Taylor Sheridan adapting “Empire of the Summer Moon”

[GreenspointTexas 9598]

https://www.dallasnews.com/arts-entertainment/tv/2024/01/22/taylor-sheridan-aims-to-tell-comanche-leader-quanah-parkers-story/?outputType=amp
 

 

If you havent read this masterpiece, now would be the time to do it

[RomaVicta 29902]

It is a masterpiece.

I don't get the fascination with Taylor Sheridan. His first three movies are very good. Since then? Meh. Maybe he'll deliver on this material, but it's far from a sure thing. There's unlimited lattitude with how one tells the stories and history comprising that stellar book.

[strangulation! 1716]

if you can make this, you can make blood meridian.

[TOR 5529]

Fantastic book.  I believe @Hornius Emeritus has talked about the Comanche, Adobe Walls, Quanah Parker, etc.,.  Not sure if this makes a good movie, but the Comancheria is a huge piece of Texas history.  

[GreenspointTexas 9598]

1 hour ago, RomaVicta said:

It is a masterpiece.

I don't get the fascination with Taylor Sheridan. His first three movies are very good. Since then? Meh. Maybe he'll deliver on this material, but it's far from a sure thing. There's unlimited lattitude with how one tells the stories and history comprising that stellar book.

His first 3 movies are incredible. He admitted that Yellowstone “had no plot.” It was clear after the first season that he never expected that show to be picked up for another season or be so popular.

 

mayor of kingstown is fun

1883 was fine

bass reeves was meh

1923 was meh

special ops was solid

 

he’ll always get a pass from me for his writing on his “modern west” trilogy

[Guest]

I'll watch it just for the Comanche war tactics and the women torturing the POWs.

[Parliament 14249]

His first 3 movies were excellent, with Sicario as my fave.  It, and Wind River, have big plot holes and that’s OK.  Everything else is great.

[TrashMaster G 17551]

Fantastic book.

I'll watch just to see how badly he fucks it up.

[Texzilla58 4732]

Fantastic book but I wish someone else was doing the movie. Sheridan is becoming the Tyler Perry of this genre.

I am related to Cynthia Ann Parker and hence, the white side of Quanah Parker. Eager to see how the movie goes. The Comanche were fascinating and the greatest horse cavalry the world ever saw. Chased the Apache out of Texas and nearly pushed the frontier back to the Gulf.

[YChang 3443]

Also a big meh on Sheridan taking this on. 

[GoPokes83 2240]

Fantastic book but I wish someone else was doing the movie. Sheridan is becoming the Tyler Perry of this genre.

I am related to Cynthia Ann Parker and hence, the white side of Quanah Parker. Eager to see how the movie goes. The Comanche were fascinating and the greatest horse cavalry the world ever saw. Chased the Apache out of Texas and nearly pushed the frontier back to the Gulf.

How can you be related to her but not her son?

[freyguy 4265]

She took part in a Comanche train...

[futureman 22444]

1 hour ago, YChang said:

Also a big meh on Sheridan taking this on. 

he's capable of doing it well.  he's done it before.  I'm choosing to be optimistic.

[VivaNaranja 466]

3 hours ago, GoPokes83 said:

How can you be related to her but not her son?

She had siblings. I'm related to her through her uncle Daniel Parker

[Kennythetiger 9376]

I feel like I am in the spirit world. With spirit family trees. 

[Reynolds Woodcock 4739]

19 hours ago, Texzilla58 said:

Sheridan is becoming the Tyler Perry of this genre.
 

Bravo, sir

[Eskimohorn 5633]

Fantastic book but I wish someone else was doing the movie. Sheridan is becoming the Tyler Perry of this genre.

I am related to Cynthia Ann Parker and hence, the white side of Quanah Parker. Eager to see how the movie goes. The Comanche were fascinating and the greatest horse cavalry the world ever saw. Chased the Apache out of Texas and nearly pushed the frontier back to the Gulf.

The Comanche’s impact on world history is dwarfed by the Mongol Empire, who ended civilizations with their horse calvary.

[Daichee Bell 2925]

While you’re at it, read Blood and Thunder by Hampton Sides. 

[Kennythetiger 9376]

13 minutes ago, Eskimohorn said:

The Comanche’s impact on world history is dwarfed by the Mongol Empire, who ended civilizations with their horse calvary.

Cavalry?  

[Knoxtnhorn 5971]

On 1/23/2024 at 12:25 PM, Texzilla58 said:

Fantastic book but I wish someone else was doing the movie. Sheridan is becoming the Tyler Perry of this genre.

