USMNT 2024

[Captain Ron 12956]

I wouldn't count out Mexico even if Honduras scored to equalize.

[Braff Zacklin 13672]

3 minutes ago, Captain Ron said:

Never count them out - you knew they were going to get one eventually.

El Tri easily could've scored three by now. 

[Ted Lange 16153]

[Captain Ron 12956]

I don't get what Honduras is doing. They are inviting 100% pressure, they are just asking to get scored on with these tactics.

[LurkingHorn 1074]

3 minutes ago, Captain Ron said:

I don't get what Honduras is doing. They are inviting 100% pressure, they are just asking to get scored on with these tactics.

I just tuned in but that’s certainly what it looks like in the 10 minutes I’ve been watching. Honduras need a miracle goal or this is over imo. 

[Captain Ron 12956]

I also don't get their need to try to walk every ball out, instead of just clearing them out. Given their tactics, just booting them down the field is a lot smarter than what they are doing.

[Braff Zacklin 13672]

That seemed inevitable.

[Captain Ron 12956]

Honduras might as well just go home now. They have been playing incredibly stupid this second half and we destined to concede that goal.

Edited November 20 by Captain Ron

[Captain Ron 12956]

1 hour ago, Braff Zacklin said:

Haha yeah, that confirms my tinfoil hat suspicions. Seeding based on QF point differential when Canada got to play Suriname. LMAO.

Honestly, we scored 4, we scored have the lead on GD. Our back line cost us the top spot.

I would also note that since Mexico can only go thru as 4th place, I don't mind not drawing them in the semis - let Canada deal with them.

[Hagbard Celine 10994]

but the thing is.....  that miracle goal knocks out tri and there is still 10 minutes left....

[Napoleon 8710]

1 hour ago, Captain Ron said:

Wild stat of the day: Messi just assisted on his 58th international goal. That tied him for the international assist record with ...

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Welcome to the big time, Tango Mexican!

Put some respect on the man who’s been there for a decade!

 

58 minutes ago, Hagbard Celine said:

whistles starting

supercomedy guaranteed if catracho score

Are AWAY GOALS still a thing in Nations League?

[Hagbard Celine 10994]

and as it stands, we don't have a decision on the night.....

[Hagbard Celine 10994]

a honduran miracle goal STILL knocks out tri...

2 minutes ago, Napoleon said:

Are AWAY GOALS still a thing in Nations League?

yip

[Captain Ron 12956]

It would be a miracle for them to get a shot. They aren't scoring a goal.

[Captain Ron 12956]

Most fight Honduras has shown all night. 

[Captain Ron 12956]

12 minutes ago, Napoleon said:

Are AWAY GOALS still a thing in Nations League?

 

Not in this tie.

[Braff Zacklin 13672]

Didn't the foul occur a meter outside the box?

  

2 hours ago, Ted Lange said:

Honduras up 2-0 takes on Mexico at 830.   Let’s see how many PKs concacaf gifts El Tri. 

So the answer appears to be one, and it was totally not needed.

[Captain Ron 12956]

1 minute ago, Braff Zacklin said:

Didn't the foul occur a meter outside the box?

  

So the answer appears to be one, and it was totally not needed.

Nah, that was in the box.

 

And Honduras got what they deserved. They played so dumb in the 2nd half. It was like watching Berhalter coach the US.

Edited November 20 by Captain Ron

[Braff Zacklin 13672]

17 minutes ago, Captain Ron said:

Nah, that was in the box.

And Honduras got what they deserved. They played so dumb in the 2nd half. It was like watching Berhalter coach the US.

Ah, I'd walked away and only caught the tail end of the replay. Didn't realize the El Tri player was moving away from goal.

Honduras was dumb from start to finish.  Virtually no effort or intent to score. Not sure why they thought coming in up 2-0 on aggregate would be enough to guarantee them advancement even if they sat back and allowed Mexico to fire at will for the full 90.

[Captain Ron 12956]

Sitting back to let a team fire at will is going to get what you saw tonight - losing 4-0. 

