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21 minutes ago, ztejas said:

I didn't stutter. 

I don't know basketball like many of you.  I know z likes Billy D, but are there other dark horse candidates? He pulled Sark who came with coaches and a game plan for the future (and it worked), Schloss on BB who was a given commodity. Other sports seem to be world class still.  Just thinking CDC may have something brewing.  

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36 minutes ago, Sir Ulrich said:

Fastest coach to 50 wins and either a conference tournament or regular season championship in the first 3 years if his career. Also add 2 sweet 16s so far. Thats better than most we have talked about. 

Lloyd would be a big time hire. Anyone thinking it's Oats, Billy Donovan or bust is going to be disappointed. 

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Posted
6 minutes ago, ITHorn said:

Lloyd would be a big time hire. Anyone thinking it's Oats, Billy Donovan or bust is going to be disappointed. 

Lloyd would be appropriate. Wouldn't call that hire "big time". 

I mean (throws up in mouth) this is Texas and I think the money is there. 

I think CDC gets a name here. 

Posted
14 minutes ago, hornlife said:

I don't know basketball like many of you.  I know z likes Billy D, but are there other dark horse candidates? 

Yes, there are. This isn’t a Donovan or bust scenario. Don’t get caught up in that.

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Posted
1 minute ago, ztejas said:

Lloyd would be appropriate. Wouldn't call that hire "big time". 

I mean (throws up in mouth) this is Texas and I think the money is there. 

I think CDC gets a name here. 

I think you're right. We're not going into no-mans land on this. CDC has his football, baseball coach - now his BB coach.  

Posted
9 hours ago, David Dennison said:

He wouldn't leave Houston.

At this point? Probably not due to his age. If he was 5-10 years younger I'm a firm believer that money talks and doubling his salary would pull him away. Texas has more access to NIL resources than Houston. That would appeal to most big names.

Posted
24 minutes ago, hornlife said:

I don't know basketball like many of you.  I know z likes Billy D, but are there other dark horse candidates? He pulled Sark who came with coaches and a game plan for the future (and it worked), Schloss on BB who was a given commodity. Other sports seem to be world class still.  Just thinking CDC may have something brewing.  

If RT is gone CDC already has an agreement with his replacement.  CDC doesn’t wing it

Posted
3 minutes ago, TrashMaster G said:

THAT'S  your objection?

Silly me, I thought it was the final score that mattered.

Oh shit, when do we hang out *Led for 75% of the game in a First Four game* at Moody??

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Posted
7 minutes ago, Chad said:

At this point? Probably not due to his age. If he was 5-10 years younger I'm a firm believer that money talks and doubling his salary would pull him away. Texas has more access to NIL resources than Houston. That would appeal to most big names.

This is a little misguided. 

Posted
8 minutes ago, TrashMaster G said:

THAT'S  your objection?

Silly me, I thought it was the final score that mattered.

It’s pretty clear some of the loudest “fire terry and don’t hire this corch” fans are the ones who don’t even watch (or support) Texas basketball or college basketball in general.
 

Posted
2 minutes ago, chainsaw said:

you don't like seeing possession after possession wasted on bad shots and horrible passes?

Don't kink shame my wet dreams of Pope dribbling the shit out of the ball 

Posted

Scipio Tex's piece late last night was fairly scathing, and pretty much echoes my thoughts. Still waiting to hear from all the people who demanded that we hire Terry.

Spoiler

"The loss to Xavier was a fitting end to a frustrating 19-16 season.

The best players on the court lost, though the better team certainly won.

Poor execution and a deficit of situational IQ against an otherwise outmatched opponent showed up down the stretch and gave the Musketeers hope.

Hope. Then certainty.

The kind of certainty that one gets realizing that they are playing a team without a plan.

Despite their blistering start, the Horns were dominated 47-33 in the 2nd half and the Longhorn staff had no answers when recreational league iso ball fell apart, while on the other end Xavier’s offense shot 55% for the game.

Texas evidenced no coherent offense over the final ten minutes when “Tre or Tramon, make something happen” proved insufficient and a flurry of apologetic step back 3s or drives without a plan demonstrated an offense under pressure without answers.

Over the final stretch, Texas committed critical foolish fouls away from the ball, didn’t box out on a clanked 3 pointer, didn’t identify that Xavier’s bigs can hit open 3’s, Marcus Foster’s preferred spots as a 3 point shooter, and no one on the bench seemed to understand the basic math of the final moments.

Maybe…draw up a play?

