2024 Houston Texans off-season thread

[TonyTexas 10508]

Sweat could be available at 42. As could several tier 2 WRs

[Mr. Drummond 2198]

If there is someone late first  / very early second that Nick/Demeco want, they can still move up pretty easily.    Let the man cook.

[TexasHooch 5122]

3 minutes ago, Fud said:

 

The Vikings are definitely wanting to trade up for a QB.  They know it'll take (at least) two 1st rounders but really don't want to trade next year's, because they know it might be a really high one. 

I'm guessing there's already a handshake agreement to deal it away.

[mrhorn 1383]

[Bevo 13568]

So we traded our first this year for a second round pick this year and another second round pick in 2025? And we still need a dominant defensive lineman.

Edited March 15 by Bevo

[Macklemore 2876]

51 minutes ago, TonyTexas said:

Did you even look at Fud’s value chart? You’re one of those “eyeball test” or “gut feel” guys, aren’t you?

Thank you! The 2025 2nd rounder will probably be a top 40 pick. T’Sweat or Braden Fiske will be available at 42 we can use the other 2nd on a WR like Corley or Leggette.

Edited March 15 by Macklemore

[HtownHorn 14668]

Minnesota was 7-10 last year with a veteran QB. If they really use our pick to draft a QB, there is a good chance they are worse next year. This is a solid deal for the Texans. We need more youth under control for 4+ years and less veterans signed to short term deals where we are having to build depth through FA every offseason.

[Hate 20106]

27 minutes ago, Macklemore said:

Thank you! The 2025 2nd rounder will probably be a top 40 pick. T’Sweat or Braden Fiske will be available at 42 we can use the other 2nd on a WR like Corley or Leggette.

Why not Mitchell?  

[tx 3 putt 76873]

All that #23 discussion wasted 😂😂😂😂

[Macklemore 2876]

21 minutes ago, Hate said:

Why not Mitchell?  

I think he’ll be gone by then but it would be awesome if he was available and to draft 2 Horns in the 2nd.

[Carl Spackler 3479]

31 minutes ago, HtownHorn said:

Minnesota was 7-10 last year with a veteran QB. If they really use our pick to draft a QB, there is a good chance they are worse next year. This is a solid deal for the Texans. We need more youth under control for 4+ years and less veterans signed to short term deals where we are having to build depth through FA every offseason.

Minnesota only had that vet QB (Cousins) for less than half the season.  He got hurt in week 8, and the team finished 3-6 without him.  Minnesota was starting to gel (back-to-back wins over SF and GB) when he got hurt, so I think they would have finished better than 7-10 had Cousins stayed healthy.  

But with that said, I think there is a substantial chance that Minnesota does not improve on 7-10 in the '24 season, so your larger point about the future 2nd round pick likely being a relatively high pick in that round is probably going to end up being correct.   

[Fud 9552]

 No chance Mitchell is there at 42

[billfromlaketravis 11448]

If the 2025 pick is the 33rd pick in the draft, it’s a good trade. It’s a bet the Vikings are going to suck next year. 
I still wish the 2024 pick was in the 30s.

I think Sweat has to be the target at 42. 

[tx 3 putt 76873]

If they see a player dropping, they can move back up 

that wr room is full, I don’t think they move back up for a wr 

Edited March 15 by tx 3 putt

[Fud 9552]

1 minute ago, tx 3 putt said:

If they see a player dropping, they can move back up 

that wr room is full, I don’t think they move back up for a wr 

The room isn’t full if they like a guy. You typically roster 6-7, and only maybe four those guys are completely safe 

[tx 3 putt 76873]

5 minutes ago, Fud said:

The room isn’t full if they like a guy. You typically roster 6-7, and only maybe four those guys are completely safe 

they have #1 and #2 that the qb loves and a lockdown TE 

I see them going wr later in the draft, moving up for a DB 

Edited March 15 by tx 3 putt

[Ignatius 4017]

Too lazy to do the math but the net/net of the Deshaun/Will A/Vikings deals keeps looking better. If that fucking aggy guard can get his shit together this year it looks even better….

[Dutchrudder 11134]

Weird trade, I would not be surprised if the Vikings are trying to make a package to move into the top 2. I am surprised Houston would do this now and not after they see who is available at 23. This is one of those drafts that could be incredibly stupid with 4-5 QBs in the top 20 picks, which means actually good players will fall. 

It's nice to stack picks, but I was hoping we would get some more foundation players this year to develop sooner rather than later. Need a young DT, DB and WR to help add depth and hopefully grow into capable starters in 2026. Moving out of round 1 means you don't get that 5th year option on the guy if he turns out to be a stud. I hope they trade back into the 1st on draft day and pickup a DB that falls to 30-32. 

[Murfdogg21 4412]

Hopefully the plan is watch the draft board unfold and be ready to jump back up into the 30s based on who they want (like jumping in front of KC for a WR).

[tx 3 putt 76873]

2 minutes ago, Ignatius said:

Too lazy to do the math but the net/net of the Deshaun/Will A/Vikings deals keeps looking better. If that fucking aggy guard can get his shit together this year it looks even better….

Green needs to get his shit together 

I’d hire away juan castillo from ucla to come help this OL

[TonyTexas 10508]

4 minutes ago, Dutchrudder said:

. I am surprised Houston would do this now and not after they see who is available at 23.

That was my original thought as well. But after reflecting, Minnesota paid a nice premium because they need the pick prior to the draft in order to put together a package to move up and take a QB. 

