2024 Houston Texans off-season thread

[LTtxfan 50,003]

17 minutes ago, Fud said:

I mean, they just traded a 2nd for him. They're not going to cut him this year 

Does the 2024 $18.5mill dead cap hit move to Texans??

[Ignatius 4,142]

1 minute ago, LTtxfan said:

Does the 2024 $18.5mill dead cap hit move to Texans??

No, only the salary and (probably) the workout roster bonuses for 2024 since they fall into the category of likely to be earned. Dead money always stays with the old team….

[Fud 9,724]

3 minutes ago, LTtxfan said:

Does the 2024 $18.5mill dead cap hit move to Texans??

It's already been answered, but dead cap is money that's already been spent, but it's just allocated for future years. It's accounting to create more space in the current year at the expense of future years

[Js1 87,182]

[Fud 9,724]

 

[Hank Kingsley 21,784]

1 minute ago, Fud said:

 

Comparing Khalil Mack to Stefon Diggs is what I'd expect from a *checks Twitter profile*....German mathematician. 

[Hank Kingsley 21,784]

Now go get Edgerrin Cooper and T'Vondre Sweat with the two 2nd round picks. 

[Fud 9,724]

I think Houston probably still signs a safety. Simmons would be ideal, even if he's getting up there in age. Diggs would be fun

[Hank Kingsley 21,784]

7 minutes ago, Fud said:

I think Houston probably still signs a safety. Simmons would be ideal, even if he's getting up there in age. Diggs would be fun

Would love to add Quandre. 

[Hank Kingsley 21,784]

Trevon Diggs commenting on the Texans firepower at WR....

 

[TonyTexas 10,766]

14 minutes ago, Fud said:

I think Houston probably still signs a safety. Simmons would be ideal, even if he's getting up there in age. Diggs would be fun

They’d have to restructure Diggs contract to sign Simmons. But that’s doable. 

 

[6th Street 6,692]

 

 

[LTtxfan 50,003]

46 minutes ago, Fud said:

 

Not having that $20mill obligation for that 2nd Rd pick, frees up more free agent money for other player(s)

[Hank Kingsley 21,784]

 

[Ignatius 4,142]

Deebo Samuel had/has 6.8 and 8.9 hits the first two years of his extension. If we sign Nico to a similar deal we can easily absorb it, and that’s before considering the $5.5MM savings you’d get from cutting Robert Wood. I’d love to shore up safety with a pre-draft signing and end up with CB, DT, and OL (in whatever order) our 3 picks in rounds 2-3 of the draft..

[TonyTexas 10,766]

For those who might be concerned about the big drop off in Diggs’ production in the latter part of 2023, it almost perfectly correlated to when Dorsey got fired and Joe Brady took over as the Bills’ OC. Which indicates the reduction was more a matter of scheme and play calling, not ability. 

[Hank Kingsley 21,784]

 

[Hank Kingsley 21,784]

 

[tx 3 putt 78,677]

We’re drafting a DT or DB, early and often

[Fud 9,724]

1 hour ago, LTtxfan said:

Not having that $20mill obligation for that 2nd Rd pick, frees up more free agent money for other player(s)

The 2025 pick? I doubt that’s much of a consideration 

[Harrison Stafford 3,392]

3 hours ago, Macklemore said:

This year’s Texans team is the best NFL squad our city has ever fielded. Better than the 93 Oilers by a lot. STEFON DIGGS BABY!!!

Now, don’t sleep on the 1960 & 1961 AFL Championship Houston Oiler teams.

[TexasMan 11,456]

 

[Hate 20,248]

Goddamn, I’m excited about this team. I would usually go back and forth between Cowboy and Texans games when they were on at the same time. That stopped last year after it became apparent that CJ was the truth and this team was heading someplace. I don’t even check the Cowboys thread anymore. 

[Harrison Stafford 3,392]

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3 minutes ago, Hate said:

Goddamn, I’m excited about this team. I would usually go back and forth between Cowboy and Texans games when they were on at the same time. That stopped last year after it became apparent that CJ was the truth and this team was heading someplace. I don’t even check the Cowboys thread anymore. 

Wait.  The Cowboys have a thread?

[The Earl of Texas 3,214]

Even if you were worried about Diggs being a head case or whatever all Buffalo fans are crying about now, check this shit out.

If it goes bad, he’s on a 1 year deal with team renewal options. Trade value was right, price is right at $20M, gotta wonder wtf else there is to this story. I know Buffalo has bad cap situation but they just let him walk…

[Bevo 13,882]

59 minutes ago, TexasMan said:

 

That may be true, but I would rather have Diggs now than Hopkins 4 years ago.

[TonyTexas 10,766]

Diggs trade really resonated with Vegas. Texans’ odds to win division went from +140 to +115, to win AFC from +1100 to +750 and to win the Super Bowl from +2200 to +1800

Edited April 3 by TonyTexas

[tx 3 putt 78,677]

 

[tx 3 putt 78,677]

Texans need to go all in on the Travis Scott softball game. Huge recruiting event 
 

[Eskimohorn 5,682]

For those who might be concerned about the big drop off in Diggs’ production in the latter part of 2023, it almost perfectly correlated to when Dorsey got fired and Joe Brady took over as the Bills’ OC. Which indicates the reduction was more a matter of scheme and play calling, not ability. 

In the playoffs it was a matter of ability. He was terrible and cost the Bills bigtime.

[Planet Houston 4,950]

4 hours ago, Hate said:

Goddamn, I’m excited about this team. I would usually go back and forth between Cowboy and Texans games when they were on at the same time. That stopped last year after it became apparent that CJ was the truth and this team was heading someplace. I don’t even check the Cowboys thread anymore. 

