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1 minute ago, mdmost said:

Because if he doesn't and Trump wins, vindictive Trump will immediately end all aid to Ukraine. Zelensky has to play the stupid game because we're a stupid fucking country that allows that toddler to possibly be our Commander-In-Chief. 

He has to know that trump will do whatever Putin says. 

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23 minutes ago, mdmost said:

Yeah, but latinos, you and the people you care about who are latino will be totally fine. 

Yeah - nothing to worry about. It’s not like Stephen Miller hasn’t publicly talked about denaturalizing citizens and Lindsey Graham introduced legislation to end birthright citizenship. 

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https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/north-carolina-lt-gov-mark-robinson-hospitalized-after/story?id=114307092

Lt. Gov. Mark Robinson hospitalized after 'incident' at campaign event, source says

He was at a campaign event in Mount Airy, North Carolina.
Praying hard for a quick recovery for a true soldier

Jesus, what does a Robinson campaign event look like at this point? Just blind Dave Chapelles everywhere?
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11 hours ago, Brisketexan said:

Counterpoint....those areas were among the strongest anti-secession votes leading up to the Civil War.

I think their whiteness and ruralness trumps German heritage.

I think that NYT article nails it:  whites are fragile and those who feel marginalized react severely, whether they're actually marginalized or not, and the targets of their reaction are minority groups.

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51 minutes ago, Hmbre97 said:

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Call me crazy, but I am betting that Latinos for Trump have zero problem with deporting black people.  Not all Latinos hate black people, but some do, and I am betting they vote for Trump.  

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2 minutes ago, Tuco said:

Call me crazy, but I am betting that Latinos for Trump have zero problem with deporting black people.  Not all Latinos hate black people, but some do, and I am betting they vote for Trump.  

I think the point is their asses will be deported too.  

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2 hours ago, tx 3 putt said:

when was the last time trump had a winning idea 

You would have to define the conditions - winning for Trump means something far different than say winning for Republicans.

If he sells a few dozen of those $100k watches, that's a winning idea for Trump.  If Lara diverts money from down-ballot Republicans who are struggling in their races, in order to pay for Trump's jet hauling his ass around, or some work at Mar-a-Lago in the guise of campaign events, it's a winning idea for Trump.

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1 hour ago, mdmost said:

Because if he doesn't and Trump wins, vindictive Trump will immediately end all aid to Ukraine. Zelensky has to play the stupid game because we're a stupid fucking country that allows that toddler to possibly be our Commander-In-Chief. 

1 hour ago, Pato del Muerto said:

He has to know that trump will do whatever Putin says. 

Trump's priorities will be:

  • Stop all aid to Ukraine
  • Get sanctions off of Russia so it can rebuild a lot of its defense industry.
  • Get sanctions off of Iran so that Iran can beef up its drone and missile delivery to Russia.

 

 

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1 hour ago, Hmbre97 said:

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Latinos for trump share a lot commonalities with white trash racists for trump.   The we hate blacks, is one of the biggest common grounds.   Of course these dumbasses will e the first ones to get thrown under the boxcar, but they are too stupid/racist to realize it. 

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21 minutes ago, Ted Lange said:

Latinos for trump share a lot commonalities with white trash racists for trump.   The we hate blacks, is one of the biggest common grounds.   Of course these dumbasses will e the first ones to get thrown under the boxcar, but they are too stupid/racist to realize it. 

They are almost united in support of Pinochet regardless of nationality if anything Trump is not dictator enough.

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22 hours ago, Pato del Muerto said:

Yeah I saw a truck with a couple of big flags yesterday and I can’t understand why anyone, let along a large cohort, would do something like that. It’s completely out of the ordinary for American politics, and it’s 12 years on now. 

Two words: Barack Hussein Obama.

 

 

*No math lessons.

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13 hours ago, atomheartbevo said:

.We're 40 days out and Trump shows no signs of slowing down on the racist attacks on Haitians/Haitian-American.  That's not going to help him.

They're betting racism will win. They have a shot at bring right.

That is the play. The fact that We The People can't get past the star on our belly is going to continue to be a fracture point. Probably forever or until the evil side wins and purges. This house, this great Republic, was and is built on the foundation of racial hate. It will always be shaky.

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7 hours ago, Ted Lange said:

Latinos for trump share a lot commonalities with white trash racists for trump.   The we hate blacks, is one of the biggest common grounds.   Of course these dumbasses will e the first ones to get thrown under the boxcar, but they are too stupid/racist to realize it. 

Project 2026: end birthright citizenship for anyone whose ancestors came to the US in chains in the hold of a ship.

