Joe Biden 2024 thread - Dark Brandon Where Art Thou?

[Satchel 6938]

On 2/11/2024 at 3:58 PM, YGIFS said:

I still try to read, on the regular, WaPo and Mother Jones and the Atlantic and similar pieces.  But I just am not as deep into the left-wing media as most of you.  So I am genuinely asking---I get that most administrations in the modern era of both parties don't run on, as a key point, "I'm the Chief Executive...so that means I delegate to smart, capable people."  Because maybe it's not inspiring or drives people the polls.  Same reason, I guess we don't run out to buy shit from Kohl's because their board elected a really great new COO or General Counsel.  But this is certainly one of the things I admire most about Biden is he's totally content to let smart, capable, ethical people run serious, serious shit.  To sane people with morals like some of us, that's a massive fucking positive.  Especially when you contrast it with the revolving door that was the Trump White House and everybody either quit, got fired, got arrested, or thrown under the bus by him.  

I get that it's a point of vulnerability for Biden to say, "Yeah, maybe I am getting up there in age but I have brilliant, energetic people all around me who are executing on making America better every single minute of every single day."  There's obviously a reason why that hasn't been messaged since the Truman administration.  I'm not saying make it the main campaign slogan, but it is such a missed opportunity IMO for the Biden campaign, mainly for reminding Democrats and Independents of his great team.  Yeah, it's not gonna play well to GOP voters, but guess what?  Spoiler alert, they already think he's too old and/or a fake President delegating to the Deep State.  What the fuck is there to lose in making this at least a bullet point feature of his campaign down the list?  Yeah, I see his surrogates out there touting achievements and that's all well and good.  But that's because we're political nerds who seek that shit out.  It's worth a fucking shot to lock up some "meh, he's better than Trump...but I just feel like sitting this cycle out." kinda folks.  I mean from House All-Stars, to most of the Cabinet, to the Joint Chiefs, to Diplomats, they're covering a lot of bases right now and if marketed correctly, it can be a real net positive to any incumbent be there 81 or 41.  /rant

I don’t really get why most people seem to accept that Pope Francis, while feeble in body, and up in age (will turn 88 this year) is capable of making significant changes within a stodgy, difficult organization of one billion people, while they constantly whine about our transformational 81 year old president.

[Longhorn_Fan68 33869]

12 hours ago, Satchel said:

I don’t really get why most people seem to accept that Pope Francis, while feeble in body, and up in age (will turn 88 this year) is capable of making significant changes within a stodgy, difficult organization of one billion people, while they constantly whine about our transformational 81 year old president.

we're a country full of people ready to pounce on weakness. age is definitely seen as a weakness in this country and the reverence for aged wisdom is gone. the reason the age thing is sticking here is it's the only fact they have to run on. everything else is perception or just flat-out falsehoods. they have nothing else to attack. so here we are

[David Dennison 18856]

6 minutes ago, Longhorn_Fan68 said:

we're a country full of people ready to pounce on weakness. age is definitely seen as a weakness in this country and the reverence for aged wisdom is gone. the reason the age thing is sticking here is it's the only fact they have to run on. everything else is perception or just flat-out falsehoods. they have nothing else to attack. so here we are

It's sticking because he looks, sounds, and acts like an old man, which he is.

[Hugo Stiglitz 23367]

1 minute ago, Longhorn_Fan68 said:

we're a country full of people ready to pounce on weakness. age is definitely seen as a weakness in this country and the reverence for aged wisdom is gone. the reason the age thing is sticking here is it's the only fact they have to run on. everything else is perception or just flat-out falsehoods. they have nothing else to attack. so here we are

For me it’s not so much the age, it’s the unavoidable observable consequences of too many birthdays. People age differently, I know guys (and gals) in their early eighties that are still sharpe, articulate, and/or extremely skilled at hiding the steps they’ve lost over the years.  Biden isn’t one of these people and never has been.  This was among the big concerns about Biden in the 2020 primaries, there was no well laid out long term plan past the 2020 election, but the next alternative (Bernie), was even older and arguably more risky, so it became a moot point by Super Tuesday. 

