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Mays and Tice talked about how while he's probably a second tier interior DL in the league, he doesn't leave the field; played the most snaps at the position this past year, and the second most two years ago (while playing two fewer games than the leader) 

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Not a bad time at camp today

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Great day for the Texans. 

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Texans were top 3-4 in STs last year in the NFL, good to bring back one of the Top 5 kickers and a big reason the STs are special. Would love for the Texans to take a chance on Keilan Robinson with a late round pick to be a STs demon.

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ESPN gave the Schultz resigning a B+. Said they would have had to use #23 to replace his production, but since they resigned him they can focus that draft capital in other areas. The reporter said he only had 2 TEs in the current draft rated as starters, most likely Bowers and Sanders. Bowers is unlikely to be there at 23 and that is a little high for Sanders.

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24 minutes ago, HtownHorn said:

Texans were top 3-4 in STs last year in the NFL, good to bring back one of the Top 5 kickers and a big reason the STs are special. Would love for the Texans to take a chance on Keilan Robinson with a late round pick to be a STs demon.

Absolutely; Keilan’s got a chance to carve out a 10-year career in the NFL with his special-teams skill alone, and as a bonus he can line up in the backfield from time to time, giving you more roster flexibility…

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ESPN gave the Schultz resigning a B+. Said they would have had to use #23 to replace his production, but since they resigned him they can focus that draft capital in other areas. The reporter said he only had 2 TEs in the current draft rated as starters, most likely Bowers and Sanders. Bowers is unlikely to be there at 23 and that is a little high for Sanders.

That’s where I am on the signing; if this TE draft had the depth of last year’s it might be another story….

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2 hours ago, Jshep34 said:

Very exciting time for Texans. Momentum is heading up at a very fast track. Got the right people in key spots. Football people are running the organization.

Fucking mind blowing how much the momentum has changed around this franchise since the last game of the 2022 season. Future looks really bright for a change.

I’d love to back up the proverbial Brink’s Truck for Chris Jones but that realistically wouldn’t be a good call right now. Wilkins is a really good player, and as the article notes  he’s durable as hell…

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For those who don’t follow mock drafts as closely as Fud, here’s an summary

Table inside Article
MOCK DRAFT TEXANS SELECTION
1. PRO FOOTBALL FOCUS (GORDON MCGUINNESS)  DT JOHNNY NEWTON, ILLINOIS 
2. HOUSTON CHRONICLE (JONATHAN ALEXANDER) DT JOHNNY NEWTON, ILLINOIS 
3. CBS SPORTS (RYAN WILSON) DT JOHNNY NEWTON, ILLINOIS 
4. 33RD TEAM (MARCUS MOSHER) DT JOHNNY NEWTON, ILLINOIS 
5. SPORTS ILLUSTRATED (LUKE EASTERLING)  DT JOHNNY NEWTON, ILLINOIS 
6. FANTASY LIFE (MATTHEW FREEDMAN)  DT JOHNNY NEWTON, ILLINOIS 
7. PRO FOOTBALL FOCUS (TREVOR SIKKEMA)  DT JOHNNY NEWTON, ILLINOIS 
   
1. HOUSTONTEXANS.COM/FOOTBALLTAKEOVER.COM (JOHN HARRIS) DE LAIATU LATU, UCLA
2. THE ATHLETIC (DANE BRUGLER) DE LAIATU LATU, UCLA
3. ESPN (JORDAN REID) DE LAIATU LATU, UCLA
4. PRO FOOTBALL NETWORK (ADAM CAPLAN)  DE LAIATU LATU, UCLA
5. CBS SPORTS (TOM FORNELLI) DE LAIATU LATU, UCLA
   
1. LOS ANGELES TIMES (SAM FARMER) WR BRIAN THOMAS, JR. LSU
2. NFL.COM (DANIEL JEREMIAH) WR BRIAN THOMAS, JR. LSU
3. PRO FOOTBALL NETWORK (OLIVER HODGKINSON)  WR BRIAN THOMAS, JR. LSU
4. THE ATHLETIC (NICK BAUMGARDNER)  WR BRIAN THOMAS, JR. LSU
   
1. NFL.COM (CHARLES DAVIS) CB NATE WIGGINS, CLEMSON
2. CBS SPORTS (KYLE STACKPOLE) CB NATE WIGGINS, CLEMSON
3. SHARP FOOTBALL (BRENDAN DONOHUE) CB NATE WIGGINS, CLEMSON
4. SHARP FOOTBALL ANALYSIS (RYAN MCCRYSTAL) CB NATE WIGGINS, CLEMSON
   
