Fire Rodney Terry

[wood 11183]

59 minutes ago, The_Great_Hornsby said:

Nice try aggy

Nah I agree with him and have said the same in the past. Glad to see someone else saying it. If we owned it up, down, and sideways, everyone else would stop. There would be no fun left in it for 'em. Ask UGa what happens when Bevo puts his Horns down. Nothing good for UGa. That much is certain.

But if we're not gonna do that, there's no point getting all upset about it when opponents do it. They make themselves look like idiots anyway, not us.

[jimmyjazz 45567]

Not sure about all sports, but we'd probably be drawing flags in football almost immediately.

[MotownHorn 1733]

20 hours ago, Knoxtnhorn said:

In being on the spectrum, I have a hard time seeing gray areas.  Therefore, I compartmentalize.  Here's the way I see it.  And, I'm not trying to change anyone's mind so don't @ me.  

Make it to the Round of 16 - he's our guy.

Barely miss the tourney or lose in the round of 32 - he deserves another year.

Flame out, finish in the bottom 3 of the conference, no tourney sniffing - make a change.

Quit being reasonable!

[freyguy 4245]

Sit in the UT student section after a loss to ou in Dallas.  The horns down is the kindest gesture you will see from the opposing players.

Edited January 22 by freyguy

[dcar00 14036]

Maybe in a couple of years we can go get Jerome Tang.

[closetohumping 17408]

4 hours ago, freyguy said:

Sit in the UT student section after a loss to ou in Dallas.  The horns down is the kindest gesture you will see from the opposing players.

I was here for the Mack years. Got to a point where sooner fans were saying “keep your chin up.  This series always turns on a dime”

[shadow_operative 15932]

tang still has a lot to prove before a program like texas should take a flier on him. last year with keyonte george and marquise nowell their offense was simply “aight”. this season their offense is terrible and sloppy, and they’ve struggled to put away crappy teams and have some bad losses too. of all the young, talented coaches who aren’t necessarily tied down, tommy lloyd is the guy. in fact as far as i can tell lloyd is the only potentially available guy who is on or even anywhere near beard’s level. 

[DigDug 1649]

Do not backpedal 

[Braff Zacklin 13429]

6 minutes ago, DigDug said:

Do not backpedal 

[VinyVango 677]

tang still has a lot to prove before a program like texas should take a flier on him. last year with keyonte george and marquise nowell their offense was simply “aight”. this season their offense is terrible and sloppy, and they’ve struggled to put away crappy teams and have some bad losses too. of all the young, talented coaches who aren’t necessarily tied down, tommy lloyd is the guy. in fact as far as i can tell lloyd is the only potentially available guy who is on or even anywhere near beard’s level. 

I like Tommy Lloyd … I thought George played for Baylor not KSU

[shadow_operative 15932]

7 minutes ago, VinyVango said:

I like Tommy Lloyd … I thought George played for Baylor not KSU

i do this all the time now with names. Keyontae Johnson*, the florida transfer. so many keyontae’s, it’s easy to get them mixed up. 

Edited January 23 by shadow_operative

[Pancho 44497]

2 hours ago, shadow_operative said:

tang still has a lot to prove before a program like texas should take a flier on him. last year with keyonte george and marquise nowell their offense was simply “aight”. this season their offense is terrible and sloppy, and they’ve struggled to put away crappy teams and have some bad losses too. of all the young, talented coaches who aren’t necessarily tied down, tommy lloyd is the guy. in fact as far as i can tell lloyd is the only potentially available guy who is on or even anywhere near beard’s level. 

 

Arizona just fired their AD. I don’t see Lloyd leaving Arizona as it sounds like they are trying to figure it out. I’d also argue Arizona is a better job than Texas but Texas has such a huge upside.

[hobbes2702 12850]

26 minutes ago, Pancho said:

 

Arizona just fired their AD. I don’t see Lloyd leaving Arizona as it sounds like they are trying to figure it out. I’d also argue Arizona is a better job than Texas but Texas has such a huge upside.

[Js1 85140]

14 hours ago, Pancho said:

 

Arizona just fired their AD. I don’t see Lloyd leaving Arizona as it sounds like they are trying to figure it out. I’d also argue Arizona is a better job than Texas but Texas has such a huge upside.