Trump is a monster and should not be walking freely among us so the choice between Biden and Trump is easy for me but it’s becoming increasingly difficult to defend a system that repeatedly produces these objectively poor and antiquated leadership choices.  
 

[The Original Greaser Bob 2830]

I mean once you get past the fact that a little less then half the country prefers a treasonous scumbag for President, then you have to decide what the best option is to run against that treasonous scumbag.

That ship has sailed.  I think a number of other dems could have beaten Trump, but I'll never know, and those folks didn't have the balls to try to run anyway, so here we are.

Let's hope the state of the union goes well and Trump shits himself.

[Snake Diggity 4622]

Biden needs a good SOTU.  Then he needs to stay away from cameras and microphones as much as possible until September, at which point he needs 70 days where he campaigns like hell without looking like he’s on death’s door.   If that happens without the economy tanking, he should win.  I don’t even think the US getting attacked would favor Trump.  Trump not wanting to debate is a blessing for Biden.

[Skipper 6135]

30 minutes ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

For me it’s not so much the age, it’s the unavoidable observable consequences of too many birthdays. People age differently, I know guys (and gals) in their early eighties that are still sharpe, articulate, and/or extremely skilled at hiding the steps they’ve lost over the years. 
 

I read something last week to the effect that the age thing is really hitting home with those that have witnessed the rapid cognitive decline from their parents (in their 80's) up close.  And with that context, and as noted in a subsequent post, how is Biden (really either of them) going to hold up having to deal with constant campaign travel/public events this fall?  That shit would be exhausting for someone half their age and neither will be able to hide it.  It may be whichever has the fewest major gaffes and generally looks less likely to die in the next 4 years has an advantage for anyone remotely on the fence.  Neither is going to have a VP that moves the needle so no advantage there (I still think Biden should have somehow tried to pivot over a year ago to be in a position to announce a more popular VP although fully acknowledge easier said than done).  It's a mess.  At this point I think the D think tank needs to be working overtime on how to improve Kamala's approval rating.  I know she did an appearance on The View or one of those shows recently.  More of that.

[YGIFS 19450]

1 hour ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

For me it’s not so much the age, it’s the unavoidable observable consequences of too many birthdays. People age differently, I know guys (and gals) in their early eighties that are still sharpe, articulate, and/or extremely skilled at hiding the steps they’ve lost over the years.  Biden isn’t one of these people and never has been.  This was among the big concerns about Biden in the 2020 primaries, there was no well laid out long term plan past the 2020 election, but the next alternative (Bernie), was even older and arguably more risky, so it became a moot point by Super Tuesday. 

Trump is a monster and should not be walking freely among us so the choice between Biden and Trump is easy for me but it’s becoming increasingly difficult to defend a system that repeatedly produces these objectively poor and antiquated leadership choices.  
 

Couple years ago, we had a birthday party for Bob Inman at LBJ school when he hit 90.  He spoke at length about Ukraine, Taiwan, and the Middle East.   Serious insight.  Everybody went out for cake.  I walked by the podium to collect his stuff.  There was nothing there.  No notes.  No phone.  He delivered a state department/NSA level one hour briefing from his head.  At 90.  I was 45 at the time and didn’t remember where the fuck my truck was parked.  Age is fungible and relative.  But chronology is cruel.

i was all in for Biden in 2020 And did way beyond my fair share for him to defeat the tumor.  But i really hope your party has a mid to long range plan that I’m understandably not privy to.  Because the cancer is Here to stay and it’s not going to take a day off for a long while.  

