Cowboys v Lions

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[Hermanator 6916]

5 minutes ago, Mileslong said:

If you fumble it forwards and it goes out of bounds they bring it back to that spot and retain possession. Why should that change just because it’s at the goal line?

Fumbling forward needs to be penalized in some way. The offense should not go unpenalized for fucking up. If they want to change it to a fumble forward is a 10 or 15 yd penalty instead of turnover I'd be fine with that too. 

[gsoda3 3234]

Skipper didn’t report. The bald guy did. Doesn’t matter anyway because the left tackle was uncovered so immediate illegal formation.

That's not what they called though. They said 68 didn't report, which he clearly did and he did so before 70 got to the ref. We got handed a gift.

[Huckleberry 32685]

6 minutes ago, 'stache said:

He was the second lineman from the qb, usually reporting has to do with your number, but you still have to be in an eligible position, right? It seems to me he’s ineligible either way.

After watching it more times you're right, it's weird. Skipper wasn't in an eligible position. Only 68 needed to report, but it is 100% clear from the replays that the referee pointed at and recognized Skipper as eligible. 

[dcar00 14023]

10 minutes ago, msucolt45 said:

Yes - all 68 had to do was say “hey ref I’m here and eligible” just a wave/acknowledgment? But all tv said was 70 was eligible?

Hook’em!!!

58(Sewell) was the guy next to 68(funny that the numbers look very similar when your uniform is scrunched up) initially talking to the ref.  then 70, Skipper, comes over late to the ref but 70 was inside 58 on the right side.  

58 was declared eligible by the ref I think but was covered.  or if he wasn't covered then there are 5 in the backfield.

[Gucci_Suit 2610]

Fuck them. We were going to win with 23 seconds anyway. Stop being pussies. So many times the “controversy” has gone the other way. Fuck them. 

[dcar00 14023]

1 minute ago, Huckleberry said:

After watching it more times you're right, it's weird. Skipper wasn't in an eligible position. Only 68 needed to report, but it is 100% clear from the replays that the referee pointed at and recognized Skipper as eligible. 

Didn't he point at 58 who was with 68 talking to the ref initially?

[Huckleberry 32685]

4 minutes ago, Firemans4Horn said:

their head coach and #70 roid raging makes me think you are right. 

Yep and again that's stupid. The referee tells the defense the number that is reporting eligible. Any attempt to be sneaky about it is stupid Aggie shit from Campbell.

[Billy Pilgrim 1912]

Whether he reported or not, the formation was illegal. A penalty should’ve been and was called and the correct result of that play occurred. Campbell should’ve kicked the extra point when the penalty was called.

[dcar00 14023]

30 minutes ago, 4th&Five said:

There’s no way they practiced that play as much as they did and he would forget to report. 

why do 3 linemen go over to the ref?  only 68 needs to go over to him.

[Huckleberry 32685]

1 minute ago, Billy Pilgrim said:

Whether he reported or not, the formation was illegal. A penalty should’ve been and was called and the correct result of that play occurred. Campbell should’ve kicked the extra point when the penalty was called.

No, if Decker had reported and been recognized the formation was legal. 

[Billy Pilgrim 1912]

5 minutes ago, Huckleberry said:

Yep and again that's stupid. The referee tells the defense the number that is reporting eligible. Any attempt to be sneaky about it is stupid Aggie shit from Campbell.

It looked like after 68 caught the pass that a couple of cowboys pointed at him as if to say that he wasn’t the guy they were told reported as eligible.

['stache 21743]

Just now, Billy Pilgrim said:

Whether he reported or not, the formation was illegal. A penalty should’ve been and was called and the correct result of that play occurred. Campbell should’ve kicked the extra point when the penalty was called.

I think the formation was ok but he was an ineligible receiver. You can’t report and make yourself eligible just by saying it, you still have to be in an eligible position. Otherwise why wouldn’t every lineman just report just in case?

[4th&Five 41457]

 

[Billy Pilgrim 1912]

He  was lined up 2 down from the center (in left tackle position) on the line of scrimmage and then had a receiver on that side also on the line. If the receiver is on the line, any other player also on the line inside of that receiver on that side of the ball is ineligible.

