Greg Orders Texas National Guard To Seize Park in Eagle Pass, Bars Border Patrol/CBP

[wildcat09 29346]

1 minute ago, Goredho said:

You have to own a gun to do everything you talked about.  You do.  Many here do not, though, and hold a position that all guns should be illegal and would normally never consider owning one.  My point is they need to revisit that position, because our civil crisis is going to come to a head long before any meaningful gun reform is enacted that would keep guns out of play in this civil crisis.

Buddy, this is a Texas message board. I'm pretty sure most of us libs still own guns. I own eight. 

['stache 21795]

They're not worried about cartels, or trying to make Biden look weak, etc. It's literally just another wedge issue to get stupid people to vote against their interests. The same thing with abortion, gay marriage, book bans, guns. "They are suppressing votes and want a dictator, but [the babies/the gays/porn in schools/muh guns/the Mexicans]. That's it, nothing more, nothing less.

[Js1 85276]

14 minutes ago, wildcat09 said:

They don't want the fight, they want to pretend that they want the fight.

They're not going to fight. They're not going to secede. They're going to bitch and moan and do nothing to fix the problem.  

These states cannot secede - period.  Texas especially.  Pretty much would become a third world country within 5 years - all these businesses propping up Texas with jobs and people (and thus, taxes) would get the fuck out as fast as possible.  Likely all the O&G companies sticks around, but Texas would just become some version of Qatar, filled with aggys and uneducated racists, while businesses like AT&T, American Airlines, Dell, Apple, all the top hospital staff in Houston, etc. moving out faster than the Clampetts headed to Beverly Hills.  These companies aren't going to base their new businesses in the Republican of Texastan and those dumbfucks in Austin trying to run a fucking country.

The other states trying to be viable without the tax money they get from states like Illinois, California, NY?  L-O-fucking-L, there might be countries in Africa richer than they'll end up. 

2 minutes ago, wildcat09 said:

Buddy, this is a Texas message board. I'm pretty sure most of us libs still own guns. I own eight. 

Nope, I own none and I will be getting the fuck out immediately rather than get a gun than fight.

Texas is nothing special - it's just a state.  My passport doesn't say Texas citizen.  

Edited January 26 by Js1

[wildcat09 29346]

Just because secession would be incredibly stupid doesn't mean there aren't enough dumbass aggy in this state for it to happen.  I don't think there's nearly enough serious support for it now, but if they keep this kind of talk and behavior up and it goes unanswered, support will grow.

[Brisketexan 105066]

1 minute ago, wildcat09 said:

Buddy, this is a Texas message board. I'm pretty sure most of us libs still own guns. I own eight. 

This.  The cosplay Gravy Seals masturbate to our ARs crowd has mentally climbed to the top of Mount Fuck Around.  They have this delusional belief that they are the sole armed people in American society, and the only ones who are willing to shoot bad guys.  They masturbate to and fantasize about doing so, with fervor.  The rest of us?  We very, very, very much do NOT want to do so.  But here's the thing....if pushed to the point where it becomes necessary, we will.  We will like a motherfucker.  The mentality is not that different than what you've seen in the military over the years.  The guys who show up strutting around, acting all Billy Badass, "I can't wait till I get to shoot somebody?"  They're often pure shit when the lead actually begins to fly.  The guys who show up, don't talk shit, learn, and simply do their duty?  They're the ones who get the dirty business fucking done.  Because it's fucking business.  It's not fun, it's not something to look forward to, it's not a source of joy.  It's a job.  So, fucking get it done.

[Goredho 17395]

3 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

Bingo.

I agree with you.  More than anything, this is about A) making Biden look like a buffoon/weak and B) giving him a tar baby to deal with while trying to campaign ala Trump's legal jeopardy.

But, I do think there is potential there for this to escalate to some sort of tipping point.  All it takes is for Biden to send in feds to establish order and then one gravy seal to do their best Ashlii Babbit impersonation on camera and we have a Kent State event where Biden's government looks like what they say it is.  At that point, I think Brisket's darkest nightmares look plausible.

[Your Mom 4805]

3 minutes ago, Goredho said:

You have to own a gun to do everything you talked about.  You do.  Many here do not, though, and hold a position that all guns should be illegal and would normally never consider owning one.  My point is they need to revisit that position, because our civil crisis is going to come to a head long before any meaningful gun reform is enacted that would keep guns out of play in this civil crisis.

Not one person on this board believes all guns should be illegal.   

['stache 21795]

Just now, Js1 said:

They're not going to fight. They're not going to secede. They're going to bitch and moan and do nothing to fix the problem.  

