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2 hours ago, Chuckie Finster said:

Why I stopped voting Republican, summed up in a single poll.

Yup.

When I looked around and said, "y'all were pissed about Bill Clinton and his character but this guy is OK because he's your guy?"

That was it.  Never looked back.

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5 minutes ago, texasdago said:

Yup.

When I looked around and said, "y'all were pissed about Bill Clinton and his character but this guy is OK because he's your guy?"

That was it.  Never looked back.

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A lot of this.  I was (and still am) pissed at Bill Clinton for both lying straight to our faces while wagging his finger, and lying under oath.  And when I took that position, all of my Republican pals were nodding along with me.  And now that I apply the exact same standard to Dotard, they are nowhere to be found.  Fucking pathetic piece of shit hypocrites -- that's all that's left in the GQP.

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Posted
2 hours ago, Chuckie Finster said:

 

 

Not just republicans but McCarthy and Mikey Johnson.   The same 2 dipshits  that were out negotiated and out maneuvered at every turn by Sleepy Joe.  That is their source for this "article". 

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https://www.newsweek.com/joe-biden-donald-trump-polls-battleground-states-1908358

 

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President Joe Biden has overtaken his Republican challenger Donald Trump in three battleground states, according to polls five months before the presidential election.

In March, the incumbent and the former president won enough primary races to secure, respectively, the Democratic and Republican nominations in the 2024 presidential election. Polls have so far shown that the results will be tight as the pair are statistically tied in most surveys, or enjoying only marginal leads.

According to swing state polling by Florida Atlantic University (FAU) and Mainstreet Research, however, there are signs Biden is gaining ground in three key states.



 

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President Joe Biden has overtaken his Republican challenger Donald Trump in three battleground states, according to polls five months before the presidential election.

In March, the incumbent and the former president won enough primary races to secure, respectively, the Democratic and Republican nominations in the 2024 presidential election. Polls have so far shown that the results will be tight as the pair are statistically tied in most surveys, or enjoying only marginal leads.

According to swing state polling by Florida Atlantic University (FAU) and Mainstreet Research, however, there are signs Biden is gaining ground in three key states.

Due to the U.S's Electoral College system, which awards each state a certain number of electoral votes based on population, battleground states will play a key role in determining the result of the election. A presidential candidate needs to secure 270 electoral votes for victory, and winning the national popular vote does not guarantee success. Surveys from those battleground states could be more telling than those of national polls.

In Wisconsin, when third-party candidates are included, 38 percent of respondents said they would vote for Biden while 31 percent would vote for Trump, according to the poll.

Under the same circumstances in Michigan, 41 percent said they would vote for Biden and 39 percent said they would vote for Trump.

In Pennsylvania, Biden would also win with 41 percent of the vote to Trump's 39 percent.

Biden won in these states by slim margins in the 2020 presidential election, taking all three from Trump after he won the three key states in 2016. In 2020, Biden won Michigan by 2.8 percent of the vote, Pennsylvania with 1.2 percent and Wisconsin with less than 1 percent.

Previous polls had indicated that Trump was ahead in key battleground states, including in polls that took into account third-party candidates.

The FAU/Mainstreet Research polling was conducted between May 30-May 31. It was partially completed online so a margin of error cannot be assigned to it, FAU said, but the pollsters added that a poll of this size would normally carry a margin of error of plus or minus 3.5 percent.

However, speaking to Newsweek Todd Landman, a professor of political science at Nottingham University in the U.K., said it was "still too far out from the election" to read much into swing state polls.

He said: "The race remains highly volatile, and it is still too far out from the election to make any firm conclusion from changing polls across these swing states."

He added that legal proceedings against Joe Biden's son, Hunter Biden, as well as sentencing in Trump's hush money case, which he was last week found guilty in could also affect voter's opinions.

"The Hunter Biden proceedings in Delaware are just underway and there is a very long time to go politically, with many unknown events that will have effects on voter preferences and choices at the national and state level," he said. "The sentencing for the Manhattan case is five weeks away and much could still happen that could change the electoral landscape."

Newsweek contacted representatives for Biden and Trump by email outside of business hours to comment on this story.

