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47 minutes ago, deech said:

I guess I understand the pardons for the reasons discussed above.   I still think they are a bad look - because they are obviously.  Ultimately, the issue with the pardons for me (same with his son's) is not that they are warranted.  It's the Dems waiting too long to go full on war.   Slow rolling the prosecutions of Trump led us to Cannon who could then intentionally slow-play them until this election and here we are today.  January 6th was an act of war and the Dems thought they could steer for the high road and win the election and this would all go away.  If everyone thinks you are weaponizing the DOJ anyway - do it from day one before this stooge comes in and truly weaponizes it.  

You know what else is a "bad look?" The US electing a 34-times convicted, twice-impeached felon to the highest political office in the world.

Fuck Trump and his boot-licking sycophantic ghouls sideways.

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1 hour ago, David Dennison said:

Yawn. The moronic American voter just re-elected a twice impeached convicted felon.

Sorry if I don't give a fuck who Joe Biden pardons on his way out the door.

 

Best diversionary tactic of all time. Accuse your opponent of the very thing you intend to do yourself. 

No one would care about these pardons if the Democrats had not spent 4 years claiming Trump was a dictator and a threat to democracy only to, be a threat to democracy themselves. 

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4 hours ago, jimmyjazz said:

I'm all for it.  Guys like Fauci spent decades in public service, with no malice whatsoever.  Donald Trump's witch hunt fantasies are too much to risk.

This is obviously the only correct take and anyone who thinks differently should be pelted with rotten produce.

As for Biden, fuck him for this:

Fucking loser bullshit. This asshole was never equipped to do what needed to be done, he doomed the Republic, and this is how he goes out. What a disgrace.

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6 minutes ago, Newy25 said:

 

Best diversionary tactic of all time. Accuse your opponent of the very thing you intend to do yourself. 

No one would care about these pardons if the Democrats had not spent 4 years claiming Trump was a dictator and a threat to democracy only to, be a threat to democracy themselves. 

You are 180 degrees from reality. 

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1 hour ago, David Dennison said:

Yawn. The moronic American voter just re-elected a twice impeached convicted felon.

Sorry if I don't give a fuck who Joe Biden pardons on his way out the door.

Exactly. Twice impeached. And there was no politics involved at all. Trump was snooping around Ukraine when our government has done nothing wrong there. We never needed an investigation.

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Just now, Navin R. Johnson said:

Exactly. Twice impeached. And there was no politics involved at all. Trump was snooping around Ukraine when our government has done nothing wrong there. We never needed an investigation.

You do understand that impeachment is a wholly political process, right?

 

Troll less. 

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On 1/19/2025 at 11:34 AM, Bullneck said:
On 1/17/2025 at 7:59 PM, Bullneck said:

Biden was a damn good president.  

It's the American people that need to be graded.

I see Incred and Rex have logged into their socks.  

But you don't need me telling you what's up. Trump will save you soon!!

Huh?  I don’t have a sock. Biden was not a damned good president. And, Trump won’t save anything. Both can be true. 

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4 minutes ago, Rex Kramer said:

Huh?  I don’t have a sock. Biden was not a damned good president. And, Trump won’t save anything. Both can be true. 

That's what you say today. Give it a few years. 

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7 minutes ago, Bullneck said:

That's what you say today. Give it a few years. 

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Biden was an excellent president. Inflation was not his fault. The tensions with Russia were trumps fault. Under Biden most Americans were doing not great but we can’t expect great things when we have so many trump radicals trying to overthrow the government. 

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9 minutes ago, Navin R. Johnson said:

Biden was an excellent president. Inflation was not his fault. The tensions with Russia were trumps fault. Under Biden most Americans were doing not great but we can’t expect great things when we have so many trump radicals trying to overthrow the government. 

People say this and it would have maybe been true had he not just speed bumped our speed run to oligarchy. He is not going to be remembered well by history. 

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Just now, immamac said:

People say this and it would have maybe been true had he not just speed bumped our speed run to oligarchy. He is not going to be remembered well by history. 

The oligarchs under Biden were much more preferable, I’ll agree with that. Why can’t we go back to when twitter and facebook were not oligarchs and they could censor speech I disagree with. Is that too much to ask?