Sounds like a typical sunshine fan of convenience from San Antonio. Welcome to the bandwagon, I guess.

[Planet Houston 4,950]

Again, I continue to be surprised in how Caserio has handled this past 12 months like a maestro, and continue to be glad to eat my words that this would never be a successful franchise with the McNairs at the helm. 

On that subject, I truly believe the main factor in letting go of the reins, firing Easterby and changing the culture has been Janice McNair losing her power over the organization. Whether due to health or realization that she had been hoodwinked by O’Brien and Easterby. She was the one that bought all the Bible thumping bullshit, and now she’s clearly out of the equation. 

Edited April 4 by Planet Houston

[Hate 20,248]

1 hour ago, Planet Houston said:

Sounds like a typical sunshine fan of convenience from San Antonio. Welcome to the bandwagon, I guess.

[Planet Houston 4,950]

Accurate user name, yada yada. Fuck Spurs fans.  

Edited April 4 by Planet Houston

[Yev Kassem 1,078]

33 minutes ago, Planet Houston said:

On that subject, I truly believe the main factor in letting go of the reins, firing Easterby and changing the culture has been Janice McNair losing her power over the organization. Whether due to health or realization that she had been hoodwinked by O’Brien and Easterby. She was the one that bought all the Bible thumping bullshit, and now she’s clearly out of the equation. 

The entire McNair family prescribes to the prosperity gospel, not just Mrs. McNair. Texans fans have Hannah McNair (Cal’s wife) to thank for convincing him to dump Easterby. If she hadn’t, that Bible-thumping hack would still be running the org. 

Edited April 4 by Yev Kassem

[Hate 20,248]

46 minutes ago, Planet Houston said:

Accurate user name, yada yada. Fuck Spurs fans.  

[tx 3 putt 78,677]

 

[Planet Houston 4,950]

1 hour ago, Yev Kassem said:

The entire McNair family prescribes to the prosperity gospel, not just Mrs. McNair. Texans fans have Hannah McNair (Cal’s wife) to thank for convincing him to dump Easterby. If she hadn’t, that Bible-thumping hack would still be running the org. 

Yes, I know. I’ve known Hannah a long time. Our posts don’t contradict one another. 

[David Dennison 19,538]

12 hours ago, Macklemore said:

This year’s Texans team is the best NFL squad our city has ever fielded. Better than the 93 Oilers by a lot. STEFON DIGGS BABY!!!

[Fud 9,724]

If I'm taking a random stab at pick #42, I'm guessing Michael Hall Jr, unless Darius Robinson falls 

[IDIOTsavant 8,688]

My random guess for our Day 2 picks: #42 Edgerrin Cooper, #59 Cole Bishop, and #86 Braden Fiske…just straight up the middle of the defense.

Edited April 4 by IDIOTsavant

[Fud 9,724]

8 minutes ago, IDIOTsavant said:

My random guess for our Day 2 picks: #42 Edgerrin Cooper, #59 Cole Bishop, and #86 Braden Fiske…just straight up the middle of the defense.

Cooper and Bishop make sense. I don't think Fiske is realistically there at #86. Good chance he's not even there at #59. 

[IDIOTsavant 8,688]

17 minutes ago, Fud said:

Cooper and Bishop make sense. I don't think Fiske is realistically there at #86. Good chance he's not even there at #59. 

There’s a lot of DTs that are relatively interchangeable in the 2nd/3rd range IMO. I could see any of them going mid 2nd to end of 3rd. Could be Kris Jenkins or Ruke Orhorhoro.  Just think they’ll take the one that falls, and I went with Fiske here since he only has one year of film in a P4/5 league. If he was being valued coming out of Western Michigan, that’s probably about where we’d see him go, but it could be any of them at that point in the draft. 

[Fud 9,724]

Weird move

 

[Hate 20,248]

That’s outstanding! Get a great year from him and then move on. 

Edited April 4 by Hate

[Fud 9,724]

Just now, Hate said:

That’s outstanding! Get 2 great years from him and then move on. 

I believe it's now a one year deal 

A 2nd (likely good 2nd) for one year plus the 5th and 6th rounders 

[TonyTexas 10,766]

Why would the Texans give up 3 years on the contract at a reasonable salary number when none of it is guaranteed? It makes zero sense. Someone  explain this to me. 

[Fud 9,724]

4 minutes ago, TonyTexas said:

Why would the Texans give up 3 years on the contract at a reasonable salary number when none of it is guaranteed? It makes zero sense. Someone  explain this to me. 

They're afraid of Diggs being a cancerous malcontent, I guess

Weird deal. Not great, imo 

[Ignatius 4,142]

So essentially, getting possibly one year of Diggs plus a 6th this year, a 5th next year, and an upgrade of our 7th to a 6th this year cost us a 19-pick downgrade of our 1st rounder this year. Plus, obviously, the $ we pay Diggs this year. Draft capital-wise, that’s not a big spend to get CJ another proven weapon.

The voided years thing is curious outside of the motivational aspect, but I wonder if it isn’t somehow related to Nico’s extension? That or they’re really convinced that either Justin Jefferson or CeeDee Lamb will actually hit FA next year lol…

[TonyTexas 10,766]

12 minutes ago, Fud said:

They're afraid of Diggs being a cancerous malcontent, I guess

Weird deal. Not great, imo 

If he is then they could just cut him next year with no consequences. If not, they are missing out on several years of service. The only thing that remotely makes sense is if they think they can re-sign him at a lower number next year if they decide they want to keep him. Seems unlikely. 

Edited April 4 by TonyTexas