2024 Presidential Election Thread - Let's keep the party going.

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1 hour ago, DixonHur said:

Walz is becoming more relatable by the minute.

Walz's Dipshit Relatives

For

Trump

[Bateshorn 9927]

1 hour ago, aggie08 said:

Siri, show me people who have never ventured farther away from their hometown than Las Vegas. Branson, MO. 

FIFY

[Bateshorn 9927]

1 hour ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

Some men, old or young, are susceptible to believing the loudest, most confidence voice in the room. If you tell them that football team X will win by 21 tonight, or that Biden is working to give your job to a illegal alien, they are prone to accept that as truth. And act on it.

 

[aggie08 21504]

1 hour ago, TeeDubya said:

Branson “Baptist Vegas” would like a word with you….

 

52 minutes ago, Bateshorn said:

FIFY

Nah, I'll give that group some benefit of the doubt. Meemaw and peepaw, in their 50's, spent 3 years planning the trip of a lifetime to Nevada. They stayed off the strip, went to one show, gave the penny slots and $1 blackjack table a good what-fer, and they still talk about it 30 years later. 

[Pancho 44805]

2 hours ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

Some men, old or young, are susceptible to believing the loudest, most confidence voice in the room. If you tell them that football team X will win by 21 tonight, or that Biden is working to give your job to a illegal alien, they are prone to accept that as truth. And act on it.

Many men also work in male dominated fields. At the end of daily safety meeting, why wouldn't you believe your boss who says that the Dems will destroy your industry. And he heard it from his boss the day before. I imagine these are daily talks in the O&G fields. Those with critical thinking skills may recognize that the facts don't match the rhetoric but also why wouldn't you vote for Trump and his drill, baby, drill mantra.

 

Well, and straight men are also very emotional but they try to suppress it because of social pressures. We call this the “Cowboy Syndrome” in academics. When I taught, I reworded it to call it the “Machismo Syndrome” as that resonated with students more. Then we’d get into the discussion of how this impacts males as they grow older and get into relationships and why some of their relationships don’t last or why they can’t get into one (or another one) because of it. Straight males are also the least likely of all to go to therapy for their issues. 

But that is getting waaaayyyy off topic. Back to the topic at hand.

 

[chainsaw 9869]

5 minutes ago, Pancho said:

 

Well, and straight men are also very emotional but they try to suppress it because of social pressures. We call this the “Cowboy Syndrome” in academics. When I taught, I reworded it to call it the “Machismo Syndrome” as that resonated with students more. Then we’d get into the discussion of how this impacts males as they grow older and get into relationships and why some of their relationships don’t last or why they can’t get into one (or another one) because of it. Straight males are also the least likely of all to go to therapy for their issues. 

But that is getting waaaayyyy off topic. Back to the topic at hand.

 

Hulk Hogan is like their Susan Lucci

[cactusflinthead 27598]

 

['stache 21816]

4 hours ago, TeeDubya said:

And Keith should cruise to an easy victory, since most of the MAGA voters will actually weigh voting for a white woman  as less of a mortal sin than voting for a black man…

to the MAGA, racism is a bigger influence than misogyny. 

I think most true magas will either throw the municipal ballot away because they don't see the party line and have no idea who the people are, or because Van Norman already told them that both are dirty libruls. I think moderate republicans and low information voters who remember her as a newscaster and might have come across her name during her the last 16 years she served as a county commissioner will put her over the top. I know Karen personally and like her, I think she'd do a great job administering municipal government they way it should be administered, but I like Monroe too although I don't know him personally, and the significance of electing Tulsa's first Black mayor is important.

