2024 Presidential Election Thread - Let's keep the party going.

[Pato del Muerto 52,035]

19 minutes ago, SimonBolivar said:

They should really lean on #20. That seems like a winning play to me.

Wonder what metric they plan to use. Because dow jones consistently hitting record levels isn’t producing much unity. 

[Duane Moore 5,236]

Seems pretty clear which way the wind is blowing on the Hill:

 

[Schulz2.0 28,626]

Must be nice for some people to live in an idealistic world while the rest of us are forced to live in reality.

[SimonBolivar 10,673]

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Katie Rogers
July 8, 2024, 3:49 p.m. ET44 minutes ago
44 minutes ago
Katie RogersReporting from the trail with Jill Biden

I talked to some voters at Jill Biden’s Tampa event. Madison Janner, 20, who lives in St. Petersburg, Fla., said that she was not sure that she would vote for President Biden given the aftermath of the debate.

“Honestly that’s part of the reason I came here,” she said. “I do feel like I need some reassurance right now. I’m a registered Democrat, and I personally thought I was going to vote for Biden, but I don’t know what to think at this point.”

She added, “What would reassure me is seeing our president perform and not someone coming out for him.”

 

From the NYT

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57 minutes ago, tx 3 putt said:

Free ad ….

 

 

41 minutes ago, tx 3 putt said:

Why only Latinos ?

 

Are there more to these clips, because I watched both and never heard the words Medicare, social security, Project 2025 or Latinos?

[Schulz2.0 28,626]

8 minutes ago, Don Johnson said:

 

Are there more to these clips, because I watched both and never heard the words Medicare, social security, Project 2025 or Latinos?

"They empty their jails in Central America"

Edited July 8 by Schulz2.0

[babysdaddy 2,708]

3 hours ago, Pam Cummings said:

This is, of course, fucking stupid. If any of this was true you and all of your little republican friends would line up behind and love Biden, because you would be gleeful to know you can beat him. But you can't beat him so your only move is to troll and lie.

 

If Biden truly was inept you'd want him on the ballot. You wouldn't be trying to gaslight everyone into replacing him before he can beat trump.

[Nicole44 21,954]

32 minutes ago, Willfully Horn said:

Took away my father’s keys. Alzheimer’s. Worst day of my life.

It’s terrible. I lost my aunt to early onset vascular dementia (genetic) last year and my grandmother to a separate kind of dementia in 2018. I’m not suggesting the President has either type of dementia. But at some point we will all have to have this conversation with a loved one. It’s heartbreaking. On a positive note they have shown with the results of a 5 year study which will be released later this summer that exercise, eating a largely plant based diet, doing cognitive exercises and being social with loved ones has shown better results in 40% of the participants (that were in that study) and may help decrease the acceleration of the disease. Which was heartening to hear. I watched Dr Sanjay Gupta’s special last night. That radical lifestyle change works better than any meds available so there is a small glimmer of hope for some patients.

i think TPTB (elite or not-the powers that be) will yank Biden off the stage. The info keeps dribbling out. The WH presser today with KJP was largely contentious regarding exactly how many times the particular Parkinson/neurology specialist has come to the White House and did he see Biden all those times even if signed into to see two other people (one is the WH physician.) the most contentious exchange happened between KJP and a CBS reporter. 
 

if he does not step off the stage gracefully I fear he will be thrown off. If it is shown that a disease has been covered up (particularly from the delegates who voted for him) it will be disastrous. TPTB play hard ball. If he won’t exit gracefully they will destroy him to ensure that Trump doesn’t win and in their view destroy the country. Shitshow.

 

It’s depressing. No one wants to see this. It’s a moment without hope. For Joe. Jmo. 

[That Guy 950]

2 minutes ago, Nicole44 said:

exercise, eating a largely plant based diet, doing cognitive exercises and being social with loved ones

Well fuck.

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1 hour ago, immamac said:

How will they replace lifetime appointed justices? 

Joe Biden can place an order that he be given personal control of an armed drone, take out whatever SCOTUS justices he sees fit, and it's legal now.

