2024 Presidential Election Thread - Let's keep the party going.

[Js1 84988]

Second Dude Doug is doing a rally in San Antonio on Monday and fundraisers in Austin/Houston

Edited September 19 by Js1

[Red Five 40574]

1 minute ago, Js1 said:

Second Dude Doug is doing a rally in San Antonio on Monday and fundraisers in Austin/Houston

[aggie08 21286]

Just now, Js1 said:

Nah, feels like the undecided voters will all move towards Kamala at the end.  Why? Because she's more liked.  Independents will gravitate to the more likable candidate. 

Say what you want about Trump, but he was the more positively viewed candidate in 2016 and all the late deciders ended up picking him over Hillary.  God she was awful.  

You're one of my favorite posters period, but you definitely have the top spot from Sept-Nov every even year. Spreading the positive--but data-based and completely realistic--vibes.

Harris is more likable AND, if polls hold, will be viewed as far more likely to win. A lot of independents will feel the natural pull to be a part of the winning team; others will sit out because they don't want to emotionally invest in a probable loser, and the alternative of getting to self-congratulatory proclaim, "I didn't vote for either of those bad choices" in two years is pretty appealing.

[Dbeasy 14928]

Is the Democratic Party wasting money on Allred in Texas given the criticality of races in other states? Seems like a long shot. 

[YChang 3425]

Texas Dem money spends well elsewhere even if it doesn't move the needle for Allred

[Longhorn_Fan68 33779]

5 minutes ago, Dbeasy said:

Is the Democratic Party wasting money on Allred in Texas given the criticality of races in other states? Seems like a long shot. 

no, it appears they are flush with cash and are willing to chase some long shots. 

[tx ind 6985]

Just now, Longhorn_Fan68 said:

no, it appears they are flush with cash and are willing to chase some long shots. 

Plus if there’s a place where you can make Trump play defense when he’s already stretched thin then you do it.

[Js1 84988]

3 minutes ago, Dbeasy said:

Is the Democratic Party wasting money on Allred in Texas given the criticality of races in other states? Seems like a long shot. 

1. This is technically a voting right rally, not an Allred rally.

2. Gary Peters (DSCC Chair) was on TV recently talking up TX and FL.  Both these races are attempts to salvage a Senate majority if Tester loses. (see #4)

3. Senate Dem incumbents in WI and PA and NV look in good shape - shit, the GOP isn't even investing any money downballot in Nevada anymore.  Gallego is flush with money, running against maybe the worst swing state GOP Senate nominee, and Brown is doing what he needs to do in Ohio - I don't think Moreno has led a single poll.  Scholten has lead in every poll in MI and I don't see the GOP or Trump even making big moves there - they're really all in on PA, GA, NC right now. 

4. Tester is in trouble, but we said the same thing about Susan Collins (ugh) and she won in 2020 - she and Tester are big ass brands in low-population states where retail politics wins.  So hard to count him out.

5. There's a shit ton of money to throw nominally at TX and FL to see what happens. 

6. Fuck Ted Cruz, and even Trump's campaign manager is sounding the alarm that something stinks with the Cruz campaign.

[HornPhD 1360]

1 hour ago, Huckleberry said:

Enforce it? You tell him that Biden will pardon him on January 19th because politically Harris can't do it. 

Then you don't pardon him because fuck him. You do to Trump what he has done to people his whole life. 

[LCHorn 2570]

1 minute ago, Dbeasy said:

Is the Democratic Party wasting money on Allred in Texas given the criticality of races in other states? Seems like a long shot. 

Valid question but probably not, at this point.  Politico ran a piece a few days ago about the Montana Senate race and ad buys are in the can and more money/outreach isn’t going to persuade someone voting against the incumbent.  That’s also why the forecasters are so bearish on that one-Tester is going down unless Harris has bigger than expected coattails. 
 

Anyway, you could spend it in Michigan but they have a good Dem running and plenty of party infrastructure.  Brown in Ohio will run ahead of Harris and is a good fundraiser already.  Basically, if you have money it’s spend it on Texas or Florida.  Both will most likely lose but the donor network in Texas probably contributes more nationally so letting them see it get spent at home helps future fundraising efforts.  
 

 

[dieucla98 2914]

1 minute ago, Js1 said:

 

4. Tester is in trouble, but we said the same thing about Susan Collins (ugh) and she won in 2020 - she and Tester are big ass brands in low-population states where retail politics wins.  So hard to count him out.

 

Anecdotal here but when I was in Montana a few weeks back (Bozeman and the surrounding area), I saw more pro Tester signs than I did pro Trump. 

