2024 Houston Texans off-season thread

[tx 3 putt 77,060]

 

[Harrison Stafford 3,335]

https://texanswire.usatoday.com/lists/pros-and-cons-of-re-signing-te-dalton-schultz/

Let him walk.  

[tx 3 putt 77,060]

48 minutes ago, Harrison Stafford said:

https://texanswire.usatoday.com/lists/pros-and-cons-of-re-signing-te-dalton-schultz/

Let him walk.  

i’d good with this. Sign a cheaper fa or draft one 

[Updawg 2,268]

Can Jordon take over the spot?

[Harrison Stafford 3,335]

3 minutes ago, Updawg said:

Can Jordon take over the spot?

I believe he can with no drop off at the TE position.  

[Ignatius 4,017]

2 hours ago, tx 3 putt said:

i’d good with this. Sign a cheaper fa or draft one 

What in the Texans substantial TE draft history encourages you on the latter?

EDIT - Don’t get me wrong, I’d love to save the probably $12MM yearly Schultz is probably going to cost I just don’t see anyone in the FA market who is as reliable a pass catcher and I don’t want CJ to have to be in the position of being perfect (even though he can be) because he doesn’t have many dudes who can get open.

Edited February 4 by Ignatius

[Harrison Stafford 3,335]

3 hours ago, Ignatius said:

What in the Texans substantial TE draft history encourages you on the latter?

EDIT - Don’t get me wrong, I’d love to save the probably $12MM yearly Schultz is probably going to cost I just don’t see anyone in the FA market who is as reliable a pass catcher and I don’t want CJ to have to be in the position of being perfect (even though he can be) because he doesn’t have many dudes who can get open.

Owen Daniels was a two time Pro Bowl selection.  

[Ignatius 4,017]

18 minutes ago, Harrison Stafford said:

Owen Daniels was a two time Pro Bowl selection.  

You want to talk about the track record of the other 10?

[Hate 20,112]

If Sanders is there with their first round pick, would it make sense to draft him?  He may be the best player available at that spot but may not be the most important position of need.  But tell me he couldn't fill the Kittle role on this offense...at least as a receiver.  He needs to get better at blocking, but that really is a "want to" skill.  I don't know, but he could be a huge weapon. 

[Murfdogg21 4,413]

There are several Longhorns (Sweat, Mitchell, Sanders, Worthy) that would make sense for the Texans, but taking them at #23 may be a reach and they may all be gone by their second round pick. 

[Hate 20,112]

I get it and I'm not even wearing my "Burnt Orange" glasses when I think about Sanders.  This offense is built for TE's to thrive.  Sanders running down the middle with Tank and Collins on the outside?  That's kind of fun to think about.  Stroud is great at those seam throws. 

[Harrison Stafford 3,335]

33 minutes ago, Ignatius said:

You want to talk about the track record of the other 10?

Of course not, but it was an oversight for Daniels not to be mentioned in your post as an interloper.

Edited February 4 by Harrison Stafford

[TonyTexas 10,516]

We won’t really know what the biggest Texans’ needs are until we get deeper into free agency. They have a ton of cap room but also a lot of free agents. There will be significant roster shake-up between now and the draft. 

[The Earl of Texas 3,132]

 

[Fud 9,552]

On 2/3/2024 at 8:29 PM, Hate said:

If Sanders is there with their first round pick, would it make sense to draft him?  He may be the best player available at that spot but may not be the most important position of need.  But tell me he couldn't fill the Kittle role on this offense...at least as a receiver.  He needs to get better at blocking, but that really is a "want to" skill.  I don't know, but he could be a huge weapon. 

Assuming he doesn’t blowout the combine, that’ll be too early for him 

[Fud 9,552]

A couple of senior bowl risers who'd make sense for Houston at #23 if they're still on the board; Missouri DL Darius Robinson, and Toledo CB Quinyon Mitchell

I like DeJean, Mims (or other physically gifted OTs getting pushed down to #23 due to the strength of the OT class), Robinson, and Mitchell. #23 seems like it's too late to get the first wave of WRs, and too early for the late first/early second types (might be better off drafting a WR in the 2nd like Malachi Corley, if he's there). Maybe if they love one of those WRs (Coleman, Worthy, Mitchell, Wilson, Franklin, etc), they go ahead and take him, but I'd bet they have others (like the four I mentioned above) ahead of those guys

Some good corners seem to be falling into the middle of the 2nd round, maybe one of those could drop to us?

This class is loaded at interior OL, but it's tough to see us using a premium pick on one after taking Suggs in the 2nd last year

[Murfdogg21 4,413]

Maybe Washington is dumb and would give up #36 and #40 to move up to #23.

[TonyTexas 10,516]

37 minutes ago, Murfdogg21 said:

Maybe Washington is dumb and would give up #36 and #40 to move up to #23.

According to the value charts, that wouldn’t work, barring your stupidity caveat. We’d have to throw in #59 as well. 

[Ignatius 4,017]

7 hours ago, Fud said:

A couple of senior bowl risers who'd make sense for Houston at #23 if they're still on the board; Missouri DL Darius Robinson, and Toledo CB Quinyon Mitchell

I like DeJean, Mims (or other physically gifted OTs getting pushed down to #23 due to the strength of the OT class), Robinson, and Mitchell. #23 seems like it's too late to get the first wave of WRs, and too early for the late first/early second types (might be better off drafting a WR in the 2nd like Malachi Corley, if he's there). Maybe if they love one of those WRs (Coleman, Worthy, Mitchell, Wilson, Franklin, etc), they go ahead and take him, but I'd bet they have others (like the four I mentioned above) ahead of those guys

Some good corners seem to be falling into the middle of the 2nd round, maybe one of those could drop to us?

