2024 Golf: Not even God can hit a 1-iron

[dieucla98 2767]

On 7/16/2024 at 12:55 PM, Spaulding Smails said:

Last few rounds, I really felt like I'd lost my driver.  I had been really focused on shortening my backswing and finishing through the ball.  I was hitting fairways pretty consistently with decent distance for me (250-270).  The last several rounds, I'd noticed probably 10-20 yds less distance on damn near every drive and my shot dispersion was all over the place.  Well, this time, it was probably the arrow and not the Indian.

Last Thursday evening, about mid-way through the round, I teed off.  Decent drive.  Nice little draw.  Good trajectory.  The ball went 180 yds.  I was perplexed.  Two holes later, pulled out the driver again.  The club head felt like it twisted when it made contact and the ball shot left.  Not a push or a slice.  Just shot dead left OB.  I hit the ground of the tee box in frustration (more than a tap but much less than a slam), and the shaft busted.  Head went bouncing up in the air.  We were all in disbelief.  Best I can figure, the shaft had some damage to it the last several rounds and finally broke.  Anyone have that happen before?

Now, the real question is which new driver (and maybe a 3W) do I put in the bag?  Got a fitting set up for early next week.  

Sounds like driver was working just fine so why change the head? Go get fitted for the appropriate shaft using that head and end up with a better setup for half the price of a new driver (and that's for a solid mid to upper level shaft). 

[Spaulding Smails 1550]

3 hours ago, dieucla98 said:

Sounds like driver was working just fine so why change the head? Go get fitted for the appropriate shaft using that head and end up with a better setup for half the price of a new driver (and that's for a solid mid to upper level shaft). 

Half thinking of doing that.  Have never done a fitting, so going to give it a try, but bringing the head and may just go with a new shaft.  Stay tuned...

[dieucla98 2767]

2 hours ago, Spaulding Smails said:

Half thinking of doing that.  Have never done a fitting, so going to give it a try, but bringing the head and may just go with a new shaft.  Stay tuned...

Been said a few times on these annual threads... Shaft is the engine, head is just a hood ornament. 

It makes a massive difference, get ready!

[Lurch 5916]

9 handicap, standing in the 18th tee box even par … then golf happened

[dieucla98 2767]

I was on the opposite side of that coin on Friday. Hit 5 greens all day, converted two for birds. Scrambled my dick off. Shot a PR (for my home course) of 75. Stoked.

[tx 3 putt 75228]

10 hours ago, Lurch said:

9 handicap, standing in the 18th tee box even par … then golf happened

damn good round !

30 minutes ago, dieucla98 said:

I was on the opposite side of that coin on Friday. Hit 5 greens all day, converted two for birds. Scrambled my dick off. Shot a PR (for my home course) of 75. Stoked.

That’s some golfing there 

[HouTex 1838]

Golf?  What’s that?  No golf in Houston for a while.  This fucking rain just will not end.  It’s been crazy all summer.  Hope it rains in the Hill Country but we need about 8 weeks of no rain in Houston.   

[tx 3 putt 75228]

On 7/23/2024 at 7:07 PM, Spaulding Smails said:

Half thinking of doing that.  Have never done a fitting, so going to give it a try, but bringing the head and may just go with a new shaft.  Stay tuned...

 

do a fitting with an equipment rep. trying all the shafts is eye opening 

Edited July 29 by tx 3 putt

[Spaulding Smails 1550]

6 hours ago, tx 3 putt said:

 

do a fitting with an equipment rep. trying all the shafts is eye opening 

Booked a fitting with these guys in two weeks.  They're brand agnostic, so no telling what I'll end up with.  

https://www.bartoncreekfittingstudio.com/

[Lurch 5916]

That’s the way to do it, imo. I’m going to do a fresh fitting with Club Champion next week

[dieucla98 2767]

I've heard those guys are great. Looking at their brands, they have all the heavy hitters that are available only to a custom fitter plus all the mainstream brands as well. For example, a Titleist rep won't have Accra shafts and a limited selection of Graphite Design and Oban.

