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2 hours ago, Im_smarter_then_you said:

Maybe he’s already had enough?  

Anyone who thinks CDC hasn't put out feelers and lined up potential hires has not been paying attention to how CDC operates

He's probably even got UTEP or someone ready to take RT too

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9 minutes ago, MotownHorn said:

Anyone who thinks CDC hasn't put out feelers and lined up potential hires has not been paying attention to how CDC operates

He's probably even got UTEP or someone ready to take RT too

He can go to Tech if the Drew/McCasland shuffle happens. 

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Kirk Bohls (I know) says he is hearing a change is likely to be made.

AUSTIN — My eyes still hurt.

I don’t know if you watched the eyesore that was the Texas men’s basketball game against South Carolina on Saturday night, but I did. And I still have a migraine.

A week after knocking off No. 15 Kentucky to snap a three-game losing streak, the Longhorns put out a woeful performance, arguably the worst of the season although there are a lot of candidates, and became the first SEC team to lose to the dreadful Gamecocks.

It’s painful to review but Texas trailed by 18 at the half, and it got worse from there before the Longhorns fell 84-69 to drop to 16-11 overall and back on the NCAA Tournament bubble. They are only 7-11 in quad 1 and 2 victories and have no eye-popping non-conference wins to tout.

With the road loss, Texas’ chances of making the NCAA tourney slip drastically from 67% to 52%, according to the ESPN Analytics model. The Longhorns are only 3-9 against top-50 teams, Joe Lunardi hasn’t updated his projections since Friday’s field, which included Texas unbelievably as a 9 seed. CBSsports.com, however, dropped Texas from its bracket as Jerry Palm listed it as the very first team out, its 38 NET ranking notwithstanding.

Not only that, it ratchets up the scrutiny and pressure on Rodney Terry to deliver in a big way down the stretch to save his job.

After talking to some big-time Texas figures, I’d say at the moment Terry is in a must-win situation and probably has to win at least two games in the SEC, get into the NCAA field of 68 and maybe win two games there.

That’s how dire it’s looking for RT.

Texas squandered its good position with a hideous effort against South Carolina, in which freshman Tre Johnson was the lone standout with 29 points, 20 of them in the second half. No other Longhorns had more than 9 points.

Chris Del Conte never weighs in on the future of a Longhorn coach during the season, but he is always super aggressive about getting his ducks in a row to react quickly once the final buzzer has sounded.

It won’t be unrealistic if Texas bottoms out and the Texas athletic director fires Terry and hires his replacement all in a weekend’s time.

Money will be a huge factor in this decision because Terry has three years left on his contract and would be owed $6 million as a buyout. Obviously, Texas would have to consider high-level candidates whose contracts would also contain a big buyout that it would have to pay off. Throw in the existing staff contracts, and the school might have to pony up $20 million or more to pull this off, which is no small sum.

Terry was never Del Conte’s preferred coach, but Chris Beard’s top assistant earned the promotion to head coach by stabilizing the season when Beard was fired at midseason and taking an overachieving Longhorn team to the Elite Eight and the brink of a Final Four.

Texas would feel some public backlash for firing an African-American basketball coach — only the second in school history — and making a change after he had had just two full seasons. But Del Conte will have to weigh public opinion, gauge how much slippage the program has undergone and figure out how big he goes in a coaching search.

As of the end of February, I’d say the decision is trending toward a new coach for 2025-26.

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3 hours ago, Hookem2147 said:

Kirk Bohls (I know) says he is hearing a change is likely to be made.

AUSTIN — My eyes still hurt.

I don’t know if you watched the eyesore that was the Texas men’s basketball game against South Carolina on Saturday night, but I did. And I still have a migraine.

A week after knocking off No. 15 Kentucky to snap a three-game losing streak, the Longhorns put out a woeful performance, arguably the worst of the season although there are a lot of candidates, and became the first SEC team to lose to the dreadful Gamecocks.