[Kyrie Eleison 9312]

1 hour ago, Chuckie Finster said:

Potential NC implications:

 

Honestly can't even begin to speculate what could be worse than the endless Robinson information already out there.

bet he's on video at one of Diddy's parties covered in baby oil and fucking Meek Mill...

[Js1 84988]

5 minutes ago, LCHorn said:

That’s also why the forecasters are so bearish on that one-Tester is going down unless Harris has bigger than expected coattails. 

Like I posted above, it's really hard to poll Montana.  And we just saw this 4 years ago with Maine - I think everyone in the world had it as a D flip and look what happened.

Don't count out Tester until it's over. 

Shitttt, remember this?  lol

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[The Dog 43713]

14 minutes ago, Dbeasy said:

Is the Democratic Party wasting money on Allred in Texas given the criticality of races in other states? Seems like a long shot. 

Cruz is vulnerable. Tossing a bit of time and money Allred's way isn't a bad investment as long as it's not at the expense of other races. 

8 minutes ago, Longhorn_Fan68 said:

no, it appears they are flush with cash and are willing to chase some long shots. 

And this. I don't think people really understand the advantages the Democrats have this cycle in money and infrastructure. 

Also, spending a bit of time and money here can help build for future races. 

[Js1 84988]

Just now, The Dog said:

Cruz is vulnerable. Tossing a bit of time and money Allred's way isn't a bad investment as long as it's not at the expense of other races. 

And this. I don't think people really understand the advantages the Democrats have this cycle in money and infrastructure. 

Also, spending a bit of time and money here can help build for future races. 

Yep.  Dems could use some enthusiasm for downballot TX HOR races and Dems are defending TX-34 and TX-28 and trying to flip TX-15 (ain't no other competitive House races in Texas)

[BehoId, The Underminer! 11667]

I forgot Robinson was the dude that was the subject of one of my favorite tweets. 
 

 

 

[dieucla98 2914]

2 minutes ago, BehoId, The Underminer! said:

I forgot Robinson was the dude that was the subject of one of my favorite tweets. 
 

 

 

That's it? Expected a lot more from the GOP.

Edit: nevermind, that's not the big news story, that's from a couple weeks ago.

Edited September 19 by dieucla98

[wildcat09 29144]

13 minutes ago, Js1 said:

1. This is technically a voting right rally, not an Allred rally.

2. Gary Peters (DSCC Chair) was on TV recently talking up TX and FL.  Both these races are attempts to salvage a Senate majority if Tester loses. (see #4)

3. Senate Dem incumbents in WI and PA and NV look in good shape - shit, the GOP isn't even investing any money downballot in Nevada anymore.  Gallego is flush with money, running against maybe the worst swing state GOP Senate nominee, and Brown is doing what he needs to do in Ohio - I don't think Moreno has led a single poll.  Scholten has lead in every poll in MI and I don't see the GOP or Trump even making big moves there - they're really all in on PA, GA, NC right now. 

4. Tester is in trouble, but we said the same thing about Susan Collins (ugh) and she won in 2020 - she and Tester are big ass brands in low-population states where retail politics wins.  So hard to count him out.

5. There's a shit ton of money to throw nominally at TX and FL to see what happens. 

6. Fuck Ted Cruz, and even Trump's campaign manager is sounding the alarm that something stinks with the Cruz campaign.

Don't forget Tester's political superpower: being a big ol' boy.

[TexEx15 17401]

1 hour ago, Pancho said:

 

 

 

RE: Robinson in NC, this feels like a NCGOP hail Mary to get him off the ballot. The governorship is lost. They are just trying to stop it from taking down Trump too. If Robinson is off the ballot, they are betting a lot of folks stay home that were only going to vote against him and Trump while they were at it.

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[Js1 84988]

I think it’s entirely too late to remove him, but he can be replaced and any votes for him go to the replacement. That is entirely too confusing for moronic voters 

[Js1 84988]

Also time to start calling it what it is a - a coup against Robinson! HES GETTING BIDEN’D

[SaucyJack 3475]

"ya'll got anymore of them govnerships?"

 

[C-Man 26926]

1 hour ago, Chuckie Finster said:

Potential NC implications:

 

Honestly can't even begin to speculate what could be worse than the endless Robinson information already out there.

LOL no shit.

[Js1 84988]

1 hour ago, Chuckie Finster said:

Potential NC implications:

 

Honestly can't even begin to speculate what could be worse than the endless Robinson information already out there.

He was the one who made the call to draft Bryce Young 

[The Dog 43713]

 

[The Dog 43713]

 

[C-Man 26926]

36 minutes ago, Kyrie Eleison said:

bet he's on video at one of Diddy's parties covered in baby oil and fucking Meek Mill...

https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/huge-story-about-to-drop-on-mark-robinson/

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My phone is blowing up today with calls and texts from Republican sources in North Carolina who are waiting with bated breath about a huge story CNN is reportedly about to drop on this year’s gubernatorial nominee, Lieutenant Governor Mark Robinson.

