Joe Biden 2024 thread - Dark Brandon Where Art Thou?

[David Dennison 18824]

8 minutes ago, gmr548 said:

I know that and agree. But there's a difference between not tuning in and not knowing at this juncture that it is going to be Donald Trump.

If you have any kind of polling or other data to prove me wrong I'd love to see it, because it would materially change my perspective.

https://www.businessinsider.com/americans-are-in-denial-that-trump-will-likely-be-the-gop-nominee-2024-1?op=1

https://www.cnn.com/2024/01/12/politics/trump-biden-2024-campaign/index.html

Edited February 9 by David Dennison

[gmr548 16569]

4 minutes ago, David Dennison said:

https://www.businessinsider.com/americans-are-in-denial-that-trump-will-likely-be-the-gop-nominee-2024-1?op=1

https://www.cnn.com/2024/01/12/politics/trump-biden-2024-campaign/index.html

TIL 45% of Democratic leaning adults are fucking morons.

[Js1 85223]

5 minutes ago, wildcat09 said:

Yeah, they’ll keep this shit on the front page for as long as they possibly can, then they’ll bring it back up in October, all the while they’ll be caping for Trump.

Yep. Trump claimed Nikki Haley was responsible for security on J6. “Well we all knew what he meant, okay?”

[wildcat09 29324]

I’m so fucking pissed at Garland over this shit. You can’t go appointing a fucking Fed Soc goblin to investigate Biden just so you look like you’re adhering to norms. This is the type of colossally stupid fuckup that an imperial Japanese official would be expected to commit seppuku over.

[David Dennison 18824]

22 minutes ago, wildcat09 said:

I’m so fucking pissed at Garland over this shit. You can’t go appointing a fucking Fed Soc goblin to investigate Biden just so you look like you’re adhering to norms. This is the type of colossally stupid fuckup that an imperial Japanese official would be expected to commit seppuku over.

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2024/02/special-counsels-devastating-charge-against-biden/677396/

 

[fattyflattie 4639]

29 minutes ago, gmr548 said:

TIL 45% of Democratic leaning adults are fucking morons.

Today?  Torbush. 

[David Dennison 18824]

3 minutes ago, fattyflattie said:

Today?  Torbush. 

Have you checked the shallow end of the pool in which you swim lately?

[fattyflattie 4639]

35 minutes ago, David Dennison said:

Have you checked the shallow end of the pool in which you swim lately?

Its definitely making it more difficult for formulate talking points about American supremacy in a few aspects. 

[Chuckie Finster 22688]

Its definitely making it more difficult for formulate talking points about American supremacy in a few aspects. 

Don’t worry, your boy took care of that years ago before Joe ever set foot in the Oval Office.

[fattyflattie 4639]

1 minute ago, Chuckie Finster said:

Don’t worry, your boy took care of that years ago before Joe ever set foot in the Oval Office.

My boy?  No, the guy in my party.  The name and face matters not one bit.  

[Dahobbs 17511]

2 minutes ago, fattyflattie said:

My boy?  No, the guy in my party.  The name and face matters not one bit.  

Yes, we know that is how you vote. 

[fattyflattie 4639]

Just now, Dahobbs said:

Yes, we know that is how you vote. 

Not everyone, apparently 

[fattyflattie 4639]

Ah fuck, buffet closed. 

[TexArcher 37745]

2 hours ago, Js1 said:

This is also February. The election is in 9 months. A lot is going to happen in the next 9 months 

Like Trump having a stroke while walking down a flight of stairs eating a cheeseburger, so that the fall causes him to choke and break his neck simultaneously?

[Horn Dog 9789]

Have any of you concern trolls ever been deposed by opposing counsel?  I have, its not a causal conversation, its nerve wracking and you are on pure defense to make sure anything you say won’t be used against you.  It fucks with your recall and makes you second guess everything you are thinking much more than you expect.  
 

Charlie Strong was so flustered during his deposition that he couldn’t remember his own zip code or his own player’s name.  Charlie may be a dumb ass but no one accused him of dementia.  Add to that the fact that this deposition occured on same day Biden was briefed on the Hamas attack on top of the normal presidential pressures and who knows what his mental state was that day. Obviously Biden is not 50yr old Biden but a few “I don’t recall” responses during a hostile deposition does prove dementia for fucks sake.

[David Dennison 18824]

The only way to combat the political fallout from this is to get him out on the campaign trail.

[cabowabo 4484]

The only way to combat the political fallout from this is to get him out on the campaign trail.

Lulz

[Voldemort86 2259]

4 hours ago, David Dennison said:

The only way to combat the political fallout from this is to get him out on the campaign trail.

Relax….. it’s still early February. It’s now a Friday.  Could be out of the news cycle by Monday.

[BehoId, The Underminer! 11669]

Either a new news cycle needs to happen or Biden needs to figure out some way to look relaxed in a conversation.  Go on Fallon or something. 

