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2024 Presidential Election Thread - Let's keep the party going.


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2 minutes ago, Js1 said:

Curious if the VP pick leaks tonight or if Team Harris really is using CDC and no one on earth except Harris and the VP will know until tomorrow 

Leaks mean the admin is messy. 

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Just now, immamac said:

Leaks mean the admin is messy. 

It’s politics. You can’t pay these attention whores enough to be quiet. It doesn’t mean messy. People tend to figure things out - they’ll be watching whose houses gets extra security, flights (that’s how Palin got figured out)

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To keep momentum and headlines going, I think it would be smart to announce the VP pick tomorrow. Gives the media a chance to introduce the candidate to voters and have a little more excitement heading into their 1st rally in Pennsylvania on Tuesday. 

 

 

 

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6 minutes ago, UncleSonny said:

In consecutive days, an American presidential candidate said he doesn’t like Bruce Springsteen but he likes Vlad Putin. And this shit is going to be close? We are truly lost  

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12 minutes ago, UncleSonny said:

In consecutive days, an American presidential candidate said he doesn’t like Bruce Springsteen but he likes Vlad Putin. And this shit is going to be close? We are truly lost  


Springsteen was one of the best concerts / shows I’ve ever attended. He was amazing 

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1 hour ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

Who was the guy who got arrested in his front yard speaking in tongues? It was also the guy who somehow got one of the "water nymphs" friends to come to a happy hour at Oslo either to meet the gang or sort of a date. Either way, she was about as disappointed as you would expect. 

@NorthLoop was this you? 

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3 hours ago, Loch Ness Monster said:

A black guy at the bar last night told me "Yeah Trump is racist but Republicans are better with the economy. Trump cut my taxes and gave me some money during covid. Democrats want to send all my money to Ukraine....Also did you see they let that man beat up a woman in boxing? I can't support Democrats thinking men should beat up women."

 

I’m going to guess this Black guy also tried to rush KA in college too.

 

There’s something about Black people like this, both male and female (although mostly Black males). I did some research during grad school about Blacks, identity, and in-groups/out-groups. This came from a class discussion about gender, sexuality, and culture so there was a connection. Anywho, the argumentation from that class discussion spurned the argument I was going to make in a paper of why Black male athletes play sports for PWIs when some of those PWIs (namely the university of Mississippi) have such a terrible past and terrible fans when it comes to Blacks. (I ended up writing this paper, but from a different lens)

The above connects to some recent research about Blacks and cultural acceptance and how some Blacks who aren’t culturally accepted by other Blacks for whatever reason tend to go to the extreme opposite of the spectrum in order to find acceptance. That acceptance for that “in-group” comes with a disdain for other Blacks because of who they are culturally and what they believe in culturally. So it’s ultimately the Black person going to the extreme opposite in order to find acceptance/an in-group and that in-group/accepting group just happens to stand for all of the things that go against that Black person—but because that Black person feels accepted, they end up believing those things under the guise of “I’m not one of them.” (Candiace Owens, Byron Donalds, Wesley Hunt, etc.) So these people know the in-group they are apart of goes against their interest and hates them based on their skin tone, but they are willing to be used as the token for that group because that’s the group that accepted them and didn’t make fun of them like other Blacks did at one point. This goes in line with that guy saying “I know he’s racist, but…” It’s clear he listens to radical right wing media and has radical Republican friends just based on the other talking points he brought up.

TLDR: some Blacks on the radical right are over on that side because that side accepted them when Blacks didn’t at some point in their life. It borders on a trauma response. 

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5 minutes ago, Pancho said:

TLDR: some Blacks on the radical right are over on that side because that side accepted them when Blacks didn’t at some point in their life. It borders on a trauma response. 

I mean, I assume they’re a lot like Clarence. They’re married to a white man/woman so they see themselves as white now/interacting in white spaces only and you usually end up politically identifying with your social circle  

And the rest are grifting 

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34 minutes ago, tx 3 putt said:


Springsteen was one of the best concerts / shows I’ve ever attended. He was amazing 

The one time I saw him, he played for about 3 hours then did a 45-minute encore that in itself was better than most other concerts I've seen.

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9 minutes ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

Springsteen is good but he ain’t no Kid Rock.

Speaking of trash performers, why hasn’t Ted Nugent been more prominent this go round with the GOP? Did he adopt a new, young girlfriend again or something else wrong with him?

Not enough chili cook-offs, apparently. 

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5 hours ago, jimmyjazz said:

None of them were going to vote Trump.  They weren't going to vote.  I'm telling you, a 20-year-old kid, no matter how high their IQ, they just don't process everything like people with less tread on the tires.