[wildcat09 29353]

26 minutes ago, YGIFS said:

Couple years ago, we had a birthday party for Bob Inman at LBJ school when he hit 90.  He spoke at length about Ukraine, Taiwan, and the Middle East.   Serious insight.  Everybody went out for cake.  I walked by the podium to collect his stuff.  There was nothing there.  No notes.  No phone.  He delivered a state department/NSA level one hour briefing from his head.  At 90.  I was 45 at the time and didn’t remember where the fuck my truck was parked.  Age is fungible and relative.  But chronology is cruel.

i was all in for Biden in 2020 And did way beyond my fair share for him to defeat the tumor.  But i really hope your party has a mid to long range plan that I’m understandably not privy to.  Because the cancer is Here to stay and it’s not going to take a day off for a long while.  

Lol. 

[Js1 85320]

34 minutes ago, YGIFS said:

But i really hope your party has a mid to long range plan that I’m understandably not privy to.

Such as? There’s a very deep bench of potential candidates that are all in on team Biden while gearing up for 2028 and beyond 

[gmr548 16576]

On 2/19/2024 at 7:05 PM, YGIFS said:

Inveterate Racist?  You're really not gonna like some of the other U.S. Presidents before/after him then.  

I was just at the LBJ School/Library  earlier today for the annual Barbara Jordan forum.  Like my feelings on Wilson, I'm still not a fan of LBJ.  But one thing I appreciate about his final years is he basically said "I am a flawed man.  These are my archives.  This is my legacy.  For better or worse, let people learn from my mistakes and my achievements."  The majority of our 46 Presidents were out and out racists.  Was it a product of their times?  Do some get a pass for at least trying to reach out to people of color or end slavery or engage the marginalized?  You students of history can sort that out yourselves.  But I will give LBJ credit for setting the standard of pouring every thing into his library for the world to see and hear and read, for better or worse.  In the end, he acknowledged his flaws like no other President before him.  I suspect Biden will do the same.  And the Waffle House library cafe at the Trump Presidential Library will be the site of the most violent bowel movement I will ever have as an adult.  They're gonna have to drop napalm on it to get the filth out.  

LBJ was a racist that personally passed the most consequential civil rights legislation for racial minorities in this country's modern history, surpassed only by Reconstruction Amendments (which he actually put teeth into). 

Woodrow Wilson was a racist that purged the Federal Government of black people and honestly would have reinstated slavery if he could.

[YGIFS 19450]

59 minutes ago, Js1 said:

Such as? 

I don’t know, I’m not on the steering committee.  I’m on the “how much heroin can I do without dying after Trump loses again” committee and honestly we’re really fucking busy right now.  Gotta re-learn the whole fucking metric system.  So go your thing.  

[Js1 85320]

4 minutes ago, YGIFS said:

I don’t know, I’m not on the steering committee.  I’m on the “how much heroin can I do without dying after Trump loses again” committee and honestly we’re really fucking busy right now.  Gotta re-learn the whole fucking metric system.  So go your thing.  

I just don’t know what you mean about having a plan. The plan is that Joe Biden wins in November. Either he finishes his term or he doesn’t and then Harris is president if he doesn’t finish the term. If he finishes the term, it’s an open race in 2028. If he doesn’t, Harris is the frontrunner due to being the sitting President. Going to be very difficult to primary the sitting first female President unless she has Bush 2008 approvals

If it’s an open race, the options are pretty good across the country. 

Edited February 21 by Js1

[Underdog 28623]

Biden could be wheelchair bound with a drool cup under his chin, I’m still voting for him. 

[YGIFS 19450]

Me too.  The team he’s surrounded himself is his best attribute.  But I understand why broadcasting that more could undercut him. Y’all will be fine 2032 and beyond.  Bad news is that’s 8 years away and we’ll probably be living underground.  

[The Original Greaser Bob 2830]

2 hours ago, Snake Diggity said:

Biden needs a good SOTU.  Then he needs to stay away from cameras and microphones as much as possible until September, at which point he needs 70 days where he campaigns like hell without looking like he’s on death’s door.   If that happens without the economy tanking, he should win.

I'm thinking there are some other big landmines.

