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Just now, ClubWhatever said:

As far as coaching salaries they're  going to have to at least double what they're spending now to have a chance to win something.

No duh. We got RT on the cheap, just like Sark. We will have to match or exceed what it was for Beard ($5m) when, not if, CDC hires someone with skins. Because that he does. Our BB coach budget isn’t going to magically shrink from what he paid for CB 

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I mean high profile sports are a result-oriented business model if there ever was one, and when it comes to year 3 Rodney Terry, where are the results that the The University of Texas presumably should want them to be?  Sadly, all of this manifesting future was highly predictable when the university “settled” for Terry after giving Beard the axe.  You could argue that doing so freed up resources to be thrown at the higher priority football program, but it seems there should be enough resources at Texas to allocate to both programs.  Now whether or not there’s the same interest externally to enhance both programs is up for discussion

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14 hours ago, Hermanator said:

I still contend the AD did the wrong thing firing him. That was a situation that called for a suspension for the season, and rehabilitation with anger management training during suspension. 

Dude has Ole Miss at 15-3 losing to a top 15 team in OT by 3 already. RT can't stay within 20 of Florida. 

2 years later I'm saying the same things I said then. Terrible decision. The program is in shambles and it's their own fault. 

You can't have a leader beating women, then tell the youth to do the right thing to rep the university.

If a player does it, he is gone the next day. The leader can't have a lesser expectation and consequence.

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The 10 highest salaries in CBB are reportedly $9.63M (KU's Self) down to $4.53M (Alabama's Oats).  For reference, Beard made $5.26M, which I presume we would be willing to exceed by quite a bit.  #3 on the current list is Izzo (MSU) at "only" $6.2M, and we're not going to go after him, nor Self or Calipari.  Essentially, money won't stop us from landing whoever we would pursue in the college ranks. 

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35 minutes ago, Slacks said:

You can't have a leader beating women, then tell the youth to do the right thing to rep the university.

If a player does it, he is gone the next day. The leader can't have a lesser expectation and consequence.

Yep should have gone to a hotel as soon as she started pushing his buttons 

Actually should have left her ass in Lubbock 

fuck him

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8 minutes ago, Sawbonz said:

Yep should have gone to a hotel as soon as she started pushing his buttons 

Actually should have left her ass in Lubbock 

fuck him

Yep. All it would have taken was a phone call to CDC

“Hey boss, I’m in a situation and I need to get out of my house tonight until things calm down with Randi” 

“Sure thing Chris, go use my suite at the AT&T conference center. Stay there until things cool off, we have your back” 

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6 hours ago, Slacks said:

You can't have a leader beating women, then tell the youth to do the right thing to rep the university.

If a player does it, he is gone the next day. The leader can't have a lesser expectation and consequence.

Ole Miss is right now and they're top 25 in the country. They obviously aren't having problems getting players to play for him. Where is Texas ranked?

That's the whole point. He was going to get a second chance no matter what in college basketball. The second chance should have come here. Exceptional talents get exceptional leeway for a transgression, it's the American Way. 

The only loser here is the UT Basketball program and it's fans.

If a player does it once he's kicked off the team unless he's an exceptional talent. Then he's suspended for a while. I'm not going to name names, but I personally know of 2 UT football players that had incidents/allegations with domestic violence behind the scenes when I was on campus. Neither was kicked off the team. 

The powers that be need to decide if they want to attempt to be a big player in this sport and challenge for a title. If not, we'll see it with their actions. Right now, I do not believe they are a serious program. So my expectations are extremely low, the goal is making the tournament and nothing more. 

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13 minutes ago, Hermanator said:

Ole Miss is right now a

All due respect fuck you. Ole Miss standard is not what we want 

 

eta I’m all for 2 nd chances and redemption. See Sark. But you don’t get it at the same place you fucked up

 

esp if admin and donors had repeatedly told him to dump her as was rumored 

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43 minutes ago, Hookem2147 said:

Gerry said tonight that if the tournament is missed this year it is “very dicey” for Terry.  Reading between the lines and knowing the relationships he has in the program, that is his nice way of saying Terry would be gone.

