2024 Presidential Election Thread - Let's keep the party going.

[Underdog 28118]

2 minutes ago, Red Five said:

"Why do 40 of your former cabinet members think you are unfit for office?"

 

If there is a debate, Kamala should read off every quote from those who said it. 

[DixonHur 10837]

1 minute ago, Underdog said:

If there is a debate, Kamala should read off every quote from those who said it. 

Dems should have billboards with the quotes in every battleground state.

[Underdog 28118]

^ brilliant. 

[Pancho 42225]

3 hours ago, Pancho said:

Social media might will Andy Beshear to the VP slot. This is who the people want, and Kamala is For the People. 

Was just on MSNBC that Beshear is now “Under Consideration” for VP per a campaign source.

[Beantown Express 2.0 6509]

34 minutes ago, mdmost said:

Trump might be shocked to know that Lincoln actually put people who hated him and disagreed with him on his cabinet. 

“Yeah, well that Lincoln guy was a loser.  He took the bullet in his head where someone great like me with my cat like ninja reflexes avoided the assassins bullet.  Plus he makes a shitty car, except for the Continental.  That was a beauty with the big tire on the trunk”.    -Trump

[Bateshorn 9542]

1 hour ago, Js1 said:

The FEC is still figuring out complaints from 2016 lol

By the time this gets deadlocked at the FEC and works its way through the courts, we are going to be game planning 2032 election. 

[C-Man 26617]

Is this forreals?

[bolverk 29035]

Just now, Pancho said:

Was just on MSNBC that Beshear is now “Under Consideration” for VP per a campaign source.

ABC said a "source" told them Shapiro and Kelly were the top two.

Conclusion: We don't know shit.

Personally, I'm perfectly fine with any of them. They all have pros/cons, and Kamala's pick will at least give us a little insight into her way of thinking.

[Pancho 42225]

[DixonHur 10837]

1 minute ago, Pancho said:

Was just on MSNBC that Beshear is now “Under Consideration” for VP per a campaign source.

I voted for him when he ran for Governor of Kentucky in 2019 and would happily vote for him again as the VP candidate.  

 

[Js1 82948]

https://www.semafor.com/article/07/23/2024/the-upside-for-harris-is-huge-democratic-poll-finds-kamala-needs-to-define-her-brand-quickly
 

“Voters have a very limited perception of Harris: liberal, prosecutor,” said Blueprint lead pollster Evan Roth Smith, who surveyed 1537 registered voters on July 21 and 22. “Their concerns are largely limited to standard concerns over being left-leaning generally, and some specific immigration concerns, all of which can be quickly assuaged by proactive early signaling.”

The polling, shared first with Semafor, found Harris starting the general election with some big strengths on social issues. Asked what issue they associated with Harris, 52% said “abortion and birth control,” a sign that the vice president’s years-long campaigning against the Dobbs decision had sunk in

Harris was weaker on public safety issues, with 32% of voters citing “crime” and 29% citing “immigration and the border” when asked for an association. Fifty percent of independents worried that Harris would let migrants cross the border illegally. Latino voters, narrowly, trusted Trump more than Harris on immigration, continuing a pattern that showed up in post-2021 polling that tested President Biden in a rematch with Trump.

Republicans have already promised to focus on those issues as they work to define Harris. But Blueprint found an opening for the vice president on economic issues. Harris and Trump were tied, 50-50, when voters were asked which candidate would do a better job “bringing down prices” on goods and services.

“The upside for Harris is huge: voters do not hold her accountable for Biden’s perceived failures on inflation, and she can run hard on economic messaging,” said Roth Smith.

[Biff Tannen 45013]

2 minutes ago, DixonHur said:

I voted for him when he ran for Governor of Kentucky in 2019 and would happily vote for him again as the VP candidate.  

 

Are you in Kentucky?

[shakahorn 1607]

1 hour ago, Pancho said:

South Asian women have entered the chat 

Will Usha join the call?

[Fudge Nuggets 18899]

5 minutes ago, C-Man said:

Is this forreals?
 