The CNN article focuses on unsavory comments Robinson made in several online chatrooms, according to sources familiar with the material.

If what I’m hearing is correct, this story will nuke Robinson’s already dwindling chances of flipping termed-out Democratic governor Roy Cooper’s seat. Today is the drop-out deadline in North Carolina, though ballots are already being printed. Robinson spokesman Michael Lonergan tells National Review it’s “complete fiction” that the lieutenant governor will drop out of the governor’s race.

Reminder that Republicans have long worried about this exact scenario playing out. That roster of concerned Republicans includes North Carolina senator Thom Tillis, who endorsed one of Robinson’s primary challengers back in December in an interview with NR.

Here’s some of my reporting from January 2023 in The Dispatch:

North Carolina Republicans continue to feel uneasy about their party’s current gubernatorial frontrunner, firebrand Lt. Gov. Mark Robinson. But no coherent strategy yet exists to knock him out in a primary.

Those with concerns about Robinson fear his controversial views, as well as his checkered personal and campaign finance history, will alienate suburban and independent voters in 2024 as Republicans try to flip the the gubernatorial seat of term-limited Democratic Gov. Roy Cooper.

And many Republicans know Democrats have amassed an opposition research file that could be leaked at any time. Even Robinson seems worried about more potentially damaging revelations.

“I know there’s probably a lot of stuff out there swirling around …People are trying to put doubt in the air about our campaign, about me, but none of that stuff is true, I guarantee you,” Robinson said in a voicemail he left for a prospective Republican donor on Thursday, obtained by The Dispatch. “We’re ready to take this challenge on. And I believe that we are the candidate.”

This story has been updated.

 

[tx 3 putt 75916]

36 minutes ago, The Dog said:

Cruz is vulnerable. Tossing a bit of time and money Allred's way isn't a bad investment as long as it's not at the expense of other races. 

And this. I don't think people really understand the advantages the Democrats have this cycle in money and infrastructure. 

Also, spending a bit of time and money here can help build for future races. 

 

trump is more likable than cruz and a big harris push of voters will vote dem. anything can happen 

[Brisketexan 104217]

1 hour ago, Al Bundy's Napoleon Hand said:

Porn isn't real?

I have news for you....most of it is not real.

Also...and I hope you're sitting down for this....that stripper didn't actually "really like you."

[Pancho 44153]

1 hour ago, Js1 said:

Nah, feels like the undecided voters will all move towards Kamala at the end.  Why? Because she's more liked.  Independents will gravitate to the more likable candidate. 

Say what you want about Trump, but he was the more positively viewed candidate in 2016 and all the late deciders ended up picking him over Hillary.  God she was awful.  

This.  CNN wants Trump to win bc eyeballs.  That's why Fox wants her to win. 

 

1 hour ago, tbone_ said:

Don’t kid yourself. The Fox execs absolutely want Kamala to win. They know they sell outrage.

 

 

I think it depends on which Murdoch gets Fox. Right now, Rupert is in court trying to give it to Lachlan so it stays radical right wing. If James gets Fox, he’s already said he’s taking Fox News back to being moderate. 

Personally, I’ve been surprised at some of the “positive” news they’ve given Harris lately and how they’ve been fact checking turnip a lot more.

[Zonahorn 8071]

 

[G650 13825]

Just now, Zonahorn said:

 

I lold

[Pancho 44153]

So the deadline for Robinson to drop out is tonight?

[hookem2010 2590]

[SydneyCarton 47808]

43 minutes ago, TexEx15 said:

 

RE: Robinson in NC, this feels like a NCGOP hail Mary to get him off the ballot. The governorship is lost. They are just trying to stop it from taking down Trump too. If Robinson is off the ballot, they are betting a lot of folks stay home that were only going to vote against him and Trump while they were at it.

This is what I think it is, 100%

20 minutes ago, C-Man said:

https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/huge-story-about-to-drop-on-mark-robinson/

 

You know what? CNN Should fucking sit on the fucking story until Monday. Problem fucking solved.

3 minutes ago, Pancho said:

 

 

 

I think it depends on which Murdoch gets Fox. Right now, Rupert is in court trying to give it to Lachlan so it stays radical right wing. If James gets Fox, he’s already said he’s taking Fox News back to being moderate. 

Personally, I’ve been surprised at some of the “positive” news they’ve given Harris lately and how they’ve been fact checking turnip a lot more.