Bringing back RT for another year if Texas misses NCAA Tournament would be insane.

 

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On 1/18/2025 at 5:35 PM, Js1 said:

Texas isn’t firing mid season unless RT beats his girlfriend tomorrow 

So, you're saying there's a chance.gif

 

On 1/18/2025 at 5:52 PM, Red Five said:

This is so infuriating, because it's not like Terry was some relatively unknown, up and coming 30 year-old we took a wild chance with. We knew exactly who Rodney Terry was. A very mediocre head coach at schools that Texas wouldn't hire from anyway. In his mid-50s. This is always what was going to happen. 

Pretty much exactly the points I made 22 months ago when Terry was offered the perm gig. This was never a good idea. CDC was backed into the corner by a strong tourney run. Zero chance Terry gets the job if he didn't have the interim job.

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I've been patient with RT but I think it's trending towards him needing to leave at the end of this season. 

Texas should have found a way to take one of these last four (not including OU who is a joke of a fucking program right now) and we got waxed in two of them. 

It should be pretty easy to do better with a new arena and under NIL rules. 

That said the Beard talk is fucking irritating at best at this point. Texas can and do will better this next cycle. Give it a rest. 

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3 hours ago, Hermanator said:

The powers that be need to decide if they want to attempt to be a big player in this sport and challenge for a title. If not, we'll see it with their actions. Right now, I do not believe they are a serious program.

Or maybe, and bear with me here, they might want to aim for a slightly higher ethical standard AND win?  It's not an either/or situation, despite what people like you seem to believe it is.

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1 hour ago, LTtxfan said:

Bringing back RT for another year if Texas misses NCAA Tournament would be insane.

 

It's much more than missing the tournament imo. We are not improving as the season progresses, not beating anyone with a pulse, and are getting blown out by top tier teams. This can't sit well with CDC and the BMDs.

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I had hoped that things would work out with Terry. CDC was pigeonholed into hiring him after the Elite 8 run. He was drastically superior to Shaka as a coach here, but the wheels are beginning to fall off. I'm not so sure Rodney can make things right again. He did a phenomenal job with Beard's players. With Disu gone a glaring weakness really began to show this season. Shedrick is a decent bench player, but he's definitely not a starter and it shows. Tre Johnson is going to be a one and done his year here will end up being wasted. The team is headed towards missing the tourney entirely. I can't see any big upsets being pulled off after what I've witnessed up until this point. I'm not even gonna blame Terry for this, it's all on that colossal moron Chris Beard for getting tangled up with a whack job.

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14 hours ago, Hermanator said:

Ole Miss is right now and they're top 25 in the country. They obviously aren't having problems getting players to play for him. Where is Texas ranked?

That's the whole point. He was going to get a second chance no matter what in college basketball. The second chance should have come here. Exceptional talents get exceptional leeway for a transgression, it's the American Way. 

The only loser here is the UT Basketball program and it's fans.

If a player does it once he's kicked off the team unless he's an exceptional talent. Then he's suspended for a while. I'm not going to name names, but I personally know of 2 UT football players that had incidents/allegations with domestic violence behind the scenes when I was on campus. Neither was kicked off the team. 

The powers that be need to decide if they want to attempt to be a big player in this sport and challenge for a title. If not, we'll see it with their actions. Right now, I do not believe they are a serious program. So my expectations are extremely low, the goal is making the tournament and nothing more. 

So... your reason / excuse for keeping a man who choked a woman is that someone else will give him a chance.

 

Ah, nevermind... I was going to go on about ethics, but.... Nope.

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Somebody up thread mentioned that we don’t have a point guard and referenced our poor assist numbers. Consider that both of our point guards are averaging well under their historical assists per game.

Jordan Pope - 2024: 3.4, 2025: 1.8
Julian Larry - 2024: 4.8, 2025: 3.8

Our offensive system is garbage. I blame Frank Haith as much as Rodney. What a terrible hire that turned out to be.