I am related to Cynthia Ann Parker and hence, the white side of Quanah Parker. Eager to see how the movie goes. The Comanche were fascinating and the greatest horse cavalry the world ever saw. Chased the Apache out of Texas and nearly pushed the frontier back to the Gulf.

What's up cuz.  I, too, am related to Cynthia Ann.  I can take it one step further.  Davy Crockett himself (Fess Parker) is in the same lineage.  His mother was apparently a pain in the ass at my parents' wedding in 1969.  

[Macanudo 12976]

1 hour ago, Daichee Bell said:

While you’re at it, read Blood and Thunder by Hampton Sides. 

Do yourself a favor and read everything Hampton Sides has written.

[Parliament 14249]

53 minutes ago, Kennythetiger said:

Cavalry?  

Tomato, potato

[Dish Boggett 67]

On 1/23/2024 at 10:58 AM, GreenspointTexas said:

 

 

he’ll always get a pass from me for his writing on his “modern west” trilogy

 

I was late to the whole Yellow Stone and 1893 series. I listen to T Sheridan on a podcast recently talk about the influence of Lonesome Dove had on him so I thought I would start with 1893.  It's pretty good but hard not to see all the similarities in the story line and Characters.

Shea Brennan is no Woodrow F. Call.

 

 

[Guest]

14 hours ago, Eskimohorn said:

The Comanche’s impact on world history is dwarfed by the Mongol Empire, who ended civilizations with their horse calvary.

So you're giving the Mongols credit for taking out Jesus too?

[DDD Dad 14331]

On 1/23/2024 at 8:44 AM, RomaVicta said:

It is a masterpiece.

I don't get the fascination with Taylor Sheridan. His first three movies are very good. Since then? Meh. Maybe he'll deliver on this material, but it's far from a sure thing. There's unlimited lattitude with how one tells the stories and history comprising that stellar book.

Yellowstone is ass. Change my mind. 

[Eskimohorn 5633]

Jesus Christ, you spellcheckers. The worst people on the internet.

[Kennythetiger 9376]

1 hour ago, Dish Boggett said:

 

I was late to the whole Yellow Stone and 1893 series. I listen to T Sheridan on a podcast recently talk about the influence of Lonesome Dove had on him so I thought I would start with 1893.  It's pretty good but hard not to see all the similarities in the story line and Characters.

Shea Brennan is no Woodrow F. Call.

 

 

If it’s all right with you Dish, we won’t wait. 

[Knoxtnhorn 5971]

The first half of 1883 was decent.  The 2nd half was some of the worst shit I've ever seen on TV. And I rarely pick shows apart.  I I just try to be entertained.

I don't mind Yellowstone for what it is - an updated Dallas.

[Guest]

5 minutes ago, Knoxtnhorn said:

The first half of 1883 was decent.  The 2nd half was some of the worst shit I've ever seen on TV. And I rarely pick shows apart.  I I just try to be entertained.

I don't mind Yellowstone for what it is - an updated Dallas.

Here's hoping Empire isn't a reworked Bonanza.

[Knoxtnhorn 5971]

3 minutes ago, slorch said:

Here's hoping Empire isn't a reworked Bonanza.

Or, what was that 50's or 60's sitcom with the fort and the indians (Native Americans).  I used to live that show on Nickelodeon 

[Kennythetiger 9376]

12 minutes ago, slorch said:

Here's hoping Empire isn't a reworked Bonanza.

We weren’t gay, but thank god Hop Sing was. 

[DDD Dad 14331]

54 minutes ago, Knoxtnhorn said:

Or, what was that 50's or 60's sitcom with the fort and the indians (Native Americans).  I used to live that show on Nickelodeon 

F Troop

RIP Larry Storch. 

[Eskimohorn 5633]

What struck me about the book was how deep it cut at Old West and Native portrayals in pop culture.

You’d both sympathize and be revolted by how Comanches operated as a warrior tribe. They were like apex predators and if couldnt provide them value they saw you as lesser beings. They cared only about taking care of their own people.

I’d like to see a fair depiction of their strength and rejection of western culture’s morality. Which might upset people.

I do expect the same old wise Indian monologues over peace pipes talking about the white men.

What was depicted in the book was these evil bastards (from our perspective) were terrorizing whites and natives alike. They’d get paid to stop raiding, then break treaties, only to have the ignorant US government terrorize other, more peaceful tribes confused it was Comanches.

We’ll see. Think Sheridan would be best outsourcing some of this work to others to make it fresh.

