Texas Football Roster 2024 -- "You never lose a game if the opponent doesn’t score" DKR

[LTtxfan 49,142]

13 minutes ago, Nope said:

It’s most likely spin but Anwar is saying it was a Texas decision to part with Brooks

 

1 minute ago, Sgt Hulk said:

Hearing all the challenges with the father I could see this 

Rumor is part of it was unrealistic NIL expectations and also Brooks wasn't necessarily gonna start.

[LTtxfan 49,142]

List of Guys in Portal (4/24)

• S'Maje Burrell            LB
• Payton Kirkland         OL       Colorado 
• Billy Walton III            edge
• J'Mond Tapp              edge
• Zac Swanson             DL
• Savion Red                 RB
• Terrance Brooks         DB
• Austin Jordan             DB

Bump to page 6

[Sgt Hulk 13,712]

Brooks will be in Ohio state within a week 

[Knighthawk 284]

Brooks to aggy would be fun.  And expected given the family ties.  

[Nope 3,114]

Bama currently only has one corner older than a freshman (Domani Jackson)

[LTtxfan 49,142]

23 minutes ago, Knighthawk said:

Brooks to aggy would be fun.  And expected given the family ties.  

Can't go to SEC team and play immediately next fall  due to an SEC in-conference transfer rule:

 "There is one difference in the SEC’s rule compared to the NCAA’s one-time transfer rule. To transfer within the SEC and be eligible immediately, fall sport athletes must “declare his or her intent to transfer” by February 1st"

 

[BurntOrange&White 39,930]

55 minutes ago, Nope said:

It’s most likely spin but Anwar is saying it was a Texas decision to part with Brooks

So Anwar reads here and OTF?

Edited April 25 by BurntOrange&White

[Nope 3,114]

4 minutes ago, LTtxfan said:

Can't go to SEC team and play immediately next fall  due to an SEC in-conference transfer rule:

 "There is one difference in the SEC’s rule compared to the NCAA’s one-time transfer rule. To transfer within the SEC and be eligible immediately, fall sport athletes must “declare his or her intent to transfer” by February 1st"

 

Nvm then

[LTtxfan 49,142]

30 minutes ago, Sgt Hulk said:

Brooks will be in Ohio state within a week 

Per Gerry, the defensive staff that recruited Brooks at ohio state is gone.  Might be interesting to see if Phatterson tried to get baylor to add Brooks...

 

[texifornia 56,855]

59 minutes ago, LTtxfan said:

 

Rumor is part of it was unrealistic NIL expectations and also Brooks wasn't necessarily gonna start.

And that he showed up overweight to camp. Wasn't exactly a burner to begin with.

[Knighthawk 284]

Had really high hopes for Brooks.  Saw him play in high school quite a bit and he really stood out - nfl written all over him.  But I agree his twitch and speed have gone backwards.  Don’t know if it’s injury or something else.  Sad either way. 

[LTtxfan 49,142]

On 4/24/2024 at 8:49 PM, LTtxfan said:

List of Guys in Portal (4/24)

• S'Maje Burrell            LB
• Payton Kirkland         OL       Colorado 
• Billy Walton III            edge
• J'Mond Tapp              edge
• Zac Swanson             DL
• Savion Red                 RB
• Terrance Brooks         DB
• Austin Jordan             DB

Bump to page 6

 

Add 1 more leaving...

" Texas LB Kendrick Blackshire has entered the NCAA Transfer Portal "

[LTtxfan 49,142]

List of Guys in Portal (5/1)

• S'Maje Burrell            LB
• Payton Kirkland         OL       Colorado
• Billy Walton III            edge    SMU
• J'Mond Tapp              edge
• Zac Swanson             DL
• Savion Red                 RB
• Terrance Brooks         DB
• Austin Jordan             DB
• Kendrick Blackshire    LB  

 

[texifornia 56,855]

17 minutes ago, LTtxfan said:

List of Guys in Portal (5/1)

• S'Maje Burrell            LB
• Payton Kirkland         OL       Colorado
• Billy Walton III            edge    SMU
• J'Mond Tapp              edge
• Zac Swanson             DL
• Savion Red                 RB
• Terrance Brooks         DB
• Austin Jordan             DB
• Kendrick Blackshire    LB  

 

Tapp committed to Arizona State

[LTtxfan 49,142]

Adding Tapp's new destination...