1. NFL.COM (LANCE ZIERLEIN) CB QUINYON MITCHELL, TOLEDO
2. SHARP FOOTBALL ANALYSIS (RYAN MCCRYSTAL)  CB QUINYON MITCHELL, TOLEDO
3. NFL.COM (CYNTHIA FRELUND) CB QUINYON MITCHELL, TOLEDO
   
1. SPORTING NEWS (VINNIE IYER) DT BYRON MURPHY, II TEXAS
2. NFL.COM (BUCKY BROOKS) DT BYRON MURPHY, II TEXAS
3. 33RD TEAM (CONNOR LIVESAY) DT BYRON MURPHY, II TEXAS
   
1. CBS SPORTS (CHRIS TRAPASSO) DE CHOP ROBINSON, PENN STATE 
2. BLEACHER REPORT (SCOUTING DEPARTMENT)  DE CHOP ROBINSON, PENN STATE 
3. CBS SPORTS (JOSH EDWADS) DE CHOP ROBINSON, PENN STATE 
   
1. ESPN (MEL KIPER, JR.) OL TYLER GUYTON, OKLAHOMA ST.
2. NFL.COM (CHAD REUTER) OL TYLER GUYTON, OKLAHOMA ST.
   
1. ESPN (MATT MILLER) CB KOOL-AID MCKINSTRY, ALABAMA 
2. FANTASY PROS (ANDREW ERICKSON) CB KOOL-AID MCKINSTRY, ALABAMA 
   
USA TODAY (DOUG FARRAR) CB TERRION ARNOLD, ALABAMA
CBS SPORTS (WILL BRINSON) DL AUSTIN BOOKER, KANSAS
PRO FOOTBALL NETWORK (IAN CUMMINGS)  DB COOPER DEJEAN, IOWA
THE ATHLETIC (DIANTE LEE) OL TROY FAUTANU, WASHINGTON 
THE DRAFT NETWORK (KEITH SANCHEZ) DT BRADEN FISKE, FLORIDA STATE
WALTER FOOTBALL (CHARLIE CAMPBELL)  DT KRIS JENKINS, MICHIGAN
WALTER FOOTBALL (WALTER CHEREPINSKY)  OL JORDAN MORGAN, ARIZONA
FOX SPORTS (ROB RANG) OT PATRICK PAUL, HOUSTON
ESPN (FIELD YATES) CB ENNIS RAKESTRAW, MISSOURI
THE RINGER (DANNY KELLY) DE DARIUS ROBINSON, MISSOURI
DRAFT COUNTDOWN (SHANE HALLAM) DT T’VONDRE SWEAT, TEXAS
OURLADS DE BRALEN TRICE, WASHINGTON
USA TODAY (NATE DAVIS) DE JARED VERSE, FLORIDA STATE

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2 hours ago, HtownHorn said:

ESPN gave the Schultz resigning a B+. Said they would have had to use #23 to replace his production, but since they resigned him they can focus that draft capital in other areas. The reporter said he only had 2 TEs in the current draft rated as starters, most likely Bowers and Sanders. Bowers is unlikely to be there at 23 and that is a little high for Sanders.

PSU’s TE Theo Johnson should be rated as a starter. He’s a dude 

I also like the KSU TE in the Shanahan offenses

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For those who don’t follow mock drafts as closely as Fud, here’s an summary

Table inside Article
MOCK DRAFT TEXANS SELECTION
1. PRO FOOTBALL FOCUS (GORDON MCGUINNESS)  DT JOHNNY NEWTON, ILLINOIS 
2. HOUSTON CHRONICLE (JONATHAN ALEXANDER) DT JOHNNY NEWTON, ILLINOIS 
3. CBS SPORTS (RYAN WILSON) DT JOHNNY NEWTON, ILLINOIS 
4. 33RD TEAM (MARCUS MOSHER) DT JOHNNY NEWTON, ILLINOIS 
5. SPORTS ILLUSTRATED (LUKE EASTERLING)  DT JOHNNY NEWTON, ILLINOIS 
6. FANTASY LIFE (MATTHEW FREEDMAN)  DT JOHNNY NEWTON, ILLINOIS 
7. PRO FOOTBALL FOCUS (TREVOR SIKKEMA)  DT JOHNNY NEWTON, ILLINOIS 
   
