Florida State can fuck off

[Blotto 23974]

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Sources told ESPN FSU officials/lawyers have gone to ACC headquarters at least a half-dozen times to examine the GOR.

They don't have a .pdf copy in Tallahassee? Is it a sacred document kept/guarded in ACC facilities?

Also saw this comment from Brett McMurphy earlier. We are privileged to roam this earth at the same time as Brett, allowing  us to consume his wisdom which he just hands out for free.

 

[JFKFC 4965]

25 minutes ago, Blotto said:

They don't have a .pdf copy in Tallahassee? Is it a sacred document kept/guarded in ACC facilities?

Also saw this comment from Brett McMurphy earlier. We are privileged to roam this earth at the same time as Brett, allowing  us to consume his wisdom which he just hands out for free.

 

Now I Am Become Death, the Destroyer of Conferences

 

[Longboard Horn 41319]

GOOD. FUCK EM 

 

[Blotto 23974]

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Columnist Dan Wetzel has reported that the SEC would have “more opposition than interest,” in adding FSU, among other ACC teams like Miami & Clemson. Who’s the opposition in the SEC? Specifically, Florida & South Carolina - nearby schools that would feel threatened by powerhouse regional schools joining the league

Lulz. Fuck off aggy

[immamac 44199]

So aggy pays 100M+ to continue to be irrlevant and fuck their entire recruiting class up and lose everyone they shelled out huge NIL for to get the highest rated class ever and FSU says hold my beer and wants to pay even more just to get dumpstered in an actually competitive conference? Hahahahahahahahahahah

[Longboard Horn 41319]

 

[Gidnik 3475]

live bor meeting

[JFKFC 4965]

https://twitter.com/ChrisVannini/status/1738216065786618072?s=19

[The Dog 44771]

[jimmyjazz 46976]

God, it would be perfect for UF to reject FSU but A&M had to remain with dicks in hand as we joined the conference and pushed them even further down in stature.

"Gentlemen's agreement".

 

 

 

Edited December 22, 2023 by jimmyjazz

[Blotto 23974]

https://www.tomahawknation.com/florida-state-football-fsu-seminoles-college-cfb-acc-norvell-team-roster-schedule-game/2023/12/21/24011773/realignment-acc-exit-conference-revenue-sec-big-10-12-pac-smu-cal-stanford-breakdown-grant-rights#:~:text=To leave the ACC fully,Grant of Rights in court.

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Ultimately, there have been some breadcrumbs left that private equity money would be used to fill in any financial gaps for FSU.

The exit fee would cost FSU in the neighborhood of $120 million, but the important aspect is that amount doesn’t factor in the cost of unwinding from the grant of rights.

Florida State is well down the road in securing private equity, if needed, for any financial implications from a move. Sources told ESPN that Sixth Street Partners would be a likely partner for the Seminoles in private equity.

This is exactly the direction university athletic departments need to be heading in, lulz. In the back pocket of private equity. 

Edited December 22, 2023 by Blotto

[thunderlounge 8318]

So FSU's board voted unanimously to sue the ACC, will be filing suit today, and not asking for any preliminary injunctions.

Allegedly not retaliation for the recent CFP snub, but further continuation of what they've been beating their chests about for the last year.

Seems to be an odd coincidence timing-wise, but whatever. LoLercoaster: engage.

[Buzzrock 15115]

 

[Murfdogg21 4548]

Thread title is appropriate. Nobody put a gun to their head to sign the GoR to ACC through 2036. Enjoy your next 13 years with Boston College, NC State, GT, and some basketball schools. Would bring more lolz if UNC and Miami were accepted by SEC. 

[C-Man 27685]

13 hours ago, The_Great_Hornsby said:

They were getting left out even if he was 100% healthy. 

Not a chance. The committee would've had no chance other than to put FSU in. Then it would come down to Bama and Texas and I *think* our win in Tuscaloosa would've been the tie-breaker. I'm thankful we didn't have to find out.

But, no, FSU can't blame the ACC for this exclusion. This is 100% a direct result of their starting QB Jordan Travis getting hurt for the season and having nothing but shit-tatstic backups behind him that could barely move the ball in their last two games.

