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Brisketexan
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3.  Shaggybevo.  Truly the most enshittened enterprise in intergoogles history. Literally a scat site. How you left that off the list, I'll never understand.

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so i've been meaning to make a post about this. i've likened it the great chiseling. i think that's where we are. i feel like everything described in this thread is very true and depressing

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5 minutes ago, Incredulity said:

Who sets the standards for the private contractor to bid on?  It's not hands off, I guarantee you.

I agree.  That's my point.  The standards are set by people who are likewise following the "profits over everything, at the expense of everything" model.  And, with increasing frequency, those criteria are being written so the "winning bidder" will be the brother-in-law of a senior official or whatnot.  All while trumpeting how "the private sector just does this better."  Sure, because we've killed the concept of "function of the government, performed for the public good" from the equation.  Again, the point -- and what should be the goal -- is "balance."

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4 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

Yep.  Like....every single ticket for every event that you can buy, which MUST be purchased through a single vendor.  Thanks, SeatGeek...super pumped that you found me tickets for the concert for $90, but when I check out and the total cost is $175 because of added "convenience fee" and "paperless ticket fee," and "because our name has 'geek' in it fee," fuck all the way off.

"Convenience fees" are what make me laugh/ shrug my shoulders on those transactions.  I purchased online so your overhead is cheaper than fuck and you don't have to pay someone to constantly staff a booth/ ticket office; but hey here's a $19.95 convenience fee for making it so convenient for us, the vendor.

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Just now, Iceman said:

"Convenience fees" are what make me laugh/ shrug my shoulders on those transactions.  I purchased online so your overhead is cheaper than fuck and you don't have to pay someone to constantly staff a booth/ ticket office; but hey here's a $19.95 convenience fee for making it so convenient for us, the vendor.

It's their monopoly fee

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4 minutes ago, Firemans4Horn said:

Do they charge for parking if you Uber or park off site? Then yes it’s enshitification

 

Do they charge only if you park there? If so, that’s charging you for a service you are using. And standard operating procedure for a hundred years. 

If it's NYC or somewhere that people can access it by mass transit, then yes, I agree with you.  In the examples I shared, every fucking customer is parking.  Put the cost of parking in the cost of the room and go.

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7 minutes ago, Iceman said:

If it's NYC or somewhere that people can access it by mass transit, then yes, I agree with you.  In the examples I shared, every fucking customer is parking.  Put the cost of parking in the cost of the room and go.


I’m staying at a hotel in downtown OKC tonight. Garage parking is $20, valet parking is $35 and parking on the street next to the hotel is free as long as I park after 5 and move my car by 9am. 
 

I’m parking on the street. 🤷

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12 minutes ago, tbone_ said:

Every fee is just a “because we can” fee. It is literally every businesses mission in life to dig as deep into your pocket as possible.

You guys act like you are new to this world.

That's fair too.  Your assessment... not necessarily the fees.

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2 hours ago, Iceman said:

No.  Total cost isn't my problem, except that I feel they should be more explicit about the total cost.

If I go to Target and get a $12.99 shirt, I expect sales tax at the register.  When i go to a restaurant, I expect both sales tax and to pay a tip.  My complaint about this parking fee is that it is just plain bullshit for no added service.  The parking lot exists whether I am there or not.  It is not covered, nor is the vendor providing security. It is not valet. It is just straight up margin enhancement.  My beef is that they should just reflect it in their initial price quote when you are shopping for the room.

To be honest, the $3fee in Mankato pissed me off for just the principle involved.  I was looking at my receipt a few days later and i was like, "Really bitches???  In that freaking wide open place?"  this coming from a dude who hails from wide open spaces of all wide open spaces in West Texas. Coming soon:  electricity access fee.  I mean, they gave me lights, it should cost more for them to actually work, right?
 

My complaint absolutely fits the spirit of this thread.

You could always park somewhere else.  Or the good old, "Nothing stopping you from opening your own parking lot business."  That's always a laugher.

ETA:  I agree all these add ons are a pain in the ass.  I'm just winding up ol' Slorch.

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3 minutes ago, tbone_ said:


Recent business trip to Denver, hotel receipt had 9 additional fee/tax line items. Including $65/night for valet parking. Total was 175% of the base room rate.

New Orleans is the king of this. City room tax, parish room tax, convention tax (not here for a convention? fuck you, pay me), hotel fee, state room tax, parking, parking tax, you're probably going to drink four hurricanes and puke in your bed cleaning tax.........

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Just dispute every itemized charge and make them prove you utilized it or demand that they remove it.

That’s a good use of time. Arguing the city ordinance mandated historic preservation fee, lodgers tax, state tax, tourism tax, destination amenity fee, etc etc.
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10 minutes ago, Pescado_Rojo said:

you're probably going to drink four hurricanes and puke in your bed cleaning tax.........

I always dispute that one.

I don't drink Hurricanes since The Post-Bar Exam Incident of 1995.  My wife can tell you all about it.

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On 11/19/2024 at 9:43 AM, Iceman said:

Parking at hotels. 
Last week in Mankato, Mn; outdoor regular self parking at a Fairfield/ HIExpress/ Hampton type property- $3

This week in LA at similar property, outdoor, self park, no extra security- $ 25 

 

there is literally no extra service being provided. It is 100% margin enhancement. Just put it in the price of the fucking room.

Had meetings in Carlsbad, CA a few weeks ago and stayed at a Courtyard Marriott.  It was located in a business district w/ plenty of parking.  $15/day for my rental car. 

