UT vs LSU - Halal Guys Showcase (Toyota Center) @ 11am ESPN2

[UnhappilyMarried 816]

Disu took almost no time to shake the rust off the floater

[ztejas 43455]

If you're going to pass up a wide open 3 to run clock you have to at least get a shot off. Christ.

[CTC2 2797]

Weaver plays with maximum effort all the time. 

[Dahobbs 17543]

Wtf hunter...

[Mo Horn 8848]

Hunter has to make that on that drive

[Hookem2147 21320]

LSU is just lowering the shoulder and running into the lane now because they know the whistle blows every time.

[ClubWhatever 12144]

Such a stupid play   Just bring the ball out  

[Rickylovesweed 14317]

Hunter should have just dunked that. Had a wide open lane. 

[VirginiaLonghorn 4772]

Just now, Mo Horn said:

Hunter has to make that on that drive

No … the clock is now the primary opponent 

[LTtxfan 49196]

Need a few more buckets to put this game away Texas... use at least 20 seconds off the shot clock each possession too.  🙄

[Mo Horn 8848]

Just now, VirginiaLonghorn said:

No … the clock is now the primary opponent 

Agreed, but have no issues taking a shot when you have a good chance to score, and that was one. 

[Firemans4Horn 18052]

Weaver needs more minutes 

[Rickylovesweed 14317]

The obvious should be even more obvious after this game. 

Less Horton and much more Weaver. 

[Firemans4Horn 18052]

Nice take by Abmas

[hobbes2702 13037]

Glad that we look like we are going to win this but giving up 80 to this LSU team is concerning 

[ClubWhatever 12144]

Just now, Firemans4Horn said:

Weaver needs more minutes 

Definitely earned them

[Pam Cummings 9644]

Weaver has been massive

[Rickylovesweed 14317]

Take away the Horton minutes to start the 2nd half and this would have been a 25+ point win. 

You can't keep playing him. 

[ClubWhatever 12144]

Just now, hobbes2702 said:

Glad that we look like we are going to win this but giving up 80 to this LSU team is concerning 

Just too short on the perimeter  

[Dahobbs 17543]

1 minute ago, hobbes2702 said:

Glad that we look like we are going to win this but giving up 80 to this LSU team is concerning 

About 20 of that is Horton. 

[LonghornSean 3998]

Ugly wins will be perfectly fine in conference play, but we’ve had a number of UGLY wins so far this year.

[Firemans4Horn 18052]

10-20 from 3

20-23 from the line

 

winning most basketball games with those stats

[Rickylovesweed 14317]

4 minutes ago, hobbes2702 said:

Glad that we look like we are going to win this but giving up 80 to this LSU team is concerning 

It's concerning but not all that surprising. 

Cook is a legit scorer. It's why I was worried about playing this LSU team. They're a completely different team with Cook as a scorer/playmaker. Not good but much better than the stats/record indicate. 

[Stringer 1439]

Man, quite the fall for Will Baker. Sucks that he never seemed to put it together.

[Hookem2147 21320]

1 minute ago, hobbes2702 said:

Glad that we look like we are going to win this but giving up 80 to this LSU team is concerning 

We need to be smarter with our tempo. It looked great in the first half when everything was falling but we should have dialed it back once it was obvious things weren’t going the same way.

LSU also shot a billion second half free throws.

[ztejas 43455]

1 minute ago, LonghornSean said:

Ugly wins will be perfectly fine in conference play, but we’ve had a number of UGLY wins so far this year.

How is this an ugly win? 

[Mo Horn 8848]

1 minute ago, LonghornSean said:

Ugly wins will be perfectly fine in conference play, but we’ve had a number of UGLY wins so far this year.

Taking after the football team. As long as as win, I'm good. 

[Firemans4Horn 18052]

Draw up the 12 point play coach. 

[BigTEAMLittleme 213]

1 minute ago, Firemans4Horn said:

10-20 from 3

20-23 from the line

 

winning most basketball games with those stats

Add tighter D inside and fewer turnovers and that’s blowout city most games.

[Hookem2147 21320]

3 minutes ago, LonghornSean said:

Ugly wins will be perfectly fine in conference play, but we’ve had a number of UGLY wins so far this year.

We’ve won one game by less than double digits.

[Rickylovesweed 14317]

3 minutes ago, BigTEAMLittleme said:

Add tighter D inside and fewer turnovers and that’s blowout city most games.

This was a blowout if they simply didn't play Horton. 

I bet he was like -10 or worse in this one. It would have been a 25+ point win if they just kept him on the bench. 

[ClubWhatever 12144]

5 minutes ago, Stringer said:

Man, quite the fall for Will Baker. Sucks that he never seemed to put it together.

He can't shoot.  Stone hands  

[Rockethorn1978 6079]

Just think if we had an offense we would have scored 135. 96 is not our standard. 

[HtownHorn 14685]

Lots of beta male aggy in the Toyota center.

[Stringer 1439]

Seems like Weaver is much like Cunningham in that they aren’t stars but are winning players. Obviously a much more toolsy version. Having two of those guys on the team will serve us well in when conference play really gets going.

[ClubWhatever 12144]

2 minutes ago, Rickylovesweed said:

This was a blowout if they simply didn't play Horton. 