It’s painful to review but Texas trailed by 18 at the half, and it got worse from there before the Longhorns fell 84-69 to drop to 16-11 overall and back on the NCAA Tournament bubble. They are only 7-11 in quad 1 and 2 victories and have no eye-popping non-conference wins to tout.

With the road loss, Texas’ chances of making the NCAA tourney slip drastically from 67% to 52%, according to the ESPN Analytics model. The Longhorns are only 3-9 against top-50 teams, Joe Lunardi hasn’t updated his projections since Friday’s field, which included Texas unbelievably as a 9 seed. CBSsports.com, however, dropped Texas from its bracket as Jerry Palm listed it as the very first team out, its 38 NET ranking notwithstanding.

Not only that, it ratchets up the scrutiny and pressure on Rodney Terry to deliver in a big way down the stretch to save his job.

After talking to some big-time Texas figures, I’d say at the moment Terry is in a must-win situation and probably has to win at least two games in the SEC, get into the NCAA field of 68 and maybe win two games there.

That’s how dire it’s looking for RT.

Texas squandered its good position with a hideous effort against South Carolina, in which freshman Tre Johnson was the lone standout with 29 points, 20 of them in the second half. No other Longhorns had more than 9 points.

Chris Del Conte never weighs in on the future of a Longhorn coach during the season, but he is always super aggressive about getting his ducks in a row to react quickly once the final buzzer has sounded.

It won’t be unrealistic if Texas bottoms out and the Texas athletic director fires Terry and hires his replacement all in a weekend’s time.

Money will be a huge factor in this decision because Terry has three years left on his contract and would be owed $6 million as a buyout. Obviously, Texas would have to consider high-level candidates whose contracts would also contain a big buyout that it would have to pay off. Throw in the existing staff contracts, and the school might have to pony up $20 million or more to pull this off, which is no small sum.

Terry was never Del Conte’s preferred coach, but Chris Beard’s top assistant earned the promotion to head coach by stabilizing the season when Beard was fired at midseason and taking an overachieving Longhorn team to the Elite Eight and the brink of a Final Four.

Texas would feel some public backlash for firing an African-American basketball coach — only the second in school history — and making a change after he had had just two full seasons. But Del Conte will have to weigh public opinion, gauge how much slippage the program has undergone and figure out how big he goes in a coaching search.

As of the end of February, I’d say the decision is trending toward a new coach for 2025-26.

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4 hours ago, Hookem2147 said:

Kirk Bohls (I know) says he is hearing a change is likely to be made.

AUSTIN — My eyes still hurt.

I don’t know if you watched the eyesore that was the Texas men’s basketball game against South Carolina on Saturday night, but I did. And I still have a migraine.

A week after knocking off No. 15 Kentucky to snap a three-game losing streak, the Longhorns put out a woeful performance, arguably the worst of the season although there are a lot of candidates, and became the first SEC team to lose to the dreadful Gamecocks.

It’s painful to review but Texas trailed by 18 at the half, and it got worse from there before the Longhorns fell 84-69 to drop to 16-11 overall and back on the NCAA Tournament bubble. They are only 7-11 in quad 1 and 2 victories and have no eye-popping non-conference wins to tout.

With the road loss, Texas’ chances of making the NCAA tourney slip drastically from 67% to 52%, according to the ESPN Analytics model. The Longhorns are only 3-9 against top-50 teams, Joe Lunardi hasn’t updated his projections since Friday’s field, which included Texas unbelievably as a 9 seed. CBSsports.com, however, dropped Texas from its bracket as Jerry Palm listed it as the very first team out, its 38 NET ranking notwithstanding.

Not only that, it ratchets up the scrutiny and pressure on Rodney Terry to deliver in a big way down the stretch to save his job.

After talking to some big-time Texas figures, I’d say at the moment Terry is in a must-win situation and probably has to win at least two games in the SEC, get into the NCAA field of 68 and maybe win two games there.

That’s how dire it’s looking for RT.