Edit: "Those guys" being the Barton Creek crew. CC is also solid.

Edited July 29 by dieucla98

[nolongerU2horn 716]

4 hours ago, Spaulding Smails said:

Booked a fitting with these guys in two weeks.  They're brand agnostic, so no telling what I'll end up with.  

https://www.bartoncreekfittingstudio.com/

I'm also planning on going there later this fall.  Let us know how it goes!

[crash_davis 23040]

On 7/23/2024 at 12:05 PM, HouTex said:

I still love my R7’s. They are part of my second set I keep in Colorado.  My new TM 790’s are nice though.  

Get paired with a guy yesterday playing a R7 driver. It was his most consistent club in the bag. Middle of the fairway every drive. Copy, paste every drive.

It's all between the ears. If you are confident with the club and hit it well, why spend the extra money? 

My most trusted club in my bag is a 2014 Adams Idea 4 hybrid. I upgraded the shaft to a Tensei AV Blue. It's my 220 yard fairway finder club for short par 4s with tight fairways and it's extremely easy to hit off the deck.

[Lurch 5916]

Had a fun fitting session at Club Champion

Switching to 70g reg graphite iron shafts (from 105g reg steel) and going with Vice (!) VGI02 6i - AW. Feel and distance were significantly better. I had no idea what I was hitting throughout the session until we looked at results. I didn’t even know they carried Vice!

We weren’t able to improve vs my TSR4 driver stats (using same shaft they put me on back in 2018!) and it looks like speed training is my only option there.

We think we can improve my 3w quite a bit but I was getting gassed and decided to put that off for now as the variance was starting to get pretty wide.

Also confirmed what I feared with my putter. I had switched to a flatso without counter weights and the only way I could find stability was to grip down, fucking up my posture. Reverting back now to what was working in the past. I was pretty sure that’s what he’d see, but it was cool to see it prove out on their monitor.

[tx 3 putt 75228]

On 7/29/2024 at 8:29 AM, Spaulding Smails said:

Booked a fitting with these guys in two weeks.  They're brand agnostic, so no telling what I'll end up with.  

https://www.bartoncreekfittingstudio.com/

please post your results and thoughts 

[tx 3 putt 75228]

1 hour ago, Lurch said:

Had a fun fitting session at Club Champion

Switching to 70g reg graphite iron shafts (from 105g reg steel) and going with Vice (!) VGI02 6i - AW. Feel and distance were significantly better. I had no idea what I was hitting throughout the session until we looked at results. I didn’t even know they carried Vice!

We weren’t able to improve vs my TSR4 driver stats (using same shaft they put me on back in 2018!) and it looks like speed training is my only option there.

We think we can improve my 3w quite a bit but I was getting gassed and decided to put that off for now as the variance was starting to get pretty wide.

Also confirmed what I feared with my putter. I had switched to a flatso without counter weights and the only way I could find stability was to grip down, fucking up my posture. Reverting back now to what was working in the past. I was pretty sure that’s what he’d see, but it was cool to see it prove out on their monitor.

what irons are you playing ?

Edited August 2 by tx 3 putt

[Lurch 5916]

what irons are you playing ?

Srixon Z765/565 mix. When I got into them in 2018 they were the only clubs that felt buttery. Interestingly the current Srixons didn’t feel that way, but these Vice clubs did

[crash_davis 23040]

5 hours ago, Lurch said:

Srixon Z765/565 mix. When I got into them in 2018 they were the only clubs that felt buttery. Interestingly the current Srixons didn’t feel that way, but these Vice clubs did

My old set is exactly the same combo Z565 5-7, Z765 8-PW. My gamers are now 1st Gen ZX5. I can't say that the ZX5 are an improvement over my Z5/765s. I just play the ZX5 because I paid for them and they are newer. I could switch between the two and not really notice a difference.

Which goes back to my belief. Most cavity back irons are all the same. It comes down to personal preference. I'm not trying to hit my 7 iron 200 yards which then entirely fucks my gapping for all clubs.

