Strzok Testimony

[FondrenRoad 4378]

3 hours ago, Swam@Texas said:

1) They are elected officials with clearly understood adversarial agendas, not law enforcement officials who are tasked with objectively acting on behalf of the American people.

2) So if there was no problem with Strzok's texts, why did Mueller dismiss him?

Well, look what the cat dragged in. 

[GRHorn 105]

These hearings are so stupid.  Everyone’s bias is confirmed.  The only real gotcha of the last 10 years was in retrospect when we discovered Clapper had lied when directly asked about surveillance. Otherwise it’s all posturing. 

But, the boomer has a point.  Someone who got busted leading a double life banging their coworker inherently has a ding against their honesty.  Period.  I hold Trump to the same standard but he wasn’t testifying under oath today in Congress.  Sorry, when he says he was let go by Mueller for perception of bias instead of bias with those text messages, majority of piece imo go of course he was biased.  Bs.

But...that’s just my bias.  This is all a big circle jerk. 

[GRHorn 105]

2 hours ago, jimmyjazz said:

So let's not trust half of adult Americans, and probably 80% of Congress?

OK.  Which ones?

$25,000 pyramid

Things somebody who has cheated on a spouse would say. 

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[Pods 7551]

7 minutes ago, GRHorn said:

$25,000 pyramid

Things somebody who has cheated on a spouse would say. 

I see Donald Trump has the microphone. 

[Biff Tannen 45673]

1 hour ago, GRHorn said:

These hearings are so stupid.  Everyone’s bias is confirmed.  The only real gotcha of the last 10 years was in retrospect when we discovered Clapper had lied when directly asked about surveillance. Otherwise it’s all posturing. 

But, the boomer has a point.  Someone who got busted leading a double life banging their coworker inherently has a ding against their honesty.  Period.  I hold Trump to the same standard but he wasn’t testifying under oath today in Congress.  Sorry, when he says he was let go by Mueller for perception of bias instead of bias with those text messages, majority of piece imo go of course he was biased.  Bs.

But...that’s just my bias.  This is all a big circle jerk. 

C'mon man.

[Celery Man 20934]

So, if the one dude fucked around on his wife, does that discredit the probe against the other guy who has fucked around on his wives?

[Tuco 5076]

So, apparently if Mark Furman had cheated on his wife, white people would think OJ was innocent. Because perjuring himself about saying n- wasn’t enough.

[SKJ 1311]

2 hours ago, AnonymousInternetPoster said:

When they go low, we go high.

We survived 8 years of BHO, you’ll (probably) survive 4-8 years of DJT. Unless you get ovarian cancer.


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Remember when you reported a post of mine (like a little bitch) saying I was hoping for the president to die? 

Should I report this because you're hoping cancer on someone?

Bitch

[AnonymousInternetPoster 163]

Remember when you reported a post of mine (like a little bitch) saying I was hoping for the president to die? 

Should I report this because you're hoping cancer on someone?

Bitch

I do because you did. Then you chased me around the board like an angry 2 year old little girl and disliked as many of my posts as you could until you ran out of rep.

 

Tell everyone how I responded.

 

I’ll save your bitch ass the trouble. I didn’t. Because you’re a silly little girl.

 

 

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[GRHorn 105]

17 minutes ago, Celery Man said:

So, if the one dude fucked around on his wife, does that discredit the probe against the other guy who has fucked around on his wives?

Has nothing to do with who’s being investigated.   Who is the burden of proof on again?  The cops, rightfully so, are held to a higher standard.  

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[SKJ 1311]

Yup. I negged your bitch ass.

I just find it humorous, you cunt, that you ran off like a bitch and tattled like the little girl.

I didn't run out of rep, though. I ran out of caring after 12 or so.

Run off and tell someone else that I'm being not nice to you here, precious.

Bitch

[Celery Man 20934]

Proof of what?  Who fucked around on whose wife?

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[Woland 733]

How can there be not a single patriot in the Republican caucus?

[Dropout 355]

3 hours ago, Swam@Texas said:

1) They are elected officials with clearly understood adversarial agendas, not law enforcement officials who are tasked with objectively acting on behalf of the American people.

2) So if there was no problem with Strzok's texts, why did Mueller dismiss him?

1) Objectively is to put aside ones feelings and personal opinion. What task did Strozk not objectively act on? His text messages are not an act on behalf of the American people. That’s not his job it’s his personal opinion. When did those opinions cause him not to objectively act?