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13 minutes ago, Satchel said:

By whom?

The majority of people and presidential historians. He’s not even thought of highly here except by people trying to defiantly puff their chests out, ignoring all fair criticisms.  That is very telling. 

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14 minutes ago, Navin R. Johnson said:

Biden was an excellent president. Inflation was not his fault. The tensions with Russia were trumps fault. Under Biden most Americans were doing not great but we can’t expect great things when we have so many trump radicals trying to overthrow the government. 

Got to be doing a bit. 

2 minutes ago, Navin R. Johnson said:

The oligarchs under Biden were much more preferable, I’ll agree with that. Why can’t we go back to when twitter and facebook were not oligarchs and they could censor speech I disagree with. Is that too much to ask?

Yes. Yes you are. 

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31 minutes ago, Navin R. Johnson said:

Biden was an excellent president. Inflation was not his fault. The tensions with Russia were trumps fault. Under Biden most Americans were doing not great but we can’t expect great things when we have so many trump radicals trying to overthrow the government. 

Presidents often are saddled with problems that are from the previous administration or external forces, but they can still be judged on how well they handled the crisis. In my opinion, Biden deprioritized battling the inflation and contributed to it. The opposite argument could be that he was trying to save the economy from COVID but inflation, or the lack of dealing with it, is on his watch. 

And I don't care about arguments that are, "but Trump..."

I give Biden A+ on many other areas especially in helping to show what a paper tiger Russia is. In the past, the Soviets could put a force almost anywhere in the world and perhaps win. Today they can't beat a much smaller country literally on their doorstep. They're a nobody.

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3 minutes ago, Longhorn_Fan68 said:

If you think Biden was a failure wait until you see what the next 4 years brings. Holy shit.

That’s what I’ve been saying. He’s literally going to weaponize the justice system against his political opponents. Can you even imagine?

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Joe Biden was the right man for the moment in 2020 and was on track to easily be the best president of my lifetime for the first half of his term.

He may still be at least domestically, we're going to have to see what the Republicans do to his platform over the next couple of years and what the long term impact of the surviving pieces is (I think a surprising amount of the IRA is going to remain intact). Things pretty clearly came off the rails in 2023 though, and between that and his age he was absolutely the wrong man for the moment in 2024. His handling of the war in Gaza and lack of coherent immigration policy that ultimately led to a capitulation to Trumpist policy, both of which came to a head in the final year and change, is a stain on his legacy and on our country.

Do I think Democrats would have won if he stepped aside earlier? I honestly don't know. Post-COVID inflation has taken out an impressive volume of political incumbents. But had he announced his intention to step aside after a strong showing in the midterms the entire race would, or at least could have been reframed in a way Harris just never had a chance to accomplish given the hand she was dealt.

The combo of his age and the stresses of the presidency has obviously been rough on him. Hearing him speak now vs the 2020 election, the difference is stark. I wish him a happy and healthy retirement surrounded by family, but I fear we're going to be wondering what could have been for a long time.

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1 minute ago, Navin R. Johnson said:

That’s what I’ve been saying. He’s literally going to weaponize the justice system against his political opponents. Can you even imagine?

We get the stupid bit already. Shut the fuck up.

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3 minutes ago, Rex Kramer said:

Not. Mutually. Exclusive. 

not really sure which boutique issue you take exception with to ascertain failure. but from all the howling monkeys these are the things he was judged on and caused him to lose the election. we'll park this here  and other places and check back from time to time
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Biden literally cured COVID

Passed Inflation Reduction Act, Chips and Science Act, bipartisan Infrastructure bill, first gun control bill in 53628153 years, and then pantsed and exposed Russia’s baby dick to the entire world. The effects of infrastructure law will be felt for much longer than any snap judgement on his legacy by armchair historians.

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11 minutes ago, Longhorn_Fan68 said:

not really sure which boutique issue you take exception with to ascertain failure. but from all the howling monkeys these are the things he was judged on and caused him to lose the election. we'll park this here  and other places and check back from time to time
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He let Trump win. He got a lot of good shit done, but he failed the most important job. 