[huge 3774]

Anyone have any opinions about Denver area courses?

Staying in Centennial next week and have been recommended:

Arrowhead
Fossil Ridge
South Suburban (likely due to proximity)

Will be playing Wednesday morning.

Hit me with some local knowledge someone plz

[dieucla98 2767]

Played Green Valley right near the airport and Fossil Trace in Golden - loved both. Green Valley was not mountain golf per say but it was a great "get off the plane and play golf" kind of place. Loved the layout though a lot more linksy than you'd think.

Fossil Trace was epic. Just fun. And beautiful. Except for that one snake I saw. Fuck that guy. 

[capnamerca 501]

13 hours ago, huge said:

Anyone have any opinions about Denver area courses?

Staying in Centennial next week and have been recommended:

Arrowhead
Fossil Ridge
South Suburban (likely due to proximity)

Will be playing Wednesday morning.

Hit me with some local knowledge someone plz

highly, highly, HIGHLY recommend Arrowhead. Big rocks, big views, cool history.

[4th and 5 4903]

We played Bear Dance and Arrowhead in June. Highly recommend. 

[crash_davis 23040]

I asked the same and got responses up thread. 

Was there for a month in the mountains in between Golden and Boulder. I played...

- Fossil Trace (twice) - Must Play

- Bear Dance - Must Play

- Arrowhead - Must Play

- Indian Peaks - Decent course if you are in the area and can't get onto the top 3. Walkable.

- Westwood - Avoid. Most par 4 tee shots are 200-220 yards. Very short course. Walkable.

- Flatirons - Avoid unless you need a cheap quick round. Walkable.

 

Most everyone I played with suggested Colorado National as a must play. I couldn't make it work but will play there the next time I'm in Denver. I really liked Fossil Trace, Bear Dance and Arrowhead. Those 3 will be on everyone's recommended Must Play list.

Edited August 7 by crash_davis

[EastHorn 280]

16 hours ago, huge said:

Anyone have any opinions about Denver area courses?

Staying in Centennial next week and have been recommended:

Arrowhead
Fossil Ridge
South Suburban (likely due to proximity)

Will be playing Wednesday morning.

Hit me with some local knowledge someone plz

Castle Pines.  Cherry Creek CC.

[huge 3774]

Thanks guys.

Booked Arrowhead. Bear Dance and Fossil Trace were full.

All look great.

[heso 2579]

Pinehurst trip for next summer officially on the books! 2, 3, 4, & 8. Trying to talk at least some of the boys into going down a day early and doing Tobacco Road and mid pines. 

[nolongerU2horn 716]

No #10?

[heso 2579]

On 8/9/2024 at 8:37 AM, nolongerU2horn said:

No #10?

That was my response when I found out what courses we are playing. 

[Lurch 5916]

Pro tip: sleep in on the day they play #2

[Wally Fairway 5490]

On 8/8/2024 at 4:55 PM, heso said:

Pinehurst trip for next summer officially on the books! 2, 3, 4, & 8. Trying to talk at least some of the boys into going down a day early and doing Tobacco Road and mid pines. 

Pine needles & mid pines make a great 36 for one day. Great bar at the hotel at Mid Pines 

[heso 2579]

19 hours ago, Wally Fairway said:

Pine needles & mid pines make a great 36 for one day. Great bar at the hotel at Mid Pines 

Been pushing hard to lead into the trip with mid pines or pine needles (or both) plus Tobacco Road, but I’m meeting surprising resistance to playing 36 three days in a row. 

[ocugolf 1199]

Leave for Bandon Saturday with my old college teammates. Playing Bandon Dunes, Pacific Dunes, Old Mac, Sheep Ranch, Bandon Preserve, and Shortys. Played Trails last time and will miss it. Sheep Ranch opened the day after we left last time, so I’m excited to see it. 65 and light winds will feel amazing.

[crash_davis 23040]

On 8/7/2024 at 11:38 AM, huge said:

Thanks guys.

