night Walkers, doesn't. 

Cersei/Euron kill one of her dragons with Scorpion arrows. 

Cersei cuts the head off her best friend Meisandre. 

 

Yeah....just flipped the switch there. 

 

 

Maybe flipping a switch was a bad choice of words. But Dany has had a stated goal of ruling without tyranny, protecting innocents, etc.  And in the time since all the things you described (except Missandei's death) we have seen Dany be logical, politically savvy, and empathetic. Clearly not insane. The Mad King had voices in his head (he went mad). Sure seems to me Dany went fully mad at some point in the last two episodes in order to be capable of the atrocities we saw.

I get her being ruthless, vengeful, and power hungry. We have seen plenty of that. After Missandei's death and what she perceives as Jon's betrayal, I could understand her roasting Cersei, the Red Keep, and all of its innocent inhabitants. Just some collateral damage in her quest for the Iron Throne and power over Westeros. But why is she intentionally burning the streets of KL, nowhere near the red keep after she clearly heard the bells ringing?  The city and Lannister troops already feared her at that point. Was she having a psychotic break? We don't really know since we don't see her face after she starts her destruction.  That's why I'm interested to see how she is acting next week.

[Hank Kingsley 21600]

Question: Was the last time we saw Dany's face last night when she was staring menacingly at the Red Keep? I don't recall a single moment of seeing her face/reactions while riding the dragon and torching KL. 

Basically she turned in to the Mad Queen and it was just background action while focusing on other characters.

 

 

[ATLLonghorn 1085]

I also just realized I'm never entirely sure if it's Lena Headey or Lena Headley like this is goddamn Blazing Saddles.

[Hank Kingsley 21600]

Cersei Lannister, crying in the arms of her one true love and perishing from a building collapse, was given a touching and graceful death. 

Fucking hilarious. What a waste of time. 

 

[Barry_McCokiner 160]

45 minutes ago, Neonmoon said:

My guess

Dany puts Tyrion on trial. John intervenes. Greyworm fights Jon. He kills Greyworm. Dany gets her Dragon all ready to burn him and the north people. Bran wargs the dragon and flies away. Jon kills Dany. 

I think Greyworm would beat Jon's ass, skill wise.

[High Plains Drifter 11162]

 

 

57 minutes ago, DigglerontheHoof said:

Starks kill Danny, Drogon goes ape shit, kills er'body, burns Westeros and Essos; Planet of the Dragons!!!

 

Turns out this was all just a prequel to Reign of Fire. Jon Snow is actually this guy:

 

 

[Nivek 17334]

Yep. From a macro-storytelling perspective and micro-detail perspective.  Dragons are easy to kill in episode 4 but impossible to kill in episode 5. Dragon fire doesn’t explode castles in episode 3, but it can cut a parapet of the Red Keep in half and explode through the outer wall of king’s Landing in episode 5.
If dragon fire just explodes everything in it’s path, then why didn’t Jon die at the end of episode 3, when he’s hiding behind a 3 foot high stone wall?
on and on the list of huge inconsistencies go. 

Rejoice in the fact that they will be working on a Star Wars and the precedent has been set for lightsabers to cut through metal and chop limbs with east to glancing off of leather jackets.

[Hugo Stiglitz 23367]

The whole story is about the corruption of good men and women. 

Stannis was corrupted by his lust for power. 

The Hound was corrupted by revenge.

Jaime was corrupted by the love for his sister.

Dany was corrupted by her lust for power.

Tyrion has been corrupted by his loyalty to his queen. 

Arya was almost corrupted by revenge. 

Jon Snow? Will he be corrupted by his loyalty to his queen?  

The characters that seem incorruptible usually end up murdered by the ones that are:  Ned Stark and Varys are good examples. 

[utxmike05 1833]

Woke up hating it now...I wanted to like it.  But I'm on the ship with the writer's mailed it in.  They have rushed everything this season.  All the build up a from prior seasons....threw everyone together with little explanations on things we want to hear.  They took a page out of the Lost writing book.

Varys going out so quick?  Hope he did send out that message about Jon being the true heir.

Cersei with the romantic death..who wanted that?? No confrontation of a face to face with any of the other team.

Jon again didn't really do shit...not important.  Just more of nice guy Jon staring confused about what is right and wrong.

Can we see other scenes and not Arya running around and around....and around?

Build up to Dany going mad was sorta there...but wanted more.

Clegane bowl was legit...just wished it meant something like going through Mountain to get to Cersei so Arya could fight...but then maybe Jaime steps in before Arya. But hey...l'm no writer.  But I realize that was strictly personal between the bros.

At least Aaron Rodgers got burned.

 

 

I don't think I will ever re-watch S8, and I am a huge fan of this series.  

