2024 Presidential Election Thread - Let's keep the party going.

[chainsaw 9573]

I don't care if he's impaired. If he wins, he can govern from bed. Just beat trump and all will be forgiven

[NAVY 6667]

[Js1 82948]

 

[Bullneck 18691]

Rolling out his platform and first 100 days.

[David Dennison 17754]

7 minutes ago, immamac said:

Is dark Brandon coming back? 

[hobbes2702 12516]

Joe doing his best FDR impression. Roll his ass out there if you have to.

[jimmyjazz 45162]

3 minutes ago, Js1 said:

He’s an independent so he’s smarter and better looking and more successful than us stupid party folk

(Ironically, I've never been a member of any political party.  I do tend to vote Dem for Federal elections way more than I don't though, so I guess I count.)

[Sawbonz 26808]

2 hours ago, hobbes2702 said:

My disdain is for people who try to tell a party that they don’t support or regularly vote for who they should nominate

Do you think Biden gave the American public (or even the leaders of the Democratic Party an honest representation of his condition leading up to the first primary?

 

Because I absolutely do not

[David Dennison 17754]

5 minutes ago, Sawbonz said:

Do you think Biden gave the American public (or even the leaders of the Democratic Party an honest representation of his condition leading up to the first primary?

 

Because I absolutely do not

Honestly, I don't expect them to.

[Art Vandelay 1705]

Joy Reid is right - Biden is a completely different dude when he has a crowd. We need to keep seeing that Joe, and then he needs to knock it out of the park at the DNC.

[lemonlime 5485]

By the time I voted in the primary, Biden was unopposed.   To the extent there were even others running against him, and it sounds like there were, that was only in the earlier states.  What I'm getting from this thread is that I'm supposed to be fine with what a few voters in a few states decided six months ago.  

[David Dennison 17754]

2 minutes ago, lemonlime said:

By the time I voted in the primary, Biden was unopposed.   To the extent there were even others running against him, and it sounds like there were, that was only in the earlier states.  What I'm getting from this thread is that I'm supposed to be fine with what a few voters in a few states decided six months ago.  

Maybe have all primaries on the same day?

[Js1 82948]

2 minutes ago, David Dennison said:

Maybe have all primaries on the same day?

Regional. 10 states, 5 days, convention the month after the final primary. Pacific territories with the west coast one, Caribbean territories with the Southern one, Americans Abroad with the DC one.

We don’t need a 6 month nominating process. It’s bad enough our election cycles are typically 13+ months. 

Edited July 13 by Js1

[Sawbonz 26808]

44 minutes ago, David Dennison said:

some of us also voted for the dude older than Joe Biden

[hobbes2702 12516]

14 minutes ago, Sawbonz said:

Do you think Biden gave the American public (or even the leaders of the Democratic Party an honest representation of his condition leading up to the first primary?

 

Because I absolutely do not

What do you think his condition is? You are the expert here. 
I think he’s old. I’ve thought he was old. Nothing I’ve seen since 2012 has made me think he wasn’t old.

[hobbes2702 12516]

8 minutes ago, lemonlime said:

By the time I voted in the primary, Biden was unopposed.   To the extent there were even others running against him, and it sounds like there were, that was only in the earlier states.  What I'm getting from this thread is that I'm supposed to be fine with what a few voters in a few states decided six months ago.  

So who would you have voted for if it was an open primary?

[Sawbonz 26808]

9 minutes ago, Art Vandelay said:

Joy Reid is right - Biden is a completely different dude when he has a crowd. We need to keep seeing that Joe, and then he needs to knock it out of the park at the DNC.

Whatever they’ve got him jacked up on keep giving it until he’s dead or in the winners circle 

[YChang 3392]

2 minutes ago, Sawbonz said:

Whatever they’ve got him jacked up on keep giving it until he’s dead or in the winners circle 

Now I just have an image of Biden like Bane from batman... 

[Sawbonz 26808]

1 minute ago, hobbes2702 said:

What do you think his condition is? You are the expert here. 
I think he’s old. I’ve thought he was old. Nothing I’ve seen since 2012 has made me think he wasn’t old.

He’s more than old. There’s a reason they want him out of the public eye most nights by 8 pm. Google sundowning

[Texas Flood 1338]

6 minutes ago, hobbes2702 said:

What do you think his condition is? You are the expert here. 
I think he’s old. I’ve thought he was old. Nothing I’ve seen since 2012 has made me think he wasn’t old.

The emperor still has clothes?

[hobbes2702 12516]

1 minute ago, Sawbonz said:

He’s more than old. There’s a reason they want him out of the public eye most nights by 8 pm. Google sundowning

So you think he has dementia? You know more than I do here.

Seems like an old guy to me. He also seems capable of winning.