They fired their AD for financial mismanagement and have a huge financial issue with their athletics department period ($240m shortfall). 

He's paid $4.1 million - you don't think we could offer him $5+ million within the next 13 months with actual athletic department/director stability? Just look at how the AD/BOR bungled Fisch's extension and couldn't even get a new offer out to Nansen to convince him to stay in Tucson. 

[Pancho 44497]

39 minutes ago, Js1 said:

They fired their AD for financial mismanagement and have a huge financial issue with their athletics department period ($240m shortfall). 

He's paid $4.1 million - you don't think we could offer him $5+ million within the next 13 months with actual athletic department/director stability? Just look at how the AD/BOR bungled Fisch's extension and couldn't even get a new offer out to Nansen to convince him to stay in Tucson. 

[dcar00 14036]

lloyd is interesting.  lot like Tang in assistant for a long time at one school.  the only issue is him potentially wanting to go back to Gonzaga once Few retires but if he's successful at Texas the money is big.

has euro connections also

[BigOrange1 6422]

Lloyd would be a homerun no doubt.  Before it became obvious that Terry was going to get the job last year, Lloyd was easily my #1 choice.

[closetojumping 62258]

1 hour ago, BigOrange1 said:

Lloyd would be a homerun no doubt.  Before it became obvious that Terry was going to get the job last year, Lloyd was easily my #1 choice.

Would you have taken Few or Miller over LLoyd after last season?

[shadow_operative 15932]

2 minutes ago, closetojumping said:

Would you have taken Few or Miller over LLoyd after last season?

nope. few is never leaving where he’s at and he’s old, and i have no interest in miller. lloyd is (to me) the best potentially available young coach by a wide margin. his recruiting ethos and play style set him apart from the pack. 

[MuellerHorn 4198]

4 minutes ago, shadow_operative said:

nope. few is never leaving where he’s at and he’s old, and i have no interest in miller. lloyd is (to me) the best potentially available young coach by a wide margin. his recruiting ethos and play style set him apart from the pack. 

I agree with this. A Gonzaga-style (national scope + overseas) recruiting machine at Texas would be a force.

[closetojumping 62258]

11 minutes ago, shadow_operative said:

nope. few is never leaving where he’s at and he’s old, and i have no interest in miller. lloyd is (to me) the best potentially available young coach by a wide margin. his recruiting ethos and play style set him apart from the pack. 

You know enough people to ask about this, but after Beard was out, supposedly conversations with Few were real. He was awestruck by the experience at Moody and viewed Texas as fallow ground for becoming a title winning legend. He was willing to give it a 10-15 year go. Allegedly. 

[MuellerHorn 4198]

1 minute ago, closetojumping said:

You know enough people to ask about this, but after Beard was out, supposedly conversations with Few were real. He was awestruck by the experience at Moody and viewed Texas as fallow ground for becoming a title winning legend. He was willing to give it a 10-15 year go. Allegedly. 

You mean to tell me that Texas could have hired Few over RT?...

[closetojumping 62258]

1 minute ago, MuellerHorn said:

You mean to tell me that Texas could have hired Few over RT?...

Once it went to the Sweet 16, pretty much everything fell apart for any other option but Terry. Anyone acting like Terry was the choice the whole way is full of shit and anyone acting like CDC didn't have a big deal lined up ahead of the Sweet 16 is being willfully ignorant.

[BigOrange1 6422]

23 minutes ago, closetojumping said:

Would you have taken Few or Miller over LLoyd after last season?

My working assumption was that Few was not realistic.  But if your below post is correct, then yeah i'd take him over Lloyd.  I'd want Lloyd over Miller though.  I really like the European connections he has and think it can be used as a competitive advantage over most every other program in the nation.

6 minutes ago, closetojumping said:

You know enough people to ask about this, but after Beard was out, supposedly conversations with Few were real. He was awestruck by the experience at Moody and viewed Texas as fallow ground for becoming a title winning legend. He was willing to give it a 10-15 year go. Allegedly. 

 

[dcar00 14036]

Few has as DUI.