If dotard loss any of Nimratra’s voters and any of rocketboi’s cult, he’s turbo fucked.  I know we always say Rs will always fall back in line and pull the lever no matter what, but I don’t think those Haley supporters are fucking around.

[Fudge Nuggets 18899]

1 minute ago, shakahorn said:

Will Usha join the call?

Or Nikki.

[shakahorn 1607]

1 minute ago, Fudge Nuggets said:

Or Nikki.

Who?

[SizzleChest 8092]

55 minutes ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

Elmo backs out of $45 million per month pledge

https://fortune.com/2024/07/23/elon-musk-backs-down-from-45-million-a-month-pledge-to-trump-says-he-doesnt-subscribe-to-cult-of-personality/

 

lol bitch 

 

[PenelopeWitherspoon 18402]

So the White Women for Harris call is Thursday night at 8:30 pm ET. We have tickets for Oh, Mary! at the same time. I will get the two white women and the one gay white man I am attending with to donate in lieu of our attendance. All my donations will be $47.

[C-Man 26617]

1 hour ago, shakahorn said:

Wow so Mr. Alpha Male plays from the ladies tees?

Lemme guess, Trump wanted to play from the tips but Dechambeau insisted on playing from the ladies tees.

My bet is Trump plays from the closest "men's" tees at his courses, which is perfectly normal for a morbidly obese man of his age. No real shame in that. But club champions are hitting drives further than 190 yards. Trump pulled an 8-iron for a 110-yard hole.

 

13 minutes ago, bolverk said:

ABC said a "source" told them Shapiro and Kelly were the top two.

Conclusion: We don't know shit.

Personally, I'm perfectly fine with any of them. They all have pros/cons, and Kamala's pick will at least give us a little insight into her way of thinking.

Man, this is just like following a coaching search! Night crew, assemble!

[DixonHur 10837]

10 minutes ago, Biff Tannen said:

Are you in Kentucky?

No, I'm in Austin, but I lived in KY at the time.

[Hefeweizen 5221]

Regarding Elmo, did anyone actually think he’d follow through?  So he did this, got pantsed by Newsom, and then backed down anyway.  What a loser.

[Underdog 28118]

3 minutes ago, C-Man said:

My bet is Trump plays from the closest "men's" tees at his courses, which is perfectly normal for a morbidly obese man of his age. No real shame in that. But club champions are hitting drives further than 190 yards. Trump pulled an 8-iron for a 110-yard hole.

 

Man, this is just like following a coaching search! Night crew, assemble!

[Pescado_Rojo 19235]

1 minute ago, Hefeweizen said:

Regarding Elmo, did anyone actually think he’d follow through?  So he did this, got pantsed by Newsom, and then backed down anyway.  What a loser.

Just like he tried to back out of buying twitter until they sued him

[The Dog 43080]

[Hefeweizen 5221]

2 minutes ago, Pescado_Rojo said:

Just like he tried to back out of buying twitter until they sued him

Or calling people pedo when they ignore his stupid advice.  He’s just a worthless sack of shit who got lucky with his investments.

[Fudge Nuggets 18899]

2 minutes ago, Pescado_Rojo said:

Just like he tried to back out of buying twitter until they sued him

Their earnings call was apparently a disaster and the stock is down 8% this evening.  He probably couldn't afford the "donation" any more.

[t_eight 146]

Looking back at Dave Chappelle's Clayton Bigby skit, it feels like Dave had a time machine - too many red hats and Trump supporters in a skit that aired in 20 years ago...white people and hats.

 

[Bullneck 18691]

OK, this is old but so am I.

 

Edited July 24 by Bullneck

[WhatTheBuck 28604]

40 minutes ago, DixonHur said:

Has Trump ever called a man "nasty" or is that just reserved for women?

I can’t think of any examples. I can only recall him saying it about women, and women of color more often than not. That’s why it was such an easy prediction. 