The presidential election will take place on November 5.



 

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5 minutes ago, TeeDubya said:

He added that legal proceedings against Joe Biden's son, Hunter Biden, as well as sentencing in Trump's hush money case, which he was last week found guilty in could also affect voter's opinions.

"The Hunter Biden proceedings in Delaware are just underway and there is a very long time to go politically, with many unknown events that will have effects on voter preferences and choices at the national and state level," he said. "The sentencing for the Manhattan case is five weeks away and much could still happen that could change the electoral landscape."

Yeah, Biden's son checked a box on a form he shouldn't have, and Trump was convicted of 34 felonies. So, both sides. 

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Posted
42 minutes ago, TeeDubya said:

https://www.newsweek.com/joe-biden-donald-trump-polls-battleground-states-1908358

 



 

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President Joe Biden has overtaken his Republican challenger Donald Trump in three battleground states, according to polls five months before the presidential election.

In March, the incumbent and the former president won enough primary races to secure, respectively, the Democratic and Republican nominations in the 2024 presidential election. Polls have so far shown that the results will be tight as the pair are statistically tied in most surveys, or enjoying only marginal leads.

According to swing state polling by Florida Atlantic University (FAU) and Mainstreet Research, however, there are signs Biden is gaining ground in three key states.

Due to the U.S's Electoral College system, which awards each state a certain number of electoral votes based on population, battleground states will play a key role in determining the result of the election. A presidential candidate needs to secure 270 electoral votes for victory, and winning the national popular vote does not guarantee success. Surveys from those battleground states could be more telling than those of national polls.

In Wisconsin, when third-party candidates are included, 38 percent of respondents said they would vote for Biden while 31 percent would vote for Trump, according to the poll.

Under the same circumstances in Michigan, 41 percent said they would vote for Biden and 39 percent said they would vote for Trump.

In Pennsylvania, Biden would also win with 41 percent of the vote to Trump's 39 percent.

Biden won in these states by slim margins in the 2020 presidential election, taking all three from Trump after he won the three key states in 2016. In 2020, Biden won Michigan by 2.8 percent of the vote, Pennsylvania with 1.2 percent and Wisconsin with less than 1 percent.

Previous polls had indicated that Trump was ahead in key battleground states, including in polls that took into account third-party candidates.

The FAU/Mainstreet Research polling was conducted between May 30-May 31. It was partially completed online so a margin of error cannot be assigned to it, FAU said, but the pollsters added that a poll of this size would normally carry a margin of error of plus or minus 3.5 percent.

However, speaking to Newsweek Todd Landman, a professor of political science at Nottingham University in the U.K., said it was "still too far out from the election" to read much into swing state polls.

He said: "The race remains highly volatile, and it is still too far out from the election to make any firm conclusion from changing polls across these swing states."

He added that legal proceedings against Joe Biden's son, Hunter Biden, as well as sentencing in Trump's hush money case, which he was last week found guilty in could also affect voter's opinions.

"The Hunter Biden proceedings in Delaware are just underway and there is a very long time to go politically, with many unknown events that will have effects on voter preferences and choices at the national and state level," he said. "The sentencing for the Manhattan case is five weeks away and much could still happen that could change the electoral landscape."

Newsweek contacted representatives for Biden and Trump by email outside of business hours to comment on this story.

The presidential election will take place on November 5.



 

So these are the polls we do trust, and not the ones that we don't trust?

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Posted
22 minutes ago, aggie08 said:

So these are the polls we do trust, and not the ones that we don't trust?

Trust none of them.  Polls are presently as broken as our collective brain.

In a sane timeline, a psychotic pathologically lying narcissist and convicted felon would be losing to "generic former senator" (which is truly what Biden is) by thirty fucking points.

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Posted
28 minutes ago, aggie08 said:

So these are the polls we do trust, and not the ones that we don't trust?

Yeah, we trust the poll that has Biden kicking ass in Wisconsin while barely holding on in Michigan and Pennsylvania 

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Kamala vs Haley? I’d gladly take that race but not mistake after democracy is no longer on the ballot (Haley is a Republican normie) we still have the fuckstains who think this country is only for WASEs* versus the rest of us. So it’s an incremental improvement but still vote for the Donkeys fuck the Elephants! 