[TreatyOak 17197]

35 minutes ago, thunderlounge said:

So FSU's board voted unanimously to sue the ACC, will be filing suit today, and not asking for any preliminary injunctions.

Allegedly not retaliation for the recent CFP snub, but further continuation of what they've been beating their chests about for the last year.

Seems to be an odd coincidence timing-wise, but whatever. LoLercoaster: engage.

I predict great success in getting out of their contract, just like Elon Musk was able to cancel his purchase of Twitter. 

[TreatyOak 17197]

Just now, C-Man said:

Not a chance. The committee would've had no chance other than to put FSU in. Then it would come down to Bama and Texas and I *think* our win in Tuscaloosa would've been the tie-breaker.

Yes, I expect nothing but fairness from ESPN, the SEC, the NCAA, CBS, etc. They never, ever would have chosen Bama over a more deserving team. 

[MirrOlure 15185]

 

Shouldn’t they have examined the GOR….oh, I don’t know….BEFORE THEY APPROVED AND SIGNED IT? And maybe keep a copy in your files?

[C-Man 27685]

13 hours ago, JBJ said:

Washington would have been left out.

LOL, no.

[thunderlounge 8318]

26 minutes ago, MirrOlure said:

Shouldn’t they have examined the GOR….oh, I don’t know….BEFORE THEY APPROVED AND SIGNED IT? And maybe keep a copy in your files?

 

See, there's a problem with that line of thinking. The only copy is locked away up at the ACC. No copies outside of that facility exist. You can't view it anywhere other than at their offices, while they watch you. No video/photography allowed, and no direct quotes allowed to be written down. And that is some fucked up shit on its own, without all the shitstorm going on now.

Needless to say, FSU's lawdogs have been up there a lot to review that document, all under the careful eye of the ACC.

 

That's not meant as a "pro" FSU comment, simply laying out the information on what someone would have to go through to examine the contract.

[JFKFC 4965]

58 minutes ago, MirrOlure said:

Shouldn’t they have examined the GOR….oh, I don’t know….BEFORE THEY APPROVED AND SIGNED IT? 

FSU signed the GOR.

FSU approved the ridiculous 4-team playoff with a committee populated by retards. 

FSU approved the ACC commissioner who blocked a 12-team playoff from happening this year. 

Still, they blame everyone else.

[jimmyjazz 46976]

1 minute ago, JFKFC said:

FSU signed the GOR.

FSU approved the ridiculous 4-team playoff with a committee populated by retards. 

FSU approved the ACC commissioner who blocked a 12-team playoff from happening this year. 

Still, they blame everyone else.

Apparently, "Florida Aggie" isn't a stretch.

[Blotto 23974]

33 minutes ago, thunderlounge said:

See, there's a problem with that line of thinking. The only copy is locked away up at the ACC. No copies outside of that facility exist. You can't view it anywhere other than at their offices, while they watch you. No video/photography allowed, and no direct quotes allowed to be written down. And that is some fucked up shit on its own, without all the shitstorm going on now.

Needless to say, FSU's lawdogs have been up there a lot to review that document, all under the careful eye of the ACC.

 

That's not meant as a "pro" FSU comment, simply laying out the information on what someone would have to go through to examine the contract.

Thats some crazy shit. I joked upthread about not having a .pdf copy of the agreement, but apparently that is not allowed. Who the fuck agreed to be bound by a contract with a $500M exit fee and without being able to have a copy of your own. Or more accurately, how the fuck do you convince every school to sign that fucking thing. The insanity of college athletics never ceases to amaze me.

Edited December 22, 2023 by Blotto

[MirrOlure 15185]

37 minutes ago, thunderlounge said:

 

See, there's a problem with that line of thinking. The only copy is locked away up at the ACC. No copies outside of that facility exist. You can't view it anywhere other than at their offices, while they watch you. No video/photography allowed, and no direct quotes allowed to be written down. And that is some fucked up shit on its own, without all the shitstorm going on now.

Needless to say, FSU's lawdogs have been up there a lot to review that document, all under the careful eye of the ACC.