These states cannot secede - period.  Texas especially.  Pretty much would become a third world country within 5 years - all these businesses propping up Texas with jobs and people (and thus, taxes) would get the fuck out as fast as possible.  Likely all the O&G companies sticks around, but Texas would just become some version of Qatar, filled with aggys and uneducated racists, while businesses like AT&T, American Airlines, Dell, Apple, all the top hospital staff in Houston, etc. moving out faster than the Clampetts headed to Beverly Hills.  These companies aren't going to base their new businesses in the Republican of Texastan and those dumbfucks in Austin trying to run a fucking country.

The other states trying to be viable without the tax money they get from states like Illinois, California, NY?  L-O-fucking-L, there might be countries in Africa richer than they'll end up. 

Nope, I own none and I will be getting the fuck out immediately rather than get a gun than fight.

Texas is nothing special - it's just a state.  My passport doesn't say Texas citizen.  

They should be doing that now, or like yesterday. No need to make a big deal out of it, but move your fucking headquarters already if you give a single shit about democracy. But they wont, because they don't, sure they fuck with peoples' lives, but they make sure the billionaires and shareholders don't pay taxes, that's all that matters. Yay Texas.

[Longhorn_Fan68 33864]

2 minutes ago, Your Mom said:

Not one person on this board believes all guns should be illegal.   

[F250 28764]

9 minutes ago, Goredho said:

You have to own a gun to do everything you talked about.  You do.  Many here do not, though, and hold a position that all guns should be illegal and would normally never consider owning one.  My point is they need to revisit that position, because our civil crisis is going to come to a head long before any meaningful gun reform is enacted that would keep guns out of play in this civil crisis.

 

[jimmyjazz 45888]

9 minutes ago, Goredho said:

You have to own a gun to do everything you talked about.  You do.  Many here do not, though, and hold a position that all guns should be illegal and would normally never consider owning one.

I've recently advocated for making all guns illegal.

Here's the deal:  they aren't, and they won't be any time soon.  I've never owned a gun more powerful than a Crosman C02 BB gun.  That's about to change.  (First, I'm signing up for a class.)

[YChang 3443]

8 minutes ago, wildcat09 said:

Buddy, this is a Texas message board. I'm pretty sure most of us libs still own guns. I own eight. 

Whoah are you the Ying/yang to fattie?!?

[Goredho 17395]

6 minutes ago, Your Mom said:

Not one person on this board believes all guns should be illegal.   

 

3 minutes ago, Longhorn_Fan68 said:

You may own guns, you may not think all guns should be illegal, but your assertions above are simply wrong.

9 minutes ago, Js1 said:

Nope, I own none and I will be getting the fuck out immediately rather than get a gun than fight.

Texas is nothing special - it's just a state.  My passport doesn't say Texas citizen.  

 

2 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

I've recently advocated for making all guns illegal.

Here's the deal:  they aren't, and they won't be any time soon.  I've never owned a gun more powerful than a Crosman C02 BB gun.  That's about to change.  (First, I'm signing up for a class.)

 

[Longhorn_Fan68 33864]

I'm not sure what point you were trying to make but I don't think you made it

[Js1 85276]

Just now, Longhorn_Fan68 said:

I'm not sure what point you were trying to make but I don't think you made it

That's motto worthy.

[SimonBolivar 10957]

31 minutes ago, Js1 said:

ill be getting the fuck out immediately rather than get a gun than fight.

Texas is nothing special - it's just a state.  My passport doesn't say Texas citizen.  

Bingo. 

 

"We did it we won! Now time to sit back and enjoy the 65th straight day of 100-degree weather in a war-torn shell of a state that is being reconstructed."

[jimmyjazz 45888]

18 minutes ago, Longhorn_Fan68 said:

I'm not sure what point you were trying to make but I don't think you made it

He was pointing out that my post contradicted your confirmation about surlies thinking all guns should be illegal.

I don't like my stance, but at this point I feel it's the best tack to take.  The gun lobby is too powerful, so fuck 'em.  All or nothing.

[Goredho 17395]

17 minutes ago, Longhorn_Fan68 said:

I'm not sure what point you were trying to make but I don't think you made it

The point is that A) not everyone here owns a gun, B) some people here think all guns should be illegal and C) they may need to rethink those positions depending on how this continues to play out.  I can understand the desire expressed by some in this thread to just leave Texas (I did that while back).  But this conservative challenge to the federal government isn't going to stop at Texas borders.  Even if warranted, if Biden sends the feds into Texas to establish order and protect the sovereignty of the federal government, what do you think Trump will do to blue states if he wins?  Give them a hall pass for taking him off the ballot?

