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GTFO. He's getting rightly raked because he took the coward's way out by pushing a position, and then claiming he was "too busy" to respond to the gaping holes in his argument, but conveniently not to

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I can tell that's fake only because the cadence of the voice changes subtly, but that's because I am very familiar with Abbott.

It is so easy to bite on these things and they are only going to get better (worse).

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3 minutes ago, gmr548 said:

I can tell that's fake only because the cadence of the voice changes subtly, but that's because I am very familiar with Abbott.

It is so easy to bite on these things and they are only going to get better (worse).


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3 minutes ago, gmr548 said:

It is so easy to bite on these things and they are only going to get better (worse).

Hallmark needs to pump out more movies, series, and channels, because I’m going to (quite often) be telling my mom “look mom, it’s fake, and not to change topic, but I hear there’s a new series or movie on Hallmark.”

Long run, this is going to really change up social media, both good and bad.  The Taylor Swift ai-generated porn is the tip of the iceberg.

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On 2/2/2024 at 9:31 AM, atomheartbevo said:

If you need help identifying them…there are dozens of them.

 

Wait...  There was a Chili Cook-off, too?  How else would they lure Ted down there with the promise of headlining another Chili Cook-off? 

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new yorker radio hour 2/2 had a very good episode on this.  plus olivia rodrigo who is hot af. 

https://pod.link/the-new-yorker-radio-hour

 

and nsiap national media is starting to point out the irony of shelby park being the center of this

https://www.cnn.com/2024/02/01/us/shelby-park-texas-border-history-cec/index.html

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and nsiap national media is starting to point out the irony of shelby park being the center of this

https://www.cnn.com/2024/02/01/us/shelby-park-texas-border-history-cec/index.html

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“I see those attitudes now as well,” says Suri, who holds the Mack Brown Distinguished Chair for Leadership in Global Affairs at the University of Texas at Austin. “The reason these exiles are important is they kind of (are used to) legitimize this discussion of secession…which is really sticking your middle finger up at the federal government and saying, ‘we’re going to do it our way, and you can’t make us do it differently.’”

The park’s name, Suri says, reveals more about the current dispute than any argument in the immigration debate. “What this is really about is about power for groups that have power and don’t want to give up power. The naming of that park, rather than naming it Martin Luther King Jr. park or Cesar Chavez park, was an assertion of power, and the irony is that assertion has now become militarized in that space again,” he says.

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I didn't grow up there, but my dad managed and lived on a ranch down near EP in the mid-2000s. His foreman was eventually rounded up by the feds for being a Zetas cartel agent. I hung out with his kids several times, I don't think they even knew. My grandpa was the executor of an estate that held a ranch down outside of Catarina that I went to every year as a kid up until the year I graduated HS. Every single year we would hand food and jugs of water to desperate migrants (I would estimate at least a dozen or so every summer and fall, and sometimes a few in the winter) and they all went on their way after thanking us. Thinking back now about where we were, I doubt even half of them ended up surviving.
I cannot personally imagine how any of these people became so frightened of Mexicans, or whatever other Latin country's denizens they're most afraid of. You have to just spend your life never interacting with anyone outside your shitty Dallas suburb, I guess.

My dad and I did the same on our lease in Del Rio. If I ever obtain that lease again, my son and I will do exactly what my father and I did.
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2 minutes ago, tx 3 putt said:

Hopefully they all kill one another ..

When you have dozens of people in your convoy, the grifters have to fight over every scrap.

LMAO at everybody that was live-streaming.  I wouldn’t be surprised if a bunch of those people weren’t actually Republicans/MAGA.  It’s like the people pushing Qanon bullshit - the people making money from it doesn’t actually believe in it.

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Hopefully they all kill one another ..

 

The constant mic feedback, producing a bastard recreation of every grade-school recorder concert I’ve ever heard, is just the chef’s kiss over all the puffy-chested empty threats.  

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On 2/3/2024 at 8:11 PM, Brisketexan said:

Dear god. These fucking hillbilly dipshit clowns. They’re the worst thing to ever happen to Eagle Pass. I’ve been to EP 1000 times, my dad grew up there. I used to ride a bike all over town, including yes, down to the park. It’s a fucking town with real fucking people, most of them some shade of brown and bilingual. And American citizens. And now they get the UpWhite Citizens Brigade coming down there to lecture and threaten them. Fuck off, you pathetic pieces of shit. Go back to your mobile homes/temples of incest, and leave us the fuck alone.
And Abbott and your crew, that goes for you too.