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35 minutes ago, Chopper said:

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Really?  You can't bring a gun to the AOC, Beto, Bernie target practice?  Oops?  I meant "rally."  

46 minutes ago, Willfully Horn said:

This will make it much easier, not to mention cheaper, for corps and venture capitalists to buy properties.

Beachfront properties.  

Then some Chip Roy will introduce double payout hurricane insurance.

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14 minutes ago, Js1 said:

NYT/Siena -Harris +2  WI, Harris +1 Michigan, Trump +6 Ohio, Harris +9 NE-02

Brown also up 4 in Ohio

To me the NE-02 is most interesting. It tells me that Trump is in heaps of trouble in the burbs, which is the most powerful voting block in most of the swing states outside of NC. 

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6 minutes ago, Bateshorn said:

To me the NE-02 is most interesting. It tells me that Trump is in heaps of trouble in the burbs, which is the most powerful voting block in most of the swing states outside of NC. 

Yep. I said yesterday even if he makes marginal gains with minority and young voters, it’s going to get wiped out by Harris’ gains in the suburbs. I don’t think this is close - obviously you can’t extract out a district for a state, but numbers that like in the burbs makes me think this is not going to be that close in the end 

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8 minutes ago, TheStoicPaisano said:

 

He debunked the fact check as he made the statement. "The fake news heard about it and they said, 'it never happened.' But I said, 'I swear to you it happened.'"

So, counter fact check engaged.

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19 minutes ago, Js1 said:

Yep. I said yesterday even if he makes marginal gains with minority and young voters, it’s going to get wiped out by Harris’ gains in the suburbs. I don’t think this is close - obviously you can’t extract out a district for a state, but numbers that like in the burbs makes me think this is not going to be that close in the end 

Yeah. He needs to at least partially offset his losses with  surburban women by picking up some of their husbands. If these numbers are right, he’s not 

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Latinos for trump share a lot commonalities with white trash racists for trump.   The we hate blacks, is one of the biggest common grounds.   Of course these dumbasses will e the first ones to get thrown under the boxcar, but they are too stupid/racist to realize it. 

I am spending a lot of time in the Valley and this is true. When you couple it with Latinos’ hyper support of the police and military and all things patriotic, you see what’s happening. BLM was the biggest disaster for south Texas Democrats and it will take a long time to recover from that. I sense that the real MAGAS are laughing at them.
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Is the Robinson burn hospitalization story the start of an excuse to quit? I have to think that someone will offer him straight cash to quit since his campaign has the potential to cost trump the WH. 
 

could be the best money that the Trump side can spend. 

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9 hours ago, chainsaw said:

What the fuck?  Why was the lieutenant governor at a campaign event while large swaths of the state he was supposed to be governing were being decimated?   Not that he was a serious person before, but how can anyone support this crap?

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Hey Latinos, the master blueprint is out there is…

“As the Taliban starts enforcing draconian new rules on women in Afghanistan, it has also begun to target a group that didn’t see tight restrictions on them coming: Afghan men.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2024/09/22/afghanistan-taliban-restrictions-men-beards/?pwapi_token=eyJ0eXAiOiJKV1QiLCJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9.eyJyZWFzb24iOiJnaWZ0IiwibmJmIjoxNzI3NDk2MDAwLCJpc3MiOiJzdWJzY3JpcHRpb25zIiwiZXhwIjoxNzI4ODc4Mzk5LCJpYXQiOjE3Mjc0OTYwMDAsImp0aSI6IjM0ZWE4MzM1LWI5NjgtNDRiOC05NmJjLTAyNTA3Y2ZlNjNmNyIsInVybCI6Imh0dHBzOi8vd3d3Lndhc2hpbmd0b25wb3N0LmNvbS93b3JsZC8yMDI0LzA5LzIyL2FmZ2hhbmlzdGFuLXRhbGliYW4tcmVzdHJpY3Rpb25zLW1lbi1iZWFyZHMvIn0.UgZ84NmqwGv5p0LzKUgwLadY5v5k1LXLz8ShSWGM2ik&itid=gfta
 

 

 

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As the Taliban starts enforcing draconian new rules on women in Afghanistan, it has also begun to target a group that didn’t see tight restrictions on them coming: Afghan men. Women have faced an onslaught of increasingly severe limits on their personal freedom and rules about their dress since the Taliban seized power three years ago. But men in urban areas could, for the most part, carry on freely. The past four weeks, however, have brought significant changes for them, too. New laws promulgated in late August mandate that men wear a fist-long beard, bar them from imitating non-Muslims in appearance or behavior, widely interpreted as a prohibition against jeans, and ban haircuts that are against Islamic law, which essentially means short or Western styles. Men are now also prohibited from looking at women other than their wives or relatives. As a result, more are growing beards, carrying prayer rugs and leaving their jeans at home. These first serious restrictions on men have come as a surprise to many in Afghanistan, according to a range of Afghans, including Taliban opponents, wavering supporters and even members of the Taliban regime, who spoke in phone interviews over the past two weeks. In a society where a man’s voice is often perceived as far more powerful than a woman’s, some men now wonder whether they should have spoken up sooner to defend the freedoms of their wives and daughters.