I bet he was like -10 or worse in this one. It would have been a 25+ point win if they just kept him on the bench. 

He didn't suddenly become a terrible defender.  Makes you question the staff's scouting ability   

[LonghornSean 3998]

4 minutes ago, ztejas said:

How is this an ugly win? 

 

1 minute ago, Hookem2147 said:

We’ve won one game by less than double digits.

Fine. Half of this game was ugly so I’m picking nits.

But we’ve seen some rough stretches of basketball on both offense and defense. A double digit win isn’t much to complain about but the teams we’ve beaten aren’t great.

This was a very nice game from Weaver and Disu getting back in the flow is huge.

Big 12 play is gonna be a lot tougher though.

[Hookem2147 21320]

Just now, LonghornSean said:

 

Fine. Half of this game was ugly so I’m picking nits.

But we’ve seen some rough stretches of basketball on both offense and defense. A double digit win isn’t much to complain about but the teams we’ve beaten aren’t great.

This was a very nice game from Weaver and Disu getting back in the flow is huge.

Big 12 play is gonna be a lot tougher though.

I have to remind myself of this every game, but the college basketball product as a whole isn’t pretty. 98% of teams are going to have bad stretches throughout a 40 minute game.

[Rickylovesweed 14317]

3 minutes ago, ClubWhatever said:

He didn't suddenly become a terrible defender.  Makes you question the staff's scouting ability   

I don't think it's bad scouting. 

Horton can shoot. He's fine playing limited minutes off the bench as a shooter/scorer. He just doesn't need to be playing big minutes. Needs to play like 10 minutes a game. 

[Rickylovesweed 14317]

This game should highlight what needs to happen moving forward. 

1) Disu +16 and Shedrick -1. Shedrick is a good player but reality is Disu is the much better player. 

2) Horton -5 and Weaver +5. 

Maximizing the roster means playing your best players more minutes. Less Horton and less Shedrick with Disu back. 

Edited December 16, 2023 by Rickylovesweed

[ClubWhatever 12144]

2 minutes ago, Rickylovesweed said:

I don't think it's bad scouting. 

Horton can shoot. He's fine playing limited minutes off the bench as a shooter/scorer. He just doesn't need to be playing big minutes. Needs to play like 10 minutes a game. 

He played 13 minutes  

[Catdaddyhorn 3444]

17 minutes ago, Stringer said:

Man, quite the fall for Will Baker. Sucks that he never seemed to put it together.

He's their leading scorer. 

[Rickylovesweed 14317]

4 minutes ago, ClubWhatever said:

He played 13 minutes  

Yeah and he should be playing fewer than that. 

Also we should never be running 3 guard lineups like we did in the 2nd half with Horton, Abmas, and Hunter. Ambas is a below average defender and Horton is a terrible defender. That combo is asking for defensive issues just like the first 10 minutes of the 2nd half. 

 

 

[Hookem2147 21320]

Pretty good looking box score. It’s encouraging to see the improvement from Mitchell. He is having a good year.

[ClubWhatever 12144]

1 minute ago, Rickylovesweed said:

Yeah and he should be playing fewer than that. 

Also we should never be running 3 guard lineups like we did in the 2nd half with Horton, Abmas, and Hunter. Ambas is a below average defender and Horton is a terrible defender. That combo is asking for defensive issues just like the first 10 minutes of the 2nd half. 

 

 

A grad transfer that you can't afford to play more than 10 minutes is a bad take.   

[Stringer 1439]

He's their leading scorer. 

Yeah, I saw his stats seemed fine for a college starter. He just seemed like the same guy today, lost and a step behind, so I was a little confused. I just assume he got his stats this year beating up on early non-conference games.

[Catdaddyhorn 3444]

11 minutes ago, ClubWhatever said:

He didn't suddenly become a terrible defender.  Makes you question the staff's scouting ability   

The problem is who we play Horton alongside of. We cant have him, Abmas, and Hunter on the court at the same time. That just makes your backcourt absolutely atrocious defensively. Hunter isn't a bad defender, but often times when playing alongside Abmas and Horton he's guarding the biggest wing and that diminishes his defensive strengths. 

[Catdaddyhorn 3444]

Not only should Weaver get Horton's minutes, but if Horton is out there then Weaver has to be out there as well. 

[Rickylovesweed 14317]

3 minutes ago, ClubWhatever said:

A grad transfer that you can't afford to play more than 10 minutes is a bad take.   

I don't think it's a bad take. 

You added Abmas as a scorer, you added Weaver as the defender/rebounder, you added Horton as a 3 point shooter. It's not a bad take as much as it's bad roster management so far. Stop playing the two bad defensive guards together and utilize Weaver. 

A guy that can hit a couple 3s off the bench still has plenty of value if utilized correctly. 

[Catdaddyhorn 3444]

4 minutes ago, Stringer said:

Yeah, I saw his stats seemed fine for a college starter. He just seemed like the same guy today, lost and a step behind, so I was a little confused. I just assume he got his stats this year beating up on early non-conference games.

Oh he definitely did, but his early foul trouble really exacerbated things for him. Honestly we should've been a team he matched up well against. We're not overly athletic in the frontcourt outside of Mitchel, so he shouldve been able to stay on the court. He's a player who needs tremendous guard play to bring out the best him, something LSU has none of.