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I suppose it's possible, but McClaren's already been caught once this year with the flexing wing.  I think Red Bull is a default choice for fans on these things.  Also, they did a really shitty job cheating if it is Red Bull.

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33 minutes ago, kevwun said:

Nah it's probably McClaren or Ferrari.

Leaving out the team that pretty much always bends the rules and just had a huge loss in performance right after the FIA "clarified" you can't have an asymmetric braking device is a weird move. 

3 minutes ago, Chewbacca said:

Everyone on reddit thinks it's Red Bull.

More specifically, an F1 journalist is reporting that Red Bull is the team being accused of cheating by other teams. 

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Max last won a race over a month before the rule change was made about braking.  The slide started way before that.  More likely is that none of their upgrades have worked since Newey stopped working on the car.

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5 minutes ago, kevwun said:

Max last won a race over a month before the rule change was made about braking.  The slide started way before that.  More likely is that none of their upgrades have worked since Newey stopped working on the car.

What does any of that have to do with the fact that Red Bull admitted they changed their car for Austin, specifically for this issue?

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10 minutes ago, kevwun said:

Max last won a race over a month before the rule change was made about braking.  The slide started way before it.

This is some impressive head in the sand shit right here.

It wasn't a rule change. The braking device was always illegal. Also, the FIA always goes to the teams first about this before they make any public announcement, just like they did with the Ferrari engines in 2019. Ferrari's pace dropped off way before a public announcement was made. 

Same thing happened with Red Bull. Max finished first or second in every race up to the British Grand Prix on 7/7.  Since that race, his pace has dropped off a cliff and has usually been finishing around 5th place over 20 seconds behind the leader. There's a very clear correlation between Max's huge decrease in pace and when the FIA started investigating this issue.

Now Red Bull has admitted to the ride height device and said they changed their car after discussing with the FIA. 

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11 minutes ago, Burt Macklin said:

This is some impressive head in the sand shit right here.

It wasn't a rule change. The braking device was always illegal. Also, the FIA always goes to the teams first about this before they make any public announcement, just like they did with the Ferrari engines in 2019. Ferrari's pace dropped off way before a public announcement was made. 

Same thing happened with Red Bull. Max finished first or second in every race up to the British Grand Prix on 7/7.  Since that race, his pace has dropped off a cliff and has usually been finishing around 5th place over a minute behind the leader. There's a very clear correlation between Max's huge decrease in pace and when the FIA started investigating this issue.

Now Red Bull has admitted to the ride height device and said they changed their car after discussing with the FIA. 

I have found several articles that say no team was using the braking device and it was about cleaning up the rules before anyone did because there were some teams who had it almost ready to go.  Red Bull isn't slower than last year, other teams just have faster cars now. 

https://www.motorsportmagazine.com/articles/single-seaters/f1/mph-claims-surrounding-red-bulls-performance-drop-are-total-fantasy/

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