Formula 1 2024

[Mittens 8258]

32 minutes ago, texas08 said:

RB is broken, and I like it. Mix it up!

Aye!  Gotta love this grid!  

[texas08 1599]

let’s gooooo

[Mr. Drummond 2198]

.17 between P1 and P6 and then .5 to the red bulls.   yes please.

[Mittens 8258]

My conspiracy theory is that Newey has quiet quit or is intentionally sabotaging RBR.  

[Hawndoh 2386]

Nah, I think there is just too much dysfunction at RB and people can't trust each other and may be angling for jobs at other teams and are competing against each other for spots next year.

Hard to have a cohesive team in that kind of environment.

[Mittens 8258]

That's not nearly as fun.

[wood 11225]

11 minutes ago, Mittens said:

My conspiracy theory is that Newey has quiet quit or is intentionally sabotaging RBR.  

IIRC he had to step out of any significant car development roles as soon as he announced he was leaving, and was even told which areas he was allowed to stand in, etc. TBF, that's SOP in these suituations. So yeah, I think RBR's performance could already be showing the effects of his absence, but who knows? I've heard that his contract ends today, so I expect an announcement of some sort soon, probably at the beginning of the next GP weekend.

Add in what hawndoh said, which could be true as well, and don't forget that RBR hasn't just lost Newey. They've lost a lot of engineering talent over the last couple of years.

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[Chewbacca 7767]

Alonso saying P11 is better than expected. Getting that tractor close to Q3 session is pretty dang good. AM and VCARB in season development is trash. 

Yeah, I was shocked to see Danny get P12. Saw a race pace analysis based on practice and VCARB is running .8-.9 sec per lap behind the leaders.

[Chewbacca 7767]

My conspiracy theory is that Newey has quiet quit or is intentionally sabotaging RBR.  

I don't think he has touched the F1 car since the beginning of the season, which would track with their drop-off.

Also, the cheater brakes RB got caught with before Miami is hurting them.

[Goofyboy 3269]

I don't think he has touched the F1 car since the beginning of the season, which would track with their drop-off.

Also, the cheater brakes RB got caught with before Miami is hurting them.

If they were cheating - why don’t they lose points?

[Chewbacca 7767]

If they were cheating - why don’t they lose points?

I don't know. Why did RB's performance drop off at the same time the braking rule was amended?

[wood 11225]

4 hours ago, Chewbacca said:

I don't think he has touched the F1 car since the beginning of the season, which would track with their drop-off.

Also, the cheater brakes RB got caught with before Miami is hurting them.

 

3 hours ago, Goofyboy said:

If they were cheating - why don’t they lose points?

That was a rumor that some F1 media outlets have debunked.

[Buzzrock 14903]

My daughter will be excited about Louis Tomlinson on the grid walk.

[aggie08 21491]

Verstappen trying to hang on to a 70 point lead with 9 races to go in a busted (compared to what he's gotten used to) car. Should be fun and not dangerous at all.

[Goofyboy 3269]

McLaren needs to let Norris go through after he passes Charles. He has a small shot at the drivers championship

[deft 6839]

Ouch. Danny Ric’s mechanic on passenger front is gonna be kicking himself for that.

[deft 6839]

Geez, boxing after only 22 laps of hards. Slow stop, and put on more hards. Throw it all away Red Bull.

[Buzzrock 14903]

Lando what you doing

[52-80 19147]

Funniest thing about red bull no longer providing the fastest car is verstappen bitching about all the shit that he himself does: not leaving space, moving under braking, etc. 

My guess is with the pressure from Norris hes going to shunt him off one of these races. 

[deft 6839]

Piastri could have lasted. He didn’t need to pit. Charles is riding these tires all the way to the end.
Edit:such a bitch move even says the commenters

[The_Great_Hornsby 3236]

Norris only getting 3rd is a disastrous result considering he couldve made up a lot more points. 

[deft 6839]

They need to give team orders to swap them for wdc points

[Goofyboy 3269]

That was a great race for Charles!!!!