[Tex-19 3009]

I may not be remembering right but didn't Dany used to talk about how she wanted to "break the system or wheel" or something like that? Doesn't really explain killing innocent people but would be consistent with destroying King's Landing / Red Keep.

Also I think this storyline would've been classic GoT if it had been allowed to play out more slowly and in more detail. Unfortunately they're squeezing all of this into a few episodes, when previously it may have been over 2-3 seasons with a lot more intricacy. Just an unfortunate byproduct of the business side of the show and saving too much for the end

[ChickenSandwich 9921]

55 minutes ago, Neonmoon said:

My guess

Dany puts Tyrion on trial. John intervenes. Greyworm fights Jon. He kills Greyworm. Dany gets her Dragon all ready to burn him and the north people. Bran wargs the dragon and flies away. Jon kills Dany. 

Tyrion kills Danny like his brother the Kingslayer. 

Poison

 

Edited May 13, 2019 by ChickenSandwich

[Mojo Hand 4580]

5 minutes ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

The whole story is about the corruption of good men and women. 

Stannis was corrupted by his lust for power. 

The Hound was corrupted by revenge.

Jaime was corrupted by the love for his sister.

Dany was corrupted by her lust for power.

Tyrion has been corrupted by his loyalty to his queen. 

Arya was almost corrupted by revenge. 

Jon Snow? Will he be corrupted by his loyalty to his queen?  

The characters that seem incorruptible usually end up murdered by the ones that are:  Ned Stark and Varys are good examples. 

That strikes me as simplistic and not at all accurate.   The Hound wasn't a good man corrupted by revenge.   If anything, he was a bad man redeemed by revenge.  Tyrion hadn't been corrupted by loyalty to the queen.  If anything, he was redeemed from a life of drunken waste by believing in this queen, and loyalty to her didn't stop him from freeing his brother in an attempt to prevent slaughter, so I don't see the corruption either.  Dany got the power she sought, and was corrupted, apparently, purely by heriditary insanity. 

Edited May 13, 2019 by Mojo Hand

[Hugo Stiglitz 23367]

2 minutes ago, Mojo Hand said:

That strikes me as simplistic and not at all accurate.   The Hound wasn't a good man corrupted by revenge.   If anything, he was a bad man redeemed by revenge.  Tyrion hadn't been corrupted by loyalty to the queen.  If anything, he was redeemed from a life of drunken waste by believing in this queen, and loyalty didn't stop him from freeing his brother in an attempt to prevent slaughter.  Dany got the power she sought, and was corrupted, apparently, purely by heriditary insanity. 

We’re going to have to agree to disagree but Tyrion selling out Varys was his crossing of the rubicon to the corrupted. 

The hound was a bad man because his older brother burned his face off as a child and he sought revenge ever since. 

Dany still hasn’t obtained the power she seeks, that’s why she felt it necessary to burn King’s Landing to the ground. 

[Hank Kingsley 21600]

The penultimate episode of GoT, the battle at King's Landing, Cersei vs. Jon & Dany...and the bad guys put up absolutely no fight. Not a single second of confrontation or drama written regarding this final battle. Amazing. 

 

 

[PilotsError 2339]

Listening to the dipshits on Inside the Episodes plants a hatred for them within my soul.  

[Barry_McCokiner 160]

3 minutes ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

We’re going to have to agree to disagree but Tyrion selling out Varys was his crossing of the rubicon to the corrupted. 

The hound was a bad man because his older brother burned his face off as a child and he sought revenge ever since. 

Dany still hasn’t obtained the power she seeks, that’s why she felt it necessary to burn King’s Landing to the ground. 

To me Tyrion was just beign loyal to Dany, though he obviously had his doubts.  I knew he would turn Varys in. 

[Seasick Sailor 3747]

 

[Pato del Muerto 53339]

2 hours ago, TwiceHorn said:

My problem with the show is the wild inconsistency.  For maybe four seasons, it had a fairly brilliant mixture of intelligent drama and gratuitous violence. 

For the last four, it has veered drunkenly between mediocre drama (either glacially slow or predictable, or both) and gratuitous violence.

I'm not big on this type of fantasy as a general proposition.  If the show had started out like it's finishing up, I never would have gotten into it, and I'd venture that few others would either.

Also less tits as there’s gotten to be more fighting and less fucking

[LonghornSean 4072]

Just now, Pato del Muerto said:

Also less tits as there’s gotten to be more fighting and less fucking

[Hugo Stiglitz 23367]

Just now, Barry_McCokiner said:

To me Tyrion was just beign loyal to Dany,

And then he tried to compensate for his misplaced loyalty by freeing Jaime (not very loyal) to prevent the deaths of thousands of people.  Tyrion learned the hard way that ringing the bells wasn't going to stop Dany for burning the city to the ground. 

[Nivek 17334]

I never liked grey worm. Stupid face, tight clothes, kills people with a spear with a slash from the wooden end. Mopey. A spear is a liability in close combat and better for ranged.

