CFP Semifinal: Texas vs Washington - 7:45pm on ESPN

[Tex Pete 21488]

33 minutes ago, NoRagrets said:

I mean, we committed all of those. Now, Washington had a few they weren't called, so they should be closer to 8-9. 

We absolutely did not “block below the waist!” And Whittington’s hold was as iffy as it gets, particularly when we had DL getting tackled routinely during the game. 

[naija 3064]

Just now, Hank Kingsley said:

This seems reactionary. Sweat and Murphy carried our defense all year. 

 

I'm not saying they aren't good. They were great this year, but  I'm saying you are comparing them to one player who many in Pittsburgh will tell you should be in the Hall of Fame, and the other, despite underachieving,  was considered to be among the best pass rushing DTs to play in the NFL when he put the effort into it. That's a crazy high bar

 

 

[rpspeed 1495]

4 minutes ago, dr99 said:

They said on the LHN post game washington players are taking turns walking by Bevo and giving him the horns down and taunting him

Bevo could give two shits about those ass clowns, as do I

[Fudge Nuggets 19455]

11 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

Yeah, and when Penix takes the field, he's going to score at will with those receivers.

I'm not really buying the run it all game notion.

No way their receivers have another perfect game against a secondary that is at least somewhat competent at defending passes.

[hundredTT 578]

That hurt, but the positive waaaay outweigh the negative. We get to beat the shit out of aggy again. Our 5 star QB is likely coming back and will be even better. Our backup QB is a generational talent who will help bring in more studs. This is a great time. And I did break my firestick remote on the last play. 

[Hank_Hill 20051]

Just now, chainsaw said:

We've seen his ceiling, I'm afraid.

It’s year 2 you dunce. Bo Nix fucking sucked at Auburn. Penis is a 6th year player. You don’t know fuck all about Quinns ceiling and neither does anyone else.

[Hank Kingsley 21785]

1 minute ago, naija said:

I'm not saying they aren't good. They were great this year, but  I'm saying you are comparing them to one player who many in Pittsburgh will tell you should be in the Hall of Fame, and the other, despite underachieving,  was considered to be among the best pass rushing DTs to play in the NFL when he put the effort into it. That's a crazy high bar

 

 

This isn't the NFL. 

[StassneyHorn 6774]

1 minute ago, Tex Pete said:

We absolutely did not “block below the waist!” And Whittington’s hold was as iffy as it gets, particularly when we had DL getting tackled routinely during the game. 

Rig 12 Rig 12 Rig twelllllvvvveeeee

[The_Great_Hornsby 3598]

1 minute ago, chainsaw said:

We've seen his ceiling, I'm afraid.

Maybe, maybe not. I thought we saw his ceiling last year and he proved me wrong. Not unreasonable that he might take another step, especially with Manning pushing him in QB camp to keep his job. 

[Firemans4Horn 18533]

1 minute ago, chainsaw said:

We've seen his ceiling, I'm afraid.

That’s not how CFB works. Qb’s get better with reps and experience. Bo Nix kinda sucked at Auburn. Penix has got better year over year. Milroe and Ewers both got better throughout this season. 

[chainsaw 10292]

1 minute ago, Hank_Hill said:

It’s year 2 you dunce. Bo Nix fucking sucked at Auburn. Penis is a 6th year player. You don’t know fuck all about Quinns ceiling and neither does anyone else.

Bo Nix still sucks if you ask me.

Penix has "it." Can read quickly, hit receivers crisply. Quinn Ewers does not have "it."

[sith_horn 2516]

4 minutes ago, Hank Kingsley said:

Sweat and Murphy will go down in Texas lore like Hampton and Rogers. Going to really miss them. But we can seriously improve at Edge and in the secondary.  And I'm not as worried about finding replacements at offensive skill positions. 

The realistic goal this season was a Big 12 championship. We lucked our way into the 4 team playoff. I feel good that Sark will learn from this game and keep us on the right path. 

I don't disagree with much of what you say, but once in the playoffs, need to put your best foot forward. I don't feel like that was done tonight. Sark is doing good overall, and hopefully he and the staff will continue to correct as they go.

I do think we have some really good potential in the pipeline on both sides. Just remains to be seen how quickly they develop. Roster management is a strength for sure.