[DixonHur 10837]

1 minute ago, WhatTheBuck said:

I can’t think of any examples. I can only recall him saying it about women, and women of color more often than not. That’s why it was such an easy prediction. 

I'm fully expecting him to say something along the lines of, "how can we trust her not to get us into a war during 'that time of the month'?"

[Pato del Muerto 52035]

8 minutes ago, Bullneck said:

OK, this is old but so am I.

 

The we did it to I did it rewrite is masterful. 

[chainsaw 9573]

34 minutes ago, C-Man said:

Is this forreals?
 

Elon the morning of Nov 6:
Hey guys I'm woke now! I was only doing a bit! And I actually loved my daughter the whole time

[Underdog 28118]

Guess trump won’t be taking care of Elon like he mentioned recently. 

[Francisco 2.0 31922]

17 minutes ago, Pescado_Rojo said:

Just like he tried to back out of buying twitter until they sued him

 

We can only hope that that Trump/RNC sues Elon to fulfull his pledge.

 

 

[WBT 20212]

34 minutes ago, Js1 said:

Harris and Trump were tied, 50-50, when voters were asked which candidate would do a better job “bringing down prices” on goods and services.

Lulz.  Trump would be such a disaster on inflation between fucking with the fed and his protectionist bullshit.  Of course Biden wasn't in any hurry to reverse anything.  Yay, populism!

[Js1 82948]

 

[Fudge Nuggets 18899]

24 minutes ago, PenelopeWitherspoon said:

So the White Women for Harris call is Thursday night at 8:30 pm ET. We have tickets for Oh, Mary! at the same time. I will get the two white women and the one gay white man I am attending with to donate in lieu of our attendance. All my donations will be $47.

C'mon Ms Moneybags, you can do better than that.

[Jive Turkey 12323]

 

[HOOKEM4 4914]

My YouTube algorithm is losing it's mind the last few days. Steady push of crazy ass repub conspiracy accounts, tucker drivel and drump bullshit. I will admit I watch a bunch of gun stuff, car stuff and farming channels among my stream of Longhorn and random video gaming stuff. Never seen it go this crazy, just random stuff I will neg from time to time.  I also noticed my kids youtube had some random shit poping up that was clearly drump promoters. Youtube kids. Pay attention to your kids people...

I haven't voted for red pill since GW first term (what a fucking dumbass). The algorithm is freaking out. 

[Dbeasy 14756]

2 hours ago, MrBig said:

My father in law is a Republican who watches Fox News but he’s not MAGA. He tells me Kamala seems like a fun person and it’s nice to see someone in politics who isn’t a grumpy asshole.

 

If he watches Fox he’s an idiot. The entire channel is nothing but propaganda on the level of what North Korea pumps out. The fact he doesn’t know that is frightening because I seem to recall your FIL is in some position of authority. 

[Chult86 299]

I don't post all that often, though don't mistake that for not enjoying this board's discourse, OUsucks/Texags point and laughs, and quality original content on a frequent basis.

I haven't felt this sort of enthusiasm about the future of the country in over eight years. Same for my wife. We've been on a road trip the last two days and as such have gotten to digest this with each other seeing the news, subsequent endorsements, and then today's speech.

Let me backtrack a few weeks... The despair really came to fruition the night of the debate. It wasn't THAT bad, it was the worst possible performance other than pissing yourself on stage. Watching it that night, my wife and I first shared feelings of shock. Again, it wasn't as bad as it had been rumored, it was somehow worse. We (and the entire country) knew that night that the only way Biden could win the election would be to get enough anti-Trump people to GOTV. However, that was going to be next to impossible given the level of enthusiasm with the campaign as soon as they walked off the stage that night. We realized that night that Trump had gone from likely longshot odds to win, to a position where even he probably couldn't screw up the next few months bad enough to lose.