[Satchel 6938]

How Biden has led the country and the free world is all the more impressive when one considers he is governing during one of the most difficult times in recent history. He took over on the heels of a concluding pandemic, and even as he worked to stabilize the economy, Biden has been confronted with a series of political conundrums. To those of us on the sidelines, decisions that seem simple are anything but. Israel versus Gaza, an intractable border crisis, the unrelenting assault on democracy and supporting institutions at home and abroad, and anti intellectual malaise that has taken hold in much of the country, an ever encroaching fascism. Who ever thought we’d see the return of polio and measles? And through it all, Biden has persevered. 

[Js1 85320]

Like Trump would touch some common folk’s phone 

[Bozo_Casanova 26451]

 

[Biff Tannen 45678]

9 hours ago, The Original Greaser Bob said:

those folks didn't have the balls to try to run anyway, so here we are.

 

This gets overlooked with the "centrist" voters who are mad at "the Dems" for not running someone other than Biden.  

[StassneyHorn 6575]

6 hours ago, Satchel said:

How Biden has led the country and the free world is all the more impressive when one considers he is governing during one of the most difficult times in recent history. He took over on the heels of a concluding pandemic

Gotta stop you here, you aren’t serious with this are you? Vaccinations only started December 2020

[StassneyHorn 6575]

Positive news that could put a big crack in the remaining resistance to Medicaid expansion. Mississippi leaders look to take it head on over Tate Reeves verbal farts

https://mississippitoday.org/2024/02/21/legislative-leaders-medicaid-expansion-tate-reeves/

Kansas ignored the Governor again last month.

Alabama Governor Kay Ivey would feel a ton of pressure from this, I believe she is term limited.

Georgia is twiddling thumbs on a work requirement.

 

[mchookem 16330]

yeah i feel like he took over in the depths of the pandemic, not anywhere near the conclusion 🤨

[Biff Tannen 45678]

22 minutes ago, StassneyHorn said:

Gotta stop you here, you aren’t serious with this are you? Vaccinations only started December 2020

 

10 minutes ago, mchookem said:

yeah i feel like he took over in the depths of the pandemic, not anywhere near the conclusion 🤨

Clearly he was insinuating something similar. Don’t get caught up in semantics. The past four years have been a shit show no matter how you slice when the pandemic “ended”. 

[Satchel 6938]

Just heard that should GOP House goons persist in advancing a Biden impeachment, they could be charged criminally if they use known Russian Intel to interfere with the election.

[Neonmoon 38129]

6 hours ago, Satchel said:

Just heard that should GOP House goons persist in advancing a Biden impeachment, they could be charged criminally if they use known Russian Intel to interfere with the election.

God I hope so. Source?

[Hugo Stiglitz 23367]

9 hours ago, Satchel said:

Just heard that should GOP House goons persist in advancing a Biden impeachment, they could be charged criminally if they use known Russian Intel to interfere with the election.

This will not happen.  Who is going to charge them? Merrick Garland’s DOJ? LOL

These house GOP goons have been propagating Kremlin narratives and talking points consequence free since the Obama administration.  However, it’s also the same stuff you hear on Alex Jones or Fox News which conveniently  gives the GOP goons and the Kremlin plausible deniability.  

[The Original Greaser Bob 2830]

Dark Brandon, aka Hollywood Cowboy.

 

[Satchel 6938]

8 hours ago, Neonmoon said:

God I hope so. Source?

Congress Goldman who later said House Republicans could be criminally charged:

https://x.com/danielsgoldman/status/1760300849098613113?s=20

[Longhorn_Fan68 33869]

On 2/21/2024 at 10:36 AM, David Dennison said:

It's sticking because he looks, sounds, and acts like an old man, which he is.

yes, but as best as I can tell, that's ALL they have. best president in my lifetime hands down and I went from voting GWB to Obama. I wasn't born a libruhl but living under the GOP for my 45 years here has made me one.

