2024 Presidential Election Thread - Let's keep the party going.

[WhatTheBuck 28574]

1 hour ago, Aqua Buddha said:

Really?

Sure, Donny. Now tell us you don’t know who Johnny McEntee is.

https://www.heritage.org/press/former-ppo-director-john-mcentee-joins-project-2025-personnel-database-launches

[chainsaw 9456]

yadda yadda it was their most essential command

Edited July 5 by chainsaw

[David Dennison 17674]

Holy cow, the Dems have a playbook. Hammer Project 2025.

I fully expect them to screw this up.

[BrickTop 471]

Still too monumental to pivot candidates?

[Sawbonz 26742]

The biggest problem I’m seeing with Harris seems to be people not liking her stupid ass catchphrase. So if she stops trying to make fetch happen, what issues are left? I think she will be ruthless against him and she could be out there 24 seven pounding away at him while Biden can have his warm milk and be in bed by eight 

[Sawbonz 26742]

I guess some loonies on the far left think she’s a cop, but how many of them are you going to lose relative to votes in the middle you can hold onto?

[safe sex 11545]

I think she's a cop, but I'll still vote for her if she's at the top of the ticket; anything to keep from being a refugee (tho I'm aiming to be out of the country on Jan 20th, just in case)

[Js1 82451]

25 minutes ago, YGIFS said:

According to many pundits and most of this forum, Trump turned out 10mm new voters because of a Black President.  And turned out another 10mm new voters because of the possibility of a female President.  There are receipts.  Do you all not remember the last 9 years of lectures?  

Are you going to ask or repeat this 17 more times a day or what?

You keep telling us it’s not your party, so your concern is noted, thank you very much

[Loch Ness Monster 3529]

Has Kamala been giving many interviews? Seems Dems strategy is to be quiet and hope Trump will hand them the election.

Literally anyone competent would win this election fairly easily. Any time Biden steps out now he loses his train of thought smh.

[Pancho 41879]

 

[YGIFS 19444]

2 minutes ago, Js1 said:

Are you going to ask or repeat this 17 more times a day or what?

You keep telling us it’s not your party, so your concern is noted, thank you very much

Fair point.  But did not much of this forum berate the point, even more than I do and that's saying something, that Trump's campaign brought out millions of voters who were upset with the memory of a Black president and the notion of a female president.  And didn't those two turnouts not turn the tide of the 2016 election?  Or I am I missing something that you've yet to explain?  

[hobbes2702 12483]

2 minutes ago, Loch Ness Monster said:

Has Kamala been giving many interviews? Seems Dems strategy is to be quiet and hope Trump will hand them the election.

Literally anyone competent would win this election fairly easily. Any time Biden steps out now he loses his train of thought smh.

Absolute false 

[Js1 82451]

 

[Vegas64 640]

5 minutes ago, Loch Ness Monster said:

Has Kamala been giving many interviews? Seems Dems strategy is to be quiet and hope Trump will hand them the election.

Literally anyone competent would win this election fairly easily. Any time Biden steps out now he loses his train of thought smh.

She was at the BET awards and doing skits with a very strong GOTV message, making sure everyone knows how important this all is, if they aren't clued in or necessarily engaged politically. 

[Nice Guy Eddie 13280]

ABC is turning over the prime time schedule tonight for their interview with Biden. While Biden can't win the presidency tonight, he sure can lose it. It will be interesting if Stephanopolous will save him if he starts to wander off.

A debate format works the worse for someone in Biden's condition. An interview is much better when a short coherent answer is sufficient. And usually an interviewer is not an adversary so you're not looking to hit back at them with a zinger or fact check them.

[mdmost 42182]

5 minutes ago, Js1 said:

 

Ah, well she curses like a sailor and says the F word. I don't think I can vote for a person like that. /voter in middle America

[Red Five 40125]

1 minute ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

ABC is turning over the prime time schedule tonight for their interview with Biden. While Biden can't win the presidency tonight, he sure can lose it. It will be interesting if Stephanopolous will save him if he starts to wander off.

A debate format works the worse for someone in Biden's condition. An interview is much better when a short coherent answer is sufficient. And usually an interviewer is not an adversary so you're not looking to hit back at them with a zinger or fact check them.

This isn't live, is it?