[Fud 9552]

23 minutes ago, tx 3 putt said:

they have #1 and #2 that the qb loves and a lockdown TE 

I see them going wr later in the draft, moving up for a DB 

And the #3s are mostly jaggy. If they view a WR at 42 as a potential difference maker, I think that’s on the table 

[HtownHorn 14668]

35 minutes ago, Fud said:

And the #3s are mostly jaggy. If they view a WR at 42 as a potential difference maker, I think that’s on the table 

Both Dell and Collins missed games last year. You hope for healthy seasons, but you can't rely on WRs playing 17 games every season. The other WRs are good at their roles, but when Collins or Dell missed a game, those JAGs became worse.

[billfromlaketravis 11448]

What would a package look like to move back into the first?

We’ll see. If they draft Sweat at 42, and Meco says this was our guy all along and we picked additional assets, it’s a good trade with a potential be great if the 2025 Vikings pick is top 35. 

[closetojumping 62565]

1 minute ago, billfromlaketravis said:

What would a package look like to move back into the first?

We’ll see. If they draft Sweat at 42, and Meco says this was our guy all along and we picked additional assets, it’s a good trade with a potential be great if the 2025 Vikings pick is top 35. 

You’re weaving some excellent fan fiction around the Texans drafting Sweat at 42. 

[billfromlaketravis 11448]

2 minutes ago, closetojumping said:

You’re weaving some excellent fan fiction around the Texans drafting Sweat at 42. 

Go on…

Darius Robinson or Chop would work too. 

Edited March 15 by billfromlaketravis

[HtownHorn 14668]

7 minutes ago, billfromlaketravis said:

What would a package look like to move back into the first?

42, 122, and 126 for 32. Any better 1st round pick would likely cost us some combination of our 2nds and/or 3rds.

Edited March 15 by HtownHorn

[Harrison Stafford 3335]

Well, we don’t have to use as much cap signing a first round pick.  

[HtownHorn 14668]

Was it posted that lifetime Longhorn Josh Thompson signed a future's contract with the Texnas in January?

[tx 3 putt 76873]

Fuck it, go all in and trade a package to get MH jr 

Edited March 15 by tx 3 putt

[Fud 9552]

2 minutes ago, Harrison Stafford said:

Well, we don’t have to use as much cap signing a first round pick.  

The number is saw is it opens up $6m for this year if the picks don’t change again 

[TonyTexas 10508]

20 minutes ago, Fud said:

The number is saw is it opens up $6m for this year if the picks don’t change again 

That’s over the life of the 4 year rookie contract. So it should save $1.5M on this years cap. 

[tx 3 putt 76873]

 

they’re clearing cap space for a reason

[HtownHorn 14668]

18 minutes ago, tx 3 putt said:

 

they’re clearing cap space for a reason

Is there a bigname safety out there?

[SimkinsMan 4386]

46 minutes ago, HtownHorn said:

Is there a bigname safety out there?

 CHAUNCEY GARDNER-JOHNSON

[Harrison Stafford 3335]

Shaq Mason’s middle name is Olajuwon.  He’s finally doing a stint in the right town.

[Tex-19 2872]

Don't they already have a lot of cap space right now? Not sure why they would need more. Not many big names even still out there

Edited March 15 by Tex-19

[Ignatius 4017]

Sure feels like things are getting lined up for some kind of trade; we’ll see….

[IDIOTsavant 8483]

Feels like they’re trying to make room to sign a safety and still have enough to extend Nico now instead of waiting until after the season….and I doubt Sweat is on the table at 42 even if he’s there. Doesn’t seem to fit what Demeco had in SF. I’d think the second or third pick might be Jenkins (Michigan DT) or Orhorhoro (Clemson DT).

Edited March 15 by IDIOTsavant

[Bevo 13568]

12 minutes ago, IDIOTsavant said:

Feels like they’re trying to make room to sign a safety and still have enough to extend Nico now instead of waiting until after the season.

Maybe. Tampa Bay I think only has $3.5M in cap space to resign their franchise tagged safety. The Patriots transition tagged Kyle Dugger (no compensation to NE needed) which puts a $13.8M hit on its cap space so it is possible that they get rid of him before the July deadline if he is unhappy in New England. And I think Julian Blackmon is still available as a free agent.

[Fud 9552]

Justin Simmons is still available. He's getting up there in age, but he's been a top five safety for about five years running now, and has a bunch of experience in our defense

Also I selfishly would love to add Quandre

[Bevo 13568]

26 minutes ago, Fud said:

Justin Simmons is still available. He's getting up there in age, but he's been a top five safety for about five years running now, and has a bunch of experience in our defense

Also I selfishly would love to add Quandre

Then maybe Connor Williams at guard.

 

[tx 3 putt 76873]

Was anyone here invited ?

 

[Jshep34 2308]

Hmmmmm interesting. I'm very curious to what people are going to think when they see them. They'll definitely be strictly houston. No doubt about it

[Rip76 4925]

I’m freaking curious what these could look like.

A touch of 70’s Phillies unis?

[Bevo 13568]

Baby blue

[Rip76 4925]

This is in my head, but true red.

 

[billfromlaketravis 11448]

I’m guessing it’s some version of royal blue and red that they cleared with that fat, old bitch in Nashville. 

Edited March 16 by billfromlaketravis

[mrhorn 1383]

I thought I read somewhere that the H town blue wouldn’t be used as a main color. I think it was from the Chronicle so probably BS

[Hairy Biped 585]

4 hours ago, tx 3 putt said:

Was anyone here invited ?

 

A friend of mine was there and said they look great, but he wouldn't say anything else.  He works for the Texans though, so he wasn't gonna risk his job.