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11 minutes ago, TejasPedro said:

I have a dream that one day a coach can be fired based upon the content of their team’s character and the on court performance, not kept on purely based on the feels. 

I have a dream that one day college coaches would get performance based contracts instead of ridiculous guaranteed ones based on what they did in the past.

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23 hours ago, Hookem2147 said:

Gerry said tonight that if the tournament is missed this year it is “very dicey” for Terry.

Reading between the lines and knowing the relationships he has in the program, that is his nice way of saying Terry would be gone.

He should be gone even if we make tournament, no chance at that though(making tournament)

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On 1/19/2025 at 10:48 AM, TornACL said:

The fact that the game thread was only two pages says it all about the lack of energy around this program right now.

Yep. I've been a huge Texas Basketball fan since I was a little kid. Right now, I can't even stomach to watch much. It's obvious RT ain't it.

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On 1/20/2025 at 8:04 AM, Chad said:

I had hoped that things would work out with Terry. CDC was pigeonholed into hiring him after the Elite 8 run. He was drastically superior to Shaka as a coach here, but the wheels are beginning to fall off. I'm not so sure Rodney can make things right again. He did a phenomenal job with Beard's players. With Disu gone a glaring weakness really began to show this season. Shedrick is a decent bench player, but he's definitely not a starter and it shows. Tre Johnson is going to be a one and done his year here will end up being wasted. The team is headed towards missing the tourney entirely. I can't see any big upsets being pulled off after what I've witnessed up until this point. I'm not even gonna blame Terry for this, it's all on that colossal moron Chris Beard for getting tangled up with a whack job.

We don't need to rehash this, but I vehemently disagree.

If Texas hired any coach with a decent college basketball performance pedigree, it could have made sense when compared to RT's head coaching history. This is a guy whose résumé would have never been considered for the role under normal circumstances. CDC pigeonholed himself. Shit, Texas didn't give him a contract that spoke confidence around his hiring, either.

Anyways, it would be great for the season to turnaround. But, I have zero hope that it actually will. When Texas misses the tournament, I hope it's enough of a negative trajectory for CDC to hit the eject button on this era of Texas Basketball.

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2 hours ago, MuellerHorn said:

We don't need to rehash this, but I vehemently disagree.

When Rodney took over, the program was in a state of chaos.  RICE took us to overtime the day Beard got arrested.  We barely beat a bad Stanford team, and only beat OU by 1. Then K-State beat us.  It was ugly and most fans felt like the season was lost.

It is easy to dismiss the year as Rodney winning with "Beard's team", but that team could have easily fallen off a cliff and missed the tournament completely.  We closed the year winning 7 of our last 8 (and it could have easily been 11 out of 12 with close losses at Baylor and TCU.  

We hadn't been past the first weekend in 15 years, and Rodney got us to the Elite 8 (and some bad calls from making the Final Four).  We also had two one and done NBA caliber recruits expected to sign.  100 out of 100 Athletic Directors would have given Rodney the job.  He went out and earned it.

That said, just about everyone I know expected his tenure to play out exactly as it has.  We gave him a shot and with his tourney win last year, he delivered more than Shaka did in his six years with the program.  But he is never going to be an elite coach. We will grind and struggle to make the tournament every year and occasionally put together a run. But we aren't a program that will be feared. We aren't ever going to be a top 5 team consistently. So for that, he has to go. The days of settling for mediocrity are over.

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2 hours ago, MuellerHorn said:

Yep. I've been a huge Texas Basketball fan since I was a little kid. Right now, I can't even stomach to watch much. It's obvious RT ain't it.

I've tried to watch several games this year and just end up turning the game off even when we're winning.  It's such bad basketball. The team is so obviously poorly coached that I can't deal with it.

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19 minutes ago, JesusSweatDuck said:

I've tried to watch several games this year and just end up turning the game off even when we're winning.  It's such bad basketball. The team is so obviously poorly coached that I can't deal with it.