[Vic Mackey 47959]

It’s year 2 you dunce. Bo Nix fucking sucked at Auburn. Penis is a 6th year player. You don’t know fuck all about Quinns ceiling and neither does anyone else.

And Bo Nix still sucks when it matters most against good teams. But hey, he looked good against Liberty today.

[Beau Vine 55866]

19 minutes ago, Wilcox Cummingtonite said:

Agreed. I don’t think we contend for 2-3 years. 

[StassneyHorn 6774]

Muhammad had some damn fine coverage and just got beat. Simple as that. I wish the last Quinn throw was more of a dart

[chainsaw 10292]

1 minute ago, Vic Mackey said:

4 minutes ago, Hank_Hill said:

It’s year 2 you dunce. Bo Nix fucking sucked at Auburn. Penis is a 6th year player. You don’t know fuck all about Quinns ceiling and neither does anyone else.

And Bo Nix still sucks when it matters most against good teams. But hey, he looked good against Liberty today.

Exactly. Bo Nix's ceiling is 2 losses. Not our standard.

[naija 3064]

1 minute ago, chainsaw said:

Bo Nix still sucks if you ask me.

Penix has "it." Can read quickly, hit receivers crisply. Quinn Ewers does not have "it."

sometimes "it" is just repetition. or working at your craft. if not, why doesn't 'it" show up immediately from day one? did Brady not have "it" in college?

Ewers can get better. A real competition would be helpful for him to do so.

[Azbadlands 109]

1 minute ago, naija said:

I'm not saying they aren't good. They were great this year, but  I'm saying you are comparing them to one player who many in Pittsburgh will tell you should be in the Hall of Fame, and the other, despite underachieving,  was considered to be among the best pass rushing DTs to play in the NFL when he put the effort into it. That's a crazy high bar

 

 

I wouldn't even rate either of them above Roy Miller or Malcom Brown..Those guys were disruptive all the time.  Especially Miller when he was playing with Kindle at DE...

We need another DE like Kindle or Orakpo and a DC like Greg Robinson or Muschamp...

[vandergriff 105]

Penix looked like Burrow out there today.  Mich has a much better D than Texas so not likely to repeat that performance but he was awesome. 

[Hank_Hill 20051]

2 minutes ago, chainsaw said:

Bo Nix still sucks if you ask me.

Penix has "it." Can read quickly, hit receivers crisply. Quinn Ewers does not have "it."

You didn’t know shit about Penix until his 5th year in college. 

[Hank Kingsley 21785]

Penix made throws and receivers caught passes where you just tip your cap. These aren't plays you see completed by Milroe or McCarthy. 

It seems pretty clear that PK got worked, but at the same time Washington executed at an elite level.  What made this game hurt was having a lucky chance at the end. Overall we got outplayed. 

[RAMBONE 109]

We lost this game due to mistakes, turnovers, being behind the sticks due to penalties and UW pressure getting to QE early - discombobulating our offense. Our defense played poorly in general, but our secondary was pretty sticky, but Penix was on fire - he dropped dimes. Our defensive gameplan was off, obviously - we didn't generate much pressure on Penix.

We have alot of secondary and edge help coming next year. The future is bright.

We has a great season in 2023 and I am not disappointed. We didn't match up well vs UW yet, we almost won this game. 

Edited January 2 by RAMBONE

[Texasrocks 2253]

2 minutes ago, chainsaw said:

We've seen his ceiling, I'm afraid.

I doubt it. Experience matters. A lot. And he's already pretty good.

[chainsaw 10292]

1 minute ago, naija said:

sometimes "it" is just repetition. or working at your craft. if not, why doesn't 'it" show up immediately from day one? did Brady not have "it" in college?

Ewers can get better. A real competition would be helpful for him to do so.

Sark will not start Arch over him, but I'd rather develop Arch than play Ewers.

[Hank Kingsley 21785]

3 minutes ago, sith_horn said:

I don't disagree with much of what you say, but once in the playoffs, need to put your best foot forward. I don't feel like that was done tonight. Sark is doing good overall, and hopefully he and the staff will continue to correct as they go.

I do think we have some really good potential in the pipeline on both sides. Just remains to be seen how quickly they develop. Roster management is a strength for sure.