List of Guys in Portal (5/1) 

• S'Maje Burrell            LB
• Payton Kirkland         OL       Colorado
• Billy Walton III            edge    SMU
• J'Mond Tapp              edge    Ariz State
• Zac Swanson             DL
• Savion Red                 RB
• Terrance Brooks         DB
• Austin Jordan             DB
• Kendrick Blackshire    LB  

 

[High Plains Drifter 11,024]

On 1/6/2024 at 3:01 PM, TreatyOak said:

Not to be one of 'those people,' but if your opponents don't score and you also don't score, you don't win. The game is a tie. Okay, maybe it's fun to be one of those people. 

 

 

Has there ever been a game, since the invention of the line of scrimmage, that ended in a 0-0 tie?

Because I feel pretty good making the statement, "If you can hold your opponent to zero points, you will win the game." The number of times that statement ends up not being true is insignificant. 

 

 

[TreatyOak 16,311]

47 minutes ago, High Plains Drifter said:

 

Has there ever been a game, since the invention of the line of scrimmage, that ended in a 0-0 tie?

Because I feel pretty good making the statement, "If you can hold your opponent to zero points, you will win the game." The number of times that statement ends up not being true is insignificant.

"Yes, there have been 73 games in NFL history that ended as 0-0 ties. All occurred in the early days of the NFL, and the most recent one occurred in 1943. Since the NFL merger in 1970, however, the fewest combined points scored in a game is three."Dec 10, 2023

 

The worst college football game ever: 77 punts, 33 plays and the growing legend of a record-setting 0-0 tie. Centenary vs Texas Tech in 1939!!!!

Crazy that it involves Texas Tech!

 

 

 

[Tex Long 4,382]

1 hour ago, High Plains Drifter said:

 

Has there ever been a game, since the invention of the line of scrimmage, that ended in a 0-0 tie?

Because I feel pretty good making the statement, "If you can hold your opponent to zero points, you will win the game." The number of times that statement ends up not being true is insignificant. 

 

 

I'd think lots of 0-0, particularly in Olden  Daze. I know the '36 Sugar Bowl was a 3-2 game, TCU over LSU, and the '42 one was 2-0 Fightin' Lombardis over Mizzou. I think Lombardi was at Fordham in 30's, but I always associated him with Fordham.

NFL overtime still allows for ties, but I don't know what NC2A has done with college rules - wouldn't surprise me either way.

 

EDIT: Treaty Oak beat me to it, at least NFL-wise, and with actual data instead of speculation.

Edited May 3 by Tex Long

[The_Great_Hornsby 3,236]

[Funk Doctor Spock 12,176]

On 5/1/2024 at 3:29 PM, LTtxfan said:

Adding Tapp's new destination...

List of Guys in Portal (5/1) 

• S'Maje Burrell            LB
• Payton Kirkland         OL       Colorado
• Billy Walton III            edge    SMU
• J'Mond Tapp              edge    Ariz State
• Zac Swanson             DL
• Savion Red                 RB
• Terrance Brooks         DB
• Austin Jordan             DB
• Kendrick Blackshire    LB  

 

Don't forget to add Zac Swanson committed to ASU 

[LTtxfan 49,142]

List of Guys in Portal (5/2) 

• S'Maje Burrell            LB
• Payton Kirkland         OL       Colorado
• Billy Walton III            edge    SMU
• J'Mond Tapp              edge    Ariz State
• Zac Swanson             DL        Ariz State
• Savion Red                 RB
• Terrance Brooks         DB
• Austin Jordan             DB
• Kendrick Blackshire    LB  

 

[Funk Doctor Spock 12,176]

ASU looking like University of Texas at Tempe

[Armybrat 40,820]

19 hours ago, Tex Long said:

I'd think lots of 0-0, particularly in Olden  Daze. I know the '36 Sugar Bowl was a 3-2 game, TCU over LSU, and the '42 one was 2-0 Fightin' Lombardis over Mizzou. I think Lombardi was at Fordham in 30's, but I always associated him with Fordham.