Those feelings were soon replaced by frustration and anger. Anger at the DNC for forcing Biden to run again and not spending his term as a true transitional leader and prepare the next generation to lead. Let's be 100% honest: There is nothing about "what the people want" less than forcing two basically octogenarians onto us for the choice to lead the free world for the next four years. Two candidates who wouldn't live long enough to see the effectiveness (or lack thereof) of their policies. Two candidates who should be retired, not running for the most stressful job in the world. Between Daycare and Health Insurance premiums, we are close to $30,000/year, and that's assuming everyone stays healthy. That's our floor. People on Medicare with a supplement pay usually no more than $5k/year, and that's their ceiling. So when the debate question about Childcare got skipped over completely with nary a word related to the topic at all from either candidate, further resignation and apathy about the ridiculousness of how parts of our country operate set in.

As a Millennial, going through 9/11 in high school (Biology class when the news hit), graduating college into the Great Recession and competing against literal MBAs for entry level jobs, to finally COVID. How fortunate are we to live through three "once in a generation" events between the times most of us are between the ages of 20 and 40, in our prime earning years. We know that the "Dad was a milkman and supported a family of four in a 3/2 suburbia and vacationed every year" was a literal thing. We know how far behind we are, thanks to decades of policy decisions that just continued to cut the bottom rungs off of the ladder one at a time. In exchange for going through that, our choices for the next four years were these two guys... again... just four years older. In what world are Millennials and Gen Z supposed to think that the American Dream exists in any fashion whatsoever? While older generations expressed dismay at Gen Z not savings and spending for experiences now, us Millennials were like "Ya... we get it. We probably should have done more of that ourselves at your age."

The "We're Not Going Back" line is great. We don't want to go back to the same old drawing board of "Thoughts & Prayers about your most recent shooting" and "It'll trickle down this time, we promise!". It hasn't worked, it isn't working, and it won't work. Is Kamala perfect? No. Will she deliver on half of her campaign promises? Doubtful, depends on the down ballot results mostly. Is she a breath of fresh air to anyone begging for a choice to vote for someone else? Abso-fucking-lutely. Somehow, Nikki Haley likely had it right when said "The first party to retire their 80-year old candidate will win this election." Even if she only delivers on 25% of her promises, that would be a substantial step forward, compared to the regression we'd see under Trump.

I didn't expect this post to be this long. In a way, it was sort of cathartic to write out the generalized frustrations of the last several years. But oddly... that desire to write this out is because I'm finally, FINALLY optimistic about our future in a real way. In a way where there might be a chance that I won't have to worry about my son in school doing active shooter drills, where we might not benefit from Universal Child Care, but future generations will, because they should. Where if someone changes jobs they aren't risking financial ruin before their next set of benefits kicks in, because again, be honest... no one pays the ridiculous COBRA premiums unless they are already in a situation where it's needed.

Stop trying to fix the old ladder. Just build a fucking new one.

[bolverk 29035]

18 minutes ago, DixonHur said:

I'm fully expecting him to say something along the lines of, "how can we trust her not to get us into a war during 'that time of the month'?"

 “blood coming out of her wherever”

[HOOKEM4 4914]

3 minutes ago, Chult86 said:

I don't post all that often, though don't mistake that for not enjoying this board's discourse, OUsucks/Texags point and laughs, and quality original content on a frequent basis.

I haven't felt this sort of enthusiasm about the future of the country in over eight years. Same for my wife. We've been on a road trip the last two days and as such have gotten to digest this with each other seeing the news, subsequent endorsements, and then today's speech.

Let me backtrack a few weeks... The despair really came to fruition the night of the debate. It wasn't THAT bad, it was the worst possible performance other than pissing yourself on stage. Watching it that night, my wife and I first shared feelings of shock. Again, it wasn't as bad as it had been rumored, it was somehow worse. We (and the entire country) knew that night that the only way Biden could win the election would be to get enough anti-Trump people to GOTV. However, that was going to be next to impossible given the level of enthusiasm with the campaign as soon as they walked off the stage that night. We realized that night that Trump had gone from likely longshot odds to win, to a position where even he probably couldn't screw up the next few months bad enough to lose.