Texas squandered its good position with a hideous effort against South Carolina, in which freshman Tre Johnson was the lone standout with 29 points, 20 of them in the second half. No other Longhorns had more than 9 points.

Chris Del Conte never weighs in on the future of a Longhorn coach during the season, but he is always super aggressive about getting his ducks in a row to react quickly once the final buzzer has sounded.

It won’t be unrealistic if Texas bottoms out and the Texas athletic director fires Terry and hires his replacement all in a weekend’s time.

Money will be a huge factor in this decision because Terry has three years left on his contract and would be owed $6 million as a buyout. Obviously, Texas would have to consider high-level candidates whose contracts would also contain a big buyout that it would have to pay off. Throw in the existing staff contracts, and the school might have to pony up $20 million or more to pull this off, which is no small sum.

Terry was never Del Conte’s preferred coach, but Chris Beard’s top assistant earned the promotion to head coach by stabilizing the season when Beard was fired at midseason and taking an overachieving Longhorn team to the Elite Eight and the brink of a Final Four.

Texas would feel some public backlash for firing an African-American basketball coach — only the second in school history — and making a change after he had had just two full seasons. But Del Conte will have to weigh public opinion, gauge how much slippage the program has undergone and figure out how big he goes in a coaching search.

As of the end of February, I’d say the decision is trending toward a new coach for 2025-26.

Fuck that douchenozzle Kurt.

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Posted (edited)

Its actually infuriating that fucking punk Bowels would deign to talk about his eyes burning while watching a Texas game.  All that guy has done for 40+ years is fuck the University of Texas with his bullshit.  man, I would love to punch that dude in his fuckface.

and yep - he said we needed to "do the right thing" and hire Terry.

https://www.statesman.com/story/sports/columns/2023/03/19/its-time-for-texas-to-hire-rodney-terry-before-someone-else-does/70025320007/

 

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On 2/23/2025 at 1:37 PM, UTGrad98 said:

I am dumbfounded we had to give this guy 3 years because of optics.

Imagine trying to recruit high school recruits if you are on a year to year contract. Imagine trying to get decent assistant coaches.  His contract was the minimum we could give him and still have any appearance of stability with the program.  And in the end, the contract length won't matter at all when we decide to get rid of him.

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14 minutes ago, HookEm said:

Imagine trying to recruit high school recruits if you are on a year to year contract. Imagine trying to get decent assistant coaches.  His contract was the minimum we could give him and still have any appearance of stability with the program.  And in the end, the contract length won't matter at all when we decide to get rid of him.

People seriously act like we gave him a Jimbo contract and not the absolute bare minimum deal you have to give a coach to be able to recruit and hire staff. We gave him a contract that we could easily get out of

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10 minutes ago, Js1 said:

People seriously act like we gave him a Jimbo contract and not the absolute bare minimum deal you have to give a coach to be able to recruit and hire staff. We gave him a contract that we could easily get out of

Exactly and his buyout was only $7.2 million of the $15.3 million dollar 5 year deal. Does anyone know how his buyout is structured? I'd assume you just divide $7.2 by 5 years and remove 2 of that number from the total. Wonder if there is a target date where it reduces a 3rd time sometime shortly after the season? If so you're looking at $2.9 million buyout potentially which is cheaper than another year, right?

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On 2/23/2025 at 11:37 AM, UTGrad98 said:

I am dumbfounded we had to give this guy 3 years because of optics. Simply dumbfounded. Were we that worried the media and fans would have called us insensitive and racist for simply replacing an interim head coach after the elite 8 year finished up. I mean its clear as day those were Beards players and Terry just rode that team to the elite 8. I am simply in awe this happened. The only grace from this is it's now less likely to happen again this way in the future.

How many years would you have given him?

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20 hours ago, Hookem2147 said:

Texas would feel some public backlash for firing an African-American basketball coach — only the second in school history — and making a change after he had had just two full seasons.