[NoRagrets 1125]

He needs to drop out and let that guy from Minnesota take the nod.

[Guest]

4 hours ago, Voldemort86 said:

Relax….. it’s still early February. It’s now a Friday.  Could be out of the news cycle by Monday.

 

14 minutes ago, BehoId, The Underminer! said:

Either a new news cycle needs to happen or Biden needs to figure out some way to look relaxed in a conversation.  Go on Fallon or something. 

It's also the Friday before Super Bowl Sunday.

That said, this "Biden is old" angle isn't going away (and he isn't getting younger). 

[Biff Tannen 45647]

11 hours ago, Js1 said:

This is also February. The election is in 9 months. A lot is going to happen in the next 9 months 

Hamburger from heaven?

[Guest]

It is wild that Trump is responsible for sexual assault... so far... but, well, Biden is old so really that's the big story.

[Js1 85223]

14 minutes ago, NoRagrets said:

He needs to drop out and let that guy from Minnesota take the nod.

Yeah just what we need, another vanity campaign from a grifter 

[cabowabo 4484]

I'll feel sorry for Biden. Shame on Jill for allowing this to happen. She's a doctor for fuck's sake. One would think she'd stop this and allow the old man go out with grace.

[troph 24763]

9 hours ago, TexArcher said:

Like Trump having a stroke while walking down a flight of stairs eating a cheeseburger, so that the fall causes him to choke and break his neck simultaneously?

I mean I was thinking he’d just be convicted of at least 1 out of 90 felonies he’s charged with but legally incapacitated is probably just as good as legally incarcerated in my book.

[troph 24763]

Biden is old as fuck and still one of the most effective presidents in modern history. People on both sides are dumb. 

[Red Five 40777]

If he wins reelection he'll be president until February 2029. Five years from now. I don't think that's.... realistic. And yes I understand all of the advantages of incumbency, etc. It's just a tough spot to be in right now.

[Js1 85223]

9 hours ago, David Dennison said:

The only way to combat the political fallout from this is to get him out on the campaign trail.

The dude is out there talking to people, touring factories, holding events.

But you know damn well those don't get covered because Trump. 

[Js1 85223]

4 minutes ago, Red Five said:

If he wins reelection he'll be president until February 2029. Five years from now. I don't think that's.... realistic. And yes I understand all of the advantages of incumbency, etc. It's just a tough spot to be in right now.

*January 2029, but yes

America hasn't had a president die in office (naturally) since FDR. We seem overdue.  Neither of them should statistically make it to 2029. 

Edit: American, the last 2 times, came together as soon as the president died.  Truman had an 87% approval rating in 1945.  LBJ was at 78% in 1963.  Wild times - that would never happen today.  

Edited February 9 by Js1

['stache 21786]

15 hours ago, Dahobbs said:

I've actually heard Biden speak. He is clearly plenty sharp and has great responses to questions. Giving the refusal to press charges, I'm quite confident the memory issues stated in the report are solely there as a red meat for Republican voters. 

This. So fucking transparent.

[ChuckNorrisActionJeans 2662]

and as to the substance -- there's evidence he "willfully retained AND disclosed materials" but, ya know, just not enough to take it to trial? Bullshit 

[Js1 85223]

The whole “Biden is old and senile” playbook in 2020 was pretty shattered because the bar becomes so low, he cleared it in every debate and town hall. That’s just what’s happening again

”oh they said he’s senile and forgetful and a drooling poop diaper baby and yet, he was coherent and knowledgeable and didn’t die on stage”

[David Dennison 18824]

2 minutes ago, Js1 said:

The whole “Biden is old and senile” playbook in 2020 was pretty shattered because the bar becomes so low, he cleared it in every debate and town hall. That’s just what’s happening again

”oh they said he’s senile and forgetful and a drooling poop diaper baby and yet, he was coherent and knowledgeable and didn’t die on stage”

Nevertheless, this report is an own goal brought on by the infuriating Democratic impulse to stay above politics when dealing with an opponent who knows better.

[jimmyjazz 45828]

1 hour ago, Red Five said:

If he wins reelection he'll be president until February 2029. Five years from now. I don't think that's.... realistic. And yes I understand all of the advantages of incumbency, etc. It's just a tough spot to be in right now.

It may not feel realistic, but if you go to the Social Security website they have a life expectancy calculator based on gender and birthdate.  For the two likely candidates, they are both "expected" to live beyond another 4 year term:

Joe Biden:  8.2 years

Donald Trump:  10.2 years

 

Yes, this is purely statistical and doesn't reflect the health (or lack thereof) of either man.  Just some food for thought.

[yoladu 4089]

Next time the Right brings up the "Biden controls the Justice Department" talking point, bring this up.

That report was a political hit job.

 

That being said, I wish Biden had just said directly and concisely last night: "I should not have had classified documents stored in my residence. It was a mistake on my part and I take responsibility for that."

