2024 Presidential Election Thread - Let's keep the party going.

[Fudge Nuggets 18899]

2 hours ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

The person who tagged me in that fb post voted for Obama, then Hillary Clinton, then Biden. It was a combination of inflation, the border, and the moral panics about trans athletes and CRT that put him over. Curiously, despite voting for Biden and  Democrats in Texas until recently they also became convinced that Biden and Democrats stole the 2020 election.

This is a retired person who is otherwise quite smart, very accomplished, a dedicated conservationist and a good old guy, but he and his peer group are vulnerable to social media and cable news propaganda techniques, and his brain has been poisoned.

That person was never voting for Harris no matter who they voted for in the past.  Apparently something in the last four years fucked them up (trans athletes, CRT, border, etc...) but it wasn't that stupid Facebook post.

[Fudge Nuggets 18899]

1 hour ago, atomheartbevo said:

 

When my relatives or friends post that kind of shit, I usually respond with some variation of  "Who would be dumb enough to believe that?  Are people really falling for this kind of stuff here in 2024?" and then just leave it at that - don't argue or debate.

Some/many will ignore what I said, but there will be some who have known me for decades, and who in the back of their minds, are going to be asking themselves why I would say that. People don't like to be known as suckers or be mocked for believing stuff.  Will it change votes?  For most, no, but it might cause some to stop spreading that shit or at least question it a little bit.

If you try to argue or debate people over that stuff, that is exactly what they are wanting - they want to validate their beliefs.  Just implying that they fell for something, and at the same time acting like it's not worth your time to debate/argue with them is going to bug the shit out of some of them.

 

 

 

Or call them a weirdo for believing it.  That seems to be the kryptonite for MAGA bullshit.

[6th Street 6270]

People still using Facebook in 2024 are mostly low information Trumpkins

[Js1 82950]

 

 

 

[Js1 82950]

This poll came up yesterday

 

Turns out someone came out on Xitter and said they signed up as a voter from AZ and picked Chase Oliver and Lake and the polling company just ran with it.  Nate also lied and confirmed the app doesn't verify.

[A-Tex Devil 2412]

3 hours ago, Okie State said:

If they're voting for all that, Trump ain't their guy.

That's the one-line response.  If you see that on your feed, and you feel like chiming in, just say that.  

[TexasEd 8014]

1 hour ago, Js1 said:

Trump HAS to win NC/GA/PA, because even NC/GA/AZ/NV isn't enough for him (268).  And don't even get us started on FL - if those polls start to tighten in the Sunshine State at all, he's cooked.  He has zero ability to recoup those EVs.

I think that's why Trump cozied up with Elmo, to help get more EVs.

[Jiggy-Z 3421]

9 minutes ago, Js1 said:

 

 

 

Looks like we've got our "Willie Horton".

[Guadaloopy 10798]

10 minutes ago, Js1 said:

 

 

 

Ah... the old "Willie Horton" play.  

[DDD Dad 14060]

On 8/30/2024 at 9:53 AM, Bullneck said:

In any normal universe this would be satire.  

Those costumes need to be redone with the Seven.

[Willfully Horn 7854]

11 minutes ago, Js1 said:

 

 

 

Willie Horton was part of a state furlough program, but Bush was able to hang him around Dukakis’ neck. Harris ought put this on blast, along with the question: how much was Trump paid to let this pos strangle his wife?

[cactusflinthead 26989]

Midwest Dad at it again 

 

[Aqua Buddha 14107]

17 minutes ago, Guadaloopy said:

Ah... the old "Willie Horton" play.  

It won't matter.  Trump could have killed the agent and strangled the wife himself and it won't matter.

It's infuriating, actually.  On almost a daily basis there is something that would DQ any other candidate from either party but nothing matters.

[WhatTheBuck 28604]

29 minutes ago, Js1 said:

 

 

 

Domestic violence? That’s a man’s prerogative as far as MAGAts are concerned. No biggie. She had it coming. 

[mdmost 42316]

8 minutes ago, Willfully Horn said:

Willie Horton was part of a state furlough program, but Bush was able to hang him around Dukakis’ neck. Harris ought put this on blast, along with the question: how much was Trump paid to let this pos strangle his wife?

Trump's campaign will just answer with stories of migrants killing young white women and blaming that on Border Czar Kamala. It's a lose-lose proposition. 

[tx 3 putt 75235]

8 minutes ago, cactusflinthead said:

Midwest Dad at it again 

 

 

damn that sounds good 

[4th&Five 41111]

 

[Pancho 42235]

 

[Pancho 42235]

The radical right republicans are freaking out about Harris code-switching. It’s hilarious because it’s White people claiming her doing this is “weird, odd, or fake” when the group she’s code-switching for doesn’t give a shit and knows exactly why she’s doing it.

 

They.

Have.

Nothing.