Did I spell all the words correctly? @slorch

[Guest]

Good Kwahadi almighty, I think you did it!!!

 

Sorry, Calvary and Cavalry is a pet peeve of mine.  Red Raiders are probably one of yours.

Edited January 25 by slorch

[BrickHorn 18217]

2 hours ago, Eskimohorn said:

What was depicted in the book was these evil bastards (from our perspective) were terrorizing whites and natives alike.

I mean, kinda. I felt that the book was more objective. It presented the Comanches as human beings living in a culture that, albeit alien and hostile to Anglos, had its own internal logic and was understandable given its roots and context. Comanches lived like pretty much any plains tribe had been for centuries (millennia?). They were just doing it more effectively than their competitors. 

[kevwun 15769]

They had been driven out of their home territory and survived on the fringes until they got horses.  Then they took out all that pent up aggression on everyone they encountered.

[futureman 22444]

any word on movie or series?  would probably prefer a well-funded series. 

[Elvis 3371]

1 hour ago, futureman said:

any word on movie or series?  would probably prefer a well-funded series. 

[tx 3 putt 76880]

On 1/23/2024 at 10:10 AM, slorch said:

I'll watch it just for the Comanche war tactics and the women torturing the POWs.

 

Comanche beth dutton incoming 

[deadshank 24652]

[MagicSoccerSpray 1732]

7 hours ago, Knoxtnhorn said:

I don't mind Yellowstone for what it is - an updated Dallas.

 

General Horsepital

[NotActuallyALonghorn 4975]

4 hours ago, kevwun said:

They had been driven out of their home territory and survived on the fringes until they got horses.  Then they took out all that pent up aggression on everyone they encountered.

They also beat The Predator. Don't think any of the other tribes did that. 

[Eskimohorn 5633]

I mean, kinda. I felt that the book was more objective. It presented the Comanches as human beings living in a culture that, albeit alien and hostile to Anglos, had its own internal logic and was understandable given its roots and context. Comanches lived like pretty much any plains tribe had been for centuries (millennia?). They were just doing it more effectively than their competitors. 

Like I said, from our perspective, they were evil bastards. But they took care of their own and I agree they had their own logic. There were other tribes that werent nomads and they were shit out of luck unless they could trade something of value.

[Texzilla58 4732]

I mean, kinda. I felt that the book was more objective. It presented the Comanches as human beings living in a culture that, albeit alien and hostile to Anglos, had its own internal logic and was understandable given its roots and context. Comanches lived like pretty much any plains tribe had been for centuries (millennia?). They were just doing it more effectively than their competitors. 

The Comanche were a fairly meek tribe in the northern plains until they got the horse. They weren’t just hostile to Anglos. They chased the Apache out of Texas, subjugated and enslaved other tribes CEO their Kiowa allies, and fought Spanish, Mexican, and American settlers, conquistadors, and rangers. Buffalo Hump nearly drove the frontier into the Gulf.

 
Comanche beth dutton incoming 

If she gets nekkid I have no issue

[Texzilla58 4732]

The Comanche’s impact on world history is dwarfed by the Mongol Empire, who ended civilizations with their horse calvary.

The Comanche, given equal numbers, would have made the mongols turn tail and retreat in the face of warriors shooting a dozen arrows a minute from under the bellies of their horses.

[Texzilla58 4732]

How can you be related to her but not her son?

Huh? I said I’m related to her and the white side of Quanah. If I say I’m related to him they always say “oh you’re Comanche?” Uhh not directly.

[Eskimohorn 5633]

The Comanche, given equal numbers, would have made the mongols turn tail and retreat in the face of warriors shooting a dozen arrows a minute from under the bellies of their horses.

“Give me an Army of West Point graduates and I'll win a battle. Give me a handful of Texas Aggies and I'll win a war.” - fake George Patton

[Celery Man 20933]

[The Original Greaser Bob 2822]

9 hours ago, Texzilla58 said:

The Comanche, given equal numbers, would have made the mongols turn tail and retreat in the face of warriors shooting a dozen arrows a minute from under the bellies of their horses.

Yeah, but the problem for the Camanch were dog holes and guys who wouldn't hide behind anything.

[The Original Greaser Bob 2822]

9 hours ago, Texzilla58 said:

The Comanche, given equal numbers, would have made the mongols turn tail and retreat in the face of warriors shooting a dozen arrows a minute from under the bellies of their horses.

If Mr. Arthur were a mongol he would tell people "We can't have that."

In mongol language.