2) So when Mueller a lifetime R nails every member of this administration people like you have absolutely nothing to point to. A fools errand fools errand is obvious.

2 hours ago, AnonymousInternetPoster said:

Yes, because they would be a proven liar.  Not just a proven liar, but a a proven liar to the person closest to them.

When a man lies, he murders some part of the world.  Cheating on your spouse is the ultimate lie.

Donald Trump probably going down in history as the ultimate proven liar. He is attempting to murder the world every time he opens his mouth I’ll give you that. Has cheated on a few wives multiple times. So far gone past Strozk.

2 hours ago, AnonymousInternetPoster said:

I think the commie pinko bedwetters are just getting warmed up.  I haven't even been instructed to "rape my mother"...yet.

Commie from the guy defending the administration that defends and seemingly protects our actual historic Communist adversary. If your father could see you now...

47 minutes ago, GRHorn said:

These hearings are so stupid.  Everyone’s bias is confirmed.  The only real gotcha of the last 10 years was in retrospect when we discovered Clapper had lied when directly asked about surveillance. Otherwise it’s all posturing. 

But, the boomer has a point.  Someone who got busted leading a double life banging their coworker inherently has a ding against their honesty.  Period.  I hold Trump to the same standard but he wasn’t testifying under oath today in Congress.  Sorry, when he says he was let go by Mueller for perception of bias instead of bias with those text messages, majority of piece imo go of course he was biased.  Bs.

But...that’s just my bias.  This is all a big circle jerk. 

It’s like we need to relearn the English language. I’ll admit Strozk was bias when Mueller releases his findings and finds no cooperation with the Russian government. Oh you say something like 5 or 6 guilty guilty pleas and 19 or so indictments have already happened as a result of this incomplete investigation. One is not bias if the truth and fact of the matter is this administration cooperated with the Russian government and continues to cover it up to this day. It’s obvious you will never hold Trump to any standard despite any oath he’ll take or has taken like idk becoming the POTUS.

[Hornius Emeritus 12456]

3 hours ago, jimmyjazz said:

I guess the wifi was out when this was answered during testimony.  Sucks to be you, ha ha!

 

No kidding. Srozk himself directly answered that specific question.

[AnonymousInternetPoster 163]

It’s like we need to relearn the English language. I’ll admit Strozk was bias when Mueller releases his findings and finds no cooperation with the Russian government. Oh you say something like 5 or 6 guilty guilty pleas and 19 or so indictments have already happened as a result of this incomplete investigation. One is not bias if the truth and fact of the matter is this administration cooperated with the Russian government and continues to cover it up to this day. It’s obvious you will never hold Trump to any standard despite any oath he’ll take or has taken like idk becoming the POTUS.

When they go low, we go high.


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[Dropout 355]

Where’s the low part? When they present you with facts we say when they go low we go high. Is that what you meant?

[AnonymousInternetPoster 163]

Where’s the low part? When they present you with facts we say when they go low we go high. Is that what you meant?

Sorry, you broke up. All I heard was, “socksocksocksocksock!”


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[Dropout 355]

So you got nothing how surprising. No sock. Been lurking since the time of hornfans and only started contributing to help ensure surlys survival w the abrupt change of scenery. But good pivot.

[SKJ 1311]

He may be a hall monitor...

He may have a pad and pencil and write down your demerits...

He'll definitely report you, like a bitch

[zork 629]

so will there be a closed door session where he can answer the questions in private that he was advised not to answer in public?

[Dropout 355]

The man cannot answer questions anywhere until the investigation is complete. Probably bc half of those so vehemently defending Russia and undermining every single one of our intelligence agencies will be indicted as well. It’s not complicated. It’s an ongoing investigation. 

[achooloco 1067]

6 hours ago, Swam@Texas said:

For some reason, it's taking more than five minutes for every member of Congress and every American citizen to understand the incredibly simple concept that someone who texted "Fuck Trump" to his mistress and was subsequently removed from the Mueller team for having texted, among other things, "Fuck Trump" to his mistress should not have been representing the people of the United States in an investigation of Donald Trump.

To make today and last week's behind closed doors testimony about anything other than that -- as members of both parties so embarrassingly did today -- just further demeans a nation that what was once upon a time a shining light on a hill. It wasn't too long ago that there was a legitimate argument that could be made for American Exceptionalism. For the last decade the only concepts American political leaders have embraced have been divisiveness, vitriol and violence. 