[Js1 82,948]

And yet…

 

[Underdog 28,117]

13 minutes ago, Nicole44 said:

It’s terrible. I lost my aunt to early onset vascular dementia (genetic) last year and my grandmother to a separate kind of dementia in 2018. I’m not suggesting the President has either type of dementia. But at some point we will all have to have this conversation with a loved one. It’s heartbreaking. On a positive note they have shown with the results of a 5 year study which will be released later this summer that exercise, eating a largely plant based diet, doing cognitive exercises and being social with loved ones has shown better results in 40% of the participants (that were in that study) and may help decrease the acceleration of the disease. Which was heartening to hear. I watched Dr Sanjay Gupta’s special last night. That radical lifestyle change works better than any meds available so there is a small glimmer of hope for some patients.

i think TPTB (elite or not-the powers that be) will yank Biden off the stage. The info keeps dribbling out. The WH presser today with KJP was largely contentious regarding exactly how many times the particular Parkinson/neurology specialist has come to the White House and did he see Biden all those times even if signed into to see two other people (one is the WH physician.) the most contentious exchange happened between KJP and a CBS reporter. 
 

if he does not step off the stage gracefully I fear he will be thrown off. If it is shown that a disease has been covered up (particularly from the delegates who voted for him) it will be disastrous. TPTB play hard ball. If he won’t exit gracefully they will destroy him to ensure that Trump doesn’t win and in their view destroy the country. Shitshow.

 

It’s depressing. No one wants to see this. It’s a moment without hope. For Joe. Jmo. 

Staying off Rainey St. increases those odds even more. 

[chainsaw 9,573]

37 minutes ago, Duane Moore said:

Seems pretty clear which way the wind is blowing on the Hill:

 

32 Dems? That's all he could muster in one week?

Trump could get over 200 house members by 3. With nail polish.

[David Dennison 17,754]

4 minutes ago, Js1 said:

And yet…

 

Trump will take credit for it.

And he'll get away with it.

[David Dennison 17,754]

17 minutes ago, Nicole44 said:

exercise, eating a largely plant based diet, doing cognitive exercises and being social with loved ones

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32 minutes ago, Schulz2.0 said:

Must be nice for some people to live in an idealistic world while the rest of us are forced to live in reality.

There is no panacea.  No utopia. No dystopia.  No 1984.  No idealistic world.  No reality.  
 

The tower enacted punitive rules on pro-Palestinian rallies last week only to try to encourage them now next when Biden is town on BoR orders.  
 

We finally get literate and have open access to all the information of humanity.  And we’re just spinning in circles, surrounded by people chanting how stupid they are.  
 

We will not be saved by anyone.  Something has to turn us off and turn on again.  85 years of relative global peace is about to up in smoke.  See y’all on the dark side of the moon. 
 

 

[David Dennison 17,754]

3 minutes ago, YGIFS said:

We finally get literate and have open access to all the information of humanity.  And we’re just spinning in circles, surrounded by people chanting how stupid they are.  

It's amazing how skittish animals can be when they know they're going to die.

[Nicole44 21,954]

12 minutes ago, Underdog said:

Staying off Rainey St. increases those odds even more. 

No sport in drugging and drowning elderly or dementia/Alzheimer’s patients. Luring some out of town nondescript random guy away from his group takes skill. Just sayin’
 

[Bateshorn 9,542]

12 minutes ago, chainsaw said:

32 Dems? That's all he could muster in one week?

Trump could get over 200 house members by 3. With nail polish.

And a hawk tuah.

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[Bozo_Casanova 25,822]

7 hours ago, Pam Cummings said:

I refuse to be a part of any political discourse that holds one candidate to a different standard than the other. I refuse to sit by and watch people talk about Biden being unfit while the alternative candidate is a raving lunatic. I refuse to watch or consume any of this concern trolling that is happening in the media, who is only concerned with dividing so that they can make more money for their shareholders.

Pardon me, but your “refusal” implies that you are privileged enough to escape the consequences should Trump win.  
Must be nice!

[Texaus 365]

A whole lot of noise. Excepting a resignation, is there a path forward that does not have Biden as nominee? We’re fucked.

[BehoId, The Underminer! 11,508]

dooming a little more: this feels like a blood in the water situation where the average subhuman trump voter that was demoralized before becomes more energetic and makes sure they can get out and vote because they want to be a part of the big overthrow.