[dcar00 14023]

how does anyone know if Decker said anything? why is 58 walking over with him?

Scott Van Pelt was assuming the same thing.

[dcar00 14023]

2 minutes ago, Billy Pilgrim said:

He  was lined up 2 down from the center (in left tackle position) on the line of scrimmage and then had a receiver on that side also on the line. If the receiver is on the line, any other player also on the line inside of that receiver on that side of the ball is ineligible.

the receiver to the left of 68 is off the line.

[Mileslong 4710]

 

Here are some screenshots, Skipper never reported, he never got any closer than are what’s showing here. He tried to pull something and got caught.

[Huckleberry 32685]

4 minutes ago, Billy Pilgrim said:

He  was lined up 2 down from the center (in left tackle position) on the line of scrimmage and then had a receiver on that side also on the line. If the receiver is on the line, any other player also on the line inside of that receiver on that side of the ball is ineligible.

The receiver was off the line. 

[Tommy Shelby 188]

Doesn’t the PA system also announce the eligible receivers? Or is that just a stadium by stadium thing?

[dcar00 14023]

8 minutes ago, 4th&Five said:

 

was Dan Wetzel standing next to Decker?  Is he #58?

[Huckleberry 32685]

Just now, Mileslong said:

Here are some screenshots, Skipper never reported, he never got any closer than are what’s showing here. He tried to pull something and got caught.

Dude it's been clarified that 70 was recognized as reporting eligible, the refs told the Lions that was what happened. And the referee clearly points at Skipper and nods at him and recognized him before your screenshots. 

[4th&Five 41457]

It won’t really matter. Neither team is winning more than one playoff game. 

['stache 21743]

2 minutes ago, Billy Pilgrim said:

He  was lined up 2 down from the center (in left tackle position) on the line of scrimmage and then had a receiver on that side also on the line. If the receiver is on the line, any other player also on the line inside of that receiver on that side of the ball is ineligible.

Unless someone can explain this away, I’m convinced he was ineligible. Again, you can’t just declare yourself eligible and be eligible. The point of reporting is because the number on your jersey is otherwise ineligible. You still have to line up as an eligible receiver. Every time I’ve seen that is because they put a lineman in as a tight end and they have to report to let the defense know that a guy wearing 68 is playing a position that usually wears a number in the 80s. I think they tried to play a cute game and got caught, I need a good explanation to believe otherwise. Just approaching the ref isn’t enough even if you claim you called yourself eligible. Yet again, if that was the rule, why wouldn’t every lineman “declare” themselves eligible on every play? I feel like the commentators are ignoring this for the exposure of controversy.

[Mileslong 4710]

Dude it's been clarified that 70 was recognized as reporting eligible, the refs told the Lions that was what happened. And the referee clearly points at Skipper and nods at him and recognized him before your screenshots. 

So you’re saying it’s a conspiracy by the refs that they were told by everyone that they were eligible but chose to ignore it? Everyone that needed to report, didn’t period.

[Gucci_Suit 2610]

If the Lions won on a somewhat controversial call, SVP would be showing wnba highlights right now. 

[Billy Pilgrim 1912]

Anyone have a screenshot of the formation on that play? Certainly looked like the receiver on the end was on the line to me.

[BachelorTrek 2925]

 

 

[Nicole44 22023]

They’ve been breaking it down over and over on ESPN. And over. 

[BachelorTrek 2925]

1 minute ago, Nicole44 said:

They’ve been breaking it down over and over on ESPN. And over. 

And you admit that you love it.  Lulz.

[dcar00 14023]

2 minutes ago, BachelorTrek said:

 

 

Goff also send 58 over to the ref too.  how do we know 58 didn't report and why is he even going over to the ref?

[Nicole44 22023]

1 minute ago, BachelorTrek said:

And you admit that you love it.  Lulz.

Sure sure sure. In looking at the X or whatever I found this gem:

 

['stache 21743]

I think they planned to get away with something in a way that if they got caught they could claim controversy. I just don’t see how he’s an eligible receiver from where he line up, even if he reported. They had him go to the ref specifically so they could pretend he “reported” even though he knew he couldn’t become eligible by declaring it like Michael Scott “declaring” bankruptcy.