I know this response is late but I had something happen this week that reminded me about my 18yr old self. My grandma game me a book when I was 14 or so that was basically propaganda about how oppressed the confederacy was and how they weren't that bad. It caused me to have a fucked up view of the world until I sought out more information. I had to actively look for it. If I wasn't proactive, I could have lived in my ignorance forever. It is easy to do so.

I was taking care of my mom after she had surgery and while at her house I saw the book. I cracked it and read a few pages and realized how crazy it is now. Hell, the cover is a confederate flag. 

Kids are 100% a product of their environment and even at 20 do not have a solid grasp on anything. Hell, I am over 40 and still struggle to reconcile everything. 

 

 

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7 minutes ago, Pancho said:

 

I’m going to guess this Black guy also tried to rush KA in college too.

 

There’s something about Black people like this, both male and female (although mostly Black males). I did some research during grad school about Blacks, identity, and in-groups/out-groups. This came from a class discussion about gender, sexuality, and culture so there was a connection. Anywho, the argumentation from that class discussion spurned the argument I was going to make in a paper of why Black male athletes play sports for PWIs when some of those PWIs (namely the university of Mississippi) have such a terrible past and terrible fans when it comes to Blacks. (I ended up writing this paper, but from a different lens)

The above connects to some recent research about Blacks and cultural acceptance and how some Blacks who aren’t culturally accepted by other Blacks for whatever reason tend to go to the extreme opposite of the spectrum in order to find acceptance. That acceptance for that “in-group” comes with a disdain for other Blacks because of who they are culturally and what they believe in culturally. So it’s ultimately the Black person going to the extreme opposite in order to find acceptance/an in-group and that in-group/accepting group just happens to stand for all of the things that go against that Black person—but because that Black person feels accepted, they end up believing those things under the guise of “I’m not one of them.” (Candiace Owens, Byron Donalds, Wesley Hunt, etc.) So these people know the in-group they are apart of goes against their interest and hates them based on their skin tone, but they are willing to be used as the token for that group because that’s the group that accepted them and didn’t make fun of them like other Blacks did at one point. This goes in line with that guy saying “I know he’s racist, but…” It’s clear he listens to radical right wing media and has radical Republican friends just based on the other talking points he brought up.

TLDR: some Blacks on the radical right are over on that side because that side accepted them when Blacks didn’t at some point in their life. It borders on a trauma response. 

I mostly agree, although I think they’re more cynical than it appears. They correctly assess the degree to which they can be valuable to non dominants who traffic in race hatred by being willing mouthpieces for their beliefs, while making bank at the same time. As Trump ramps

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They will only see what they are looking for. I agree with @Brisketexan & @Willfully Horn. Discourse is dead. Persuasion is useless. All you can expect from the cultists will be condescension or betrayal. 

It occurs to me as I see some of the above discussion about Black voters who choose Trump. Often it's wondered how they can so blindly vote against their own interest. Everybody who is not rich and voting for Trump is voting against their own interests. 

If it's only a single digit percentage of Black men voting Trump, they're beating the fuck out of the white man vote.

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4 hours ago, Loch Ness Monster said:

A black guy at the bar last night told me "Yeah Trump is racist but Republicans are better with the economy. 

You know who else did pretty good running the economy at the time?  Slave owners. Black unemployment was also zero.

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4 hours ago, Loch Ness Monster said:

A black guy at the bar last night told me "Yeah Trump is racist but Republicans are better with the economy.

It’s frustrating that people continue to believe that because it’s simply not true. Was the guy too young to remember where the economy was when Obama took office and how much better it was when he left? Despite Trump’s lies, the economy did better in Obama’s last three years than it did in Trump’s first three. Trump got a lot of mileage out of lying about the economy both before and after he took office. When he took office he immediately claimed credit for the strong economy he received from Obama.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-takes-credit-for-strong-january-jobs-numbers/

Did you bother pointing out to him that the Biden economy is really strong?

https://thehill.com/business/4715951-world-bank-impressive-us-economy-is-powering-the-world/

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8 hours ago, Brisketexan said:

“Make being a huge piece of shit socially unacceptable again.” Second…the right is going to have to figure out a way to define itself that doesn’t involve - and numerically require - open appeals to hate, authoritarianism, and shittiness. Right now, they can’t win elections WITHOUT the “giant piece of shit” vote. If we can get them to a place where the next thing becomes true (they can’t win elections WITH the “giant piece of shit” vote), then we’ll be at an interesting place.
I’m not holding out hope that we can get there anytime soon. They are all-in on this, and they’ll be there for decades to come.

Just ask them that if radical Marxist socialist  atheist Muslim libtards are so terrible, why didn’t they leave the country in 1992, 1996, or 2008, 2012, or 2020.  Remind them that they can still move out of the country and that the great defender of Christian whites, Vladimir Putin, will happily take them in.  

Tell them right now that George Soros is going to make sure Kamala wins in November, and they should GTFO now while they are still free and not locked up in reeducation camps.

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