After the Tulsa World endorsed Monroe and I started seeing my contemporaries all in for him, I took a calculated risk and voted for Karen in the primary thinking that she needed it more than Monroe to get Van Norman out of the way. Looks like I was right but by the narrowest of margins. I don't know who I'll vote for in November yet. Some of Monroe's more vocal supporters are rubbing me the wrong way a little trying to portray Karen as maga (she's very moderate but has taken decidedly democratic stances when it becomes relevant, including being vocally opposed to the covid trump rally) but I know better than to hold stuff like that against him personally. I do think she'll win by a decent margin from the middle and yeah, maybe some maga racists who hate her, but hate his skin tone more. Either way, we're going to get a good mayor who will treat the job in the nonpartisan way it was intended.

Edited September 4 by 'stache

[Pato del Muerto 52501]

29 minutes ago, chainsaw said:

Hulk Hogan is like their Susan Lucci

Terry is a girl’s name so he had to change it to work in macho wrestling 

[Aqua Buddha 14597]

3 hours ago, aggie08 said:

Siri, show me people who have never ventured farther away from their hometown than Las Vegas.

 

3 hours ago, DixonHur said:

Walz is becoming more relatable by the minute.

Walz and his brother aren't on speaking terms.  I've seen this story a thousand times.  One sibling does better than another and the other is either butt hurt about it or thinks they're owed something.  Walz moved to MN and seems to have done well.  The rest are back in bumblefuck Nebraska and wonder why they can't a job without having to leave their little town.  Tim is now "too good for them" or something or they wanted to borrow money and he said no or he did help out and they squandered it or.....

[lemonlime 5503]

3 hours ago, DixonHur said:

Walz is becoming more relatable by the minute.

The Magats are too stupid to figure out the possessive before printing up T-shirts and posting for millions of people to see.  

['stache 21816]

21 minutes ago, lemonlime said:

The Magats are too stupid to figure out the possessive before printing up T-shirts and posting for millions of people to see.  

Or that losing family to the maga cult makes him very relatable to many people in this country. I'm 100% certain that  either the brother disowned him for being a librul, or refused to stop making it an issue every time they spoke causing the strain in the relationship (this is where I am currently with my mother). That old lady definitely harassed Black folk for sitting at a lunch counter back in her day, maybe even just last week.

[Aqua Buddha 14597]

1 minute ago, 'stache said:

Or that losing family to the maga cult makes him very relatable to many people in this country. I'm 100% certain that  either the brother disowned him for being a librul, or refused to stop making it an issue every time they spoke causing the strain in the relationship (this is where I am currently with my mother). That old lady definitely harassed Black folk for sitting at a lunch counter back in her day, maybe even just last week.

Adam Kinzinger has the exact same story.  Said some relatives stopped speaking to him because he opposed Trump's insurrection.  

[Ghost of LL 15531]

4 hours ago, Js1 said:

9/4 Bloomberg/MC

PA Harris +5

WI Harris +8

MI Harris +2

AZ Harris +2

NV Harris +2

GA Harris +2

NC TIE

WTF has happened in Wisconsin?  I have thought over the last eight years that it was the least secure of the Blue Wall states.  But polling over the past six weeks has consistently had it as the most secure (occasionally showing it outside the MOE, as is the case here).  What's up with that?

Pennsylvania is always close, but it almost always comes home for the Dems.  I suspect it'll be the same here--five points feels high.  If Harris wins it by more than three points, I'd be surprised.

Pennsylvania is not more Dem than Michigan.  It's just not.  And I don't want to hear any bullshit about Dearborn; Harris is not going to run three points in Pennsylvania ahead of where she is in Michigan.

[aggie08 21504]

You guys are all assholes. Losing touch with family just because they are no longer capable of completing an adult conversation about literally anything without mentioning trans people in sports, operating on kids without parental consent, California, "I'm okay with abortions being legal, but up to nine months?", Joe Biden's senility (RIP), who they saw still wearing a mask, inflation, student loan repayment, equal outcomes, god in schools, migrant crime, "gay people sure are everywhere these days", Chicago, Joe Rogan, crypto, "shouldn't all lives matter?", electric cars, gas ovens, windmills, DEI, what's gone woke, vague references to George Soros and a deep state, what Jews are in control of...