[aggie08 21491]

20 minutes ago, deft said:

They need to give team orders to swap them for wdc points

I'm usually pretty strongly on the "fuck team orders" side of things when both have pace, but Norris has to be pretty livid right now. A month ago, he got lectured on worldwide television for damn near an hour about the importance of team in winning a championship before finally letting Oscar through to take his first race win. Only for Oscar to dive bomb him on lap 1, turn fucking 2 aggressively enough that it allowed the driver closest to Norris in points to slide between them.

[aggie08 21491]

23 minutes ago, Goofyboy said:

That was a great race for Charles!!!!

No clue how he went 37 laps on his tires when it seemed like everyone else was royally struggling to make it to 20.

[aggie08 21491]

40 minutes ago, deft said:

Piastri could have lasted. He didn’t need to pit. Charles is riding these tires all the way to the end.
Edit:such a bitch move even says the commenters

McLaren asked him point blank if he could make it with about 15 laps left, and he pretty unequivocally said no.

[aggie08 21491]

No clue what Red Bull was thinking pitting Max a second time. He was in 5th, 13 seconds up on Hamilton with 12 laps left. Lewis had fresher tires and might have caught up to the back of him, but he could have at least defended 5th. Pitting cemented him into 6th, 13 seconds behind Lewis. Odd now that Max's points actually matter again. I assume shooting for fastest lap and a "guaranteed" 9 points*, rather than risking 8 points. 

Just stoked to be this late in the season questioning strategy over 2 points from the current WDC leader.

*Lando bettered Max's time on new mediums with older hards, which shows how much better the McLarens are right now

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[NoName 16351]

Lololol

Edited September 1 by NoName

[NoName 16351]

26 minutes ago, aggie08 said:

I'm usually pretty strongly on the "fuck team orders" side of things when both have pace, but Norris has to be pretty livid right now. A month ago, he got lectured on worldwide television for damn near an hour about the importance of team in winning a championship before finally letting Oscar through to take his first race win. Only for Oscar to dive bomb him on lap 1, turn fucking 2 aggressively enough that it allowed the driver closest to Norris in points to slide between them.

Man the lap one stuff I put on Lando. Clearly has a huge issues there all the way around and has all year / his career.

If the goal is to tell PIA to tske it easy on lap 1 in that situation then that's horrific team management.

[NoName 16351]

Incredible 

 

[ChickenSandwich 9828]

10 minutes ago, aggie08 said:

No clue what Red Bull was thinking pitting Max a second time. He was in 5th, 13 seconds up on Hamilton with 12 laps left. Lewis had fresher tires and might have caught up to the back of him, but he could have at least defended 5th. Pitting cemented him into 6th, 13 seconds behind Lewis. Odd now that Max's points actually matter again. I assume shooting for fastest lap and a "guaranteed" 9 points*, rather than risking 8 points. 

Just stoked to be this late in the season questioning strategy over 2 points from the current WDC leader.

*Lando bettered Max's time on new mediums with older hards, which shows how much better the McLarens are right now

Wasn’t Max’s first stop for a second set of hards?

[dieucla98 2942]

11 minutes ago, aggie08 said:

No clue what Red Bull was thinking pitting Max a second time. He was in 5th, 13 seconds up on Hamilton with 12 laps left. Lewis had fresher tires and might have caught up to the back of him, but he could have at least defended 5th. Pitting cemented him into 6th, 13 seconds behind Lewis. Odd now that Max's points actually matter again. I assume shooting for fastest lap and a "guaranteed" 9 points*, rather than risking 8 points. 

Just stoked to be this late in the season questioning strategy over 2 points from the current WDC leader.

*Lando bettered Max's time on new mediums with older hards, which shows how much better the McLarens are right now

He had to pit a 2nd time because they went H - H. Needed to change to a different compound or incur a penalty.

[aggie08 21491]

2 minutes ago, ChickenSandwich said:

Wasn’t Max’s first stop for a second set of hards?