[Covri 6138]

 

[Red Five 40125]

"Let me say this as clearly as I can"

Maybe phrase that a little differently Joe.

[Nice Guy Eddie 13280]

4 minutes ago, Red Five said:

This isn't live, is it?

Fairly certain it's not live but was/is being conducted today.

Critics will say that it's edited and/or George is protecting Biden. However I don't think tonight is about critics or Trump voters. Biden needs to win over the Democrat party.

Edited July 5 by Nice Guy Eddie

[David Dennison 17674]

That old man better get real comfortable talking about Project 2025.

[Biff Tannen 44929]

Alright, saddle up mofos. 

[mdmost 42182]

6 minutes ago, Covri said:

 

But can he say this when it's needed and not go deer in the headlights?

[David Dennison 17674]

I'm just glad we won't see any more pieces from left leaning pundits urging Joe Biden to drop out of the race.

[mdmost 42182]

Just now, David Dennison said:

I'm just glad we won't see any more pieces from left leaning pundits urging Joe Biden to drop out of the race.

Yes, instead it will be a combo of them after each gaffe and his former colleagues.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/ar-BB1puihw

[Loch Ness Monster 3529]

Bidens not reading off a teleprompter? Hoping he doesn't freeze up or start saying we need to defeat Medicare.

[Covri 6138]

2 minutes ago, David Dennison said:

I'm just glad we won't see any more pieces from left leaning pundits urging Joe Biden to drop out of the race.

Point of order. They’d already moved on to bashing Kamala as a replacement for Joe.

[David Dennison 17674]

2 minutes ago, Loch Ness Monster said:

Bidens not reading off a teleprompter? Hoping he doesn't freeze up or start saying we need to defeat Medicare.

I kinda hope he does and wins anyway.

 

[DixonHur 10833]

21 minutes ago, Covri said:

 

[Surly Bevo 24270]

I mean Mack Brown was the coach at UNC until he wasn't

Roy Williams was the coach at Kansas until he wasn't

Schloss was the coach at aggy.....

[GW Hayduke 1943]

[Vegas64 640]

If you are all rooting for another disaster, you will be sorely disappointed. From what I can tell, this won't be live. There will be a chance to cut out anything absolutely egregious and everything else will work itself out.

Everyone chill.

 

[Dnaguy 11543]

31 minutes ago, Covri said:

 

[The Hot Dog Buffet 1254]

Just now, Vegas64 said:

If you are all rooting for another disaster, you will be sorely disappointed. From what I can tell, this won't be live. There will be a chance to cut out anything absolutely egregious and everything else will work itself out.

Everyone chill.

 

I'm not sure ABC has any reason to edit this interview in his favor. Biden stepping down would be a ratings bonanza.

[Captain Obvious 500]

32 minutes ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

ABC is turning over the prime time schedule tonight for their interview with Biden. While Biden can't win the presidency tonight, he sure can lose it. It will be interesting if Stephanopolous will save him if he starts to wander off.

A debate format works the worse for someone in Biden's condition. An interview is much better when a short coherent answer is sufficient. And usually an interviewer is not an adversary so you're not looking to hit back at them with a zinger or fact check them.

If Biden starts to wander off, Stephanopolous better not save him.  If he can't pull off an interview in a friendly setting, it should hammer home the point that he can't be the nominee any longer.  The best case scenario for the interview is Biden buys time until the next interview/public appearance, rinse and repeat until election day.

[Vegas64 640]

Honestly, rewatching some clips today, if Biden's voice wasn't hoarse, I think it's less of a story. The hoarseness made him appear weaker and feeble, but if you have listened to any of his other speeches, his non-sick voice coupled with his talking points nobody was freaking out. 

He needs to go on this interview, put some bass in his voice, and be definitive and strong and energized. We got this.

1 minute ago, The Hot Dog Buffet said:

I'm not sure ABC has any reason to edit this interview in his favor. Biden stepping down would be a ratings bonanza.

I mean. The fate of the democracy hangs in the balance, I'm sure ABC powers that be knows this.

[The Hot Dog Buffet 1254]

If Joe Biden were up 5 or 6 points, holding onto him would make sense. He's losing right now, though. How on earth do people think he's going to make up ground by taking the occasional interview, praying he doesn't fuck everything up, and then hobbling on to the next one a few weeks later?