Oh bullshit. Everyone knew we'd be firing him in two or three years and we did it anyway. Move on. 

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13 minutes ago, Red Five said:

Oh bullshit. Everyone knew we'd be firing him in two or three years and we did it anyway. Move on. 

That is absolute bullshit.

Yes, he took us the Elite 8.  His record since then:

21-13 (7th in the Big 12), second round
16-11 (currently 11th in the SEC), bubble team

I guess it's only not racist if you wait until we are 14-14 and dead last in the SEC next year to fire him, or something. 

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I think everyone is on the same page on this one.

BLM- “HEY HEY HO HO RT has got to go!”

12 Angry Black Men- “Rodney who?”

Spike Lee- “Don’t let RT get on the bus, do the right thing, and fire his ass!”

No blacklash….. 

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7 minutes ago, Im_smarter_then_you said:

Then you’re setting up to fail. Doesn’t seem like he needed your help but at least pretend you want him.  I think Chris played this right

That was a joke.  Some people seem to think we could have gotten away with giving RT a year-to-year deal, which would have made Texas/CDC look cheap and shitty.  That would have been more a backlash than firing RT after 2 full seasons. 

No coach would take a year-to-year deal, because assistants don't want to take the job for maybe a year, if you don't get renewed, and players with multiple years of eligibility want stability. 

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This fear of being labeled racist has to go.  We've hired a Black head football coach and two Black head basketball coaches, not to mention a ton of Black assistant coaches.  Anyone who sees the firing of a Black coach as "racist" is not worth worrying about.

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Is Indiana racist for firing Mike Woodson?  I must have missed all those articles.  Was Michigan racist for firing Juwan Howard?

Is there's a specific win-loss threshold for determining racist intent? 

It's all so stupid. 

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42 minutes ago, Im_smarter_then_you said:

How many years would you have given him?

I wouldn't have even opened the box. Make it clear you are doing everything you can to find a basketball coach to ensure continuity of the program. Thank Terry for his 3 months as interim coach. Once you allowed for Terry to have the job after that first 3 months, then you had to give him 3 years minimum. 

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2 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

This fear of being labeled racist has to go.  We've hired a Black head football coach and two Black head basketball coaches, not to mention a ton of Black assistant coaches.  Anyone who sees the firing of a Black coach as "racist" is not worth worrying about.

 

Yes, and calling both Terry and Charlie “experiments” for their coaching tenures is tasteless and needs to stop. This isn’t directed towards you personally, just an observation from fans on this website and others. 

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3 minutes ago, Pancho said:

Yes, and calling both Terry and Charlie “experiments” for their coaching tenures is tasteless and needs to stop.

I  accidentally left out track and field coach Edrick Floreal.

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1 hour ago, HookEm said:

Imagine trying to recruit high school recruits if you are on a year to year contract. Imagine trying to get decent assistant coaches.  His contract was the minimum we could give him and still have any appearance of stability with the program.  And in the end, the contract length won't matter at all when we decide to get rid of him.

agreed.  once you decide to hire him he has to have a 4 year contract.

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4 minutes ago, Red Five said:

If we would have hired Mark Few or Sean Miller, there would have been some backlash from the Vitalales of the college basketball world for about 24 hours, and that's it. 

Oh god I can hear it in my head 

“Texas, you gotta give him a chance, man. Give him a chance. RT can coach ball! An elite 8, he knows what he’s doing.” 

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nah for real this is beyond what even i expected. this is pathetic. i cannot fathom how you can serve as an assistant for rick barnes and chris beard and yet as a HC yourself have no semblance of defensive acumen or basketball iq from your players. it’s unreal. we hired a guy who would be a mid tier coach in a one-bid league, and because of that we’re now witnessing some of the worst basketball in UT history, no hyperbole. 

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19 minutes ago, Nueces River Rat said:

Why do we have to suffer through two more weeks of this train wreck?

I'm convinced they keep us in last 4 in/first 4 out so they can keep talking about us. 

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