 

Edited September 4 by aggie08

[SizzleChest 8284]

46 minutes ago, Aqua Buddha said:

 

Walz and his brother aren't on speaking terms.  I've seen this story a thousand times.  One sibling does better than another and the other is either butt hurt about it or thinks they're owed something.  Walz moved to MN and seems to have done well.  The rest are back in bumblefuck Nebraska and wonder why they can't a job without having to leave their little town.  Tim is now "too good for them" or something or they wanted to borrow money and he said no or he did help out and they squandered it or.....

It's worse.  His brother moved to Florida.

And that big truth reveal by Walz's brother that the Trumpfucks have been teasing?  As a kid, Tim Walz got car sick and no one wanted to sit next to him because he puked all over everything.

[SizzleChest 8284]

4 minutes ago, Ghost of LL said:

WTF has happened in Wisconsin?  I have thought over the last eight years that it was the least secure of the Blue Wall states.  But polling over the past six weeks has consistently had it as the most secure (occasionally showing it outside the MOE, as is the case here).  What's up with that?

Pennsylvania is always close, but it almost always comes home for the Dems.  I suspect it'll be the same here--five points feels high.  If Harris wins it by more than three points, I'd be surprised.

Pennsylvania is not more Dem than Michigan.  It's just not.  And I don't want to hear any bullshit about Dearborn; Harris is not going to run three points in Pennsylvania ahead of where she is in Michigan.

Joe Biden exiting the race is what happened in PA.  Hopefully, he goes there 5 or 6 more times in the next 7-8 weeks.

[Js1 85346]

13 minutes ago, Ghost of LL said:

WTF has happened in Wisconsin?  I have thought over the last eight years that it was the least secure of the Blue Wall states.  But polling over the past six weeks has consistently had it as the most secure (occasionally showing it outside the MOE, as is the case here).  What's up with that?

Pennsylvania is always close, but it almost always comes home for the Dems.  I suspect it'll be the same here--five points feels high.  If Harris wins it by more than three points, I'd be surprised.

Pennsylvania is not more Dem than Michigan.  It's just not.  And I don't want to hear any bullshit about Dearborn; Harris is not going to run three points in Pennsylvania ahead of where she is in Michigan.

Wisconsin feels like an outlier. Honestly if I had to rank them by blueness, it’s Michigan, PA and then Wisconsin 

[lemonlime 5503]

 

10 minutes ago, Ghost of LL said:

WTF has happened in Wisconsin?  I have thought over the last eight years that it was the least secure of the Blue Wall states.  But polling over the past six weeks has consistently had it as the most secure (occasionally showing it outside the MOE, as is the case here).  What's up with that?

Pennsylvania is always close, but it almost always comes home for the Dems.  I suspect it'll be the same here--five points feels high.  If Harris wins it by more than three points, I'd be surprised.

Pennsylvania is not more Dem than Michigan.  It's just not.  And I don't want to hear any bullshit about Dearborn; Harris is not going to run three points in Pennsylvania ahead of where she is in Michigan.

After 2016, WI has elected a Dem governor (a flip from Scott Walker) and two Dem Senators and flipped the state Supreme Court to Dem control.  There was also a referendum pushed by the right, which failed a few weeks ago.

[Tuco 5076]

I imagine Walz probably helps with Wisconsin. Fair amount of population likely gets twin city media and similar northern Midwest populism.

[The Dog 44056]

21 minutes ago, Ghost of LL said:

WTF has happened in Wisconsin?  I have thought over the last eight years that it was the least secure of the Blue Wall states.  But polling over the past six weeks has consistently had it as the most secure (occasionally showing it outside the MOE, as is the case here).  What's up with that?

 

Nothing. Wisconsin is a notoriously difficult state to poll. Trump out-performed the RCP average by 6 in 2020 and 7 in 2016. Some very high-quality pollsters were WAY off in those two cycles - but only in determining Trump support. They weren't that far off in the numbers for Hillary (RCP average 46.8; actual 46.5) or Biden (RCP average 51; actual 49.6).