[Nicole44 21,954]

6 minutes ago, Texaus said:

A whole lot of noise. Excepting a resignation, is there a path forward that does not have Biden as nominee? We’re fucked.

The delegates could change their vote. Delegates are “supposed” to honor the voters in their states. Here’s the language in the Democratic party rules for the 2024 convention: “All delegates to the National Convention pledged to a presidential candidate shall in all good conscience reflect the sentiments of those who elected them.”

if for instance it is learned that Biden has Parkinson’s or other type of neurological condition and withheld that from voters when he decided to run and was getting delegates, I would think that would release the delegates’ from voting for Biden. If they went to their voters and said if you knew X then would you have voted for him? 
it does appear to be trending in the direction many want in an open primary. But he could step aside. He may not. But the 3,949 pledged delegates and the some $220,000,000 are his/KH’s. That’s my understanding.

[Hugo Stiglitz 23,247]

I like how Biden is basically saying “the voters are responsible for not addressing my cognitive decline issues in time, which I strategically concealed from them by not participating in a primary or primary debates.  The voters have decided, this is a democracy.” 

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[Goredho 17,164]

57 minutes ago, Nicole44 said:

No sport in drugging and drowning elderly or dementia/Alzheimer’s patients. Luring some out of town nondescript random guy away from his group takes skill. Just sayin’
 

So what I am reading is that all of our Biden is too old issues could be solved if one of us can convince him to have a drink on Rainey street.

[Nicole44 21,954]

8 minutes ago, Goredho said:

So what I am reading is that all of our Biden is too old issues could be solved if one of us can convince him to have a drink on Rainey street.

 

Edited July 8 by Nicole44

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47 minutes ago, Nicole44 said:

The delegates could change their vote. Delegates are “supposed” to honor the voters in their states. Here’s the language in the Democratic party rules for the 2024 convention: “All delegates to the National Convention pledged to a presidential candidate shall in all good conscience reflect the sentiments of those who elected them.”

if for instance it is learned that Biden has Parkinson’s or other type of neurological condition and withheld that from voters when he decided to run and was getting delegates, I would think that would release the delegates’ from voting for Biden. If they went to their voters and said if you knew X then would you have voted for him? 
it does appear to be trending in the direction many want in an open primary. But he could step aside. He may not. But the 3,949 pledged delegates and the some $220,000,000 are his/KH’s. That’s my understanding.

If he has Parkinson’s then they would be justified in doing that.

[Biff Tannen 45,013]

So did we figure this out yet or what?

[Nicole44 21,954]

1 minute ago, Aqua Buddha said:

If he has Parkinson’s then they would be justified in doing that.

Thats my understanding of the Democrat bylaws for convention. But it’s like never fucking happened so….uncharted waters. 
 

speaking of reporters we need more reporting like this man. He is amazing! 

 

[Duane Moore 5,236]

First Schumer and now Jeffries. So much for congressional leadership applying pressure on Biden to step down. Unless he swallows his tongue at his “big boy” press conference on Thursday, I think we have our Democratic Party nominee. 
 

 

Edited July 9 by Duane Moore

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21 minutes ago, Biff Tannen said:

So did we figure this out yet or what?

Yeah, we're getting a red wave in November.

In a year where the other party is running a narcissistic criminal. Very cool

[AustinHorn 57]

The delegates at the Convention will take care of this. 

[Sawbonz 26,808]

9 hours ago, Pam Cummings said:

But I think the only way Trump wins is if there is a very public discussion about Biden being old and senile

You mean like what is going to happen every day on every channel until Election Day?

[DixonHur 10,837]

Just now, AustinHorn said:

The delegates at the Convention will take care of this. 

[Texaus 365]

17 minutes ago, Duane Moore said:

First Schumer and now Jeffries. So much for congressional leadership applying pressure on Biden to step down. Unless he swallows his tongue at his “big boy press” conference on Thursday, I think we have our Democratic Party nominee. 
 

 

“and the democratic ticket” A bit of a non sequitur there. Is he leaving himself an out or am I reaching?

[Sawbonz 26,808]

2 hours ago, David Dennison said:

Trump will take credit for it.

And he'll get away with it.