[StassneyHorn 6575]

Dow Jones and S&P 500 close at an all time high with unemployment at record lows and longest period at sub 4.

Allow me to be the first to congratulate my president on building the greatest economy the world and the US has ever witnessed.

[mchookem 16330]

On 2/21/2024 at 9:36 AM, David Dennison said:

It's sticking because he looks, sounds, and acts like an old man, which he is.

 

[Hugo Stiglitz 23367]

WE LANDED ON THE MOON!

[Dutchrudder 11139]

SIAP, but this is something else. Both of these ladies are speaking out more since Navalny's death, and will likely wind up falling out of a window in the next 6 months if they continue to fight for justice in Russia. 

 

 

[hobbes2702 13033]

21 hours ago, BeardIP said:

Bill Clinton was the best.

[Nice Guy Eddie 13511]

16 hours ago, StassneyHorn said:

Dow Jones and S&P 500 close at an all time high with unemployment at record lows and longest period at sub 4.

Allow me to be the first to congratulate my president on building the greatest economy the world and the US has ever witnessed.

Unfortunately Biden has to walk a tight rope when taking a victory lap about the economy since many are not participating the great economy.

[Boss Hogg 808]

 

 

[hobbes2702 13033]

Well we know he’s packing heat. 

[StassneyHorn 6575]

1 hour ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

Unfortunately Biden has to walk a tight rope when taking a victory lap about the economy since many are not participating the great economy.

No he doesn’t. And he shouldn’t.

If you think Republicans would sideline themselves from bragging on this economy because some lube techs who will vote for them anyway can’t afford a vacation, ever, they wouldn’t. 
 

Real life is not Reddit where bike messengers with computer science PhDs complain about not having starter homes in walkable neighborhoods in Santa Monica after demanding loan forgiveness

Edited February 23 by StassneyHorn

[Longhorn_Fan68 33869]

28 minutes ago, Boss Hogg said:

 

 

adds a whole new dimension to jilling.

[David Dennison 18856]

1 hour ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

Unfortunately Biden has to walk a tight rope when taking a victory lap about the economy since many are not participating the great economy.

Do you even trickle down, bro?

[Longhorn_Fan68 33869]

2 hours ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

many are not participating the great economy.

What does this even mean? Are the super wealthy no longer able to raid the coffers? awww, poor them

Edited February 23 by Longhorn_Fan68

[Guest]

37 minutes ago, Boss Hogg said:

 

 

Release the tapes Joe! What are you hiding?!

[Red Five 40856]

Here come the attacks from the right about how Joe has to have sex with his wife to have "good sex". 

[Longhorn_Fan68 33869]

1 minute ago, Red Five said:

Here come the attacks from the right about how Joe has to have sex with his wife to have "good sex". 

I don't know how, but I'm sure it'll be dumber than that.

[Horn Dog 9835]

5 minutes ago, Red Five said:

Here come the attacks from the right about how Joe has to have sex with his wife to have "good sex". 

 

3 minutes ago, Longhorn_Fan68 said:

I don't know how, but I'm sure it'll be dumber than that.

“Next on Fox.  Joe Biden CLAIMS he and Jill are having “good sex”, but they have not had a baby in decades!  Are they having serial abortions or are they having recreational sex against God’s will??  Our panel of Ted Nugget and Vanilla Ice will discuss after this special word from Time Share International.”

[jimmyjazz 45913]

Jill could get pregnant by Joe if they were right with God.

[StassneyHorn 6575]

If this story is real, I’m flagging this thread for a name change to 

“Pushing Rope: Joe Biden 2024 thread “

[babysdaddy 2721]

"Joe Biden 2024 thread- makin' the booty clap"

[StassneyHorn 6575]

Ahem…

Dow Jones and S&P 500 close again at an all time high with unemployment at record lows and longest period at sub 4.

Allow me to be the first to congratulate my president on jack-hammering his way to the greatest economy the world and the US has ever witnessed.