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14 hours ago, Incredulity said:

he is arguing against the itemization/surcharge/resort fee bullshit that has infected damn near every transaction.  It's fundamentally dishonest to advertise something as $89 then add on a $40 resort fee, $25 parking fee, $20 service fee...for a real price of $174

That commie paradise of California has outlawed this practice.  As of July 1, 2024, all online upfront prices must include all service fees.  

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13 hours ago, rpspeed said:

Schlotzsky's.  Download the app for free, just pay a little extra every time you use it.

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One of my favorite bits of enshittening is how every fucking place on earth has its own app.  If I stop on the road to buy a coffee at Ed's Coffee Shop and Art Studio or whatever the fuck, when I go to check out, they want me to pay with their app, download their app, etc.

FFS, I probably do business with several hundred companies/businesses over the course of the year.  I have at least 5 fucking airline apps alone on my phone, because you pretty much HAVE to have an airline's app to get your boarding pass and such. Add every coffee and sandwich and dry cleaners and hardware store and grocery store and auto repair and clothing and barbershop and fucking everything else, and my phone would have 300 fucking apps on it.

Fuck that fucking shit.  Let me come into your establishment.  Let me pay money for your product, which you then give to me.  Don't penalize me for not downloading your motherfucking app.  Or if you're Schlotzky's, apparently....don't penalize me FOR downloading your motherfucking app.

Everyone on earth doesn't need an app.

Just like we don't need 98 different streaming services.  We don't need monopolies, but we also don't need to make everything more complicated.  If you used to be able to place an order at place X, and then pay money, and then receive what you ordered, that was literally two points of possible failure.  Now, I have to do it online, where it requires me to enter all kinds of shit, my one-time code, etc. etc., introducing MULTIPLE points of failure so my order doesn't go through or some shit like that.  Someone decided that introducing MORE points of failure was a great idea, and everyone ran with it.

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15 hours ago, rpspeed said:

Schlotzsky's.  Download the app for free, just pay a little extra every time you use it.

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I ordered from the Shipley app once just so I could run in and pick up some donuts on the way to work, then noticed they fucking charge an extra fee just to use their own app, and it's not even just a service fee it's an "estimated" service fee...fuck all the way off with that

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1 hour ago, Brisketexan said:

One of my favorite bits of enshittening is how every fucking place on earth has its own app.  If I stop on the road to buy a coffee at Ed's Coffee Shop and Art Studio or whatever the fuck, when I go to check out, they want me to pay with their app, download their app, etc.

FFS, I probably do business with several hundred companies/businesses over the course of the year.  I have at least 5 fucking airline apps alone on my phone, because you pretty much HAVE to have an airline's app to get your boarding pass and such. Add every coffee and sandwich and dry cleaners and hardware store and grocery store and auto repair and clothing and barbershop and fucking everything else, and my phone would have 300 fucking apps on it.

Fuck that fucking shit.  Let me come into your establishment.  Let me pay money for your product, which you then give to me.  Don't penalize me for not downloading your motherfucking app.  Or if you're Schlotzky's, apparently....don't penalize me FOR downloading your motherfucking app.

Everyone on earth doesn't need an app.

Just like we don't need 98 different streaming services.  We don't need monopolies, but we also don't need to make everything more complicated.  If you used to be able to place an order at place X, and then pay money, and then receive what you ordered, that was literally two points of possible failure.  Now, I have to do it online, where it requires me to enter all kinds of shit, my one-time code, etc. etc., introducing MULTIPLE points of failure so my order doesn't go through or some shit like that.  Someone decided that introducing MORE points of failure was a great idea, and everyone ran with it.

Those sex toy sites and add ons keep americans employed and the user's personality secure. I mean, all those codes are not tied to you at all. . Ever think of that?

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1 hour ago, InkaUtexas said:

Those sex toy sites and add ons keep americans employed and the user's personality secure. I mean, all those codes are not tied to you at all. . Ever think of that?

Well, of course they're not tied to me.

I use a VPN and a burner gmail for all of my sex site stuff.  Duh.  You think I'm some sort of amateur?

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22 hours ago, Brisketexan said:

One of my favorite bits of enshittening is how every fucking place on earth has its own app.  If I stop on the road to buy a coffee at Ed's Coffee Shop and Art Studio or whatever the fuck, when I go to check out, they want me to pay with their app, download their app, etc.

FFS, I probably do business with several hundred companies/businesses over the course of the year.  I have at least 5 fucking airline apps alone on my phone, because you pretty much HAVE to have an airline's app to get your boarding pass and such. Add every coffee and sandwich and dry cleaners and hardware store and grocery store and auto repair and clothing and barbershop and fucking everything else, and my phone would have 300 fucking apps on it.

Fuck that fucking shit.  Let me come into your establishment.  Let me pay money for your product, which you then give to me.  Don't penalize me for not downloading your motherfucking app.  Or if you're Schlotzky's, apparently....don't penalize me FOR downloading your motherfucking app.

Everyone on earth doesn't need an app.

Just like we don't need 98 different streaming services.  We don't need monopolies, but we also don't need to make everything more complicated.  If you used to be able to place an order at place X, and then pay money, and then receive what you ordered, that was literally two points of possible failure.  Now, I have to do it online, where it requires me to enter all kinds of shit, my one-time code, etc. etc., introducing MULTIPLE points of failure so my order doesn't go through or some shit like that.  Someone decided that introducing MORE points of failure was a great idea, and everyone ran with it.

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