1. HOUSTONTEXANS.COM/FOOTBALLTAKEOVER.COM (JOHN HARRIS) DE LAIATU LATU, UCLA
2. THE ATHLETIC (DANE BRUGLER) DE LAIATU LATU, UCLA
3. ESPN (JORDAN REID) DE LAIATU LATU, UCLA
4. PRO FOOTBALL NETWORK (ADAM CAPLAN)  DE LAIATU LATU, UCLA
5. CBS SPORTS (TOM FORNELLI) DE LAIATU LATU, UCLA
   
1. LOS ANGELES TIMES (SAM FARMER) WR BRIAN THOMAS, JR. LSU
2. NFL.COM (DANIEL JEREMIAH) WR BRIAN THOMAS, JR. LSU
3. PRO FOOTBALL NETWORK (OLIVER HODGKINSON)  WR BRIAN THOMAS, JR. LSU
4. THE ATHLETIC (NICK BAUMGARDNER)  WR BRIAN THOMAS, JR. LSU
   
1. NFL.COM (CHARLES DAVIS) CB NATE WIGGINS, CLEMSON
2. CBS SPORTS (KYLE STACKPOLE) CB NATE WIGGINS, CLEMSON
3. SHARP FOOTBALL (BRENDAN DONOHUE) CB NATE WIGGINS, CLEMSON
4. SHARP FOOTBALL ANALYSIS (RYAN MCCRYSTAL) CB NATE WIGGINS, CLEMSON
   
1. NFL.COM (LANCE ZIERLEIN) CB QUINYON MITCHELL, TOLEDO
2. SHARP FOOTBALL ANALYSIS (RYAN MCCRYSTAL)  CB QUINYON MITCHELL, TOLEDO
3. NFL.COM (CYNTHIA FRELUND) CB QUINYON MITCHELL, TOLEDO
   
1. SPORTING NEWS (VINNIE IYER) DT BYRON MURPHY, II TEXAS
2. NFL.COM (BUCKY BROOKS) DT BYRON MURPHY, II TEXAS
3. 33RD TEAM (CONNOR LIVESAY) DT BYRON MURPHY, II TEXAS
   
1. CBS SPORTS (CHRIS TRAPASSO) DE CHOP ROBINSON, PENN STATE 
2. BLEACHER REPORT (SCOUTING DEPARTMENT)  DE CHOP ROBINSON, PENN STATE 
3. CBS SPORTS (JOSH EDWADS) DE CHOP ROBINSON, PENN STATE 
   
1. ESPN (MEL KIPER, JR.) OL TYLER GUYTON, OKLAHOMA ST.
2. NFL.COM (CHAD REUTER) OL TYLER GUYTON, OKLAHOMA ST.
   
1. ESPN (MATT MILLER) CB KOOL-AID MCKINSTRY, ALABAMA 
2. FANTASY PROS (ANDREW ERICKSON) CB KOOL-AID MCKINSTRY, ALABAMA 
   
USA TODAY (DOUG FARRAR) CB TERRION ARNOLD, ALABAMA
CBS SPORTS (WILL BRINSON) DL AUSTIN BOOKER, KANSAS
PRO FOOTBALL NETWORK (IAN CUMMINGS)  DB COOPER DEJEAN, IOWA
THE ATHLETIC (DIANTE LEE) OL TROY FAUTANU, WASHINGTON 
THE DRAFT NETWORK (KEITH SANCHEZ) DT BRADEN FISKE, FLORIDA STATE
WALTER FOOTBALL (CHARLIE CAMPBELL)  DT KRIS JENKINS, MICHIGAN
WALTER FOOTBALL (WALTER CHEREPINSKY)  OL JORDAN MORGAN, ARIZONA
FOX SPORTS (ROB RANG) OT PATRICK PAUL, HOUSTON
ESPN (FIELD YATES) CB ENNIS RAKESTRAW, MISSOURI
THE RINGER (DANNY KELLY) DE DARIUS ROBINSON, MISSOURI
DRAFT COUNTDOWN (SHANE HALLAM) DT T’VONDRE SWEAT, TEXAS
OURLADS DE BRALEN TRICE, WASHINGTON
USA TODAY (NATE DAVIS) DE JARED VERSE, FLORIDA STATE