Same. When I think back to the decision to hire Terry, the problem is that CDC didn’t want to go with an unpopular decision, unpopular with many fans, important donors/boosters, and even ex-players. Without really understand the full dynamic of the situation, it’s difficult for me to criticize him. 

But most knowledgeable fans knew it was very unlikely to work out. So I’ve just unplugged from them for this year, hoping a change is made, or that Terry makes a miraculous step up as a coach.  

Im a little less worried now about who would replace him. I heard a name from some folks closer to the situation, and while I cannot share it without being kicked out of the trust tree, if Texas did land that coach, we would all be very happy. 

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51 minutes ago, HookEm said:

That said, just about everyone I know expected his tenure to play out exactly as it has.  We gave him a shot and with his tourney win last year, he delivered more than Shaka did in his six years with the program.  But he is never going to be an elite coach. We will grind and struggle to make the tournament every year and occasionally put together a run. But we aren't a program that will be feared. We aren't ever going to be a top 5 team consistently. So for that, he has to go. The days of settling for mediocrity are over.

Yeah, I am quite sure even CDC wasn't stupid enough to think RT was going to be an elite coach and put together an elite program.  In fact, I'd go so far as to speculate, based on the low salary per year, that he knew he'd be looking for a coach in 2-3 years.  But RT had to be the hire based on what he did and who was in his corner. 

I'm sure he has already started the work. And like dbeasy said, Texas fans will be happy with the hire because CDC's external hires have been nails so far. 

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2 hours ago, Dbeasy said:

Same. When I think back to the decision to hire Terry, the problem is that CDC didn’t want to go with an unpopular decision, unpopular with many fans, important donors/boosters, and even ex-players. Without really understand the full dynamic of the situation, it’s difficult for me to criticize him. 

But most knowledgeable fans knew it was very unlikely to work out. So I’ve just unplugged from them for this year, hoping a change is made, or that Terry makes a miraculous step up as a coach.  

Im a little less worried now about who would replace him. I heard a name from some folks closer to the situation, and while I cannot share it without being kicked out of the trust tree, if Texas did land that coach, we would all be very happy. 

I heard it was a coach who's name rhymes with "bick rarnes"

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At this point the only thing that’s going to pack the people in is by getting a record setting snake balloon wrapped around the mood! 
We might need to turn to other gimmicks, face painting section, vip parking spot to be given away at half time.
CDC DM me I got a ton of ideas. 

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22 minutes ago, TejasPedro said:

At this point the only thing that’s going to pack the people in is by getting a record setting snake balloon wrapped around the mood! 
We might need to turn to other gimmicks, face painting section, vip parking spot to be given away at half time.
CDC DM me I got a ton of ideas. 

Well as soon as they completed the snake we crumbled and barely held on to win.  That might have been the fastest collapse of a 20+ point lead I've ever seen.

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2 hours ago, JesusSweatDuck said:

Random question, anyone checked availability of season tickets?  With us sucking, might be a decent time to get a reasonable located seat.

The whole arena less the student section are currently all season tickets. I would imagine there will certainly be some people dumping them.  I am if RT is back. 
The only reason I’m even going at this point is that I have paid for them and I enjoy eating dinner before the game in Germania with a couple of my friends. 

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8 hours ago, Dbeasy said:

Same. When I think back to the decision to hire Terry, the problem is that CDC didn’t want to go with an unpopular decision, unpopular with many fans, important donors/boosters, and even ex-players. Without really understand the full dynamic of the situation, it’s difficult for me to criticize him. 

But most knowledgeable fans knew it was very unlikely to work out. So I’ve just unplugged from them for this year, hoping a change is made, or that Terry makes a miraculous step up as a coach.  

Im a little less worried now about who would replace him. I heard a name from some folks closer to the situation, and while I cannot share it without being kicked out of the trust tree, if Texas did land that coach, we would all be very happy. 

Jay Wright confirmed. Gonna get my tattoo tomorrow.

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