[Wilcox Cummingtonite 2872]

Damn CDC is a fucking idiot if that’s true. 

[Dbeasy 14974]

What kept me off the ledge when Texas hired Terry was the belief that no other top coach was available. If that’s not true, that makes the hire even worse. 

[HookEm 2448]

I've never heard anyone claim that Terry was the choice all the way.  In fact, I posted a poll asking what Terry needed to do to earn the job (I believe after we won the Big-12 Tourney), and almost nobody felt he had already earned it.  Most of the fans felt he had to make a Sweet 16 at a minimum, and a good number felt he didn't deserve it even with a Final Four.

Few is one of the few (pun intended) coaches who would have been worth the blowback from not hiring Terry.  The outrage would have passed like a fart in the wind with that hire.  And then Terry would have been hired by someone like Tulsa.

CDC is a legit moron if he passed on that opportunity.  I know he isn't a moron, so it makes me question the validity of the claim.  It sounds more like Few was angling for a raise.

[CTC2 2747]

2 hours ago, closetojumping said:

You know enough people to ask about this, but after Beard was out, supposedly conversations with Few were real. He was awestruck by the experience at Moody and viewed Texas as fallow ground for becoming a title winning legend. He was willing to give it a 10-15 year go. Allegedly. 

If this is true our guys are as stupid as the athletic department  is rich. There is no excuse for caving to media and social pressure if this deal could have been worked out.  It’s almost such a no brainer that I can hardly believe it. 

[closetojumping 62258]

2 hours ago, longhornmatt said:

If we really hired Rodney Terry for not even going to the Final Four when Mark Few was willing to commit to 10 years here, then CDC should be fired.  Any media outrage would have lasted 2 seconds until we hired Few, and then everyone would talk about what an amazing hire we managed.  This can’t be real.

 

18 minutes ago, HookEm said:

I've never heard anyone claim that Terry was the choice all the way.  In fact, I posted a poll asking what Terry needed to do to earn the job (I believe after we won the Big-12 Tourney), and almost nobody felt he had already earned it.  Most of the fans felt he had to make a Sweet 16 at a minimum, and a good number felt he didn't deserve it even with a Final Four.

Few is one of the few (pun intended) coaches who would have been worth the blowback from not hiring Terry.  The outrage would have passed like a fart in the wind with that hire.  And then Terry would have been hired by someone like Tulsa.

CDC is a legit moron if he passed on that opportunity.  I know he isn't a moron, so it makes me question the validity of the claim.  It sounds more like Few was angling for a raise.

 

11 minutes ago, CTC2 said:

If this is true our guys are as stupid as the athletic department  is rich. There is no excuse for caving to media and social pressure if this deal could have been worked out.  It’s almost such a no brainer that I can hardly believe it. 

I'm not going to die on the hill that this rumor is a fact. The two places in which this was told to me are highly reliable and credible. I alluded to this on one of the threads during the tournament. Maybe it was the "what does RT need to do to get the job" kind of thread. I said at the time that the rumors were so absurd that I couldn't bring myself to post them. There's been enough time, no one is getting burned, and the only risk is that I am viewed as a fool for thinking this stuff was viable and posting about it. 

The word was that Miller would take the job, yep, let's go. Calipari would take it for $10M+ if he had carte blanche. Texas wasn't feeling great about doubling the football coach's salary for the hoops guy, but that could be overcome. But Few, whether he has an agent or not, I do not know, but had made it clear he had an interest. 

In the end, no one else had the same zeal for the role given what Texas was able to do in the tournament. None of the coaches, none of the money people, the admin, CDC, etc. We can look back at it with hindsight, but in the moment, no one was thinking anything other than the notion that Terry was getting the job.

[Pancho 44497]

Some of you are overreacting. CTJ said “supposedly” and “allegedly.” He didn’t say the Few story definitely happened.

[tx 3 putt 76422]

[closetohumping 17408]

Miller may be 5x the coach that Rodney is but we were mot gonna hire him once Rodney beat him in the tourney.   You know where it would’ve gone.  

[ztejas 43266]

3 hours ago, longhornmatt said:

then CDC should be fired.