 

1 minute ago, dieucla98 said:

He had to pit a 2nd time because they went H - H. Needed to change to a different compound or incur a penalty.

Ah yes, forgot about the multiple compound rule. Mea culpa.

[aggie08 21491]

9 minutes ago, NoName said:

Man the lap one stuff I put on Lando. Clearly has a huge issues there all the way around and has all year / his career.

If the goal is to tell PIA to tske it easy on lap 1 in that situation then that's horrific team management.

I thought Lando got off pretty decently this time for a change. Oscar really had to jam his way in there, forcing Norris to brake.

[NoName 16351]

Haas should bump KMAG for the rest of the season now that he's suspended. A race suspension is hard to get.

[Mittens 8258]

Hard not to love a Ferrari win at Monza, and I typically revel in their misery.

[NoName 16351]

Enjoyed this vid

LEC is very very good 

 

Edited September 1 by NoName

[deft 6839]

McLaren is only 8 points behind in the WCC now. This persistence in staying with checo is really paying off.

[Buzzrock 14903]

Haas should bump KMAG for the rest of the season now that he's suspended. A race suspension is hard to get.

Did they say why TSU went out? Was it because of the MAG contact?

[52-80 19147]

35 minutes ago, deft said:

McLaren is only 8 points behind in the WCC now. This persistence in staying with checo is really paying off.

No kidding. 4 victories difference yet only single digit points ahead lol. Ferrari is not too far behind. 1 DNF from verstappen and Ferrari can claw ~30 points back just like that

[The_Great_Hornsby 3236]

6 minutes ago, 52-80 said:

No kidding. 4 victories difference yet only single digit points ahead lol. Ferrari is not too far behind. 1 DNF from verstappen and Ferrari can claw ~30 points back just like that

Very clear to me that RBR will finish 3rd in the WCC and probably first in the WDC. 

[G650 14243]

2 hours ago, Mittens said:

Hard not to love a Ferrari win at Monza, and I typically revel in their misery.

[Dutch 4465]

I’m not a Ferrari fan, but who’s not down for a Ferrari win at Monza? Scenes. 

And Oscar seems better than Lando.

[kevwun 15764]

I think he will be eventually if he’s not currently.  He’s steadier.

[52-80 19147]

What the everlivingfuck happened to aston martin?

 

[Hawndoh 2386]

4 minutes ago, 52-80 said:

What the everlivingfuck happened to aston martin?

 

Same thing that happens to them every year. They start strong but have no development during the season.

[deft 6839]

Same thing that happens to them every year. They start strong but have no development during the season.

Maybe it’s just luck and the car, but it seems like piastri being this good this fast could be the next superstar. I think he’ll be regularly beating lando soon and especially if lando can’t figure out still being p1 by lap 2.

[Anton Chigurh 3319]

That made me try and go find posts from a few years back talking about Piastri a bit.

Took too long but I did find this. I think I had more but I’m too lazy to keep looking.

https://www.surlyhorns.com/board/topic/18134-formula-1-2021/?do=findComment&comment=3174319

All of these guys except Schwartzman have now raced in either F1 or Indycar. Not bad!

[Burt Macklin 19020]

Had a lot of shit going on so I didn’t watch the race until later, but oh my Lord, what an incredible race! That was an all time performance by Charles. I’ve seen people say Oscar could stayed out too, but I don’t think he would’ve had a chance. Oscar’s weakest point is his tire management, and it’s not like this strat was a given. Charles tyres were 5 laps older than Sainz and he beat Sainz by 17 seconds.  This was a great performance by one of the sport’s best drivers. 
 

It’s absolutely incredible to watch your favorite driver when in Monza for Ferrari. Grazie Ragazzi! Forza Ferrari! 
 

[dieucla98 2942]

8 hours ago, 52-80 said:

What the everlivingfuck happened to aston martin?

 

Alonso said he likes their trajectory. And Alonso is the best. So it must be true because you can't argue against Alonso. 

I do like Alonso, generally speaking, but he ain't winning shit in that seat.