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The Imminent End of One and Done

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Patrick Bateman

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NBA Commissioner built on some previous comments about abolishing the one and done rule which was one of the last negotiated principles by the last commissioner, David Stern.  This was discussed and told to the NBA's Board of Governors.  

Silver, himself, has been slowly changing his position on this subject over the past decade....

A lot of this is based on the NCAA Commission on basketball headed by Condi Rice, which published their findings and opinions in April.

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/23304802/condoleezza-rice-commission-recommendations-one-done-nba-draft-corruption-recruiting

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"NBA" is mentioned 86 times in the report. Abolishing the NBA age limit, also known as the one-and-done rule, is the commission's first recommendation.

It did not mince words, saying that "one-and-done has played a significant role in corrupting and destabilizing college basketball, restricting the freedom of choice of players, and undermining the relationship of college basketball to the mission of higher education."

The insistence on prioritizing this topic over a myriad of others is an indication of how much the commission is washing its hands of any real responsibility for the issues facing college basketball.

So, it's really a matter of when this rule falls, not if.  To bring home the impact, it would likely mean the Kevin Durant's, Mo Bamba's, and Tristan Thompson's would have likely bypassed college and wouldn't have become Longhorns (although many in our community don't feel those guys are "real Longhorns" because of tenure).  

While, it may seem like this is obvious.... allow people with special skills to be able to be paid for them and not force them into some sort of bogus minor league system which they may not be suited for, it will have major impacts on all levels of basketball -- Professional, minor league, college, and possibly even HS. 

One and done, good for the game?  Need a better system like baseball?  Get the NCAA out of these guy's faces?  Any opinions?  If the NBA falls, how long until the NFL moves?  Thought it may be good to have one place to discuss in the dog days of summer... 

 

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The NBA should do the following:

Move summer league earlier to early June and draft workout either before or after.

Move NBA draft to July. 

If early entrants are not graded well or advised to return or go to school.....

Then this is where the NCAA can do right and allow them back or in.

Just my .02

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8 minutes ago, longhornmatt said:

It won’t really matter much for the college game unless it’s accompanied by a rule like baseball that says once you go to college you have to stay 3 years.  When you take out the Kevin Durants from college basketball, then the guys like Daniel Gibson and Maurice Evans look better by comparison and still go pro as soon as they can, anyway.

Agreed. The Baseball route is still the way to go

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15 minutes ago, SA-KC_Horn said:

The NBA should do the following:

Move summer league earlier to early June and draft workout either before or after.

Move NBA draft to July. 

If early entrants are not graded well or advised to return or go to school.....

Then this is where the NCAA can do right and allow them back or in.

Just my .02

Have summer league before players are drafted??  Interesting

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If you look back at that time though the bust rate on HS players was probably lower than the bust rate on players who went to college.      A great deal of the HS went on to be at worst solid pros.  Obviously many became superstars. 

 

Still,  now that the g-league is becoming a more viable alternative, I think we are even more ready for the one and done to go away.   

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16 minutes ago, longhornmatt said:

It won’t really matter much for the college game unless it’s accompanied by a rule like baseball that says once you go to college you have to stay 3 years.  When you take out the Kevin Durants from college basketball, then the guys like Daniel Gibson and Maurice Evans look better by comparison and still go pro as soon as they can, anyway.

While I agree, what about guys like Jordan Hamilton or Cory Joseph?  Knowing they were simply biding their time in college and strongly feeling the NBA was their professional destination for at least their 20's, would it make more sense for them to go into the draft and then sign a 2 way or G league contract and be developed professionally.  IMO, there's little doubt the G league is going to be a big winner with the change in the rule.   Additionally, there's also little doubt, being able to work on your game professionally, without rules limiting time spent developing your game, is far more productive if you want to give playing professional basketball a real opportunity.  I purposely used two guys who's NBA careers were up in the air and have had different results.  

FWIW, Jordan Hamilton has still grossed well over 1 million in his career and still playing overseas.....

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1 hour ago, Patrick Bateman said:

NBA Commissioner built on some previous comments about abolishing the one and done rule which was one of the last negotiated principles by the last commissioner, David Stern.  This was discussed and told to the NBA's Board of Governors.  