[Js1 85276]

36 minutes ago, 'stache said:

They should be doing that now, or like yesterday. No need to make a big deal out of it, but move your fucking headquarters already if you give a single shit about democracy. But they wont, because they don't, sure they fuck with peoples' lives, but they make sure the billionaires and shareholders don't pay taxes, that's all that matters. Yay Texas.

They still enjoy many of the benefits of the US government infrastructure being headquarted in Texas.  That all goes away with secession. 

Do you think American Airlines sticks around while the Republican of Texastan tries to hastily put together an FAA and negotiates how many flights are allowed to fly to the United States? (preferably none, there should be an immediate travel ban for anyone not applying for asylum)

Same with AT&T and the FCC. 

[hobbes2702 13029]

5 minutes ago, Goredho said:

The point is that A) not everyone here owns a gun, B) some people here think all guns should be illegal and C) they may need to rethink those positions depending on how this continues to play out.  I can understand the desire expressed by some in this thread to just leave Texas (I did that while back).  But this conservative challenge to the federal government isn't going to stop at Texas borders.  Even if warranted, if Biden sends the feds into Texas to establish order and protect the sovereignty of the federal government, what do you think Trump will do to blue states if he wins?  Give them a hall pass for taking him off the ballot?

There isn’t any actual challenge. This is all just show. Texas isn’t going to secede and neither is any other state.

[UTCzech III 2907]

13 hours ago, TeeDubya said:

Which one of you did this???
 

 

and the chaser

for those that can't see comment:  "Only foe was Gen. Stairwell Jackson"  

[gmr548 16576]

1 hour ago, Js1 said:

 

Nope, I own none and I will be getting the fuck out immediately rather than get a gun than fight.

Texas is nothing special - it's just a state.  My passport doesn't say Texas citizen.  

Yep. In this hypothetical, Texas is absolutely not worth fighting over. I want to move every summer anyway. I'd be nope-ing the fuck outta here.

[Ghost of LL 15531]

5 minutes ago, gmr548 said:

Yep. In this hypothetical, Texas is absolutely not worth fighting over. I want to move every summer anyway. I'd be nope-ing the fuck outta here.

It's not about fighting over for me.  It's about dying over.  Because while I don't mind shooting these traitors in the fucking face, presumably they're going to be liable to shoot back.  And no--I have no interest in getting shot for this shithole state.

And I say that as a 6th-generation Texan.  But you know why I'm not a whatever-th generation Czech or Englishman?  Because my forebearers had the good sense to leave when the time was right.  And I have no intention of staying someplace when it makes a lot more sense to leave.

Let these fuckfaces have fun as their own shithole country if they want.  I will move to California or New York or Ontario or some other place that isn't 10,000* in the summer and where I'm not surrounded by a bunch of fucking morons.

[elfenix 34223]

Listening to a great CLE presented by HBA right now on immigration. I'll see if I can post the link later

"Are you saying anchor babies aren't a real thing?"

"They aren't a real thing."

[Smax 3800]

2 hours ago, jimmyjazz said:

I've recently advocated for making all guns illegal.

Here's the deal:  they aren't, and they won't be any time soon.  I've never owned a gun more powerful than a Crosman C02 BB gun.  That's about to change.  (First, I'm signing up for a class.)

 

 

I got you bro, just bring over a case of natty lite, we'll sit down have a few beers, go over gun safety then start shooting shit. Yeehaw!

[Hank_Hill 18793]

9 minutes ago, Smax said:

 

 

I got you bro, just bring over a case of natty lite, we'll sit down have a few beers, go over gun safety then start shooting shit. Yeehaw!

“This here’s the business end. You got that? Alright class dismissed let’s go have some fun.”

[texasdago 7568]

1 hour ago, UTCzech III said:

and the chaser

for those that can't see comment:  "Only foe was Gen. Stairwell Jackson"  

Should not have looked at this during a conference call 

[InkaUtexas 25862]

7 minutes ago, Smax said:

 

 

I got you bro, just bring over a case of natty lite, we'll sit down have a few beers, go over gun safety then start shooting shit. Yeehaw!

[InkaUtexas 25862]

So we do not have money for schools but we have money for this? Do the "volunteers" receive their duty pay as well? Two things come to mind. 1- These people would be needed to deploy on Natural Disaster missions or for Federal Duty. 2- This was not spell checked.

Operation Lone Star integrates TMD with the Texas Department of Public Safety to deploy border security assets to high threat areas to deny criminal organizations the ability to illegally move drugs and people into Texas.  

