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10 minutes ago, Ravishing Rick said:

Well, to counter this, a lot of people don't recognize Westlake's underrated diversity - they're roughly 50% female.

There's soccer moms, yoga moms, pilates moms, spin moms. It's truly a melting pot

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2 hours ago, TreatyOak said:

So Westlake, with 2700 students, plays North Shore (4,600 students) or if we somehow win, maybe Duncanville (4,500). Obviously, Westlake has financial resources that neither school can match, but money can only get you so far when it comes to actual numbers. The system isn't working for us. 

I thought this was a bit, but you keep going with it. Westlake just needs to recruit better or open a second high school to dominate 5ADII.

On the serious side, I do think that some of these schools with gargantuan enrollments are not serving their districts well. When you have 4000 students to max your football potential, you take opportunities away from the other 95% of the student body. I'd rather my kids go to high school in a district with 3x 1400 schools, or even 2x 2100, instead of a 4200.

The UIL should find a way to incentivize smaller enrollments for the benefit of all Texans. Maybe the top 24 enrollments are now 7A, idk.

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26 minutes ago, Masshole Horn said:

I thought this was a bit, but you keep going with it. Westlake just needs to recruit better or open a second high school to dominate 5ADII.

On the serious side, I do think that some of these schools with gargantuan enrollments are not serving their districts well. When you have 4000 students to max your football potential, you take opportunities away from the other 95% of the student body. I'd rather my kids go to high school in a district with 3x 1400 schools, or even 2x 2100, instead of a 4200.

The UIL should find a way to incentivize smaller enrollments for the benefit of all Texans. Maybe the top 24 enrollments are now 7A, idk.

agreed, would be good for everyone involved. You now have teams in districts where all their opponents have 1/2 their enrollment. Those games aren't fun for anyone on either side.  They shouldn't be in a district where their enrollment is more than double everyone else. Winning shouldn't be the primary goal for any high school sports program.

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1 hour ago, Masshole Horn said:

I thought this was a bit, but you keep going with it. Westlake just needs to recruit better or open a second high school to dominate 5ADII.

On the serious side, I do think that some of these schools with gargantuan enrollments are not serving their districts well. When you have 4000 students to max your football potential, you take opportunities away from the other 95% of the student body. I'd rather my kids go to high school in a district with 3x 1400 schools, or even 2x 2100, instead of a 4200.

The UIL should find a way to incentivize smaller enrollments for the benefit of all Texans. Maybe the top 24 enrollments are now 7A, idk.

Agreed. 4,000-6,000 (Plano high schools) is crazy.  7,000+ students at Allen HS is insanity, although they have a separate campus for freshman. 

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On 12/7/2024 at 6:10 PM, Helobious said:

Desoto should’nt have opted up to 6A

So what is your rationale to Desoto being the reigning back to back State Champions and making the qtr finals this year with that same enrollment?

Because you saying they’re non competitive doesn’t compute.  If teams aren’t out here to do well in the playoffs, then what’s the goal?

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We already did this bullshit drill with 6A and using 2 divisions. 
 

Some a y’all have the attitude’ Let’s fucking break shit…just because’

The one rule that needs to change is if you transfer schools, you lose a year of eligibility. Classification size is not a problem in Texas.  recruiting is.

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22 minutes ago, SameSame said:

So what is your rationale to Desoto being the reigning back to back State Champions and making the qtr finals this year with that same enrollment?

Because you saying they’re non competitive doesn’t compute.  If teams aren’t out here to do well in the playoffs, then what’s the goal?

I'm pretty sure they don't have the same enrollment and that's why they were going to be 5ad1 but they opted up and UIL granted them that this year.

 

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Since Covid they've lost 800 in enrollment

 

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10 hours ago, Helobious said:

I still have Westlake winning this weekend. NS is not as good as last year and still has the same uncreative attack on offense. I have a hard time imagining that working on Westlake for 3 straight years. I do think Duncanville wins it all though. 

I just called my bookie and put $10k on North Shore.  Thanks Helo!

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12 hours ago, TreatyOak said:

So Westlake, with 2700 students, plays North Shore (4,600 students) or if we somehow win, maybe Duncanville (4,500). Obviously, Westlake has financial resources that neither school can match, but money can only get you so far when it comes to actual numbers. The system isn't working for us. 

Westlake is only in the D1 bracket because Bowie somehow managed to lose late in the season against Austin High.   Would Westlake have been favored in D2 vs Summer Creek?  Would they have gotten past Vandegrift in quarters?  Probably better chances than against the remaining D1 schools, but this is is one if the least potent WL offenses in recent memory.  

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6 hours ago, nozatx said:

Westlake is only in the D1 bracket because Bowie somehow managed to lose late in the season against Austin High.   Would Westlake have been favored in D2 vs Summer Creek?  Would they have gotten past Vandegrift in quarters?  Probably better chances than against the remaining D1 schools, but this is is one if the least potent WL offenses in recent memory.  

Totally agree w you

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22 hours ago, Helobious said:

I still have Westlake winning this weekend. NS is not as good as last year and still has the same uncreative attack on offense. I have a hard time imagining that working on Westlake for 3 straight years. I do think Duncanville wins it all though. 

