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On 4/16/2024 at 3:15 PM, Damor said:

The "Breakers Roar" scene was one of the most absolutely stunning things I have seen in a long time.

Just saw it and came here to post this. Fuck yeah it was.

Great movie. Politically, I think people will see what they want to see in this movie. Objectively, let’s not do this fucking shit, okay?

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I saw this recently and have a mixed opinion. It’s a good movie for sure, but something seemed off. I think it was too slow in parts by far. Then sudden intensity and back again.

The subject matter was definitely disturbing. Dunst did a great job as an exhausted person experiencing horror. The final battle scene was awesome, far fetched, and also disjointed from the rest of the movie.

It’s a tough movie to wrap up in a bow. The Jessie Plemmons bit was the best part and most disturbing. 

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Agree with all of that. It seemed like it didn’t know what it was trying to be. A war movie, a movie about war journalists or a coming of age movie. Some of it I liked a lot and some of it I thought bordered on cheesy and boring. 

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21 hours ago, Mach 1 said:

I saw this recently and have a mixed opinion. It’s a good movie for sure, but something seemed off. I think it was too slow in parts by far. Then sudden intensity and back again.

The subject matter was definitely disturbing. Dunst did a great job as an exhausted person experiencing horror. The final battle scene was awesome, far fetched, and also disjointed from the rest of the movie.

It’s a tough movie to wrap up in a bow. The Jessie Plemmons bit was the best part and most disturbing. 

Just got back after seeing it.  There were audible gasps in the theater about the Plemmons character.  However, shit like that happened in the Civil War here and others around the world.  Towards the end, it turns into a lawless wasteland and people start doing what they want regardless of the depravity. 

I'd also echo what others said.  The movie does a good job of straddling the sides to where you're really not sure who is who but that's the point.  You're left to fill in the blanks.  It's also a love letter and a nod to war correspondents.  They're not there to parse the issues.  They're there to report the story and get the pictures and that's what the main characters are doing here.  There's never any talk while driving about the drivers of the civil war in question.  It's just how to do their job.

The combat scenes were on point.  

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On 4/27/2024 at 8:39 PM, Mach 1 said:

I saw this recently and have a mixed opinion. It’s a good movie for sure, but something seemed off. I think it was too slow in parts by far. Then sudden intensity and back again.

The subject matter was definitely disturbing. Dunst did a great job as an exhausted person experiencing horror. The final battle scene was awesome, far fetched, and also disjointed from the rest of the movie.

It’s a tough movie to wrap up in a bow. The Jessie Plemmons bit was the best part and most disturbing. 

The back and forth between slow parts and sudden intensity added to the realism for me. They weren't depicting a pitched battle, raging along a defined front. They were showing us a very messy war that consists of random skirmishes scattered about and pockets of peace as well as pockets of sheer terror.

I liked the way they showed all of that.

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On 4/21/2024 at 11:05 PM, CooterBrown said:


It had a ton to say about war photographers. I think most viewers may not realize it’s a movie about that and not war.

This is my beef with it. Although, I'll say that I actually enjoyed the movie, I just wasn't satisfied with the story/writing/lukewarm message.

 

I think it was really well made and the sounds/shots (visuals)/acting were all great. Kirsten Dunst was great, Wagner Moura is a G. I just don't like that they teased "Civil War" in the leadup, to deliver a movie that had a lot to say about "war" as a concept, and nothing about the "Civil" part that was the teaser to get people into the seats. War takes a toll on the humanity of everyone around? Yes, I think we've been shown that in much better ways with more deeper and thorough storytelling. I've seen many of the greats, and there have been more than a handful over the decades. Did we just need a reminder that in-fighting will also lead to a lack of humanity? I can just log on to twitter to see that. 

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Just got back from the theater and wow. My son and I both thought it was amazing, but I don't think the trailer gives you a good idea of the movie itself, which is much more bleak.

My degree is in journalism and this movie had me thinking about the photo from the Sudan in 1993 of the child and the vulture. The photographer, Kevin Carter, won the Pulitzer for it and took his own life a few months later. It re-ignited the whole debate about objectivity in journalism and what the role of journalists is in volatile situations. Are they just there to document and record, or do they step in and try to help? My stance has always been that we are humans first and that journalism, as necessary as it is to a free state, is a job and comes second to helping people. I will grant that that is an idealistic position and I've never been a war reporter. I'll spoiler the next part.