 

On 2/3/2024 at 8:38 PM, Brian Fantana said:

I didn't grow up there, but my dad managed and lived on a ranch down near EP in the mid-2000s. His foreman was eventually rounded up by the feds for being a Zetas cartel agent. I hung out with his kids several times, I don't think they even knew. My grandpa was the executor of an estate that held a ranch down outside of Catarina that I went to every year as a kid up until the year I graduated HS. Every single year we would hand food and jugs of water to desperate migrants (I would estimate at least a dozen or so every summer and fall, and sometimes a few in the winter) and they all went on their way after thanking us. Thinking back now about where we were, I doubt even half of them ended up surviving.

I cannot personally imagine how any of these people became so frightened of Mexicans, or whatever other Latin country's denizens they're most afraid of. You have to just spend your life never interacting with anyone outside your shitty Dallas suburb, I guess.

Had no idea we had such Eagle Pass representation on the board. I have close relatives own/owned a pecan farm and lived in EP for 100 years probably -- Weyrich Farm. Been to Eagle Pass dozens of times over the years.

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Had no idea we had such Eagle Pass representation on the board. I have close relatives own/owned a pecan farm and lived in EP for 100 years probably -- Weyrich Farm. Been to Eagle Pass dozens of times over the years.

My roots there are as deep as they come -- my GG Grandfather was the first sheriff of Maverick County.  My family has been there since, functionally, the beginning.  We're on both sides of the river -- kind of like how people in Austin live on either side of the river.  EP and PN, for a long-ass time, were damned near a single community.  People go back and forth, shop here and there, work here and there.  You know, just like people in Austin do with the Colorado.  Yes, it's an international border.  So my mexican relatives had a "border card" that was made by US authorities - they presented their information, applied, and then got a card that allowed them to cross back and forth back in the day. 

There are ways to do this.  We figured it out decades ago.  But it's clear as day that the demagogues on the issue don't want a solution, they want a stage where they can grandstand.  Fuck 'em all.

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1 minute ago, Brisketexan said:

My roots there are as deep as they come -- my GG Grandfather was the first sheriff of Maverick County.  My family has been there since, functionally, the beginning.  We're on both sides of the river -- kind of like how people in Austin live on either side of the river.  EP and PN, for a long-ass time, were damned near a single community.  People go back and forth, shop here and there, work here and there.  You know, just like people in Austin do with the Colorado.  Yes, it's an international border.  So my mexican relatives had a "border card" that was made by US authorities - they presented their information, applied, and then got a card that allowed them to cross back and forth back in the day. 

There are ways to do this.  We figured it out decades ago.  But it's clear as day that the demagogues on the issue don't want a solution, they want a stage where they can grandstand.  Fuck 'em all.

Yep. My great grandmother was born and lived in Eagle Pass her entire life until she moved into a nursing home in SA. Taught public school for her entire life. My great aunt (or might've been a cousin technically), who passed away a few years ago, ran the pecan farm/business for decades and also taught school (I think). Her kids own the land now but I think they've shuttered the pecan business as the trees were dying and needed to be replaced and I don't think it was a profitable to keep running as it once was. My great aunt would go back-and-forth all the time. Then she cut it back to going only during daylight hours to not going at all due to the cartel activity in the area.

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22 hours ago, Brisketexan said:

There are ways to do this.  We figured it out decades ago.  But it's clear as day that the demagogues on the issue don't want a solution, they want a stage where they can grandstand.  Fuck 'em all.

Yep. The border counties need support in dealing with the flow of people across the river into their communities. In typical when-all-you-have-is-a-hammer style, the demagogues want to use the military and characterize this as an invasion. 

The solution, as we all know on this thread, is not guns and soldiers. This is a social services crisis as far as I can see. That burden should be moved from local citizens and government to the shoulders of the federal government. 

While the flood of refugees and immigrants remains an inevitability, we should view it as such. Deal with the current realilty while you try to figure things out.

I don't know the solution and, in most ways, am not sure I can describe the problem of these persons wanting to live in the US. If the only argument against them is that they're brining fentanyl, are dangerous criminals, or terrorists, you can conclude that no powerful argument against the immigration exists.

It's obvious that these would-be Americans are not wicked, not a threat, and very closely follow the ideal of immigrants coming here wanting to work hard without fear. 

Of course, being obvious isn't really very persuasive these days. I'm frustrated and baffled by this.

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So they got all riled up for blood lust to go shoot some brown people and are just doing vacation Bible school at a ranch?

Maybe they’ll just start shooting each other 

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