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1 minute ago, wildcat09 said:

He let Trump win. He got a lot of good shit done, but he failed the most important job. 

do you really believe that? what could he have done differently? anoint himself king? he was told he was going to lose if he ran again and he was also told Kamala could win. so he stepped aside for the good of the country. trump won (apparently?). I don't see how that is Biden's fault, seeing as he's only one vote.

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14 minutes ago, Longhorn_Fan68 said:

not really sure which boutique issue you take exception with to ascertain failure. but from all the howling monkeys these are the things he was judged on and caused him to lose the election. we'll park this here  and other places and check back from time to time
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That’s a dumbass graphic. That inflation is only at 2.9% totally ignores what occurred with inflation the entirety of Biden’s term, and his utter inability to communicate what he (the Fed) did to combat it and plans for his second term to continue to combat it. 

Stock market and job market are strong. I strongly suspect inflation will be kept in check except for gas prices, which will be an ongoing Trump battle. I also expect unemployment to go up. 

So what?  Trump is a buffoon. And, so was Biden. The constant comparison to Trump is tiring. I like neither of them. 

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3 minutes ago, Longhorn_Fan68 said:

do you really believe that? what could he have done differently? anoint himself king? he was told he was going to lose if he ran again and he was also told Kamala could win. so he stepped aside for the good of the country. trump won (apparently?). I don't see how that is Biden's fault, seeing as he's only one vote.

He never should have considered running. He totally fucked the entire Democratic Party, and those running the party let it happen. Kamala would never have been the candidate with a primary. You cannot possibly consider his handling of this anything other than totally  ruining his legacy. And you partisanly distill it down to “not his fault”. Come the fuck on. 

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1 minute ago, Rex Kramer said:

That’s a dumbass graphic. That inflation is only at 2.9% totally ignores what occurred with inflation the entirety of Biden’s term, and his utter inability to communicate what he (the Fed) did to combat it and plans for his second term to continue to combat it. 

Stock market and job market are strong. I strongly suspect inflation will be kept in check except for gas prices, which will be an ongoing Trump battle. I also expect unemployment to go up. 

So what?  Trump is a buffoon. And, so was Biden. The constant comparison to Trump is tiring. I like neither of them. 

and this is why many have a hard time taking you seriously. were you in a coma his first term? where do you think the inflation Biden was dealing with came from? there's way too much recency bias at play here but those shitting on Biden now will be singing his praises and yearning for these times in a couple of years. 

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3 minutes ago, Longhorn_Fan68 said:

and this is why many have a hard time taking you seriously. were you in a coma his first term? where do you think the inflation Biden was dealing with came from? there's way too much recency bias at play here but those shitting on Biden now will be singing his praises and yearning for these times in a couple of years. 

I know why rampant inflation occurred. That is an entirely different argument, and one I’ll have with you. Here’s something we can likely agree on: it largely wasnt his fault. 

however, that graphic showing some current inflation metric is overly simplistic and frankly intentionally hides the massive inflation on his watch. It doesn’t tell the story you want it to. 

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In ordinary times, Joe Biden would go down as a very good president owing to the infrastructure act, the CHIPS Act, and the inflation-reduction act.  But these were not ordinary times.  Biden treated them as they they were ordinary times, but they weren't.

Joe Biden never had the first clue what it was going to take to defend the Republic.  So he nominated people like Merrick Garland.  And in so doing, Biden failed in his foremost job duty: to preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution of the United States.

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4 hours ago, Firemans4Horn said:

Biden looks 125 years old in recent pictures. Whatever close friends that told him he could run for reelection should be sentenced in The Hague.

Right, because Biden’s appearance is what deserves criticism.

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Just now, WhatTheBuck said:

Right, because Biden’s appearance is what deserves criticism.

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have you seen the median voter? They have mashed potatoes for brains. 
 

Biden looks old as shit, and his brain processing looks older than that. He melted down in his only debate against that orange clown (which he shouldn’t have been subjected to if anyone close to him actually gave a shit about Joe Biden as a person). 

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2 hours ago, immamac said:

People say this and it would have maybe been true had he not just speed bumped our speed run to oligarchy. He is not going to be remembered well by history. 

Speed bumps slow down people who want to slow down.  