Would be nice if Joe would get on live national television and take credit for it

[Biff Tannen 45,013]

19 minutes ago, Loch Ness Monster said:

Yeah, we're getting a red wave in November.

In a year where the other party is running a narcissistic criminal. Very cool

I understand this is the DOOM thread, but if people will put away their pussies and get out and vote, we can win.  Biden, Harris, Whitmer, whomever.  If we don't, we have no one to blame but ourselves.  This isn't hard.

Tell your friends, tell your family, post it on the internet.  We aren't voting for the man (or woman).  We are voting against fascism.  Period.

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[DixonHur 10,837]

5 minutes ago, Biff Tannen said:

I understand this is the DOOM thread, but if people will put away their pussies and get out and vote, we can win.  Biden, Harris, Whitmer, whomever.  If we don't, we have no one to blame but ourselves.  This isn't hard.

Tell your friends, tell your family, post it on the internet.  We aren't voting for the man (or woman).  We are voting against fascism.  Period.

Point taken, but I honestly think a lot of people have reached the 6th Stage of Grief.... what I like to call the "fuck it" stage.

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[Nicole44 21,954]

7 minutes ago, Biff Tannen said:

I understand this is the DOOM thread, but if people will put away their pussies and get out and vote, we can win.  Biden, Harris, Whitmer, whomever.  If we don't, we have no one to blame but ourselves.  This isn't hard.

Tell your friends, tell your family, post it on the internet.  We aren't voting for the man (or woman).  We are voting against fascism.  Period.

Truth. Vote. Vote early. Election Day should be a federal holiday. I don’t know though if I’ve ever seen a campaign despite people saying they’d vote for a dead skunk over Trump, that’s ever worked where the party is saying, “it doesn’t matter who is at the top of the ticket it’s a vote against X.” It would be like committing to a church where you like the building and the congregation and everything about it but not know who the preacher is going to be or be like. Sure you want to fight Satan and your only choices are stay at home, go hang with the devil or go to this one church. I don’t know that it will draw in enough independents to beat Trump. He’s not bringing in many new voters and likely won’t after the convention but Biden is dropping voters. And the fear is people will sit on their hands. Maybe they won’t maybe the Repub convention will scare them. It’s not easy to predict bc this shit has never happened before, 

[immamac 41,615]

1 minute ago, DixonHur said:

Point taken, but I honestly think a lot of people have reached the 6th Stage of Grief.... what I like to call the "fuck it" stage.

Everyone is just tired of everything being a fucking existential threat since covid. It's a beating. We are staring down the barrel of a liquidity crisis, a commercial real estate crisis, a public debt crisis, a corporate debt crisis, stubborn inflation, creeping unemployment, an obesity epidemic, a constitutional crisis everything is a fucking confusing and fucked up mess. 

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2 minutes ago, cactusflinthead said:

 

2024 Democratic Party

[immamac 41,615]

What we need is for Biden to become a little less presidential and let him be the unpolished joe he is behind closed doors. His call where he calls out the Democrat elite in what seems like a small setting where he can speak without being careful was fucking lit. 

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Now I'm more depressed.

[Captainant 26,902]

3 minutes ago, immamac said:

Everyone is just tired of everything being a fucking existential threat since covid. It's a beating. We are staring down the barrel of a liquidity crisis, a commercial real estate crisis, a public debt crisis, a corporate debt crisis, stubborn inflation, creeping unemployment, an obesity epidemic, a constitutional crisis everything is a fucking confusing and fucked up mess. 

I mean, all that shit has been brewing for a decade plus at this point. It's the chickens coming home to fuckin roost after the economic coke bender that we've been on of near zero interest and incredible growth in wealth inequality 

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18 minutes ago, immamac said:

Everyone is just tired of everything being a fucking existential threat since covid. It's a beating. We are staring down the barrel of a liquidity crisis, a commercial real estate crisis, a public debt crisis, a corporate debt crisis, stubborn inflation, creeping unemployment, an obesity epidemic, a constitutional crisis everything is a fucking confusing and fucked up mess. 

And it still doesn't come close to the mess that was the '60s.

 

Edited July 9 by David Dennison

[immamac 41,615]

Just now, David Dennison said:

And it still doesn't come close to the mess that was the '60s.

 

Yeah the 1860s were a pretty tumultuous time.