Oh well. Flush it.

What happens now is all that matters.

After the Chris Beard debacle, Texas made an optics hire to serve conventional wisdom and happy narrative bullshit. I’m not sure why we would care about serving anything but the interests of our program, but here we are.

Taking the easy and popular road got the expected results. The predicted results.

I held my tongue on Terry after pointing out in multiple venues that hiring interims is generally stupid – particularly this one – but being relentlessly negative after the hire served little purpose other than to denigrate the program, so I did what many of us did – put basketball on the back burner, hoped to be wrong, and waited for reality.

And here it is.

Now Texas decides if it wants to eat a $5.4 million buyout and hire a basketball coach.

Or run it back for another year – perhaps due to a lack of appealing options – and watch the enthusiasm for the only other profit center sport at Texas utterly crater.

Maybe I’ll wait to hear what the conventional wisdom or the most appealing narrative says.

That’s served us so well."

 

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1 minute ago, Red Five said:

Now Texas decides if it wants to eat a $5.4 million buyout and hire a basketball coach.

Or run it back for another year – perhaps due to a lack of appealing options – and watch the enthusiasm for the only other profit center sport at Texas utterly crater.

If those are the only 2 options, I'm 99.9% sure CDC would rather eat the buyout than watch RT struggle to get 80% of the crowd that Vic will next season. 

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Posted
12 minutes ago, Derka said:

i’m beyond sick of this fundamentally unsound, low iq basketball. the next guy needs to be obsessed with playing the right way. that’s a trait that’s shared by pretty much every elite coach in the game.

Yeah, my #1 thing, besides recruiting, is style of play and coaching.

RT lacked the latter two things - his coaching was atrocious and there was no style of play that was pleasing to the eye. 

Posted
Just now, Js1 said:

Yeah, my #1 thing, besides recruiting, is style of play and coaching.

RT lacked the latter two things - his coaching was atrocious and there was no style of play that was pleasing to the eye. 

Undisciplined and poor fundamentals are styles?

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Posted
10 hours ago, ztejas said:

It's amazing that people pay guys like that for info. 

Like I know for a fact that RT is gone and I'm not paying my car insurance through $9.95 residuals. 

All you need is pattern recognition and some insight and to not be a blathering idiot being fed misinformation. There are easily a dozen posters here across every men's big 3 sport that I trust more than Burton or Hamilton. 

They said it on their free podcast 

Posted
Just now, MotownHorn said:

They said it on their free podcast 

Cool then I have the same info that they do for free right here.

I'm not charging anyone for my shit. 

I'm charging myself for being a douchebag.

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Posted
1 hour ago, Pancho said:

It’s pretty clear some of the loudest “fire terry and don’t hire this corch” fans are the ones who don’t even watch (or support) Texas basketball or college basketball in general.
 

I thought Xavier played a very entertaining brand of high tempo basketball last night 

I’d be happy to see that style at Texas 

The 500 lb assistant coach is the only dealbreaker in my mind 

Posted
3 minutes ago, Texas Wahoo said:

LOL

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Jesus Kurt, play this out in your head. Texas very publicly whiffs on all of their targets, for some inexplicable reason. We bring back Terry, who is the lamest duck coach in the history of lame duck coaches. We win about nine games next season while hundreds of people fill the Moody Center for every home game. 

Posted
1 hour ago, Red Five said:

Scipio Tex's piece late last night was fairly scathing, and pretty much echoes my thoughts. Still waiting to hear from all the people who demanded that we hire Terry.

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"The loss to Xavier was a fitting end to a frustrating 19-16 season.

The best players on the court lost, though the better team certainly won.

Poor execution and a deficit of situational IQ against an otherwise outmatched opponent showed up down the stretch and gave the Musketeers hope.

Hope. Then certainty.

The kind of certainty that one gets realizing that they are playing a team without a plan.

Despite their blistering start, the Horns were dominated 47-33 in the 2nd half and the Longhorn staff had no answers when recreational league iso ball fell apart, while on the other end Xavier’s offense shot 55% for the game.

Texas evidenced no coherent offense over the final ten minutes when “Tre or Tramon, make something happen” proved insufficient and a flurry of apologetic step back 3s or drives without a plan demonstrated an offense under pressure without answers.

Over the final stretch, Texas committed critical foolish fouls away from the ball, didn’t box out on a clanked 3 pointer, didn’t identify that Xavier’s bigs can hit open 3’s, Marcus Foster’s preferred spots as a 3 point shooter, and no one on the bench seemed to understand the basic math of the final moments.