NFL overtime still allows for ties, but I don't know what NC2A has done with college rules - wouldn't surprise me either way.

 

EDIT: Treaty Oak beat me to it, at least NFL-wise, and with actual data instead of speculation.

IIRC, if a college or high school game ended in a 0-0 tie, the team with most penetrations across the 50 was awarded the win.

 

[Dbeasy 15,040]

30 minutes ago, Armybrat said:

IIRC, if a college or high school game ended in a 0-0 tie, the team with most penetrations across the 50 was awarded the win.

 

This post brought up a nightmare memory. There was a large old neighborhood group of us that played intramural football at UT in the early 80’s. There were too many guys for one team, so we fielded 2, the best on one and the rest on the second who played one level down. The best team won several titles, including in the top class. 

It was awesome to see because they would beat all these frats that drew from large populations, practiced a lot, etc. Our guys from the neighborhood were just 8 that grew up together and rolled out for every game and just played. These guys were great athletes and won football, basketball and softball titles at UT. 

But the second team, on which I played, hadn’t won a title in the lower class. We always felt we weren’t holding up our neighborhood’s legacy. And the first team guys always gave us shit for it. 

One year, we finally got our act together and played in the title game. With one play left it was 4th down near our end zone, the score was 0-0, but we led in penetrations. So all we had to do is keep them out of the end zone and we’d finally have a title.

Our DB intercepted the pass in the end zone and downed it, presumably ending the game. But the dumb fuck kid referee was so clueless he didn’t know football rules. He called it a safety instead. We argued with this idiot for 15 minutes but lost the appeal and the game 2-0. Thanks for reminding me. Dammit. To this day, we still catch hell from the guys for not also being on the wall at Gregory Gym. 

[Armybrat 40,820]

Quote

dumb fuck kid referee

I’ll bet a Dollar to a donut that guy was the same referee who fucked up the non-safety call in the 2022 Bama game in Austin.

[Tex Long 4,382]

In games that ended in a tie, but needed a winner, I think it was penetrations of the TWENTY, then if that tied, count first downs, then if that tied, total yardage. I don't recall that still tied, ever, but maybe lastly a coin flip.

 

[Armybrat 40,820]

3 minutes ago, Tex Long said:

In games that ended in a tie, but needed a winner, I think it was penetrations of the TWENTY, then if that tied, count first downs, then if that tied, total yardage. I don't recall that still tied, ever, but maybe lastly a coin flip.

 

That sounds about right. 

[DixonHur 11,292]

FYI, I just got back from Bookspring Fest and can confirm that Alfred Collins is a very large human being....Niblack isn't tiny either.

Can't wait for September.

[Mother mopar 3,318]

Phenomenal video on Gunner Helm, Texas, Sark's culture and TE room. GH is an awesome imterview. His story on blocking Ray Thorton is funny AF.

[Nope 3,114]

1 hour ago, Mother mopar said:

Phenomenal video on Gunner Helm, Texas, Sark's culture and TE room. GH is an awesome imterview. His story on blocking Ray Thorton is funny AF.
 

It was interesting that he said all the guys who didn’t want to work either left or went “to the draft” 

Who do we think that last part is about?

[Royale with cheese 1,466]

8 minutes ago, Nope said:

It was interesting that he said all the guys who didn’t want to work either left or went “to the draft” 

Who do we think that last part is about?

JT Sanders, perhaps. Same group. Just a guess. 

[Nope 3,114]

15 minutes ago, Royale with cheese said:

JT Sanders, perhaps. Same group. Just a guess. 

That was the first guy I thought of

[Mother mopar 3,318]

It was interesting that he said all the guys who didn’t want to work either left or went “to the draft” 
Who do we think that last part is about?