The Texas Military Department has new full-time positions available for the Operation Lone Star border support mission. These positions offer an array of benefits including lodging and per diem of $55 per day. Volunteers must be medically and administratively deployable and a military members of the Texas Military Department. Fill out the form below, contact your readiness NCO.

https://tmd.texas.gov/operation-lone-star-border-support-mission

[Js1 85276]

12 minutes ago, InkaUtexas said:

So we do not have money for schools but we have money for this?

The Texas GOP will absolutely drain the Rainy Day fund to score political points against DC/Dems/Biden.  Schools? HA

[InkaUtexas 25862]

1 minute ago, Js1 said:

The Texas GOP will absolutely drain the Rainy Day fund to score political points against DC/Dems/Biden.  Schools? HA

Except HS football right?

[G650 14242]

2 hours ago, Ghost of LL said:

Because my forebearers had the good sense to leave when the time was right. 

I think my forebearers left England because the lawman suggested it might be prudent

[atomheartbevo 89628]

4 hours ago, HornOnTheBayou said:

In the clash between federal and state governments, there have been four major crises in our country's history: the Nullification Crisis, the Civil War, school integration in the 50s/60s, and this current border issue.

So, three out of the four were about keeping down people of color. But don't worry, everyone, we are totally not a racist country.

Whiskey Rebellion could probably fit in there.  More of a local vs feds, but still.

[jimmyjazz 45888]

I love the Texas Military Department's "Vision" statement:

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Our Vision: America’s premier state military organization comprised of professional mission-ready forces, fully engaged with our communities, and relevant through the 21st century.

Oh, you're premier, professional, fully engaged AND relevant?  Well, stand back!

[David Dennison 18850]

LOL at the idea of Texas seceding.

 

[Longhorn_Fan68 33864]

this is nothing more than distraction tits from the gop. wonder what new scandal is about to drop

I always go back to this in times like these:

[chainsaw 9857]

https://www.verizon.com/about/terms-conditions/terms-of-use/mobile

 

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[Aqua Buddha 14582]

1 hour ago, David Dennison said:

LOL at the idea of Texas seceding.

 

Aggy could finally claim a national title.

[Brisketexan 105066]

10 minutes ago, chainsaw said:

https://www.verizon.com/about/terms-conditions/terms-of-use/mobile

 

 

https://www.t-mobile.com/responsibility/legal/terms-and-conditions

https://www.att.com/legal/terms.consumerServiceAgreement.html

1) like anybody reads those.

2) and your point is.....?

[Longhorn_Fan68 33864]

6 minutes ago, Aqua Buddha said:

Aggy could finally claim a national title.

[F250 28764]

5 hours ago, jimmyjazz said:

I've never owned a gun more powerful than a Crosman C02 BB gun.  That's about to change.  (First, I'm signing up for a class.)

You are an engineer. Just buy some DIY drone kits and let your imagination run wild or checkout the Ukraine thread for inspiration.

 

[RDCanecutter 26381]

9 hours ago, South Austin said:

I’m just a tad concerned about a seceded Texas whose only serious ability to defend itself from foreign invaders is a relatively small collection of guardsman whose buddy grading the  PT test says they did 50 pushups once a year.

fif my NG experience.

Now, the minute a Guardsman goes to an Army school for any kind of training, there are regular, real PT tests, so some will stay in decent shape for that. Or just because they want to. But there'll be the occasional Pillsbury Doughboy who is probably the only one who knows how to fix the widget machine or do the get-paid paperwork. That dude is always pencilled in to the test results.

[South Austin 52453]

25 minutes ago, Aqua Buddha said:

Aggy could finally claim a national title.

Nah. They’d leave for the Union once they go another 10 years without a conference title in the Secessionist Conference.

[hobbes2702 13029]

They also would still have to beat us. The only way aggy is winning a title is if B/CS secedes by itself and forms the nation of Aggystan

[gmr548 16576]

28 minutes ago, Aqua Buddha said:

Aggy could finally claim a national title.

All two of 'em in the 21st century, a peer of UH.

 

[chainsaw 9857]

36 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

1) like anybody reads those.

2) and your point is.....?

Think about ways Joe Biden could deal with this non-violently. If Texas wants to employ 19th century tactics, it should be relegated to 19th century technology.

Edited January 26 by chainsaw

[tx 3 putt 76870]

 

[aggie08 21489]

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Radical right-wing preacher/current GOP candidate

Holy redundancy, Batman.

[Longhorn_Fan68 33864]

21 minutes ago, tx 3 putt said:

 

Edited January 26 by Longhorn_Fan68

[closetohumping 17435]

Seems like Texans not on this board are ready for a fight.  Ok