Maybe…draw up a play?

Oh well. Flush it.

What happens now is all that matters.

After the Chris Beard debacle, Texas made an optics hire to serve conventional wisdom and happy narrative bullshit. I’m not sure why we would care about serving anything but the interests of our program, but here we are.

Taking the easy and popular road got the expected results. The predicted results.

I held my tongue on Terry after pointing out in multiple venues that hiring interims is generally stupid – particularly this one – but being relentlessly negative after the hire served little purpose other than to denigrate the program, so I did what many of us did – put basketball on the back burner, hoped to be wrong, and waited for reality.

And here it is.

Now Texas decides if it wants to eat a $5.4 million buyout and hire a basketball coach.

Or run it back for another year – perhaps due to a lack of appealing options – and watch the enthusiasm for the only other profit center sport at Texas utterly crater.

Maybe I’ll wait to hear what the conventional wisdom or the most appealing narrative says.

That’s served us so well."

 

 

I’m not sure if one person who was saying “just hire RT, he deserves it” or some shit like that has even shown up to eat crow. If I remember correctly, most of those dudes were the bros who don’t even watch Texas basketball and only watch during the tournament. 

There were plenty of us on here screaming at anyone who would listen that hiring him permanently was the worst, absolute worst, mistake The University could make. 

And here we are.

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Posted
53 minutes ago, Js1 said:

Yeah, my #1 thing, besides recruiting, is style of play and coaching.

RT lacked the latter two things - his coaching was atrocious and there was no style of play that was pleasing to the eye. 

 

And the team had no discipline. Them talking shit and starting shit during the Alabama game when Alabama was murdering us on our home court was such a terrible, juvenile look.

Posted
1 minute ago, Pancho said:

 

I’m not sure if one person who was saying “just hire RT, he deserves it” or some shit like that has even shown up to eat crow. If I remember correctly, most of those dudes were the bros who don’t even watch Texas basketball and only watch during the tournament. 

There were plenty of us on here screaming at anyone who would listen that hiring him permanently was the worst, absolute worst, mistake The University could make. 

And here we are.

But Texas was never not going to hire him after that run. The hire should have surprised no one.

Posted
35 minutes ago, ztejas said:

Cool then I have the same info that they do for free right here.

I'm not charging anyone for my shit. 

I'm charging myself for being a douchebag.

That must be expensive

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Posted
27 minutes ago, Pancho said:

 

I’m not sure if one person who was saying “just hire RT, he deserves it” or some shit like that has even shown up to eat crow. If I remember correctly, most of those dudes were the bros who don’t even watch Texas basketball and only watch during the tournament. 

There were plenty of us on here screaming at anyone who would listen that hiring him permanently was the worst, absolute worst, mistake The University could make. 

And here we are.

Eh. I thought they had to hire him after the elite eight run even though it was unlikely to work out long-term. Like most people thought, it didn’t work out, and now we are looking for a new coach two years later.  If that’s the result of the “absolute worst mistake” the University could make, I guess we’re pretty fortunate. 

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The only people that thought “we had to hire Terry” after that EE run are Texas fans who put too much emphasis on perception. 

No one else would have cared if we said thanks but no thanks and hired someone else. The news cycle moves too quickly for people to get caught up in that for more than 48 hours. 

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Posted
Just now, Pancho said:

The only people that thought “we had to hire Terry” after that EE run are Texas fans who put too much emphasis on perception. 

No one else would have cared if we said thanks but no thanks and hired someone else. The news cycle moves too quickly for people to get caught up in that for more than 48 hours. 

There are few institutions that put more emphasis on perception than the University of Texas.

The hiring of Rodney Terry in 2023 was one of the least shocking things imaginable.

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10 minutes ago, Pancho said:

The only people that thought “we had to hire Terry” after that EE run are Texas fans who put too much emphasis on perception. 

No one else would have cared if we said thanks but no thanks and hired someone else. The news cycle moves too quickly for people to get caught up in that for more than 48 hours. 

The same could really be said about firing Beard. 

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Posted
1 minute ago, po elvis said:

The same could really be said about firing Beard. 

you really can’t expect to keep your job after your lawyer basically sends your boss a letter that says “how about you eat my ass?”

Posted
9 minutes ago, Js1 said:

you really can’t expect to keep your job after your lawyer basically sends your boss a letter that says “how about you eat my ass?”

Depends on the AD!

Drew Martin would like to have a word with you. 

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