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1 hour ago, Rex Kramer said:

I know why rampant inflation occurred. That is an entirely different argument, and one I’ll have with you. Here’s something we can likely agree on: it largely wasnt his fault. 

however, that graphic showing some current inflation metric is overly simplistic and frankly intentionally hides the massive inflation on his watch. It doesn’t tell the story you want it to. 

It doesn't hide anything.  Current inflation is 2.9%, down from a peak of 6.6% in 2022.  Anyone too stupid to understand "current" vs "peak" should have their vote taken away, but here we are.

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1 hour ago, Rex Kramer said:

I know why rampant inflation occurred. That is an entirely different argument, and one I’ll have with you. Here’s something we can likely agree on: it largely wasnt his fault. 

however, that graphic showing some current inflation metric is overly simplistic and frankly intentionally hides the massive inflation on his watch. It doesn’t tell the story you want it to. 

It’s just saying what inflation is right fucking now as the bitch in chief takes over. Thats it. Is that confusing?

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1 minute ago, jimmyjazz said:

It doesn't hide anything.  Current inflation is 2.9%, down from a peak of 6.6% in 2022.  Anyone too stupid to understand "current" vs "peak" should have their vote taken away, but here we are.

It conceals it from voters that don’t know any better.  Like 2.9% currently makes all the inflationary action of ‘22-‘23 nonexistent. It’s not like prices have come down from the peak.  They’re now just accelerating at a slower rate - growing from a high point because of the last several years. Inflation is not a metric you can point to at a point in time and say because it’s low on last day in office, Biden succeeded there over his 4 years. He assuredly did not. 

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1 minute ago, SubliminalHorn said:

It’s just saying what inflation is right fucking now as the bitch in chief takes over. Thats it. Is that confusing?

Not at all. But it provides no context and makes it appear like a Biden strength. It tells you nothing. 

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Just now, Rex Kramer said:

It conceals it from voters that don’t know any better.  Like 2.9% currently makes all the inflationary action of ‘22-‘23 nonexistent. It’s not like prices have come down from the peak.

WTF?  Nobody said prices were coming DOWN.  You seem a lot closer to the idiots who don't understand inflation than those who do.

Guess what . . . prices rise over time.  There was a day when you could order a house from Sears for $700 (roughly the mean annual salary) and have your local handyman build it for you.  

2 minutes ago, Rex Kramer said:

Not at all. But it provides no context and makes it appear like a Biden strength. It tells you nothing. 

It's a fucking line in the sand so when shit goes south again under Trump we get to point fingers like you morons do all the time.

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Just now, jimmyjazz said:

WTF?  Nobody said prices were coming DOWN.  You seem a lot closer to the idiots who don't understand inflation than those who do.

Guess what . . . prices rise over time.  There was a day when you could order a house from Sears for $700 (roughly the mean annual salary) and have your local handyman build it for you.  

I understand it well. I don’t think the average American does. Deflation is more dangerous than inflation. I shouldn’t have made that point because it detracts from the conversation. Sorry. 

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3 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

It's a fucking line in the sand so when shit goes south again under Trump we get to point fingers like you morons do all the time.

I don’t point fingers, and I don’t compare presidencies, particularly one that includes fucking Trump. I mean if you want to point fingers, be my guest. Though I wouldn’t use inflation as some sort of relative strength for Biden because that would be monumentally stupid. 

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3 hours ago, Newy25 said:

 

Best diversionary tactic of all time. Accuse your opponent of the very thing you intend to do yourself. 

No one would care about these pardons if the Democrats had not spent 4 years claiming Trump was a dictator and a threat to democracy only to, be a threat to democracy themselves. 

Really, just fuck you.  Fuck your own face.

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6 minutes ago, Rex Kramer said:

I don’t point fingers, and I don’t compare presidencies, particularly one that includes fucking Trump. I mean if you want to point fingers, be my guest. Though I wouldn’t use inflation as some sort of relative strength for Biden because that would be monumentally stupid. 

I don't think it's a Biden "strength".  I think inflation was bound to happen given the stimulus etc. during the pandemic.  I don't even blame Trump for that.  It happened worldwide.

I do credit Biden for at least some of our quicker recovery than most Western countries.  

That said, I don't think it's important (except in a political vote-getting sense) to pander to the uniformed.  When people can't grasp the very simple concept of price inflation and consequences thereof, I just write them off.

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