Dude this isn't Kansas. We aren't firing our AD because a lot of fans don't like half a season of the new basketball coach. CDC's football hire just finished 3rd in the country in his 3rd season here.

[closetohumping 17408]

1 minute ago, ztejas said:

Dude this isn't Kansas. We aren't firing our AD because a lot of fans don't like half a season of the new basketball coach. CDC's football hire just finished 3rd in the country in his 3rd season here.

And he’s crushed every other hire 

[jimmyjazz 45567]

Even if ctj's story is largely true, it doesn't mean Few was a sure thing.  He (more than most) seems like a guy who doesn't fall prey to the greener grass syndrome.  He's built a juggernaut where he is, and if the money and the lifestyle fit, then he's probably loathe to leave.  Regardless, it tends to give credence to the idea that Texas is a destination job. 

[BurntOrangeBlooded15 1564]

2 hours ago, ztejas said:

Dude this isn't Kansas. We aren't firing our AD because a lot of fans don't like half a season of the new basketball coach. CDC's football hire just finished 3rd in the country in his 3rd season here.

Since CDC got here in 2017, Texas athletics have finished the following in the directors cup.  
 

1st - 20-21, 21-22

2nd - 22-23

4th - 18-19

5th - 17-18

and there wasn’t a directors cup awarded in 2019-20. 
 

And set the record for most money made by an athletic department this last year. 
 

He’s not leaving for not hiring a coach for a sport most people don’t care too much about as a whole. 

[freyguy 4245]

RT should be fired for blowing out an overrated ou team we should have blown out anyway....

[BurntOrangeBlooded15 1564]

Fuck OU

[Helobious 9483]

How far does a win at a top 12 Oklahoma set the program back?

[Slacks 6792]

Not tonight. 

[dcar00 14036]

Well done RT, well done

[shadow_operative 15932]

19 minutes ago, Helobious said:

How far does a win at a top 12 Oklahoma set the program back?

i don’t ask for much, but could you please start leading the “RT sucks” charge? 

Edited January 24 by shadow_operative

[Braff Zacklin 13429]

Two very impressive wins, back to back. Way too many turnovers for my liking, but the offense moved and shot well. And the guys got after those boards.

[ChickenSandwich 9798]

Props to RT for mixing up the lineups and getting guys to play their role. Next up. 

[Pam Cummings 9588]

.....don't fire Rodney Terry?

[Mile High Horn 11]

RT owns Baylor, OU, and all of you.

 

[petscii 1189]

37 minutes ago, Mile High Horn said:

RT owns Baylor, OU, and all of you.

 

DOES HE HAVE GREENSLEEVES?

[Mr Shrimp Unlimited 97]

On 1/22/2024 at 1:52 PM, shadow_operative said:

tang still has a lot to prove before a program like texas should take a flier on him. last year with keyonte george and marquise nowell their offense was simply “aight”. this season their offense is terrible and sloppy, and they’ve struggled to put away crappy teams and have some bad losses too. of all the young, talented coaches who aren’t necessarily tied down, tommy lloyd is the guy. in fact as far as i can tell lloyd is the only potentially available guy who is on or even anywhere near beard’s level. 

You don't know jack shit about CBB, starting from the claim that Keyonte George played at KSU and that their offense was "aight" which is laughable and that's being really generous. Everything else you say is therefore null and void, do better big dawg. 

Edited January 24 by Mr Shrimp Unlimited

[shadow_operative 15932]

6 minutes ago, Mr Shrimp Unlimited said:

You don't know jack shit about CBB, starting from the claim that Keyonte George played at KSU and that their offense was "aight" which is laughable and that's being really generous. Everything else you say is therefore null and void, do better big dawg. 

yeah, accidentally typing keyontae george instead of keyontae johnson, how terrible!

and yeah, last year’s k state offense was nothing special despite having two all american players leading the way. they finished 37th in AdjO (which was the 5th best AdjO in the 10-team Big XII) and that was after their tourney run. besides that their national statistical rankings were extremely “aight”:

 

jerome tang is far from an offensive mastermind, and as good as k state was last year, they absolutely could have/should have been better offensively.