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Civil War does a great job of straddling that line, but at the end I think it lands on the side of "humans first", with Lee sacrificing herself to save Jessie. Jessie will turn into Lee (but will die younger), but by the time she's Lee's age, there won't be any remnants of when the 50 states were united. It'll be full-on dystopia. And by that point, everyone will be in survival mode and modern ethics will be a relic. There'll be no need to debate this topic because it will be irrelevant.

War renders all of this irrelevant. We all return to our base elements when we're knocked down several rungs in Maslow's hierarchy. Kirsten Dunst is fantastic at portraying someone who was raised in a world vastly different than the one she ends up living in. I hope she gets some recognition come awards season.

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Wife and I saw this and it was damn good. Yeah, it's propaganda and all that shit, but I love that they didn't pick a side and now people are up in arms about it instead of understanding it's shot through the eyes of the reporters. 

Jesse Plemmons character was unsettling, which was a major bonus. 

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16 minutes ago, Spider2YBanana said:

Wife and I saw this and it was damn good. Yeah, it's propaganda and all that shit, but I love that they didn't pick a side and now people are up in arms about it instead of understanding it's shot through the eyes of the reporters. 

Jesse Plemmons character was unsettling, which was a major bonus. 

He's in it for all of 15 minutes and steals the show. As is typical for Jesse Plemons.

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On 4/29/2024 at 11:49 AM, South Austin said:

One of the more unbelievable parts:

 

Rather good. Glad I finally saw it. I would have never based on the early trailers. But as stated it's not a war movie. Bullets easily go through walls and shit. Shell out some real money for authentic war machinery too, but maybe the military did not view this movie as advertising.

Like SouthAustin mentioned, there were more realistic ways for the exact scenario to play out that was would have made more sense. Many subtle things and unfinished dialogue that could have really put this movie over the top, especially in the finale. No reason for the penultimate death to be so case closed. Unknown would have been just fine.

But yeah, would recommend, but Violent.

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8 hours ago, TrashMaster G said:

He will always be Landry Clarke to me.

Or Lance.

Even though it was brief, he was great as a psychopath in Breaking Bad. His range is incredible. 

 

And yeah, he'll always be Landy Clark. That show was pretty damn good. 

Just remembered he was hella great in Game Night. 

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Apparently they're making a movie about Lee soon? I'll have to find the article I saw it on. It may go more into detail about her life and add more context as to what started the Civil War between all of the factions and the authoritarian government/president played by the always great Nick Offerman (I have no idea if he'll make another cameo, which I highly doubt). 

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On 5/3/2024 at 9:46 PM, austingirl said:

Just got back from the theater and wow. My son and I both thought it was amazing, but I don't think the trailer gives you a good idea of the movie itself, which is much more bleak.

My degree is in journalism and this movie had me thinking about the photo from the Sudan in 1993 of the child and the vulture. The photographer, Kevin Carter, won the Pulitzer for it and took his own life a few months later. It re-ignited the whole debate about objectivity in journalism and what the role of journalists is in volatile situations. Are they just there to document and record, or do they step in and try to help? My stance has always been that we are humans first and that journalism, as necessary as it is to a free state, is a job and comes second to helping people. I will grant that that is an idealistic position and I've never been a war reporter. I'll spoiler the next part.

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Civil War does a great job of straddling that line, but at the end I think it lands on the side of "humans first", with Lee sacrificing herself to save Jessie. Jessie will turn into Lee (but will die younger), but by the time she's Lee's age, there won't be any remnants of when the 50 states were united. It'll be full-on dystopia. And by that point, everyone will be in survival mode and modern ethics will be a relic. There'll be no need to debate this topic because it will be irrelevant.

War renders all of this irrelevant. We all return to our base elements when we're knocked down several rungs in Maslow's hierarchy. Kirsten Dunst is fantastic at portraying someone who was raised in a world vastly different than the one she ends up living in. I hope she gets some recognition come awards season.

Photojournalism major here as well and had the same thought about the child and vulture photo.  

Like others, it was not what I expected, but I really enjoyed it.  I'm glad they didn't get into the politics driving all this and I liked the idea that California and Texas, despite vastly different political leanings would unit to fight a facist regime.

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They announced yesterday that it will start streaming on May 24th. 