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Newton is a popular mock to Houston, but he doesn’t fit what San Fran has gone after early since Shanahan has been there, and he doesn’t fit what NE/Hou have done early since while Caserio was at those places. I think Darius Robinson would be more likely 

If they go pure edge, then Chop vs Latu is an interesting debate. I’d think they’d go with the cleaner medicals 

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1 hour ago, Fud said:

Newton is a popular mock to Houston, but he doesn’t fit what San Fran has gone after early since Shanahan has been there, and he doesn’t fit what NE/Hou have done early since while Caserio was at those places. I think Darius Robinson would be more likely 

If they go pure edge, then Chop vs Latu is an interesting debate. I’d think they’d go with the cleaner medicals 

If you could combine Chop’s athleticism and frame with Latu’s technical ability, football IQ, and motor you’d have a top 3 pick. To be fair, Chop has been lauded for his effort and Latu is not unauthentic, but there’s a reason each is in the discussion at 23….

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ESPN gave the Schultz resigning a B+. Said they would have had to use #23 to replace his production, but since they resigned him they can focus that draft capital in other areas. The reporter said he only had 2 TEs in the current draft rated as starters, most likely Bowers and Sanders. Bowers is unlikely to be there at 23 and that is a little high for Sanders.


too many spots to fill to replace that kind of production 

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There's an crazy number of average and above average starting safeties now on the market. Houston should be able to get at least one at a good value 

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Mays/Tice talked about free agency, and mentioned the Texans a few times

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- Should be players for the top DT (Christian Wilkins) who's going to be very expensive since every team with cap space will be after him, but if Houston doesn't land him, then Leonard Williams for 30% cheaper would make sense for Houston

- When asked which team could pay top of the market for the top safety rather than try to find value at the next tiers, Houston was mentioned first 

- They don't like the Saquon Barkley fit, and think a zone running back who regularly gets you positive yardage makes more sense (like a Henry). Other than RB or a two-way backup TE, they didn't really mentioned Houston on offense

- They like Houston for a #3 rotational DE like Espinesa

- Teair Tart could be a nice upside roll of the dice for some teams, but Houston could bring him back

- They like Houston for a two-way Mike like Jordyn Brooks, or to a lesser extent Azeez Al-Shaair who has experience with Ryans

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/free-agency-preview-best-fits-big-tickets-under-the/id1528622068?i=1000648452479

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Lot of depth/rotation signings today - Desmond King, Eric Murray, Khalil Davis, and lifetime Longhorn Kris Boyd. Good to get some depth pieces out of the way before Monday. Only saw details on King; $1.8MM base/$2.2MM max, and his deal has to be the biggest of the four…

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1 hour ago, HtownHorn said:

Would love to get to get a DL and S in FA, reup Greenard. Then get Worthy at 23.

Has the decision to not tag Greenard been explained? He might be a 1 year wonder. He’s 1 of the reasons they invented the tag, so he could prove himself for another year. 

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We are in a crazy good spot. We can clearly get a S in market, and choosing between Greenard or Wilkins then drafting the other spot is prime because both positions project elite options expected to be available at 23.

Im personally for Greenard, and drafting Newton if we’re lucky or ‘having to settle’ for Byron fucking Murphy at 23, which puts an exclamation on how prime our spot is right now.

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29 minutes ago, The Earl of Texas said:

We are in a crazy good spot. We can clearly get a S in market, and choosing between Greenard or Wilkins then drafting the other spot is prime because both positions project elite options expected to be available at 23.

Im personally for Greenard, and drafting Newton if we’re lucky or ‘having to settle’ for Byron fucking Murphy at 23, which puts an exclamation on how prime our spot is right now.

I hate the idea of having to pay top dollar for Greenard. He's been great, but Demeco is a defensive guru and I hope they kind find cheaper options that can work. 

And I have no clue about scheme/position fit, but Quandre Diggs is still a damn good safety and leader on that side of the ball. I hope they give him a look. 

 

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2 hours ago, HtownHorn said:

Replacement for Rankins?

Hopefully more depth/rotation but we’ll see. All of the smoke seems to be around us and Wilkins, in which case it seems likely Greenard is gone and we address the other DE slot in the draft. I do like the idea of putting a badass next to Anderson rather than across from him but we’ll see very soon..

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The Vikings are one of our competitors to land Christian Wilkins. I wonder if sigining Greenard changes that 

Wilkins to Las Vegas

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