We were outcoached and outplayed tonight. No doubt. UW had a veteran team, and executed at a level we did not. 

[Fudge Nuggets 19455]

23 minutes ago, sith_horn said:

I get the thought process and giving it to your playmaker, but felt it was awfully predictable. Counterpoint - the OL didn't provide much time to think about it. I'd have preferred a different receiver if they were open, and I'd have to go rewatch to know if they were. But it's different from the comfort of my couch.

Worthy, AD and Whittington line up on the same side, all run to the back of the end zone.  TE does some shit across the middle in the front of the end zone.  Blue runs a wheel route on the opposite side of the field for the easy TD.

I should get paid millions of dollars to be a foozball corch.

[Hondo 749]

1 minute ago, naija said:

sometimes "it" is just repetition. or working at your craft. if not, why doesn't 'it" show up immediately from day one? did Brady not have "it" in college?

Ewers can get better. A real competition would be helpful for him to do so.

Brady had the mind and just needed time for the physical side to catch up.  Ewers is 180 degrees opposite, and you don't develop into a stone cold killer.  That's something you either are or aren't.  Ewers isn't.

[dcar00 14971]

34 minutes ago, sith_horn said:

They had all season to get better at protecting the ball. I blame the coaches.

this. neither has really good ball security but Blue is definitely the worst of the 2.

[chainsaw 10292]

3 minutes ago, naija said:

sometimes "it" is just repetition. or working at your craft. if not, why doesn't 'it" show up immediately from day one? did Brady not have "it" in college?

Ewers can get better. A real competition would be helpful for him to do so.

I don't think the stuff Ewers is bad at can be improved with experience. These seem like deeply ingrained tendencies.

[troph 25227]

8 minutes ago, MNLonghornFUKM said:

They were doing horns down all game. As if this was some rivalry.


Fuck em and their 9 year starting QB with his head in the booth drama BS.

Hope Michigan beats them by 30

I couldn't care less. Penix has already lost 2-3 years of NFL time playing for 6 years and WA won’t be a mainstay in the NIL era. I don’t see them recruiting a Penix caliber QB anytime soon. Deboer probably leaves soon too. 

[Tex Pete 21488]

8 minutes ago, StassneyHorn said:

Rig 12 Rig 12 Rig twelllllvvvveeeee

Shut the fuck up, pussylips. 

[troph 25227]

3 minutes ago, Hank Kingsley said:

Penix made throws and receivers caught passes where you just tip your cap. These aren't plays you see completed by Milroe or McCarthy. 

It seems pretty clear that PK got worked, but at the same time Washington executed at an elite level.  What made this game hurt was having a lucky chance at the end. Overall we got outplayed. 

The lucky chance made it sting less for me quite honestly. 

[Beau Vine 55866]

2 minutes ago, troph said:

I couldn't care less. Penix has already lost 2-3 years of NFL time playing for 6 years and WA won’t be a mainstay in the NIL era. I don’t see them recruiting a Penix caliber QB anytime soon. Deboer probably leaves soon too. 

Penix was getting $3M this season in NIL.

Deboer is about to sign a huge extension. 

Edited January 2 by Beau Vine

[Hagbard Celine 11254]

4 minutes ago, Hank Kingsley said:

Penix made throws and receivers caught passes where you just tip your cap. These aren't plays you see completed by Milroe or McCarthy. 

It seems pretty clear that PK got worked, but at the same time Washington executed at an elite level.  What made this game hurt was having a lucky chance at the end. Overall we got outplayed. 

#teamhank

lock it up

[notre dame joe 205]

5 minutes ago, naija said:

sometimes "it" is just repetition. or working at your craft. if not, why doesn't 'it" show up immediately from day one? did Brady not have "it" in college?

Ewers can get better. A real competition would be helpful for him to do so.

Brady beat Bama, with Michigan, in a bowl game...

[Tex Pete 21488]

4 minutes ago, Hank_Hill said:

You didn’t know shit about Penix until his 5th year in college. 

Penix was dicing people up at Indiana. Remember that great year they had? He should have won the Heisman this year. 