So the key is to look at Kamala's average support. She needs to be consistently at or above 50% in the polls. 

18 minutes ago, lemonlime said:

 

After 2016, WI has elected a Dem governor (a flip from Scott Walker) and two Dem Senators and flipped the state Supreme Court to Dem control.  There was also a referendum pushed by the right, which failed a few weeks ago.

I think Wisconsin has a large "ride or die with Trump" group who only show up to vote for Trump. Once he's out of the picture they'll disappear and never vote again. 

[MissingInAction 25082]

5 hours ago, Brisketexan said:

But the Dems are coming for them…in two weeks.

It is ALWAYS “in two weeks.”

When I worked in "collections", it was always two weeks. 

It was never two weeks.

[Aqua Buddha 14597]

34 minutes ago, Ghost of LL said:

WTF has happened in Wisconsin?  I have thought over the last eight years that it was the least secure of the Blue Wall states.  But polling over the past six weeks has consistently had it as the most secure (occasionally showing it outside the MOE, as is the case here).  What's up with that?

Pennsylvania is always close, but it almost always comes home for the Dems.  I suspect it'll be the same here--five points feels high.  If Harris wins it by more than three points, I'd be surprised.

Pennsylvania is not more Dem than Michigan.  It's just not.  And I don't want to hear any bullshit about Dearborn; Harris is not going to run three points in Pennsylvania ahead of where she is in Michigan.

Correct on MI.  PA has voted for a statewide Dem most recently.  Whitmer & Co single handedly destroyed the Republican party in MI.  Both states, though, have voted Dem for every statewide since 2020 so I find it hard to believe they all vote Trump now.  You'd have to have people who voted Whitmer and Shapiro just two years now vote Trump.  That's not happening.

[Gatorubet 30240]

1 hour ago, chainsaw said:

Hulk Hogan is like their Susan Lucci

Point of order: Susie finally got an Emmy

[Chopper 17235]

You'll never believe this but Tim Walz's brother is an imbecile and right wing media are amplifying bullshit.

 

https://newrepublic.com/post/185607/tim-walz-brother-facebook-posts-truth

[Red Five 40859]

CNN: "Many are saying that vomiting in a car as a child is disqualifying for Gov. Walz. But is it really? We'll discuss, next." 

[Aqua Buddha 14597]

43 minutes ago, Ghost of LL said:

WTF has happened in Wisconsin?  I have thought over the last eight years that it was the least secure of the Blue Wall states.  But polling over the past six weeks has consistently had it as the most secure (occasionally showing it outside the MOE, as is the case here).  What's up with that?

Pennsylvania is always close, but it almost always comes home for the Dems.  I suspect it'll be the same here--five points feels high.  If Harris wins it by more than three points, I'd be surprised.

Pennsylvania is not more Dem than Michigan.  It's just not.  And I don't want to hear any bullshit about Dearborn; Harris is not going to run three points in Pennsylvania ahead of where she is in Michigan.

Also, one more thing on MI.  I go there from time to time and from what I understand, the Muslim vote in Dearborn is a very loud but very small minority.  Unions, the black vote, and suburban whites are a much bigger factor.

[gernblansten 3197]

57 minutes ago, 'stache said:

Or that losing family to the maga cult makes him very relatable to many people in this country. I'm 100% certain that  either the brother disowned him for being a librul, or refused to stop making it an issue every time they spoke causing the strain in the relationship (this is where I am currently with my mother). That old lady definitely harassed Black folk for sitting at a lunch counter back in her day, maybe even just last week.

This lunch counter make their onion rings in house, cause those can be hard to come by at times. 

[aggie08 21504]

1 minute ago, Red Five said:

CNN: "Many are saying that vomiting in a car as a child is disqualifying for Gov. Walz. But is it really? We'll discuss, next." 

"Is Kamala Harris's judgement up to the task?"