[heso 2579]

13 hours ago, tx 3 putt said:

trump gives zero fucks about the election results. his money will be spent on lawyers post election …

I don’t think this is all that surprising. Trump was giving up on everything other than PA and GA, while not expecting that NC was in play. 

in his calculus, he had to win PA and GA, thought that the rest of the blue wall was already lost, and that NV and AZ didn’t matter. 

Thats still the only path to victory for him. Win all 3 of NC, PA, and GA. Lose any of those and the election is lost for him. The polls show it that way too. He’s most likely already lost the rest of the blue wall and the western states don’t matter. 

Kamala has to try to win everything that’s in play outside of those 3 to make it so that unless Trump can win or cheat his way to all 3 of those, she wins. 

[Chopper 16353]

edit - nm looking back @NoName beat me to it

John McCain reaching out from the grave

Edited September 3 by Chopper

[Chopper 16353]

A rare victory, these days, for Isaac Hayes

 

[Js1 82950]

5 minutes ago, Chopper said:

John McCain reaching out from the grave

Meghan is just the entitled family cunt 

[Js1 82950]

Suffolk’s generic congressional ballot is D+5. Was R+3 in June 

[heso 2579]

2 hours ago, BehoId, The Underminer! said:

Silver or someone like that tweeted that the winner of PA has a 90%+ chance of winning it all.

The constant barrage of political advertising I see in PA says that both campaigns know this as well. Watching football is a beating. Every single commercial break has at least one political ad. 

The overwhelming message from the Trump campaign is that illegal immigrants are ruining everything, inflation is all Kamala’s fault, and she’s soft on crime. That’s it. That’s the extent of their message. Some form of that on repeat.

Also sort of interesting to see that 1 campaign sends a mailer 2-3 times a week while the other campaign hasn’t sent me a single one. 
 

Edit to add that some portion of Trumps advertising also claims that he total has absolutely nothing to do with project 2025. 

Edited September 3 by heso

[LCHorn 2529]

2 minutes ago, Js1 said:

Meghan is just the entitled family cunt 

Cunt is a little strong, no?  It’s not like she’s running for governor of Arkansas.  

[Chopper 16353]

This seems bad great. Politico:

 

a snip:

Quote

 

Panic is starting to set in.

“The only thing preventing us from having a great night in November is the massive financial disparity our party currently faces,” said Jason Thielman, the executive director of the National Republican Senatorial Committee. “We are on a trajectory to win the majority, but unless something changes drastically in the next six weeks, we will lose winnable seats.”

In some ways it’s a familiar place for the party, which has found itself facing a version of this quandary every two years since former President Donald Trump turbocharged Democrats’ small-dollar fundraising. And Republicans are sounding the alarm now because they believe there is still time to fix it.

They know they won’t be able to match Democrats dollar-for-dollar, but they need to narrow the deficit to stay in the game.

But Democrats are reaching new heights, pounding the airwaves with multimillion-dollar ad blitzes while their GOP opponents are still scrambling for funds. In some key Senate battlegrounds, Democrats are so flush with cash that they are outspending Republicans by tens of millions on the air. That’s forced the GOP to lean heavily on super PACs, which can raise unlimited amounts of money but must pay higher rates for the same ad slots.

 

 

Edited September 3 by Chopper

[NorthLoop 13930]

46 minutes ago, tx 3 putt said:

 

damn that sounds good 

It's a staple at Wurstfest

[TheStoicPaisano 9786]

On 8/30/2024 at 10:51 PM, Hank Kingsley said:

Did y'all catch what Trump was saying near the end of this clip? Talking about two flags that blew together and formed a "perfect angel" at the Butler rally? 

I just looked it up. 

 

The guy is completely out of his mind. JFC. 

 

SIAP

 

 

Edited September 3 by TheStoicPaisano

[Chopper 16353]

About Pennsylvania, from the same Politico article - perhaps why it's not as strong this year for Dems, so far:

[Js1 82950]

2 minutes ago, Chopper said:

About Pennsylvania, from the same Politico article - perhaps why it's not as strong this year for Dems, so far:

And yet Casey has been up 6+ in almost every poll lol

[heso 2579]

3 minutes ago, Chopper said:

About Pennsylvania, from the same Politico article - perhaps why it's not as strong this year for Dems, so far:

I’ve seen a lot of anti bob Casey ads recently. Probably the second most common political ad I’ve seen for the last week or so. After anti Kamala ads.

[Bozo_Casanova 25822]

1 hour ago, Js1 said:

 

 

 

Jamie Davidson is also at least one of the founding fathers of Reggaeton. 

[bluto 4804]

30 minutes ago, Chopper said:

This seems bad great. Politico:

 

a snip:

 

This shit barely registers with me as any one check from a few dozen gop mega asshole donors and it’s all square. 