I took it as he was talking about beyond the TE room, but it doesn't matter now...they gone.

[CastHorn 811]

Add Jay’Vion Cole to the DB Room. Excited about this one. 

[LTtxfan 49,142]

1 hour ago, CastHorn said:

Add Jay’Vion Cole to the DB Room. Excited about this one. 

 

[Nope 3,114]

40 minutes ago, LTtxfan said:

 

His 86.2 PFF rating in 2023 was the highest of any defender in the Mountain West regardless of position

Edited May 5 by Nope

[Danimal 339]

Now that the portal is closed, and it seems that the roster is pretty much set for 2024 save a potential grad transfer portal addition, here's how I am rating the position groups:

Ratings:

1. Liability/Unknown
2. Some Holes / Struggle Often 
3. Average / Serviceable (UDFA talent)
4. Good (Draftable Talent)
5. Great/Elite (1-3 Round Draft Talent)

Ratings are two numbers: (floor / potential)

Offense

QB: (4/5) - Quinn hopefully performs as a RD 1 QB; Arch Manning is ready

RB: (4/5) - Deep and talented RB room; will CJ Baxter or Jaydon Blue be one of best RBs by year-end?

WR: (4/5) - Plenty of talent and depth, just need to find the right mix

TE: (3.5/4) - Helm and Niblack are solid TE weapons (although for different roles)

OL: (4/5) - A lot of talent and depth. Williams is talented, but replacing a RT who got drafted won't be without some issues. How long will Conner start?

 

Defense

DE (4/5) - Lots of talent and depth. Getting pressure from the edge should not be an issue this season

DT (3/4.5) - The Arizona transfers help set a solid floor; Collins is the real upside for this unit

LB (3.5/4.5) - Hill is special, Gbenda has experience, and Lefau and Gullete have talent

CB (3/4.5) - Muhammad is a stud, but a lot depends on the development of the true FR and what Cole from the portal can do at the P4 level

NB (3.5/4.5) - Barron and Guilbeau are solid NB options

S (3.5/4.5) - Please start Mukuba next to Williams. Freshman are talented, but unproven

 

Special Teams

K: (3/4) - Auburn is a known commodity

P: (1/3) - A lot depends on Kern or a portal addition

[TrashMaster G 17,541]

20 minutes ago, Danimal said:

Now that the portal is closed, and it seems that the roster is pretty much set for 2024 save a potential grad transfer portal addition, here's how I am rating the position groups:

Ratings:

1. Liability/Unknown
2. Some Holes / Struggle Often 
3. Average / Serviceable (UDFA talent)
4. Good (Draftable Talent)
5. Great/Elite (1-3 Round Draft Talent)

Ratings are two numbers: (floor / potential)

Offense

QB: (4/5) - Quinn hopefully performs as a RD 1 QB; Arch Manning is ready

RB: (4/5) - Deep and talented RB room; will CJ Baxter or Jaydon Blue be one of best RBs by year-end?

WR: (4/5) - Plenty of talent and depth, just need to find the right mix

TE: (3.5/4) - Helm and Niblack are solid TE weapons (although for different roles)

OL: (4/5) - A lot of talent and depth. Williams is talented, but replacing a RT who got drafted won't be without some issues. How long will Conner start?

 

Defense

DE (4/5) - Lots of talent and depth. Getting pressure from the edge should not be an issue this season

DT (3/4.5) - The Arizona transfers help set a solid floor; Collins is the real upside for this unit

LB (3.5/4.5) - Hill is special, Gbenda has experience, and Lefau and Gullete have talent

CB (3/4.5) - Muhammad is a stud, but a lot depends on the development of the true FR and what Cole from the portal can do at the P4 level

NB (3.5/4.5) - Barron and Guilbeau are solid NB options

S (3.5/4.5) - Please start Mukuba next to Williams. Freshman are talented, but unproven

 

Special Teams

K: (3/4) - Auburn is a known commodity

P: (1/3) - A lot depends on Kern or a portal addition

Bert Auburn was 1st team All conference and honorable-mention AA, made 83% of his FG attempts and you give him a 4 for a ceiling?