 

That's not meant as a "pro" FSU comment, simply laying out the information on what someone would have to go through to examine the contract.

I can't tell if you're yanking my chain here....so some lawyer(s) let their client sign and send out an agreement without retaining a copy?  That's ludicrous.

 

[Tex Long 4616]

9 minutes ago, Blotto said:

... The insanity of college athletics never ceases to amaze me.

You've spelt "stupidity" incorrectly.

[Hefeweizen 5416]

These colleges all seem like a bunch of numbnuts at contracts.  Unbelievable that UT and OU are the ones who have their shit together.  I don’t think we’re far from a super league at this point.

[closetojumping 65246]

9 minutes ago, MirrOlure said:

I can't tell if you're yanking my chain here....so some lawyer(s) let their client sign and send out an agreement without retaining a copy?  That's ludicrous.

 

He is correct. They talk about the absurdity of the ACC GOR deal and how the ACC manages access to it all of the time on XM84. There are so many people that should be fired for what they did with that thing and ESPN.

[Blotto 23974]

I have no idea if this accurate, but it would make more sense to me

https://www.cougarboard.com/board/message.html?id=32248650

 

[The_Great_Hornsby 3586]

1 hour ago, C-Man said:

Not a chance. The committee would've had no chance other than to put FSU in. Then it would come down to Bama and Texas and I *think* our win in Tuscaloosa would've been the tie-breaker. I'm thankful we didn't have to find out.

But, no, FSU can't blame the ACC for this exclusion. This is 100% a direct result of their starting QB Jordan Travis getting hurt for the season and having nothing but shit-tatstic backups behind him that could barely move the ball in their last two games.

Watch this and get back to me. I think your opinion will change. This was pre-Travis injury.

[Texzilla58 4778]

GOOD. FUCK EM 
 

I would trade mizzou for fsu in the sec. Or Miama. Or okie light. Or about anyone.

[Dnaguy 12572]

53 minutes ago, thunderlounge said:

 

See, there's a problem with that line of thinking. The only copy is locked away up at the ACC. No copies outside of that facility exist. You can't view it anywhere other than at their offices, while they watch you. No video/photography allowed, and no direct quotes allowed to be written down. And that is some fucked up shit on its own, without all the shitstorm going on now.

Needless to say, FSU's lawdogs have been up there a lot to review that document, all under the careful eye of the ACC.

 

That's not meant as a "pro" FSU comment, simply laying out the information on what someone would have to go through to examine the contract.

 

 

 

National Tressure 3: Seminole Discharge

 

 

 

[Hank Kingsley 21598]

[DixonHur 11941]

Ok, I'm officially confused.  Why is FSU suing the ACC?

Being in the ACC didn't keep them out of the CFP Playoffs.  Losing their star QB and looking like hammered dog shit against a bad Louisville team did.

[thunderlounge 8318]

1 hour ago, Blotto said:

I have no idea if this accurate, but it would make more sense to me

https://www.cougarboard.com/board/message.html?id=32248650

 

 

It is not. And why would byu have a fucking clue? Let alone a clue about the ACC.

[Blotto 23974]

14 minutes ago, thunderlounge said:

 

It is not. And why would byu have a fucking clue? Let alone a clue about the ACC.

So what are you claiming is  inaccurate? He references an article in The Athletic that links to the 2013 GOR document from the ACC: https://cdn.theathletic.com/app/uploads/2022/07/01185531/ACC-Grant-of-Rights-1.pdf

Here's the 2016 amendment:  https://theosceola.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/07/2016-AMENDMENT-ACC-Grant-of-Rights-Agmt.pdf

 

Edited December 22, 2023 by Blotto

[The Dog 44771]

While FSU sues and whines UGA is preparing to smash them:

 

[thunderlounge 8318]

7 minutes ago, Blotto said:

So what are you claiming is  inaccurate? He references an article in The Athletic that links to the 2013 GOR document from the ACC: https://cdn.theathletic.com/app/uploads/2022/07/01185531/ACC-Grant-of-Rights-1.pdf

Here's the 2016 amendment:  https://theosceola.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/07/2016-AMENDMENT-ACC-Grant-of-Rights-Agmt.pdf

 

 

All I'm "claiming" is that per the FSU legal reps this morning, there exists no copies of the actual signed contract(s) in question. The above linked documents were even referenced as not being 100% accurate as to the actual documents which were signed.