If Honduras wanted to play smart, they would have kept Mexico back and limited their shots. Letting them get off 27 shots was just insane. They also needed to have a much better play for the counter, they had maybe 1 or 2 counters that had any teeth to them.

[Captain Ron 12956]

BTW - as noted, Mexico comes through in 4th place. So the matchups for the Semis are:

Canada-Mexico

USA-Panama

 

The games are to be played at SoFi

[Ted Lange 16153]

Time to pay back Panama for that match this summer.   As in thank them emphatically for getting GGG canned.

[Derka 6376]

 

[Ted Lange 16153]

 

[Captain Ron 12956]

16 hours ago, Derka said:

 

 

Smart man would he do what is necessary to get us a new coach?

 

 

No Weah!!

[ztejas 43741]

Tim Howard apparently said he'd take Brad Guzan of anyone in the pool for a do-or-die game.

[alincoln 2385]

Howard is almost always wrong.  Complete moron

[Firemans4Horn 18302]

1 hour ago, ztejas said:

Tim Howard apparently said he'd take Brad Guzan of anyone in the pool for a do-or-die game.

Brad Guzan, his parents, his wife, his best friends, his children, his pastor; none of them would agree with that dumbass statement.  

[ztejas 43741]

Especially weird because I thought Turner was very good in both legs against JAM.

[Derka 6376]

 

[Ted Lange 16153]

Reyna finally healthy and makes the bench today 

[Jive Turkey 12722]

The Pepi slander on this thread is criminal.  Dude had 2 more goals today for PSV.  The idea that there is anybody even close to Pepi as the #2 striker on this team is laughable.  Balogun and Luuk de Jong both start over Pepi based on reputation alone.  Sure as hell ain’t production, because Pepi is a machine when he plays.  He’s always been our best 9.

 

[Jive Turkey 12722]

My bad.  Game wasn’t over.  Pepi with a hat trick.  Tied for the Golden Boot in the Dutch league even though he only has 4 starts.

 

[Captain Ron 12956]

9 hours ago, Ted Lange said:

Reyna finally healthy and makes the bench today 

Played 12’ + stoppage. It’s something. 

[The Dog 44180]

On 11/19/2024 at 1:24 PM, The Dog said:

Pepi needs to start—either he needs to find a way to start at PSV or he needs to move.

 

Shut up you idiot! Pepi is doing just fine!

[PittsburghTiger 6239]

On 11/20/2024 at 6:38 PM, Derka said:

 

It's a damned shame that the last guy was such a fucking moron!

[Captain Ron 12956]

The damn shame is that the federation not only thought "We can go with an American coach" but that they did it TWICE!!! The second time after said coach proved that he was in WAY over his head.

I said it on another site, but we are now well past the point where American coaches outside of a select few will be able to take this team to the next level. I hope that this time under Poch shows the USSF that we need to play a style that takes advantage of our talent in a way that allows us to go toe to toe with anyone and we can't settle for American coaches unless they are tactically diverse.
 

[LurkingHorn 1074]

8 minutes ago, Captain Ron said:

The damn shame is that the federation not only thought "We can go with an American coach" but that they did it TWICE!!! The second time after said coach proved that he was in WAY over his head.

I said it on another site, but we are now well past the point where American coaches outside of a select few will be able to take this team to the next level. I hope that this time under Poch shows the USSF that we need to play a style that takes advantage of our talent in a way that allows us to go toe to toe with anyone and we can't settle for American coaches unless they are tactically diverse.
 

I complained about Greg a lot the first cycle, but in retrospect I thought he did an average job overall but a good job building up the culture of the lockerroom that was in shambles. I wouldn't say I liked how his hiring went down at all, but that's not his fault. Overall, he would have left the team in a great spot for the new coach to build upon. However, the way it all went for the 2nd cycle is just inexcusable from the USSF. There was only downside bringing him back again. 