Booked Arrowhead. Bear Dance and Fossil Trace were full.

All look great.

Did you like Arrowhead?

[The Royal We 3051]

On 8/1/2024 at 6:19 PM, Lurch said:

Had a fun fitting session at Club Champion

Switching to 70g reg graphite iron shafts (from 105g reg steel) and going with Vice (!) VGI02 6i - AW. Feel and distance were significantly better. I had no idea what I was hitting throughout the session until we looked at results. I didn’t even know they carried Vice!

We weren’t able to improve vs my TSR4 driver stats (using same shaft they put me on back in 2018!) and it looks like speed training is my only option there.

We think we can improve my 3w quite a bit but I was getting gassed and decided to put that off for now as the variance was starting to get pretty wide.

Also confirmed what I feared with my putter. I had switched to a flatso without counter weights and the only way I could find stability was to grip down, fucking up my posture. Reverting back now to what was working in the past. I was pretty sure that’s what he’d see, but it was cool to see it prove out on their monitor.

I'd love to do this one of these days. I've been playing golf for 35+ years and have always played hand me downs or off the shelf clubs. I don't get to play that much these days with 3 kids and all the associated activities, but I've been stuck around 9-10 index for years now. I think changing to more forgiving irons from my 15 year old AP2s might help moderate my missed shots, which tend to be horrendous right now (usually a 30+ yard left pull/hook).

Edited August 15 by The Royal We

[Lurch 5916]

I'd love to do this one of these days. I've been playing golf for 35+ years and have always played hand me downs or off the shelf clubs. I don't get to play that much these days with 3 kids and all the associated activities, but I've been stuck around 9-10 index for years now. I think changing to more forgiving irons from my 15 year old AP2s might help moderate my missed shots, which tend to be horrendous right now (usually a 30+ yard left pull/hook).

I’d say just go do an iron fitting for the experience. Even if you don’t end up buying anything and eat the fitting fee, I think it’s worth it in entertainment value alone.

[huge 3774]

6 hours ago, crash_davis said:

Did you like Arrowhead?

It was great.  Wish I had played better.

[HouTex 1838]

From the 2nd tee at Snowmass Club.  Near perfect weather here in Colorado.  

[tx 3 putt 75228]

3 hours ago, HouTex said:

From the 2nd tee at Snowmass Club.  Near perfect weather here in Colorado.  

Thanks for he invite 😂

[DDD Dad 14060]

On 8/8/2024 at 3:55 PM, heso said:

Pinehurst trip for next summer officially on the books! 2, 3, 4, & 8. Trying to talk at least some of the boys into going down a day early and doing Tobacco Road and mid pines. 

 

On 8/10/2024 at 4:39 PM, Lurch said:

Pro tip: sleep in on the day they play #2

Funny story about #2. At my club we have a member (and friend of mine) who went on a group trip to Pinehurst years ago. His last name is Regan (pronounced like Ronnie). At the time he was a sub-5 handicap. Played number 2 and didn’t make a single par. The feat sealed his name forever at Lakewood. Now if you are playing and haven’t made a par you’re “on the Regan” (watch). Last week I had a back 9 Regan. It was not a good day. 
 

ETA if someone is off to a bad start and finally makes a par we often congratulate them for getting “off the “Regan”.  Right, @capnamerca?

Edited August 16 by DDD Dad

[ocugolf 1199]

Anyone ever eaten off resort in Bandon? If so, any suggestions? We booked dinner reservations late and have one free night where we may go into town

[MrX 683]

22 hours ago, huge said:

It was great.  Wish I had played better.

For a good six to eight year stretch they were maintaining it like crap. Think ownership may have changed, so good to hear it’s back up to snuff. 

[Incredulity 11160]

On 8/16/2024 at 6:10 AM, ocugolf said:

Anyone ever eaten off resort in Bandon? If so, any suggestions? We booked dinner reservations late and have one free night where we may go into town

Tony’s crab shack.  Then wander over to Arcade Tavern and play pool with the caddies.  Buy them a round and you will be solid.