A real KL army would have kept archers on rooftops and slaughtered the dickless army.

[Fozzz 152]

2 hours ago, Hank Kingsley said:

I watched every episode. When the bells rang and Dany was staring menacingly at the Red Keep, it made complete sense for her to fly over their and burn Cersei into a crisp. 

There is zero character anecdotal evidence that justifies her calculatingly, row by row, street by street, making sure not to miss a single area of King's Landing, murder innocent women and children. 

I don't have a problem with the actual result of Dany turning into The Mad Queen. How we got there is the biggest issue. 

 

This is where I'm at.  She's vengeful but not a bloodthirsty maniac willing to slaughter innocent civilians for the hell of it.  

[SuingToGetAMessageBoard? 3861]

1 minute ago, Pato del Muerto said:

Also less tits as there’s gotten to be more fighting and less fucking

however, we still have the presence of mind to hold hands and exchange flirty looks on the ship to the final war.

[Hank Kingsley 21600]

Just now, Hugo Stiglitz said:

Tyrion learned the hard way

The last few seasons of his character summed up. What a waste. 

 

 

[Kel Varnsen 8682]

Half of this season has been dedicated to watching Arya stumbling around streets and playing hide and seek with wights.

[SuingToGetAMessageBoard? 3861]

another mechanical problem that probably doesn't fall on D&D is as the series ends, the story necessarily gets smaller and smaller.  no spread out exotic locations with people dealing with different types of problems and different plot lines.  everyone instead is doing one thing.  

[Hornin04 262]

A real KL army would have kept archers on rooftops and slaughtered the dickless army.

In relation to this, where did that giant explosion come from behind the gate? I just saw a fireball but no dragon hanging out back there. And I'm assuming this is why the archers did not attack ass the army advanced, they were surprised by the giant fireball

[Hank Kingsley 21600]

Cersei in Season 1 to Ned: "When you play the game of thrones, you win or you die."

8 seasons of Cersei being a ruthless, bad motherfucker. 

Last night, sobbing to Jaime: "I don't want to die". 

Get the fuck out of here. 

 

[Pato del Muerto 53339]

Yep, even in the title sequence they had to expand the time at winterfell and kings landing because there’s no other areas where the story exists any longer. They didn’t even do dragonstone, much like Cersei didn’t take dragonstone while it was vacated for the NK fight. 

But why take or destroy an enemy HQ island with your supposedly superior navy when you can just let them head back to it to plan their attack and muster at close range?

[Burt Macklin 19214]

13 minutes ago, Tex-19 said:

I may not be remembering right but didn't Dany used to talk about how she wanted to "break the system or wheel" or something like that? Doesn't really explain killing innocent people but would be consistent with destroying King's Landing / Red Keep.

Also I think this storyline would've been classic GoT if it had been allowed to play out more slowly and in more detail. Unfortunately they're squeezing all of this into a few episodes, when previously it may have been over 2-3 seasons with a lot more intricacy. Just an unfortunate byproduct of the business side of the show and saving too much for the end

Her "break the wheel" talk that was a constant with her character was all about ending tyranny, so naturally how else does on accomplish that any other way besides burning a million people and ruling mercilessly solely by fear?

7 minutes ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

We’re going to have to agree to disagree but Tyrion selling out Varys was his crossing of the rubicon to the corrupted. 

 

lol wut? The Hand to the Queen reporting a plot for treason to the Queen is the sign he's gone fully corrupted?  ok then.

6 minutes ago, PilotsError said:

Listening to the dipshits on Inside the Episodes plants a hatred for them within my soul.  

So much this. It's the absolute fucking worst. Every episode they explain feelings and motivations of characters that were never actually shown during the episode.

[Eskimohorn 5677]

Do the unsullied reproduce asexually? That army has taken a lot of hits and looks bigger than ever in that photo.

They had their beacons on so they were spared the napalm. They communicated their positions with menacing glances. Hardly any casualties.

[PilotsError 2339]

Maybe they'll just hand Dany a Snickers next episode and she'll sheepishly snap out of it.

[Hugo Stiglitz 23367]

4 minutes ago, Burt Macklin said:

lol wut? The Hand to the Queen reporting a plot for treason to the Queen is the sign he's gone fully corrupted?  ok then.

You know Hitler had people that were loyal to him too.  Very fine people. 

[Mojo Hand 4580]

She hadn't turned into Hitler yet. 

[MirrOlure 15196]

10 hours ago, Hank Kingsley said:

The easiest layup in the history of television was having literally ANYONE kill Cersei. And they blew it. On purpose. 

 

I actually give them credit for taking an even that we've all been craving for years (Cersei's death), and marginalizing it by turning Khalesi into a monstrous Public Enemy No. 1....which, as has been well-established, we should have seen all along.