Those feelings were soon replaced by frustration and anger. Anger at the DNC for forcing Biden to run again and not spending his term as a true transitional leader and prepare the next generation to lead. Let's be 100% honest: There is nothing about "what the people want" less than forcing two basically octogenarians onto us for the choice to lead the free world for the next four years. Two candidates who wouldn't live long enough to see the effectiveness (or lack thereof) of their policies. Two candidates who should be retired, not running for the most stressful job in the world. Between Daycare and Health Insurance premiums, we are close to $30,000/year, and that's assuming everyone stays healthy. That's our floor. People on Medicare with a supplement pay usually no more than $5k/year, and that's their ceiling. So when the debate question about Childcare got skipped over completely with nary a word related to the topic at all from either candidate, further resignation and apathy about the ridiculousness of how parts of our country operate set in.

As a Millennial, going through 9/11 in high school (Biology class when the news hit), graduating college into the Great Recession and competing against literal MBAs for entry level jobs, to finally COVID. How fortunate are we to live through three "once in a generation" events between the times most of us are between the ages of 20 and 40, in our prime earning years. We know that the "Dad was a milkman and supported a family of four in a 3/2 suburbia and vacationed every year" was a literal thing. We know how far behind we are, thanks to decades of policy decisions that just continued to cut the bottom rungs off of the ladder one at a time. In exchange for going through that, our choices for the next four years were these two guys... again... just four years older. In what world are Millennials and Gen Z supposed to think that the American Dream exists in any fashion whatsoever? While older generations expressed dismay at Gen Z not savings and spending for experiences now, us Millennials were like "Ya... we get it. We probably should have done more of that ourselves at your age."

The "We're Not Going Back" line is great. We don't want to go back to the same old drawing board of "Thoughts & Prayers about your most recent shooting" and "It'll trickle down this time, we promise!". It hasn't worked, it isn't working, and it won't work. Is Kamala perfect? No. Will she deliver on half of her campaign promises? Doubtful, depends on the down ballot results mostly. Is she a breath of fresh air to anyone begging for a choice to vote for someone else? Abso-fucking-lutely. Somehow, Nikki Haley likely had it right when said "The first party to retire their 80-year old candidate will win this election." Even if she only delivers on 25% of her promises, that would be a substantial step forward, compared to the regression we'd see under Trump.

I didn't expect this post to be this long. In a way, it was sort of cathartic to write out the generalized frustrations of the last several years. But oddly... that desire to write this out is because I'm finally, FINALLY optimistic about our future in a real way. In a way where there might be a chance that I won't have to worry about my son in school doing active shooter drills, where we might not benefit from Universal Child Care, but future generations will, because they should. Where if someone changes jobs they aren't risking financial ruin before their next set of benefits kicks in, because again, be honest... no one pays the ridiculous COBRA premiums unless they are already in a situation where it's needed.

Stop trying to fix the old ladder. Just build a fucking new one.

Goddam what a solid fucking post. 10x rep dude. Exactly how my dumbass feels. Respect.

[honolulu horn 6121]

1 hour ago, Red Five said:

"Why do 40 of your former cabinet members think you are unfit for office?"

 

Someone unthread suggested just calling it all 44 and let them try to correct it. That would be spectacular. 

[Biff Tannen 45013]

15 minutes ago, Jive Turkey said:

 

They don’t even know what they are saying anymore 

[David Dennison 17754]

2 minutes ago, Biff Tannen said:

They don’t even know what they are saying anymore 

It's glorious.

[tokamak 6323]

4 minutes ago, Biff Tannen said:

They don’t even know what they are saying anymore 

“DEI” must be the new “woke”. Every damn thing is DEI all of a sudden. 

[Hefeweizen 5221]

What happened to woke?  For a few years everyone was bitching about how everything was woke!  I wondered if they were sleeping before they were woke.

[4th&Five 41111]

1 minute ago, tokamak said:

“DEI” must be the new “woke”. Every damn thing is DEI all of a sudden. 

It’s all just the N word. 

[Francisco 2.0 31922]