I'm unfamiliar with any of this...there's a battle for control of Fox? Lachlan has always been Rupert's boy, why is this even in question? Is there some kind of push from the board or something?

[Brisketexan 104217]

1 minute ago, G650 said:

I lold

Seriously.   The concept "would be completely unacceptable for GQP voters" does not exist, with one exception: "He's running as a democrat."  That's it.  That's the only thing that loses GQP support.

Being a scumbag piece of shit is a feature, not a bug, AND GQP VOTERS LOVE IT BECAUSE IT SHOWS HOW POWERFUL THEY ARE.  They can force the people to be governed by a scumbag piece of shit, and there's nothing you can do to stop us!

[Js1 84988]

1 minute ago, SydneyCarton said:

I'm unfamiliar with any of this...there's a battle for control of Fox? Lachlan has always been Rupert's boy, why is this even in question? Is there some kind of push from the board or something?

https://www.cnn.com/2024/09/17/media/murdoch-family-succession-fox-news-future/index.html

Real life Succession

[Chopper 17050]

The NC candidate supposedly being an avowed and confirmed Holocaust denier and now there's information supposedly about to drop that he referred to himself a Nazi does nothing for me. It's the same damn thing. But here we are. Taniel is very legit, founder of Bolts Magazine, very active political and poll analyst. https://businessnc.com/upcoming-cnn-story-has-robinson-on-defense/  (edit - he's also one of the best follows on any election night)

 

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[Zonahorn 8071]

OH SHIT

[Goredho 17266]

52 minutes ago, BehoId, The Underminer! said:

I forgot Robinson was the dude that was the subject of one of my favorite tweets. 
 

 

 

That’s just a warning shot.  People don’t go to those places to just watch porn, especially in the age of the intardnet when you can watch all the porn you want for free at home.

[Chopper 17050]

3 minutes ago, SydneyCarton said:

This is what I think it is, 100%

You know what? CNN Should fucking sit on the fucking story until Monday. Problem fucking solved.

I'm unfamiliar with any of this...there's a battle for control of Fox? Lachlan has always been Rupert's boy, why is this even in question? Is there some kind of push from the board or something?

Yes, trial in Las Vegas just underway. Rupert wants to bust the family trust and give Fox to Lachlan. The two offspring (son and daughter) are suing because he shouldn't legally be able to bust the Trust.

[Js1 84988]

 

 

[Chad Fuck 17454]

6 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

Seriously.   The concept "would be completely unacceptable for GQP voters" does not exist, with one exception: "He's running as a democrat."  That's it.  That's the only thing that loses GQP support.

Being a scumbag piece of shit is a feature, not a bug, AND GQP VOTERS LOVE IT BECAUSE IT SHOWS HOW POWERFUL THEY ARE.  They can force the people to be governed by a scumbag piece of shit, and there's nothing you can do to stop us!

Exactly.  I'm starting to think you could catch them in bed with a live boy and the gqp would just shrug and say, "Well, Imma Christian so I believe in redemption.  Also, he's our guy."  

Those two in combination fix all ills in their mind.

[Chewbacca 7665]

7 hours ago, Francisco 2.0 said:

Having a real hard time reconciling the possibility that a D senator is polling 8 points or greater over a R, and a D presidential candidate is in a dead heat.

 

 

Similar deal to AZ and I can't wrap my head around it, either.

[Chad Fuck 17454]

5 minutes ago, Goredho said:

That’s just a warning shot.  People don’t go to those places to just watch porn, especially in the age of the intardnet when you can watch all the porn you want for free at home.

They don't? 

[Pancho 44153]

I cannot fathom the trauma Mark Robinson has that makes him hate so much including his own people. 

Like that trauma is bad bad. Sure, he was probably called the n word a few times when he was younger like we all have but it has to be worse than just that.

[Red Five 40574]

Just now, Chad Fuck said:

Exactly.  I'm starting to think you could catch them in bed with a live boy and the gqp would just shrug and say, "Well, Imma Christian so I believe in redemption.  Also, he's our guy."  

Those two in combination fix all ills in their mind.

You see, the left is SO EVIL, that it doesn't matter how evil team (R) is. That's the fun part. There could be verified video of Trump and Vance murdering children and laughing while they do it, and the vast majority of their supporters would say "Still better than voting for a democrat!". 

[Goredho 17266]

1 minute ago, Chad Fuck said:

They don't? 

Just saying there are more embarrassing and salacious details that can/will be exposed.  That’s a teaser.  The tip of the proverbial big black iceberg.

[BrickHorn 18134]

11 minutes ago, Zonahorn said:

OH SHIT

Isn’t NewsWire just some half-assed rumor monger?

[Chopper 17050]

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