[dcar00 14023]

1 minute ago, Nicole44 said:

Sure sure sure. In looking at the X or whatever I found this gem:

 

ha.  the only thing that kept working was the radio.

[dcar00 14023]

once 70 was announced Goff could have stopped and told the ref he was wrong.  Goff fucked up.

[BurntOrange&White 39486]

25 minutes ago, Billy Pilgrim said:

He  was lined up 2 down from the center (in left tackle position) on the line of scrimmage and then had a receiver on that side also on the line. If the receiver is on the line, any other player also on the line inside of that receiver on that side of the ball is ineligible.

Receiver wasn’t on the line. The formation is fine and the ref botched the call. Plain and simple. 

[BachelorTrek 2925]

2 minutes ago, Nicole44 said:

Sure sure sure. In looking at the X or whatever I found this gem:

 

I remember those, but I'm older than that.

I remember the old Indian-head test pattern, too!  Lulz.

https://www.amazon.com/Vintage-Pattern-Please-Stand-T-Shirt/dp/B08NM3ZYBB/ref=asc_df_B08NM3ZYBB/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=658741769935&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=5693128315994762442&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=m&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=1026201&hvtargid=pla-2064544501626&psc=1&mcid=eeb4531384b538d29f751645460baf43

 

[Hank Kingsley 20635]

 

[BurntOrange&White 39486]

 

[gsoda3 3234]

Here are some screenshots, Skipper never reported, he never got any closer than are what’s showing here. He tried to pull something and got caught.

Here's a screenshot of 58 and 68 walking to the ref and being acknowledged about 2 seconds before your two screenshots.

[gsoda3 3234]

 

That ref is going to deservedly get held over the coals. Not only for tonight's mistake but also for being part of the crew for those two other games. Why is he even bothering to explain his side when the replay clearly shows it couldn't have happened that way?

[BachelorTrek 2925]

Video proof -- over the Spanish, #70 and only #70 is announced by the ref as eligible over the PA:

 

[Mileslong 4710]

That ref is going to deservedly get held over the coals. Not only for tonight's mistake but also for being part of the crew for those two other games. Why is he even bothering to explain his side when the replay clearly shows it couldn't have happened that way?

You have no idea what was said by anyone. You think he heard it and just ignored it?

[Valmy77 13092]

Poor Michigan. Surely nothing else bad could happen to them in sports in the next few days...

[lilMAC25 3776]

Here’s a fun tweet. Dallas 89 got called for tripping… it was the Detroit DE. If called correctly, Dallas has a 1-10 at the Detroit 15 or so with 3 min left in the game.

 

 

Edited December 31, 2023 by lilMAC25

[gsoda3 3234]

You have no idea what was said by anyone. You think he heard it and just ignored it?

You think it's more believable 58 and 68 just walked over to him for kicks? Right before the biggest play of the game?

[BurntOrange&White 39486]

1 minute ago, Valmy77 said:

Poor Michigan. Surely nothing else bad could happen to them in sports in the next few days...

Pistons snapped their losing streak 

[lilMAC25 3776]

1 minute ago, gsoda3 said:

3 minutes ago, Mileslong said:

You have no idea what was said by anyone. You think he heard it and just ignored it?

You think it's more believable 58 and 68 just walked over to him for kicks? Right before the biggest play of the game?

The official clearly announced 70 as eligible. At that point, Detroit has to correct it or 68 isn’t eligible.

[cmontexas 3242]

The Lions will still be the 3 seed and the Cowboys will still be the 5 seed. Who fuckin cares? What did this conspiracy accomplish?

[dcar00 14023]

6 minutes ago, gsoda3 said:

Here's a screenshot of 58 and 68 walking to the ref and being acknowledged about 2 seconds before your two screenshots.

you are assuming 58 and 68 have been acknowledged or even said anything.  he's not even looking at them. why do people keep doing this?

dumbass aggy coach and Goff were probably happy 70 got announced as eligible.  "this is great, they think 70 is eligible our super secret squirrel play will work"

dumbasses just like McCarthy.