Wtf is wrong with you, man?

[Red Five 40,827]

Never mind.

Edited May 6 by Red Five

[immamac 42,834]

On 5/5/2024 at 7:03 AM, Mother mopar said:

Phenomenal video on Gunner Helm, Texas, Sark's culture and TE room. GH is an awesome imterview. His story on blocking Ray Thorton is funny AF.
 

He got rehearsed by us on nearly all these questions. You can listen to them. 

[Hermanator 7,032]

46 minutes ago, TrashMaster G said:

Bert Auburn was 1st team All conference and honorable-mention AA, made 83% of his FG attempts and you give him a 4 for a ceiling?

Wtf is wrong with you, man?

4 in his list is "good (draftable talent)". How does Auburn not fit in that range? If anything it's a bit high as I'd be shocked if he's drafted.

He didn't do it a 4 out of 10 scale

Edited May 6 by Hermanator

[TrashMaster G 17,541]

3 minutes ago, Hermanator said:

4 in his list is "good (draftable talent)". How does Auburn not fit in that range? If anything it's a bit high as I'd be shocked if he's drafted.

He didn't do it a 4 out of 10 scale

Fair enough. But by that standard the ceiling for any kicker is 4, which is weird.

[bejezuz 329]

 

27 minutes ago, TrashMaster G said:

32 minutes ago, Hermanator said:

4 in his list is "good (draftable talent)". How does Auburn not fit in that range? If anything it's a bit high as I'd be shocked if he's drafted.

He didn't do it a 4 out of 10 scale

Fair enough. But by that standard the ceiling for any kicker is 4, which is weird.

He's not called Hermanator for nothing.  

[DixonHur 11,292]

On 5/5/2024 at 8:45 AM, Nope said:

It was interesting that he said all the guys who didn’t want to work either left or went “to the draft” 

Who do we think that last part is about?

Pretty clear after seeing JT's combine/pro day performance who he was talking about.

[DixonHur 11,292]

1 hour ago, Danimal said:

The Arizona transfers help set a solid floor

I think people are going to be surprised how well these guys play.  I think at least one of them gets drafted.

[Danimal 339]

2 hours ago, TrashMaster G said:

Fair enough. But by that standard the ceiling for any kicker is 4, which is weird.

That's a fair take. The 1-5 rating I set is likely too hard for a K / P to get a 5. Regardless, I think Auburn is a good kicker and he will help us win games this year, but I don't think he is or will be great / elite.

[BurntOrange&White 39,930]

On 5/5/2024 at 7:03 AM, Mother mopar said:

Phenomenal video on Gunner Helm, Texas, Sark's culture and TE room. GH is an awesome imterview. His story on blocking Ray Thorton is funny AF.
 

Hearing that shirt system will make me adjust the way I view workout and practice photos from this day going forward. 

[Tex Long 4,382]

Love the t-shirt system. Is this vintage Sark, or did he pick it up from Pete, or Nick, or...? 

[LTtxfan 49,142]

Remember this great updated roster resource posted by @AP101S 

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1TzoBTIvCXfZIk7Sz3C9txMg0yPvrXyVM/edit#gid=1682239859

[CastHorn 811]

On 5/6/2024 at 9:06 AM, Danimal said:

DT (3/4.5) - The Arizona transfers help set a solid floor; Collins is the real upside for this unit

I don’t have much expectations for Norton, his tape is suspect. Savea was a pleasant surprise, he looked strong and active in the spring game. I have zero expectations for Broughton. I believe Bryant and Bledsoe will flash. No idea what to expect of Sydir. January might be able to give you quality snaps this season. Collins was one of the most disruptive interior linemen in the country last year, I believe he’ll be the guy we’ve been waiting on. Kenny doesn’t have it made for him, but a good coach should be able to produce with these pieces. I feel we’re solid enough at ILB to remain strong against the run.