[Captain Obvious 500]

Just now, The Hot Dog Buffet said:

If Joe Biden were up 5 or 6 points, holding onto him would make sense. He's losing right now, though. How on earth do people think he's going to make up ground by taking the occasional interview, praying he doesn't fuck everything up, and then hobbling on to the next one a few weeks later?

Bracing for the worst-case scenario of Biden holding it together in this interview, staying the candidate, holding it together until September/October, then having another debate-like episode and there's literally no time to to do damage control or get someone else.

[Pancho 41879]

1 minute ago, The Hot Dog Buffet said:

If Joe Biden were up 5 or 6 points, holding onto him would make sense. He's losing right now, though. How on earth do people think he's going to make up ground by taking the occasional interview, praying he doesn't fuck everything up, and then hobbling on to the next one a few weeks later?

Obama, Clinton, and trunp (i think trunp) were all losing at this point in the race as well. 

This country has short attention spans. It looks like making the public aware that this is Trump’s Project 2025 is working based on their (trunp) messaging today and what their surrogates are saying on the news stations. 

The hope is Dems can do something right for a fucking change and pounce on that. 

But on a different side, it also looks like tuna and his team are freaking out about Harris because of how you attack a Black woman looks shitty no matter what. 

I think we will all know whether or not to freak out more or calm down after tonight.

[Dnaguy 11543]

8 minutes ago, The Hot Dog Buffet said:

If Joe Biden were up 5 or 6 points, holding onto him would make sense. He's losing right now, though. How on earth do people think he's going to make up ground by taking the occasional interview, praying he doesn't fuck everything up, and then hobbling on to the next one a few weeks later?

This

[Bozo_Casanova 25534]

 

14 minutes ago, Vegas64 said:

I mean. The fate of the democracy hangs in the balance, I'm sure ABC powers that be knows this.

So your hope here is that ABC can help the president’s handlers gaslight the voting public into believing that Joe Biden can still not only win this race but is able to do the job for the next 4 years? 
Listen man if you want to be told not to believe your lyin’ eyes, just go the next step and vote for Donald Trump. You’re already helping him get elected by insisting that Biden is still viable in this race.

Edited July 5 by Bozo_Casanova

[Dnaguy 11543]

7 minutes ago, Captain Obvious said:

Bracing for the worst-case scenario of Biden holding it together in this interview, staying the candidate, holding it together until September/October, then having another debate-like episode and there's literally no time to to do damage control or get someone else.

[mdmost 42182]

[WhatTheBuck 28574]

1 hour ago, safe sex said:

I think she's a cop, but I'll still vote for her if she's at the top of the ticket; anything to keep from being a refugee (tho I'm aiming to be out of the country on Jan 20th, just in case)

Seems fitting since her opponent is a criminal. 

[WhatTheBuck 28574]

53 minutes ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

Fairly certain it's not live but was/is being conducted today.

Critics will say that it's edited and/or George is protecting Biden. However I don't think tonight is about critics or Trump voters. Biden needs to win over the Democrat party.

The what party?

[DixonHur 10833]

2 minutes ago, Pancho said:

Obama, Clinton, and trunp (i think trunp) were all losing at this point in the race as well. 

That's a little misleading...

Clinton was a virtual unknown running against an incumbent President and was fighting Perot for votes.  Once Perot dropped out, and voters got to know Clinton, he surged. 

Obama was up about 6 points at this point, and he surged after his DNC speech in late August.  Maybe that happens with Biden, but I wouldn't bet on it.

[Js1 82451]

24 minutes ago, Vegas64 said:

I'm sure ABC powers that be knows th

Oh I’m sure they see that and not the massive amount of $$$$$$ from a Trump presidency on their ratings 

[Pancho 41879]

Obama absolutely was losing to Romney in June of 2012

[DixonHur 10833]

1 minute ago, Js1 said:

Oh I’m sure they see that and not the massive amount of $$$$$$ from a Trump presidency on their ratings 

Unless Trump shuts them down.

[Dahobbs 17098]

1 hour ago, Loch Ness Monster said:

Literally anyone competent would win this election fairly easily. Any time Biden steps out now he loses his train of thought smh.

Both of those statements are false. I'm shocked that people still underestimate Trump as a candidate and apparently overestimate the American people.