[gmr548 16289]

45 minutes ago, Rimbo said:

https://www.threads.net/@tristansnell/post/C9Vr56ppstE/?xmt=AQGz4IIhDR2cFdXuYkiNmUz1xbuWmASGOxtZYTzFat-Yeg

 

Their forecast is strongly weighted by fundamentals like economic data, historical partisan lean, etc. The median of their forecast is a full four percentage points to the left of their own polling average. As we get closer to election day that weight will wain, and if the polling remains a stable but narrow Trump lead as it has for the entirely of this year, Trump will be a decisive favorite.

I suppose we'll see but I think it's clear based on how people are feeling on the economy that Biden is not going to get the same kind of "fundamentals" boost that an incumbent in his position would traditionally enjoy with this economic data.

10 minutes ago, lemonlime said:

By the time I voted in the primary, Biden was unopposed.   To the extent there were even others running against him, and it sounds like there were, that was only in the earlier states.  What I'm getting from this thread is that I'm supposed to be fine with what a few voters in a few states decided six months ago.  

I fucking loathe the "undemocratic" argument, it's disingenuous and frankly Trumpian for Biden and his camp to trot it out there. Primaries are not real elections. Like 10% of the electorate participates and it's the most ideological and committed partisans. Parties are also private organizations. Ain't shit about them in the constitution. They can do what they want to select their candidates. Were presidents before Nixon not democratically elected? Because primaries have only been in any binding in the past 50 years. And of course, as this post mentions, a primary with an incumbent president is not a serious contest.

[tx 3 putt 75222]

 

official act ?

[Sawbonz 26808]

9 minutes ago, hobbes2702 said:

So you think he has dementia

Yes

[tx 3 putt 75222]

Hell yes !!!!

President Biden lays out his second term agenda:

—Restore Roe v. Wade
—Sign John Lewis Voting Rights Act
—Expand Social Security and Medicare
—End all medical debt
—Raise the minimum wage
—Pass the PRO Act for workers
—Ban assault weapons
—Lead the world on clean energy
—Permanent child tax credit
—$35 insulin cap for all
—Build more housing
—Invest in child care and elder care

[Js1 82948]

1 hour ago, Bullneck said:

Biden recounting Trumps sins.  Including bankrupting a casino.  Wow.  The best 10 minutes in TV.

That’s gonna pull Trump out of hiding. He can’t let that all go

[hobbes2702 12516]

31 minutes ago, Sawbonz said:

Yes

Then put him to bed early. Still seems to me to have the best chance to win. There’s no option for anyone other than him or Kamala. I think she would do worse than he would in the rust belt.

[Beantown Express 2.0 6509]

22 minutes ago, tx 3 putt said:

Hell yes !!!!

President Biden lays out his second term agenda:

—Restore Roe v. Wade
—Sign John Lewis Voting Rights Act
—Expand Social Security and Medicare
—End all medical debt
—Raise the minimum wage
—Pass the PRO Act for workers
—Ban assault weapons
—Lead the world on clean energy
—Permanent child tax credit
—$35 insulin cap for all
—Build more housing
—Invest in child care and elder care

Yea, but the other side wants to have the biggest deportations ever in the history of the country so that's more important to most people than what Biden wants to do.  At least Fox News is telling them that is what should be most important to them.  You know, since the illegals are coming in hordes and raping and murdering everybody. 

[Sawbonz 26808]

9 minutes ago, hobbes2702 said:

Then put him to bed early. Still seems to me to have the best chance to win. There’s no option for anyone other than him or Kamala. I think she would do worse than he would in the rust belt.

At this point, yes. A year and a half ago, I don’t believe that to be true.

[DixonHur 10837]

1 hour ago, jimmyjazz said:

I disagree that he is clearly "impaired" and I completely disagree with your numbers.  So, where does that put us?  Is it OK to disagree or are you fucking omnipotent?  

Yup.  Unlike folks like @Js1 and @hobbes2702, I welcome disagreement and honest debate.

I guess we'll find out who's right on election day.

[Js1 82948]

It’s a shame he didn’t just step down after midterms. Kamala gets a full year for voters to decide if they like her and, if they don’t, then they can hold a Dem primary. 

Now we can hope he does that in 2026

[hobbes2702 12516]

2 minutes ago, DixonHur said:

Yup.  Unlike folks like @Js1 and @hobbes2702, I welcome disagreement and honest debate.

I guess we'll find out who's right on election day.

[Nicole44 21954]

Everyone on both sides talking about the strong bench they have. Sports analogy. 
 

but in slang, bench means this:

Otherwise known as bread-crumbing, this is when someone you've been dating stops agreeing to meet in person, but continues to contact you over message and social media. “These people are essentially keeping you on the bench while they play out their other options

[DixonHur 10837]

1 minute ago, hobbes2702 said:

Not sure I know what this means other than you might be 12.  