I agree that I hope we're at a point where we're past the Greg Berhalters, Bruce Arenas, and Bob Bradleys of US Soccer. Not trying to discount what any of those guys did for the sport, but Poch is about to show we've had a higher ceiling for awhile now and it needs to stay that way post Poch. 

[Captain Ron 12956]

I disagree. He was a bad coach that did very average (ok that’s right). His teams failed to get any sort of signature wins/results. For their flaws, Arena and Bradley both got some signature results.

You talk culture - I think that Gregg left that in far worse shape than ever with the US team being softer than I have ever seen them. When he left the team had no chip on their shoulder, they would get punched in the mouth and back down.

As noted we’re well beyond what most US coaches can do here. The names listed, except for Gregg, did something for US Soccer. But our player pool has grown such that those coaches cant coach the talent they would be given. We need guys with more diverse ideas. 

[Ted Lange 16153]

Bringing back GGG a second time is one of the dumbest decisions I've ever seen in sports.  Wholeheartedly idiotic. 

That being said, if USSF had not rehired GGG and had gone another direction, we almost assuredly would have hired someone nowhere as good as Poch.    It took GGG, crapping himself in spectacular fashion, for USSF to be shamed into real action.  

The fact USSF, all along had the ability to land someone like Poch, but settled and resettled is absolutely infuriating.

[PittsburghTiger 6239]

29 minutes ago, Ted Lange said:

Bringing back GGG a second time is one of the dumbest decisions I've ever seen in sports.  Wholeheartedly idiotic. 

That being said, if USSF had not rehired GGG and had gone another direction, we almost assuredly would have hired someone nowhere as good as Poch.    It took GGG, crapping himself in spectacular fashion, for USSF to be shamed into real action.  

The fact USSF, all along had the ability to land someone like Poch, but settled and resettled is absolutely infuriating.

Yup!

[LurkingHorn 1074]

1 hour ago, Captain Ron said:

I disagree. He was a bad coach that did very average (ok that’s right). His teams failed to get any sort of signature wins/results. For their flaws, Arena and Bradley both got some signature results.

You talk culture - I think that Gregg left that in far worse shape than ever with the US team being softer than I have ever seen them. When he left the team had no chip on their shoulder, they would get punched in the mouth and back down.

As noted we’re well beyond what most US coaches can do here. The names listed, except for Gregg, did something for US Soccer. But our player pool has grown such that those coaches cant coach the talent they would be given. We need guys with more diverse ideas. 

I'm saying the culture would have been in a good spot if he had not returned for the 2nd cycle and USSF would have actually made a sensible decision on the new coach. He destroyed all that work when he was brought back. I really don't think he was a "bad" coach, I think he was extremely average which is not the expectation of the job he had. 

[LurkingHorn 1074]

1 hour ago, Ted Lange said:

Bringing back GGG a second time is one of the dumbest decisions I've ever seen in sports.  Wholeheartedly idiotic. 

That being said, if USSF had not rehired GGG and had gone another direction, we almost assuredly would have hired someone nowhere as good as Poch.    It took GGG, crapping himself in spectacular fashion, for USSF to be shamed into real action.  

The fact USSF, all along had the ability to land someone like Poch, but settled and resettled is absolutely infuriating.

This is what it all boils down to. We are hosting a damn World Cup and we gave that once-in-a-generation opportunity back to an extremely average coach? And paid millions of dollars to a consulting firm to come to that decision? Truly one of the most puzzling sports decisions I've ever seen--and I'm a Cowboy fan. 

[Ted Lange 16153]

 

 

[Ted Lange 16153]

 

 

[ztejas 43741]

Bratislava didn't get the scouting report I guess. 

[Ted Lange 16153]

 

 

[LurkingHorn 1074]

2 hours ago, Ted Lange said:

 

 

I would never have guessed that. 

[ztejas 43741]

 

[Jive Turkey 12722]

The Americans win it for PSV in a crucial Champions League match. From down 0-2 in the 87th minute to a 3-2 win with a stoppage time goal by that man again. 

 

Edited Wednesday at 10:51 PM by Jive Turkey