[TheFlagship 466]

Penix was unreal, hats off to him. Sometimes it’s pretty simple, in college football the team with better qb play wins 90% of the time.

[Fudge Nuggets 19455]

22 minutes ago, T-shirt Sip said:

One of the issues with the last play is that 5 half assed the route. He looked almost surprised the ball was thrown at him. 

Yet he still had the defender "posted up" with no one else in front of him.  AD was in good position if the ball was a bit lower.

[Texasrocks 2253]

2 minutes ago, troph said:

I couldn't care less. Penix has already lost 2-3 years of NFL time playing for 6 years and WA won’t be a mainstay in the NIL era. I don’t see them recruiting a Penix caliber QB anytime soon. Deboer probably leaves soon too. 

I assume Washington take a  big step back next year with the loss of Penix and Odunze. They seem like a rich man's version of TCU from last season.

[TwiceHorn 32079]

As cool as Ewers often seems to be, he seems to crumble quite a bit under pressure, both from defenses and from the situation.

[vandergriff 105]

3 minutes ago, Hondo said:

Brady had the mind and just needed time for the physical side to catch up.  Ewers is 180 degrees opposite, and you don't develop into a stone cold killer.  That's something you either are or aren't.  Ewers isn't.

Ewers improved this year.  BUT the best thing that could happen would be starting AM next season.  Take your lumps.  And be ready to contend again in 2025.  I don't know if Arch IS THE guy.  I DO know that Ewers is not.  And I'll bet Sark knows it too 

[chainsaw 10292]

Just now, Hagbard Celine said:

#teamhank

lock it up

Rack him

[troph 25227]

1 minute ago, Beau Vine said:

Penix was getting $3M this season in NIL.

I highly doubt they are throwing money at QBs going forward like that. If WA can step it up and keep DeBoer and bring the NIL cash good for them. Most don’t see that happening.

[chainsaw 10292]

1 minute ago, Texasrocks said:

I assume Washington take a  big step back next year with the loss of Penix and Odunze. They seem like a rich man's version of TCU from last season.

....are we?.....are we the Michigan?

[Hank_Hill 20051]

2nd year Ewers didn’t play as well as the 6th year heisman runner up. Burn it down. He doesn’t have IT

1 minute ago, chainsaw said:

....are we?.....are we the Michigan?

Did we get boat raced by a shitty team?

[Beau Vine 55866]

I will confess that I nearly got physically ill when they put 1 second back on the clock.  I was thinking, "We're going to be fucking Nebraska now."

[naija 3064]

7 minutes ago, chainsaw said:

Sark will not start Arch over him, but I'd rather develop Arch than play Ewers.

if he can't make that decision, despite having been with Saban up close, then he isn't long for here. you recruit as best you can, and then let it play out honestly. anything else is a bad bargain. I know Sark trends towards being a nice guy, but you have to believe an offensive guy like him who relies so much on a passing QB will not hamstring himself like that.

[Slacks 7063]

11 minutes ago, Hank Kingsley said:

Penix made throws and receivers caught passes where you just tip your cap. These aren't plays you see completed by Milroe or McCarthy. 

It seems pretty clear that PK got worked, but at the same time Washington executed at an elite level.  What made this game hurt was having a lucky chance at the end. Overall we got outplayed. 

UW had better QB, WR, OL (passing offense), pass defense, ball security... 

Texas has better run game on both offense and defense.

Better QB and turnover margin will usually win. 

Edited January 2 by Slacks

[chainsaw 10292]

Just now, naija said:

if he can't make that decision, despite having been with Saban up close, then he isn't long for here. you recruit as best you can, and then let it play out honestly. anything else is a bad bargain. I know Sark trends towards being a nice guy, but you have to believe an offensive guy like him who relies so much on a passing QB will not hamstring himself like that.

I would trust Ewers over Arch due to his experience. That's only rational. He gives you the best chance to win now, but the long term cost to Arch's development is not worth it to me.

[RAMBONE 109]

2 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

As cool as Ewers often seems to be, he seems to crumble quite a bit under pressure, both from defenses and from the situation.

I mean what QB is great under extreme pressure? I think he made great decisions tonight all in all, but yes he was off a bit. However, QE did not lose us this game. I'm excited for him in 2024. I'm excited for Arch after that for sure