Now, return to your corners and either put on your MAGA hat so you can "innocently" stir up trouble at Whataburger or hide your face with the ANTIFA mask and go chase some obscure Cabinet official out of a restaurant. Because that's what the United States of America has devolved into. And it absolutely fucking sucks to witness it.

Hey bro, tell your mom I said hi

[SKJ 1311]

This is what we learned today:

GOP: "These texts from one guy PROVE a deep state conspiracy to undermine Trump."

(Arrests, guilty pleas, indictments, subpoenas, texts, e-mails, letters, hearings, Russia connections, Russian banks, "Russia, if you're listening...", etc)

GOP: "There's no proof of collusion."

[AnonymousInternetPoster 163]

This is what we learned today:
GOP: "These texts from one guy PROVE a deep state conspiracy to undermine Trump."

(Arrests, guilty pleas, indictments, subpoenas, texts, e-mails, letters, hearings, Russia connections, Russian banks, "Russia, if you're listening...", etc)
GOP: "There's no proof of collusion."

Reported


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[achooloco 1067]

37 minutes ago, AnonymousInternetPoster said:

When they go low, we go high.


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You target and abuse children, you’re high is lower than a snake dragging its nuts on the ground. So to paraphrase G Lopez suck my pee bitch!

[SKJ 1311]

Oh, I'm sure you've reported a lot.

Maybe if you keep it up you'll get a gold star, and you and badmofo can be mods together.

You're such a bitch

[AnonymousInternetPoster 163]

Oh, I'm sure you've reported a lot.
Maybe if you keep it up you'll get a gold star, and you and badmofo can be mods together.
You're such a bitch

It was a joke, sugarbritches.


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[SKJ 1311]

And you're still a bitch.

 

[AnonymousInternetPoster 163]

And you're still a bitch.
 

That’s what you’re Mom said.


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[SKJ 1311]

That you're a bitch?

 

[AnonymousInternetPoster 163]

That you're a bitch?
 

Does your mommy know that you’re on her computer?


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[Texas73 420]

Get a room.

[Grandioso 2592]

The double standards, de-contextualizing, and short memories at this thing today were pretty amazing. The faux indignancy about marital infidelity while "their guy" is grabbing pussies and fucking hookers and porn stars. That tweet about Gowdy not responding to the question about calling Steve Bannon back was amazing. "Hey Trey, you said you wanted to hold Strozk in contempt of court for doing the precise thing Steve Bannon did. Are you willing to hold Mr. Bannon in contempt or call him back and compel him to testify?" /Shrug. Because LOL NOTHING MATTERS. I wish Congressional witnesses could cross-examine their accusers, but the Democrat congress members pretty much made their points through those softball questions about hypocrisy. 

Also, the GOP is STILL operating like their party is out of power. They organized this fucking show trial attempting to convict this poor guy as the all-purpose fill-in for the entire DEEP STATE (TM).

[J.R. 150]

This entire shit show perfectly illustrates why all political debate should consist of a televised cross examination of the candidate under oath by a skilled cross examiner with access to documents produced by the candidate and LEOs that do not have to be shared with the candidate in advance. None of these clowns would be in office and it would be mightily entertaining. Maybe we can impose that after Civil War 2. 

[Al Bundy's Napoleon Hand 13580]

You mean 3.

[Al Bundy's Napoleon Hand 13580]

1 hour ago, Grandioso said:

The double standards, de-contextualizing, and short memories at this thing today were pretty amazing. The faux indignancy about marital infidelity while "their guy" is grabbing pussies and fucking hookers and porn stars. That tweet about Gowdy not responding to the question about calling Steve Bannon back was amazing. "Hey Trey, you said you wanted to hold Strozk in contempt of court for doing the precise thing Steve Bannon did. Are you willing to hold Mr. Bannon in contempt or call him back and compel him to testify?" /Shrug. Because LOL NOTHING MATTERS. I wish Congressional witnesses could cross-examine their accusers, but the Democrat congress members pretty much made their points through those softball questions about hypocrisy. 

Also, the GOP is STILL operating like their party is out of power. They organized this fucking show trial attempting to convict this poor guy as the all-purpose fill-in for the entire DEEP STATE (TM).

The dipshits on here trying to bring back from the dead the old conservative reverence for the sanctity of marriage is like watching a doctor dig up a corpse and furiously perform CPR. It's a tacit admission they can't point to any action Strzok took that would undermine the investigation so they're going with the He-cheated-on-his-wife Hail Mary in defense of the president who beat and raped his first wife and cheated on all three.