If you’re a pretentious douche ignore that advice, there would be a non zero chance of trouble.

[BearSchlong 8000]

Been pushing hard to lead into the trip with mid pines or pine needles (or both) plus Tobacco Road, but I’m meeting surprising resistance to playing 36 three days in a row. 

At PH now, had a nice round on #3 and then drinks at the deuce.

[DDD Dad 14060]

On 8/16/2024 at 8:10 AM, ocugolf said:

Anyone ever eaten off resort in Bandon? If so, any suggestions? We booked dinner reservations late and have one free night where we may go into town

Yes many times. Alloro (I think that’s what it’s called) is probably the best restaurant in town after Edgewater closed. My group regularly goes to the Wheelhouse for one dinner each year. It’s fine but I wouldn’t consider it outstanding. 
 

The Irish pub in town has good pub food and a great vibe but it closes pretty early at night (like just about everything in town). 

[Hamttx 414]

On 8/2/2024 at 12:56 PM, crash_davis said:

My old set is exactly the same combo Z565 5-7, Z765 8-PW. My gamers are now 1st Gen ZX5. I can't say that the ZX5 are an improvement over my Z5/765s. I just play the ZX5 because I paid for them and they are newer. I could switch between the two and not really notice a difference.

Which goes back to my belief. Most cavity back irons are all the same. It comes down to personal preference. I'm not trying to hit my 7 iron 200 yards which then entirely fucks my gapping for all clubs.

We golfers are like fishermen when it comes to equipment. The manufacturers tease you with new gear because that is what they do.

I still play a set of Ping Beryllium copper eye two irons I bought in the 80’s. Ancient tech for sure, not to mention head heavy. I just changed the shafts as I have aged, and my swing speed has turned glacial. They handle a modern golf ball well, considering they were more aligned to hitting balata.

I’m as guilty as everyone else as I own other club sets, but I like feel of copper. Plus they look pretty sharp when you polish them. but yeah, I still buy shit.

[BearSchlong 8000]

Another thing for the kids to file under “things I’ll never get to do” - unwinding a wound balata Titleist tour 90.

[ocugolf 1199]

After my second trip to Bandon, I think I can officially confirm my rankings of the property.

1. Pacific Dunes. Probably the hardest. Great variation of holes. So enjoyable.

2. Bandon Dunes. Some amazing holes like 4-6, 12, 14-16. Some filler holes, but a great walk.

3. Old Mac. Hated it the first time. So vast and the greens are infuriatingly bad and undulating. Went into it with a better attitude and it’s fun and you get to hit a lot of really cool shots.

4. Trails. So different than any of the other courses. Love the tree lined fairways. Bitch to walk though.

5. Sheep Ranch. Greens are awful right now. Fun layout that is an easy walk. Probably would have a better opinion if it the greens were better.

Shortys and Preserve are both awesome. Shortys in particular can be diabolical with some of the green complexes.

We had an OUTSTANDING meal at the steakhouse at Old Mac. Went into town to the Arcade bar and hung with the caddies. That was fun. Walked a smooth 54.2 miles in the 4 days there. I’m a tired SOB. Can’t wait to go back 

[orange dream 1200]

Took the family vacay to Ireland and Scotland this year.  Stayed at the Old Course Hotel in St. Andrews toward the end of the trip.  Our room looked out over the Road Hole...

 

My youngest and I are the only golfers in the family so we didn't plan to play but we stayed on Saturday night so we could walk the course on Sunday morning. Finished by playing the Himalayas putting course.  Overall very fun and spent way too much $$$ at the pro shop.  Definitely want to go back to play a round at some point.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited August 23 by orange dream

[BearSchlong 8000]

Very cool.

And strategic - way to preserve a reason to return.

[tx 3 putt 75228]

i’d been looking for a bargain, pulled the trigger on a ping g430 max 7 wood. it sat perfectly, shaft felt great. $270

21 loft