And while I can't stand a crowded theater, when I saw it yesterday, there were only three other people there.  It was practically like having my own theater!

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2 minutes ago, Teebox said:

The sound is really excellent in this film.   The sound of the AR-style rifles alone were noticeably accurate, unlike most movies.

Agree with this. It was actually a bit unsettling at times how real it sounded. 

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2 hours ago, Teebox said:

The sound is really excellent in this film.   The sound of the AR-style rifles alone were noticeably accurate, unlike most movies.

Everything about the fight scenes was excellent.  Garland needs to make a war movie.  Another war movie I mean.

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Really enjoyed it, though watching before bed wasn’t the best idea.

I almost feel like it was mismarketed, or they were seeking an entirely different audience with the trailers. But the film itself was spectacular… still a bit confused on who was fighting who at that points, but it seems that was the goal, especially given the sniper scene.

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On 6/4/2024 at 7:25 PM, Party_Taco said:

Really enjoyed it, though watching before bed wasn’t the best idea.

I almost feel like it was mismarketed, or they were seeking an entirely different audience with the trailers. But the film itself was spectacular… still a bit confused on who was fighting who at that points, but it seems that was the goal, especially given the sniper scene.

Whisper: "Would you guys shut the fuck up"

*gunshot* no movement.

"I've got good news."

 

Great flick.  I was trying to put my finger on what it reminded me of, and weirdly, Blood Diamond came to mind.  Not exactly sure why.  The Killing Fields may be another.  

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Watched it over the weekend. I thought it was great. The picture that slowly develops behind the end credit was genuinely chilling.

I often think Kirsten Dunst is an underappreciated actress. It took me a moment to recognize her partner as the guy who played Pablo Escobar in Narcos.

I think the movie turns on the observation that the death of a reporter about midway through the movie turned out to be, as Pable Escobar actor says, for nothing. It seems to resonate with Dunst. Her actions after that reflect, IMHO, her changing perspective on what she does.

Surprisingly good even with fairly high expectations.

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I haven't watched the whole thing yet, but I think the typical intra-dystopian movie about America has been done every which way.  As such, I thought from kinda the perspective of the reporters/press was at least original and well acted.  the other thing is that it very subtly hints, that the rest of the country either one side, the other, or neutral gives them a wide berth/protection because they all realize that to control the narrative is to control the people.  

It was one thing to have military press in WWII or Vietnam to broadcast back home what the brave men & women were doing to free oppressed peoples.  Around Vietnam, you start really seeing war correspondents from MSM outlets ramp up, and they begin to tell all sides of the story.  But again, people were more apt to absorb the information as credible but still side with the U.S. Military because "home team" and all.  But I thought this movie is more clever in that all the press can be manipulated to present to certain factions just within our country depending on what needs to get out and what needs to stay quiet.  My two cents. 

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This movie is terrible.  The writing is awful.  The story is unbelievable (not the idea of the US falling into Civil war, the more detailed plot points like Dunst and the other dude allowing the old man and kid to join them last minute as they go do some super dangerous shit).  The melodrama of journalists as the end all be all was over the top.

The sound was excellent.

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On 8/9/2024 at 2:10 PM, Snake Diggity said:

Also, intentionally making Dunst look more middle aged and hiding the warlocks for almost the entire movie was stupid.

She's... 42. How would you expect a 42 year old war photographer to look? 

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Anyway, I liked this movie but some of it just didn't hit for me. Unpopular opinion I know, but the soundtrack didn't fit at all. Overall all worth watching though, and it probably deserves a re-watch from me. 

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Watched it last night. I liked it. I didn't love it. The war parts were done really well. Jesse Plemons continues to shine in creepy roles. I believe I read that the actor intended for that role dropped out and he just popped in because his wife asked him to. The visuals were spectacular.

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Watching this on flight today. Is the Jessie girl supposed to he epitome of self centered, narcissistic “main character” syndrome Gen Z?

jeez what an annoying dipshit. Gets multiple people killed, cries half the time and is basically just a complete fucknut. 
 

Movie was ok, not nearly as deep as I thought would be, but the Jessie character was a beating. 

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On 8/11/2024 at 8:44 AM, Snake Diggity said:

42 year old war photographers can be hot as fuck.  Especially if they are Kirsten Dunst.  They had her out there like Charlize in Monster.

Here's a picture of the real life war photog that the character is loosely based on.

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Stone cold fox.

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