You may dispute that, and frankly it doesn't matter. I'm not personally claiming anything, simply passing along the information I've followed on this.

Well, that and byu sucks, obviously.

[immamac 44199]

5 minutes ago, The Dog said:

While FSU sues and whines UGA is preparing to smash them:

 

Hard to get injured against competition that is this inferior except a freak accident.

[C-Man 27685]

1 hour ago, The_Great_Hornsby said:

Watch this and get back to me. I think your opinion will change. This was pre-Travis injury.

Nope. That was just 3:26 of TV stupidity. Pat McAfee said he'd put both 1-loss Bama and Georgia in over 1-loss Texas and undefeated FSU (with Travis, apparently). That's just abject stupidity. There's no way to prove either your opinion or mine but there's really been no precedent for what you think would've happened. It was all about Travis' injury. The committee said the head-to-head (Texas over Bama) was always going to matter. It said it before the final voting and it said it after. The Texas win over Bama mattered. It's 100% what got us in, just as much as the Travis injury kept the Seminoles out. No undefeated P5 conference champ had ever been excluded until FSU. And if not for a Travis injury, it wouldn't have happened this year either.

[ButtFumble 5246]

 

already taking shots at SMU and Cal and Stanford

I tried telling people on other forums that adding those teams even with taking a lot of their media money (and letting them collect other money) would be a money loser in the end....looks like FSU listened a bit too late

[TreatyOak 17197]

I love college sports. The drama never ceases, 

 

So in their lawsuit against the ACC, Florida State claims they have no choice but to sue.

"I believe this board has been left 'no choice' but to challenge the legitimacy of the ACC grant of rights and its severe withdrawal penalties," board chair Peter Collins said. "None of us like being in this position. However, I believe that we have exhausted all possible remedies within the conference and we must do what we believe is best for Florida State not only in the short term but in the long term."

Hmmm, didn't someone claim in a recent interview that they also felt they had no choice but to cheat to get their daughter into USC?

Jailed Hollywood actress Felicity Huffman said she had 'no choice' but to bribe college officials to get her daughter into school

Edited December 23, 2023 by TreatyOak

[HornOnTheBayou 9056]

We now have exclusive footage from the ACC security cameras of the FSU lawyers trying to view the contract.

[Dewey 3325]

I honestly believe that most schools and conferences are dumb enough to buy a bridge or beachfront property in the fucking desert. 

And FSU can fuck off

[sith_horn 2486]

11 hours ago, jimmyjazz said:

God, it would be perfect for UF to reject FSU but A&M had to remain with dicks in hand as we joined the conference and pushed them even further down in stature.

"Gentlemen's agreement".

                  

[ShaggyBevo RIP 3873]

Thats some crazy shit. I joked upthread about not having a .pdf copy of the agreement, but apparently that is not allowed. Who the fuck agreed to be bound by a contract with a $500M exit fee and without being able to have a copy of your own. Or more accurately, how the fuck do you convince every school to sign that fucking thing. The insanity of college athletics never ceases to amaze me.

I’m guessing Jimmy Sexton represented the ACC.

[TreatyOak 17197]

Please, please, please, God, let Florida block FSU from joining the conference.

 

 

[gatormarc 937]

[chainsaw 10244]

1 hour ago, TreatyOak said:

Please, please, please, God, let Florida block FSU from joining the conference.

 

 

Florida draws a lot of water in this conference.

You don't draw shit, aggy.

[Napoleon 8802]

10 hours ago, Tex Long said:

You've spelt "stupidity" incorrectly.

“Spelt”, not “spelled”?

Are you British of something?

You put “Tex” in your name to throw people off your scent, ehhhh Buster?

Now you wait just a cotton-pickin’-minute here, ya’ see!

[Blotto 23974]

53 minutes ago, Napoleon said:

Are you British of something?

You put “Tex” in your name to throw people off your scent, ehhhh Buster Alistair ?

 

Edited December 23, 2023 by Blotto