[Hank Kingsley 20948]

JFC, the Walz brother story is so pathetic. 

MAGA has become a safe haven for sad and broken people to act out. 

 

[Chopper 17235]

The magat brother -

 

 

[Js1 85346]

Liz Cheney has officially endorsed Kamala

 

[Js1 85346]

 

[swraith 347]

I had been assuming that endorsement would come after the debate. 

[Js1 85346]

Typically you’re supposed to raise more each month until the election. Trump is going backwards. He also raised like $210m in August 2020, soooo this blows for him

[Macanudo 12979]

Um, who cares about Liz Cheney?  What does that bring really?

[LTbear 4170]

1 minute ago, Macanudo said:

Um, who cares about Liz Cheney?  What does that bring really?

I'm all for every single republican who wants to publicly endorse Kamala.

[Goofyboy 3293]

Um, who cares about Liz Cheney?  What does that bring really?

Surprisingly it keeps people like my father (92 and Republican for a long, long time) committed to voting for Harris. He said between me, my step mom and seeing Adam Kinzinger at the DNC, he’s voting against Trump. He sees other Republicans doing the same and it somehow helps.

[Ghost of LL 15531]

10 minutes ago, Macanudo said:

Um, who cares about Liz Cheney?  What does that bring really?

Well, it brings one vote in Wyoming.  Which I believe is something like 2% of the electorate in that state.

[Foosters 17857]

13 minutes ago, Macanudo said:

Um, who cares about Liz Cheney?  What does that bring really?

My dad LOVES Liz Cheney. He was already going to vote for Harris, but he's smitten with Liz. Stems from 2020 when he kept waiting for SOMEONE in the party to stand up to the madness. 

He's 70. Voted for Obama, Romney, DNV, Biden. He's a good man, and I'm not going to shit on his love for Liz, even though I think she sucks big time.

[Underdog 28654]

39 minutes ago, Gatorubet said:

Point of order: Susie finally got an Emmy

But she never got a dinner!

 

 

[aggie08 21504]

19 minutes ago, Macanudo said:

Um, who cares about Liz Cheney?  What does that bring really?

Not a damn thing. But, as reprehensible as she is on a ton of other issues, mad respect for completely self-immolating her political career for principles and truth.

Maybe her remaining in the spotlight will help convince other Rs that they'll still be relevant/paid if they leave the cult. Not holding my breath.

[TexEx15 17535]

 

[Js1 85346]

Unidos poll of Latinos - Harris 59, Trump 31. On par with 2020 

Mexicans go for Harris 59-30 and she’s tied at 47 with Trump with Cubans. Puerto Ricans go 57-31 Harris 

Edited September 4 by Js1

[Chuckie Finster 22694]

 

He seems like a nice kid but Victor Shi is basically just liberal catturd.

[Chopper 17235]

Worth it for the crowd response

 

[Bozo_Casanova 26472]

13 minutes ago, Js1 said:

Unidos poll of Latinos - Harris 59, Trump 31. On par with 2020 

Mexicans go for Harris 59-30 and she’s tied at 47 with Trump with Cubans. Puerto Ricans go 57-31 Harris 

tied at 47 with cubans? I'll take it but I don't buy it. 

[Js1 85346]

4 minutes ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

tied at 47 with cubans? I'll take it but I don't buy it. 

It was a poll of 3000 Latinos. I buy this poll more than the tiny subsamples of 100 or so 

[Brisketexan 105147]

21 minutes ago, Js1 said:

Unidos poll of Latinos - Harris 59, Trump 31. On par with 2020 

God....I hate us....so, so, so, so much.

31% of us are full on voting for the leopards to eat our faces.  We are SO.  FUCKING.  STUPID.

[Bojack 2081]

1 minute ago, Brisketexan said:

God....I hate us....so, so, so, so much.

31% of us are full on voting for the leopards to eat our faces.  We are SO.  FUCKING.  STUPID.

Aren't you part Cajun as well? Bet you'd really hate to those crosstabs.