Someday perhaps you'll form a reasoned thought.  Until, then I'll continue to laugh at you.

[cabowabo 4389]

1 hour ago, Art Vandelay said:

Joy Reid is right - Biden is a completely different dude when he has a crowd. We need to keep seeing that Joe, and then he needs to knock it out of the park at the DNC.

[Bullneck 18691]

4 minutes ago, Nicole44 said:

Everyone on both sides talking about the strong bench they have. Sports analogy. 
 

but in slang, bench means this:

Otherwise known as bread-crumbing, this is when someone you've been dating stops agreeing to meet in person, but continues to contact you over message and social media. “These people are essentially keeping you on the bench while they play out their other options

That's not true - the Rs don't have a strong bench at all.  They do have a lot of weirdos who all believe the same things.  

1 minute ago, cabowabo said:

Wow, you did something.  A thing is what you did.  

If you're boy Trump gets elected in about three years you'll wonder what happened to your life's work and net worth.  But keep posting those memes!!!!!!!

Edited July 13 by Bullneck

[hobbes2702 12516]

3 minutes ago, DixonHur said:

Not sure I know what this means other than you might be 12.  

Someday perhaps you'll form a reasoned thought.  Until, then I'll continue to laugh at you.

Sorry your feelings got hurt.

[cabowabo 4389]

4 minutes ago, Bullneck said:

That's not true - the Rs don't have a strong bench at all.  They do have a lot of weirdos who all believe the same things.  

Wow, you did something.  A thing is what you did.  

If you're boy Trump gets elected in about three years you'll wonder what happened to your life's work and net worth.  But keep posting those memes!!!!!!!

[DixonHur 10837]

1 minute ago, hobbes2702 said:

Sorry your feelings got hurt.

Lol, I'm actually quite happy, and even offered to buy you, or anyone else a drink tonight.

I can't support people who turn down free drinks.

[StassneyHorn 6429]

Independent thoughts

 

[Redneck Mutha 7856]

1 hour ago, Sawbonz said:

Whatever they’ve got him jacked up on keep giving it until he’s dead or in the winners circle 

 

[Dahobbs 17180]

36 minutes ago, DixonHur said:

Yup.  Unlike folks like @Js1 and @hobbes2702, I welcome disagreement and honest debate.

I guess we'll find out who's right on election day.

Great. When are you going to start debating honestly? 

[jimmyjazz 45162]

1 hour ago, Sawbonz said:

Yes

You more than most should know you shouldn't diagnose that from afar, especially given the fact that it isn't your area of expertise.

[DixonHur 10837]

1 minute ago, Dahobbs said:

Great. When are you going to start debating honestly? 

How am I not?  Provide examples, not sound bites.

Ask a question and I'll give you an honest answer.  Might not be the answer you want, but it will be honest.

[Incredulity 11160]

1 hour ago, Texas Flood said:

The emperor still has clothes?

Beautiful clothes, gorgeous.

His only hope is avoiding Q&A.  Not sure they can pull that off.  
 

Q&A vs teleprompter is starkly different.

[Dahobbs 17180]

2 minutes ago, DixonHur said:

How am I not?  Provide examples, not sound bites.

Ask a question and I'll give you an honest answer.  Might not be the answer you want, but it will be honest.

Well, for instance by suggesting that either @Js1 or @hobbes2702 aren't interest in honest debate. That's very dishonest as nothing from their posts suggest that. They disagree with you and apparently you don't like that. You're only willing to consider arguments that accept your assumptions and argumentive framework. That's not seeking honest debate. You're looking for affirmation and a pat on the head, not debate. 

[hobbes2702 12516]

4 minutes ago, Incredulity said:

Beautiful clothes, gorgeous.

His only hope is avoiding Q&A.  Not sure they can pull that off.  
 

Q&A vs teleprompter is starkly different.

No it isn’t. He had a q&a yesterday and did perfectly fine.

[tx 3 putt 75222]

All of this, keep poking Trump where it hurts him. He’ll implode  …..

 

[Sawbonz 26808]

12 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

You more than most should know you shouldn't diagnose that from afar, especially given the fact that it isn't your area of expertise.

I’m not diagnosing him. I’m giving my opinion. Take it for what it’s worth. Time will tell.

[DixonHur 10837]

5 minutes ago, Dahobbs said:

Well, for instance by suggesting that either @Js1 or @hobbes2702 aren't interest in honest debate. That's very dishonest as nothing from their posts suggest that. They disagree with you and apparently you don't like that. You're only willing to consider arguments that accept your assumptions and argumentive framework. That's not seeking honest debate. You're looking for affirmation and a pat on the head, not debate. 

Really?  Ok.  Perhaps you could synthesize there arguments for me, because they mostly sound like ad hominem attacks.  

However, I'd be happy to respond to your interpretation.