*used to be White Anglo Saxon Protestants now it’s White Anglo Saxon Evangelicals.

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Posted (edited)
3 minutes ago, troph said:

Kamala vs Haley? I’d gladly take that race but not mistake after democracy is no longer on the ballot (Haley is a Republican normie) we still have the fuckstains who think this country is only for WASEs* versus the rest of us. So it’s an incremental improvement but still vote for the Donkeys fuck the Elephants! 

*used to be White Anglo Saxon Protestants now it’s White Anglo Saxon Evangelicals.

My guess is (assuming it happened before October) we’d see a scramble that would result in Newsome vs Rubio.  I would take that in a heartbeat.

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Posted
19 hours ago, Horn Dog said:

Not just republicans but McCarthy and Mikey Johnson.   The same 2 dipshits  that were out negotiated and out maneuvered at every turn by Sleepy Joe.  That is their source for this "article". 

That's not the way I understood the podcst on this. Sounds like they had lots of Dems and Republicans, and both were spinning the fact that he's obviously slowing down. 

I'm not going to blame the media 100% that the Dems chose to stick with Biden.  We all knew the risks.

 

 

 

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Both candidates are on death’s doorsteps, news at 11.

WSJ did a hack job if they don’t do a piece showing DJT is a walking corpse as well. At least Biden stutters, what’s DJT’s excuse?

 

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Posted
11 minutes ago, Red Five said:

I had a dream that Joe replaced Kamala with Michelle Obama.

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Leave her alone. 

Posted (edited)
22 minutes ago, Red Five said:

I had a dream that Joe replaced Kamala with Michelle Obama.

Imagine the heads exploding if Joe replaced himself w Michelle; GQP would lose their shit having 2 black women crush dotard.

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Posted
15 hours ago, Brisketexan said:

Trust none of them.  Polls are presently as broken as our collective brain.

In a sane timeline, a psychotic pathologically lying narcissist and convicted felon would be losing to "generic former senator" (which is truly what Biden is) by thirty fucking points.

Unfortunately, this timeline includes the mainstream media and Fox News.

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Biden's health seems fine for his age. I love how people just ignore that he's been open about his stutter his entire career. Meanwhile, Dotard is shitting himself in court and falling asleep, drooling on camera, and looks fatter and fatter each time he steps foot on his fucking golf course. So obviously, the same. JFC.

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Posted
1 hour ago, The Original Greaser Bob said:

That's not the way I understood the podcst on this. Sounds like they had lots of Dems and Republicans, and both were spinning the fact that he's obviously slowing down. 

I'm not going to blame the media 100% that the Dems chose to stick with Biden.  We all knew the risks.

 

 

 

You understood wrong. 

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Posted
55 minutes ago, The Original Greaser Bob said:

That's not the way I understood the podcst on this. Sounds like they had lots of Dems and Republicans, and both were spinning the fact that he's obviously slowing down. 

I'm not going to blame the media 100% that the Dems chose to stick with Biden.  We all knew the risks.

 

 

 

There are exactly 2 named sources in this article who say Biden is unfit.  Johnson and McCarthy.  One other pub senator from Idaho says something like Biden in real life is as you see on TV.   All the other "sources" are unnamed.  Who are the Dems?   Sinema?  Manchin?   A "unnamed dem" means absolutely nothing and should be treated as such.  But sure,  lets see what the "unnamed dems" actually said according to the article-

 

"Some who have worked with him, however, including Democrats and some who have known him back to his time as vice president, described a president who appears slower now, someone who has both good moments and bad ones."   

"Some who attended the meetings attributed off-key moments to his speech impediment and his tendency to be long-winded. Those who expressed concern about Biden said the behavior they saw suggested an unevenness, not the caricature of an addled leader that some of his political opponents draw. "

 

Has 80yr old Biden slowed down, is less sharp than in his prime, and had "bad moments"??  Sure... as have all of us over the age of 40.   But for the two named sources to criticize his negotiating ability, when they both were clearly out negotiated by Sleepy Joe  is par for the course for the alternative facts party. 