[Js1 82950]

2 minutes ago, bluto said:

This shit barely registers with me as any one check from a few dozen gop mega asshole donors and it’s all square. 

McCormick is worth like $150-$200m. 

[Fudge Nuggets 18899]

34 minutes ago, Chopper said:

This seems bad great. Politico:

 

a snip:

 

The amount of money spent in politics is just sickening. 

[Nice Guy Eddie 13295]

3 hours ago, Js1 said:

 

Trump about downballot Republicans: 

Trump only sees the down ballot candidates as a money maker for him. If they want his endorsement, they need to give him money. Usually by renting out a Trump facility. Pay extra and get a tweet. Pay even more and you get a photo opportunity.

There will be zero money in the other direction.

[Js1 82950]

41 minutes ago, LCHorn said:

Cunt is a little strong, no?  It’s not like she’s running for governor of Arkansas.  

I’m open to other things to call her. Entitled nepo baby

[Willfully Horn 7854]

Just now, Fudge Nuggets said:

The amount of money spent in politics is just sickening. 

Less so when the sums spent are raised $20 to $50 bucks at a time. What is sickening is billionaires effectively buying elections.

[BehoId, The Underminer! 11511]

2 minutes ago, Fudge Nuggets said:

The amount of money spent in politics is just sickening. 

 

I bet if you made a $ spent advertising vs. votes changed graph, it would looks something like this.

 

[Js1 82950]

5 minutes ago, Willfully Horn said:

Less so when the sums spent are raised $20 to $50 bucks at a time. What is sickening is billionaires effectively buying elections.

Fuck you SCOTUS!

[jimmyjazz 45162]

Quote

“The only thing preventing us from having a great night in November is the massive financial disparity our party currently faces,” said Jason Thielman, the executive director of the National Republican Senatorial Committee.

Well, when you put it THAT way . . .

[Chopper 16353]

21 minutes ago, bluto said:

This shit barely registers with me as any one check from a few dozen gop mega asshole donors and it’s all square. 

I get the cynicism but there's something called the Lowest Unit Rate, which allows presidential campaigns to purchase ads at the lowest rate. Individual PACs can't access those rates. Also as the election nears it can be all but impossible -- especially in swing states -- to find desirable open time slots for ads. Finally, there's also plenty of wealthy individuals spending money for the Democratic side. 

[Planet Houston 4918]

6 minutes ago, Chopper said:

Finally, there's also plenty of wealthy individuals spending money for the Democratic side. 

Do you even “Soros funded,” bro?

[Chopper 16353]

Also, tv ads are effective in political campaigns but the type of ad (positive, negative, issue-oriented) that's effective varies year to year. That's the conclusion from a study by a Democratic-allied firm. I take this additional conclusion from the same 2024 study as a big positive this year:

the study’s authors also note that the greatest benefits would likely accrue to the best-funded campaigns and groups that can afford to create (and test) many ads in real time, not cash-strapped efforts further down the ballot.

[Chopper 16353]

4 minutes ago, Planet Houston said:

Do you even “Soros funded,” bro?

Cute but I'm talking about a lot of Silicon Valley money and Wall Street, along with other reliable, wealthy, large Democratic donors. 

[Horn Under a Bad Sign 20303]

1 hour ago, LCHorn said:

Cunt is a little strong, no?  It’s not like she’s running for governor of Arkansas.  

No, then it would be gunt. 

[Brisketexan 103515]

1 minute ago, Chopper said:

Cute but I'm talking about a lot of Silicon Valley money and Wall Street, along with other reliable, wealthy, large Democratic donors. 

Yes.....each candidate gets funding from some folks with fat wallets.  But come the fuck on, man.  The delta is insane.  Small dollar donation numbers:

 

Funds raised from small donors

In the 2024 US election campaign season, Kamala Harris has the highest percentage of small donors for any presidential candidate since replacing Joe Biden as the Democratic presidential nominee in July 2024.

Small donors are defined as those contributing less than $200.

Kamala Harris

$209,442,720

Donald Trump

$83,467,443

 

Want to see what the big dollar donors are doing?  Go here.  https://www.opensecrets.org/elections-overview/biggest-donors  13 of the top 20 are almost exclusively donors to Republicans, and the top 4 (which are some BIG numbers) are ALL Republican donors.  Don't "both sides" this shit.  Billionaires and their ilk are a significantly larger source of funds for the GQP than they are for the Dems.

[Chopper 16353]

2 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

Don't "both sides" this shit.  Billionaires and their ilk are a significantly larger source of funds for the GQP than they are for the Dems.

I'm not "both sidesing" shit. If you thought that was any part of my main point -- edit, or you missed that I was merely responding to a snide comment about Soros -- you missed reading a post or two. 

Edited September 3 by Chopper

[BrickHorn 18028]

2 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

Small donors are defined as those contributing less than $200.

Interesting. I always thought it was based on height.