[Al Bundy's Napoleon Hand 13580]

4 hours ago, zork said:

so will there be a closed door session where he can answer the questions in private that he was advised not to answer in public?

There already was a closed door 11 hour session with Strzok. Democrats are trying to get the transcripts released once the DOJ has had an opportunity to redact classified materials. 

[jimmyjazz 45897]

9 hours ago, AnonymousInternetPoster said:

Hell yes he would!

 

Obviously, Michael Moates, B. Sc. is one of those elitist academics.

[jimmyjazz 45897]

7 hours ago, GRHorn said:

But, the boomer has a point.  Someone who got busted leading a double life banging their coworker inherently has a ding against their honesty.  Period.  I hold Trump to the same standard but he wasn’t testifying under oath today in Congress.

What does testimony under oath have to do with marital infidelity?  Are you implying that Strzok lied yesterday?

Unless I'm mistaken, he took the high road and said nothing when Gohmert went off the rails.

[Tuco 5076]

What does testimony under oath have to do with marital infidelity?  Are you implying that Strzok lied yesterday?
Unless I'm mistaken, he took the high road and said nothing when Gohmert went off the rails.

Actually Gohmert tried to keep Strzok from responding by claiming he had not actually asked a question. The chairman allowed a response, but shutdown Strzok when he started talking about how the questioning reflected on Gohmert’s character.

[Hugo Stiglitz 23367]

I imagine it would be difficult for any objective observer to view Strozk as the nefarious actor yesterday.

[Hugo Stiglitz 23367]

 

[tantric superman 4667]

It's hard for me to imagine someone not seeing the difference between bias reflected in actual material actions (premature closure of an investigation, etc.) and the appearance of bias.  Both are bad and both are worthy of punishment, but there is a difference.

Companies settle cases all the time not because of a discriminatory action, but because of the appearance of discrimination -- the idea that an employee was treated unfairly because of circumstances that make his termination unfair.  The manager who terminated the employee isn't a racist -- he's a fuck up who put the company at risk.

This guy should have been fired, but the only thing to take out of these hearing is that Trump is a divisive dotard that is going to make people crazy, and if people want to do an search of text and email messages they are going to get these kinds of communications from 80% of government workers.  Move on.

[Hank Kingsley 20914]

9 hours ago, zork said:

so will there be a closed door session where he can answer the questions in private that he was advised not to answer in public?

 

[Js1 85302]

13 minutes ago, tantric superman said:

It's hard for me to imagine someone not seeing the difference between bias reflected in actual material actions (premature closure of an investigation, etc.) and the appearance of bias.  Both are bad and both are worthy of punishment, but there is a difference.

Companies settle cases all the time not because of a discriminatory action, but because of the appearance of discrimination -- the idea that an employee was treated unfairly because of circumstances that make his termination unfair.  The manager who terminated the employee isn't a racist -- he's a fuck up who put the company at risk.

This guy should have been fired, but the only thing to take out of these hearing is that Trump is a divisive dotard that is going to make people crazy, and if people want to do an search of text and email messages they are going to get these kinds of communications from 80% of government workers.  Move on.

I dunno man. I was under the impression that things said during an election have no bearing on future actions. Trump can say whatever he wanted about banning Muslims, but that should have no bearing on the "intent" of his travel ban.  Strzok can say what he wants in private, but that should have no bearing on his future investigating of Trump and Russia.  Otherwise, you know, it would be such a double standard.

[triplehorn 2664]

Investigations are driven by facts.  

It’s why you can be a human being with personal opinions and, you know, feelings and still do your job with integity.

By contrast, I’m still trying to understand the basis of Trump’s Muslim ban, because a casual glance reveals that it doesn’t account for the main country of origin of terrorists who have attacked us. 

[Ten Bears 2481]

16 hours ago, Celery Man said:

lulz at raskin rattling off all of the quotes from GOP politicians calling Trump a piece of shit

I missed that.  Anyone have a link?

[maninblack 7974]

 

[udaydanceparty 33]

Strzok was most definitely biased.  Strzok should not have been on any politically linked investigation and that's why he was removed.

His infidelity definitely impacts his credibility as a witness.  If you are willing to lie to your wife, you are pretty much willing to lie about anything. For some reason, this is the first I've heard he was married and these messages were done with his mistress. 

As for this being a conspiracy..  Strzok's responses to those questions were reasonable and believable.  He didn't believe that Trump would be elected and he'd be "stopped" by the voters.  He has TDS.  Unless there is evidence he did something to impact the investigation, they should probably leave him alone.