 

 

 

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Edited February 9 by yoladu

[Red Five 40777]

3 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

It may not feel realistic, but if you go to the Social Security website they have a life expectancy calculator based on gender and birthdate.  For the two likely candidates, they are both "expected" to live beyond another 4 year term:

Joe Biden:  8.2 years

Donald Trump:  10.2 years

 

Yes, this is purely statistical and doesn't reflect the health (or lack thereof) of either man.  Just some food for thought.

Yeah, but I didn't mean dropping dead in office. I meant more being able to handle the duties of the job. He has aged a lot between 78 and 81. 86 just isn't going to be feasible, IMO.

But, whatareyougonnado.

[BehoId, The Underminer! 11669]

8 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

It may not feel realistic, but if you go to the Social Security website they have a life expectancy calculator based on gender and birthdate.  For the two likely candidates, they are both "expected" to live beyond another 4 year term:

Joe Biden:  8.2 years

Donald Trump:  10.2 years

 

Yes, this is purely statistical and doesn't reflect the health (or lack thereof) of either man.  Just some food for thought.

I always like this website. Put in Male 81 and see the distribution of deaths after it.

 

https://flowingdata.com/2015/09/23/years-you-have-left-to-live-probably/#:~:text=As expected%2C the probability that,zero relatively quickly after that.

[Js1 85223]

The DOJ’s comments on the report will get overlooked easily bc it doesnt fit the narrative 

[Longhorn_Fan68 33857]

11 hours ago, TexArcher said:

Like Trump having a stroke while walking down a flight of stairs eating a cheeseburger, so that the fall causes him to choke and break his neck simultaneously?

keep going, I'm almost there

[David Dennison 18824]

15 minutes ago, Js1 said:

The DOJ’s comments on the report will get overlooked easily bc it doesnt fit the narrative 

This political train wreck could not be more on point for Democrats.

Good job, everyone. Well done.

Edited February 9 by David Dennison

[tx 3 putt 76773]

😂😂😂

 

[SimonBolivar 10957]

4 minutes ago, Longhorn_Fan68 said:

keep going, I'm almost there

I'm doing a research project on the civil religious memories of deceased US presidents, and I wonder if Trump's death will outshine John Tyler's in the public imagination.

Wheeling Daily Intelligencer (VA soon to be WV) 1/24/1862

 

 

[C-Man 27172]

18 minutes ago, Js1 said:

The DOJ’s comments on the report will get overlooked easily bc it doesnt fit the narrative 

Jesus Christ. The MAGATs and GOP'ers in my networks have seized on this so-called "red meat." What a disaster. Bill Barr never would've let something like this happen. When will Democrats learn that "doing the 'right' thing all the time" rarely pays off in the world of US politics. One side is relentless and ruthless. The other is populated by total pussies.

[GopherRock 1765]

3 hours ago, NoRagrets said:

He needs to drop out and let that guy from Minnesota take the nod.

Hubert Humphrey, Gene McCarthy, and Walter Mondale are all dead.

[BehoId, The Underminer! 11669]

6 minutes ago, SimonBolivar said:

I'm doing a research project on the civil religious memories of deceased US presidents, and I wonder if Trump's death will outshine John Tyler's in the public imagination.

Wheeling Daily Intelligencer (VA soon to be WV) 1/24/1862

 

 

only president not buried under a US flag

[6th Street 6373]

Joe needs to stay in the basement until November 

[Chuckie Finster 22688]

19 minutes ago, C-Man said:

Jesus Christ. The MAGATs and GOP'ers in my networks have seized on this so-called "red meat." What a disaster. Bill Barr never would've let something like this happen. When will Democrats learn that "doing the 'right' thing all the time" rarely pays off in the world of US politics. One side is relentless and ruthless. The other is populated by total pussies.

The only thing to remember is that anyone who could be swayed by this report likely has no idea it exists.

A paragraph in a Special Counsel report and a Thursday evening press conference right before Super Bowl weekend is not something on the radar of most Americans, especially 9 months out from the election.

"Biden is too old" may certainly play a role in this election, but it won't be due to the events on this week.

[Red Five 40777]

It will also be easily countered, especially after Trump is a convicted felon. 

"Oh, are you referring to where Biden was exonerated? That's funny, considering his opponent is a convicted felon and was found liable for sexual assault."

[David Dennison 18824]

19 minutes ago, Chuckie Finster said:

The only thing to remember is that anyone who could be swayed by this report likely has no idea it exists.

A paragraph in a Special Counsel report and a Thursday evening press conference right before Super Bowl weekend is not something on the radar of most Americans, especially 9 months out from the election.

"Biden is too old" may certainly play a role in this election, but it won't be due to the events on this week.

Until the NY Times and the rest of the mainstream media give it the old Hillary's emails treatment.

Edited February 9 by David Dennison