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Posted
3 minutes ago, Dahobbs said:

You understood wrong. 

And more idiocy about “sticking with” Biden. Sure let’s give up incumbency. Worked great in 68. Had no lasting ramifications or anything 

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Posted
4 minutes ago, Js1 said:

And more idiocy about “sticking with” Biden. Sure let’s give up incumbency. Worked great in 68. Had no lasting ramifications or anything 

side note: probably would not have had lasting ramifications if it wasn't for something that happened on this very date in 1968: RFKs death.

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16 minutes ago, 'stache said:

Biden's health seems fine for his age. I love how people just ignore that he's been open about his stutter his entire career. Meanwhile, Dotard is shitting himself in court and falling asleep, drooling on camera, and looks fatter and fatter each time he steps foot on his fucking golf course. So obviously, the same. JFC.

Yeah, I gotta admit...there was a time a couple years ago when Trump was looking "okay" for his age.  I think the grind of the office, and just golfing and grifting and probably moving around a bit more seemed to agree with a fat guy of his age.  But the last 6 months, oof-magoof.  He is not looking well, he's obviously staying up too late, eating like shit again, and although he consciously denies the stress---his body knows something is afoul and is poisoning itself from within.  The news from 2 of other 3 trials is not great for us, but if they can at least force him to make some personal appearances and grind him down physically, plus his media/fundraising stumps...it can likely beat him into a pulp within a year or so as I've redundantly posted.  But you gotta admit, he is looking and sounding way worse than he was just 18 months ago.  

I still think Ben E. Keith is going to be the American Hero we all didn't know we needed when this is all said and done.  

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35 minutes ago, troph said:

Kamala vs Haley? I’d gladly take that race but not mistake after democracy is no longer on the ballot (Haley is a Republican normie) we still have the fuckstains who think this country is only for WASEs* versus the rest of us. So it’s an incremental improvement but still vote for the Donkeys fuck the Elephants! 

*used to be White Anglo Saxon Protestants now it’s White Anglo Saxon Evangelicals.

There is 0 chance that Haley gets the nod. She was the only person brave enough to throw her hat in. They would bring someone far far worse than even desantis 

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Posted
4 minutes ago, immamac said:

There is 0 chance that Haley gets the nod. She was the only person brave enough to throw her hat in. They would bring someone far far worse than even desantis 

Tucker Carlson, imo.

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If the GOP had to turn to someone else right now, I don't believe their voters would want Haley. The Trump side will remember what she said about Trump and some of her voters will feel betrayed how she turned back to Trump.  Now if the GOP leadership, whoever they might be, decides to push Haley to front, most of the GOP voters will fall in line.

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Posted
54 minutes ago, Js1 said:

And more idiocy about “sticking with” Biden. Sure let’s give up incumbency. Worked great in 68. Had no lasting ramifications or anything 

It's amazing that people don't understand the negative politics associated with intra-party challenges to an incumbency. 

Ted Kennedy did Jimmy Carter no favors.

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Posted
1 hour ago, Js1 said:

And more idiocy about “sticking with” Biden. Sure let’s give up incumbency. Worked great in 68. Had no lasting ramifications or anything 

I get your point, but let's not act like LBJ winning in 68 was a foregone conclusion.  His approval rating had dropped from 80% in 1964 to 40% in 1968.

The increasing involvement in the Vietnam war was a big factor nationwide, and voting rights, civil rights, immigration reform, and nomination of Marshall to SCOTUS didn't help his cause in the south, where he won all the electoral votes in 64.

Maybe he wins in 68 and maybe he doesn't, obviously we'll never know, but either way, I don't think you can extrapolate 68 to today.

Posted
1 hour ago, David Dennison said:

It's amazing that people don't understand the negative politics associated with intra-party challenges to an incumbency. 

Or that people don't understand the negative aspects of staying the course.

Wouldn't it be great if you and I could actually consider the alternative? 

That would be really cool.

Posted
1 hour ago, The Original Greaser Bob said:

Or that people don't understand the negative aspects of staying the course.

Wouldn't it be great if you and I could actually consider the alternative? 

That would be really cool.

There are historical precedents for both, and the results aren't close



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