Silver, himself, has been slowly changing his position on this subject over the past decade....

A lot of this is based on the NCAA Commission on basketball headed by Condi Rice, which published their findings and opinions in April.

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/23304802/condoleezza-rice-commission-recommendations-one-done-nba-draft-corruption-recruiting

So, it's really a matter of when this rule falls, not if.  To bring home the impact, it would likely mean the Kevin Durant's, Mo Bamba's, and Tristan Thompson's would have likely bypassed college and wouldn't have become Longhorns (although many in our community don't feel those guys are "real Longhorns" because of tenure).  

While, it may seem like this is obvious.... allow people with special skills to be able to be paid for them and not force them into some sort of bogus minor league system which they may not be suited for, it will have major impacts on all levels of basketball -- Professional, minor league, college, and possibly even HS. 

One and done, good for the game?  Need a better system like baseball?  Get the NCAA out of these guy's faces?  Any opinions?  If the NBA falls, how long until the NFL moves?  Thought it may be good to have one place to discuss in the dog days of summer... 

 

No 18-year-old kid coming out of HS is ready to play in the NFL so it's a complete non-issue in that sport.

I hate the one-and-done rule because it's ruined college basketball for me. Like others, I do think it would be good to enact the baseball formula where you can go pro right out of HS but if you choose the college route, you've got to spend more than one season at that level before being eligible for the draft.

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2 hours ago, Orca of Peace said:

how many One & Done guys won the college title?  Carmelo and Anthony Davis IIRC. I'm talking top 10 picks . We know UNC, Duke, Kentucky have won titles in the last 15 years but it was a team effort with several one year players (AD had a loaded team also but he's a special case)

 Carmelo wasn't even in college under the 1 year rule.  

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8 minutes ago, Michael Knight said:

Abolish AAU basketball, that will go a long way towards fixing the problem. 7on7 is gonna ruin college football soon enough

Agreed. One of the major appeals of football is how accessible it is relative to baseball or basketball. 

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Wow, nationalized high school developmental program.  Very interesting and definitely a huge benefit to those identified at this early age.  Foresee some shenanigans going on with how these kids/young men are selected.

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USA Basketball has identified top young players for decades and brought them together to train for international competitions. Now the program will be extended to approximately 80 players, or about 20 per high school class, and the NBA will provide health and wellness training, as well as assisting in other developmental programs. The series of training camps and competitions will begin in October at USA Basketball's headquarters in Colorado Springs, Colorado.

It's the first time these four parties have formally aligned and combined their resources toward a common goal. And unlike earlier this month when the NCAA rolled out changes to its eligibility rules that would allow some college players to sign with agents -- an announcement that caught the NBA and USA Basketball by surprise -- all of the groups are on the same page for this important step.

The expanded program will provide doctors, athletic trainers and experts in health and performance year-round to the players and be led by longtime Boston Celtics athletic trainer Ed Lacerte. Once fully operational, not only will it improve training and care but will give NBA officials and teams the chance to work with and evaluate players for several years before they enter draft eligibility.

 

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G-League going for their piece of the pie as a bridge until 2022....

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In a move that could challenge the NCAA's monopoly on elite talent, the NBA's G League is creating a new venture as an alternative to the one-and-done route for the best American basketball prospects, it was announced Thursday.

As part of a newly formed professional path starting in the summer of 2019, the G League will offer "Select Contracts" worth $125,000 to elite prospects who are at least 18 years old but not yet eligible for the NBA draft.

The G League will target recent or would-be high school graduates who otherwise would have likely spent just one season playing college basketball, enticing them not only with a six-figure salary but also the opportunity to benefit from NBA infrastructure, as well as a bevy of off-court development programs "geared toward facilitating and accelerating their transition to the pro game," league president Malcolm Turner told ESPN.

2022, this will be over.....

Other avenues....

Some guys in the next 3 years will still probably do one and done because of the TV exposure, college life, under the table payments, etc.... but eventually they'll go right to the NBA.

I would imagine the G-League will take the leftovers for guys who aren't good enough to jump right to the NBA starting in 2022.

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