This class is loaded at interior OL, but it's tough to see us using a premium pick on one after taking Suggs in the 2nd last year

I can’t say I watched many Toledo games, but scouts love Mitchell; a lot of people think if he played at tOSU/Michigan he’d be a top-10 lock…

[tx 3 putt 77,060]

3 hours ago, Ignatius said:

I can’t say I watched many Toledo games, but scouts love Mitchell; a lot of people think if he played at tOSU/Michigan he’d be a top-10 lock…

he’s shooting up draft boards, mid teens 

[David Dennison 18,922]

 

[TonyTexas 10,516]

I would jump with joy at this draft. 

#23 Jer’Zhan Newton 

#59 Adonai Mitchell 

https://www.si.com/nfl/texans/news/houston-texans-cj-stroud-new-weapon-two-round-pff-nfl-mock-draft-adonai-mitchell-jerzhan-newton

 

[Fud 9,552]

Newton doesn't really fit (small quick DTs) what SF drafted early when DeMeco was there, or what NE/Houston drafted when Caserio was at each spot

I think a jumbo edge who can move up and down the line like Darius Robinson or a first step speed rusher like Chop Robinson make more sense

[TonyTexas 10,516]

49 minutes ago, Fud said:

think a jumbo edge who can move up and down the line like Darius Robinson

It seems like Newton could be fill that role  

 

 

 

 

[Fud 9,552]

2 minutes ago, TonyTexas said:

It seems like Newton could be fill that role  

 

 

 

 

He's much more of a traditional 3-tech

[tx 3 putt 77,060]

A good DT very much compliments anderson 

[Bevo 13,579]

1 minute ago, tx 3 putt said:

A good DT very much compliments anderson 

Or pick up Christian Wilkins in free agency and draft Chop Robinson and have one of the top defensive lines in the NFL.

[tx 3 putt 77,060]

Im pulling for the Duke OL with pick one

[ckhorn 208]

On 2/5/2024 at 8:42 AM, Murfdogg21 said:

Maybe Washington is dumb and would give up #36 and #40 to move up to #23.

I like this. Trade out of the 1st round and pick up another 2nd round pick and late 2nd or early 3rd. It looks like a deep draft, with only one possible superstar type.

Edited February 7 by ckhorn

[HtownHorn 14,723]

3 hours ago, Bevo said:

Or pick up Christian Wilkins in free agency and draft Chop Robinson and have one of the top defensive lines in the NFL.

Or resign our own DE that had 12.5 sacks last season.

[Ignatius 4,017]

1 hour ago, HtownHorn said:

Or resign our own DE that had 12.5 sacks last season.

Yeah if the projections of Greenard’s next contract coming at the $16-$18MM range are realistic we’re better off extending him. Agree with your upstream post that Anderson needs a pocket collapser next to him more than opposite him….

Edited February 7 by Ignatius

[Macklemore 2,872]

My #1 target in free agency would a proven, stud DT. I would make Madubuike our big ticket free agent signing. He is the ideal profile of a DT in Demeco’s system and is only 26 years old. He’s from Texas so that could work in our favor if he wants to come back home.

Edited February 8 by Macklemore

[Fud 9,552]

22 hours ago, tx 3 putt said:

A good DT very much compliments anderson 

Sure, just saying Caserio and the 49ers regime DeMeco came from having drafted smaller quicker interior OL recently, it's typically longer guys

[The Earl of Texas 3,132]

Looks like Dre is Hall of Fame bound, this evening. Our first. Fuckin A.

[billfromlaketravis 11,515]

23 hours ago, Macklemore said:

My #1 target in free agency would a proven, stud DT. I would make Madubuike our big ticket free agent signing. He is the ideal profile of a DT in Demeco’s system and is only 26 years old. He’s from Texas so that could work in our favor if he wants to come back home.

Yeah I'd be good with Marmaduke. He checks all the boxes, most importantly position flexibility. 

Regarding TE, I don't remember all the names, but they are at least 3-4 guys that could come in and Dalton Schultz type things. 

I wouldn't resign Greenard if they can get Chop Robinson on a 5 year rookie deal. 

Edited February 9 by billfromlaketravis

[APMP 688]

Looks like Dre is Hall of Fame bound, this evening. Our first. Fuckin A.

About damn time...

[tx 3 putt 77,060]

https://x.com/mgsportstalk/status/1755778838791864557?s=46&t=cH-LvFrUDSIxqTdoyXUTxg

 

Edited February 9 by tx 3 putt

[The Earl of Texas 3,132]

 

[Fico 1,787]

AJ80 is in the hall baby!!

 

So well deserved!!

[Harrison Stafford 3,335]

25 minutes ago, The Earl of Texas said:

 

And, he’s just starting to figure things out.  Hang on ‘cause we’re in for a ride.

[tx 3 putt 77,060]

Pretty good draft …

[tx 3 putt 77,060]

Demeco was robbed 

[The Earl of Texas 3,132]

As the Texans dunk on errbody, I can’t help but think of the words of the great Kenneth Powers:

“This is why I’m better than everyone in the world. Kiss my ass and suck my dick, everyone.”

[mrhorn 1,383]

[tx 3 putt 77,060]

 

hannah needs to get a group of investors and buy the Texans 

 

#queen

[tx 3 putt 77,060]

[tx 3 putt 77,060]

[Macklemore 2,872]

8 hours ago, tx 3 putt said:

 

hannah needs to get a group of investors and buy the Texans 

 

#queen

Hannah is so fucking awesome. Awesome wife too. Look how lovingly she looks at Cal while he is speaking. That’s what a man needs as a wife. 

[tx ind 7,013]

Fuck your S2 test

 

[tx 3 putt 77,060]