Nah. North Shore is on another level. They don't have to be that creative to beat us. They just wear you down and then overpower and outrun you in the second half. Should be a great game between them and Duncanville.  

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15 hours ago, nozatx said:

Westlake is only in the D1 bracket because Bowie somehow managed to lose late in the season against Austin High.   Would Westlake have been favored in D2 vs Summer Creek?  Would they have gotten past Vandegrift in quarters?  Probably better chances than against the remaining D1 schools, but this is is one if the least potent WL offenses in recent memory.  

Also Austin High is smallest school in district (or at worst second smallest) so spare me any hand wringing about a school having to play someone with more enrollment. Westlake beat Lake Travis twice and LT has ~900 more kids than Westlake. 

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On 12/10/2024 at 10:21 AM, Helobious said:

I still have Westlake winning this weekend. NS is not as good as last year and still has the same uncreative attack on offense. I have a hard time imagining that working on Westlake for 3 straight years. I do think Duncanville wins it all though. 

you have not watched the chaps this year then. qb redefines mediocre and the offense overall is pretty putrid. north shore rolls.

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1 hour ago, BrazilHorn said:

Also Austin High is smallest school in district (or at worst second smallest) so spare me any hand wringing about a school having to play someone with more enrollment. Westlake beat Lake Travis twice and LT has ~900 more kids than Westlake. 

Not complaining, just noting how arbitrary the D1/D2 lines can be in 6A.  I don't think a lot of people had AHS beating Bowie.   If you look back at what I wrote, you might see that I'm not sure that Westlake would have done any better this year in D2 (and not sure that they would have beaten Vandy in the QF).   I think they've hit their ceiling either way - out in the semis.  For this team, that's a pretty good accomplishment.   

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you have not watched the chaps this year then. qb redefines mediocre and the offense overall is pretty putrid. north shore rolls.

you have not watched the chaps this year then. qb redefines mediocre and the offense overall is pretty putrid. north shore rolls.

This is correct. A better QB would give them a shot, but they roll with what they have.

As an aside, did anyone see the "don't talk to me during games" FB post the QBs dad wrote a few months ago?


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1 hour ago, nozatx said:

Not complaining, just noting how arbitrary the D1/D2 lines can be in 6A.  I don't think a lot of people had AHS beating Bowie.   If you look back at what I wrote, you might see that I'm not sure that Westlake would have done any better this year in D2 (and not sure that they would have beaten Vandy in the QF).   I think they've hit their ceiling either way - out in the semis.  For this team, that's a pretty good accomplishment.   

It's Westlake's 8th straight year in the semifinals, which is an terrific accomplishment. I'll have to be happy with that this year, along with getting to talk crap w/ my Lake Travis friends and clients one more year.

Would have loved to have Westlake play Vandegrift in the quarter-finals. I think we would have beaten them, but alas, the Football Gods did not smile upon us this year.  

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29 minutes ago, Gardner Barnes said:

 


This is correct. A better QB would give them a shot, but they roll with what they have.

As an aside, did anyone see the "don't talk to me during games" FB post the QBs dad wrote a few months ago?


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lulz

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1 hour ago, Gardner Barnes said:

 


This is correct. A better QB would give them a shot, but they roll with what they have.

As an aside, did anyone see the "don't talk to me during games" FB post the QBs dad wrote a few months ago?


If not - enjoy:869887937099a7549143ae8366c4815c.jpg

 

I also don't like people talking to me during games, and I don't even have a kid playing football. 

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3 hours ago, Gardner Barnes said:

 


This is correct. A better QB would give them a shot, but they roll with what they have.

As an aside, did anyone see the "don't talk to me during games" FB post the QBs dad wrote a few months ago?


If not - enjoy:869887937099a7549143ae8366c4815c.jpg

 

If you talk to me when my son is playing or playing poorly and I’ll kick your ass, in a respectful Christian way of course. XOXO

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18 minutes ago, Iceman said:

nm.  DCTF all over the place on some scores.

I've learned the hard way on DC this past year.  Now, I keep MaxPreps up also and compare the two.  

Season is over for THS.  It was a long run and a great season. 

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Denton Ryan up early 14-0 on Highland Park, lots of football left.

Contrary to some, I like watching games where the broadcast team is so blatantly biased.  The HP guys are doing this game.  The color guy refers to the team as we, yells out 'There it is' or 'Come on now Let's go', and claps when HP gets a stop.   funny stuff.

That's good high school football announcing.

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10 minutes ago, AbeFroman said:

Denton Ryan up early 14-0 on Highland Park, lots of football left.

Contrary to some, I like watching games where the broadcast team is so blatantly biased.  The HP guys are doing this game.  The color guy refers to the team as we, yells out 'There it is' or 'Come on now Let's go', and claps when HP gets a stop.   funny stuff.

That's good high school football announcing.

HP stormed back with a TD, but had the XP blocked.  14-6 Ryan.  Scots moving the ball easily on the ground and via the air.  Ryan had a pick-six that hurt.

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