“If men had raised their voices, we might also be in a different situation now,” said a male resident of the capital, Kabul, who like others interviewed for this story spoke on the condition of anonymity or that only their first names be used due to fears of drawing unwanted scrutiny from the regime. “Now, everyone is growing a beard because we don’t want to be questioned, humiliated,” he said.
The Taliban’s new rules governing men pale in comparison with restrictions the government has placed on girls and women, who remain banned from going to school above sixth grade, barred from universities and were recently prohibited from raising their voices in public, among many other rules. But newly empowered religious morality officers, known for their white robes, have been knocking over the past four weeks on the doors of men in some parts of Kabul who haven’t recently attended mosque, according to residents. Government employees said they fear they’ll be let go for having failed to grow their beards, and some barbers now refuse to trim them. Increasingly, male taxi drivers are being stopped for violating gender segregation rules, by having unaccompanied female riders in their cars, or for playing music. The new laws give the morality police authority to detain suspects for up to three days. In severe cases, such as repeated failure to pray in the mosque, suspects can be handed over to courts for trial and sentencing based on their interpretation of Islamic sharia law. Violations of the new rules are expected to be punished by fines or prison terms. But people found guilty of some infractions, for example adultery, could be sentenced to flogging or death by stoning.

Amir, a resident who lives in eastern Afghanistan, said he supported the Taliban up until the latest restrictions. But he now feels bullied into submission by their morality police.
We all are practicing Muslims and know what is mandatory or not. But it’s unacceptable to use force on us,” he said. He added, “Even people who have supported the Taliban are now trying to leave the country.” Most men interviewed for this story live in Kabul, the country’s most cosmopolitan city, or other urban areas. Residents of more conservative and traditional parts of Afghanistan said they have noticed barely any changes. A male resident of rural Helmand, in southern Afghanistan, said no one in his village has concerns and such rules have long been customary there. “No morality police has showed up here so far. They focus on the cities,” he said. The new restrictions appear to reflect a broader shift in the balance of power inside the Taliban, with the most conservative elements either gaining influence or seeking to assert themselves more aggressively in urban areas, according to Western officials and Afghan critics of the Taliban. The Ministry of Vice and Virtue, which directs the morality police, could not be reached for comment. A former senior official with the Ministry of Vice and Virtue denied that the ministry is increasingly turning into a shadow law enforcement agency, saying its primary responsibility remains preaching. He spoke on the condition of anonymity because he is no longer authorized to respond to journalists.

The new restrictions on women include a ban on them raising their voices, reciting the Quran in public and looking at men other than their husbands or relatives. Women must also cover the lower half of their faces in addition to donning a head covering they were already expected to wear.
The crackdown by morality police in urban areas, where some religious rules had been rarely enforced, has heightened anxiety among women. For men, it has come as a shock. A 36-year old male driver in Kabul said the new restrictions feel “enormous” and pose a growing hardship for his work. His revenue has declined by 70 percent since late August, he said, partly because the Taliban has begun enforcing a rule that bans women from traveling alone in taxis. Even in some government offices, a new sense of dread has set in. A former Taliban supporter recalled how a friend, who still works for the regime, recently had his salary withheld because his beard wasn’t sufficiently long. “We are hearing that some of the civil servants, whose beards were shorter than the required length, were barred from entering their departments,” said a government employee, speaking on the condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to speak to journalists. For the past three years, Afghan women often felt alone in their anguish. Some grew exasperated by their husbands’ silence or growing support for the Taliban, which tried to win public favor by building roads and repairing tunnels.

Several women said they hope their protests will soon be joined by Afghan men. “Men were silent from Day 1, which gave the Taliban the courage to keep imposing such rules,” said a 24-year-old female resident in Kabul. “Now, the Taliban is finally losing men’s support,” she said. Others are skeptical whether criticism of the rules can make a difference. In interviews, several Kabul residents said they have begun in recent weeks to look more seriously into leaving the country. “But if more young people flee this country,” said a male Kabul resident, “there won’t be any hope at all.”

 

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Hey Latinos, the master blueprint is out there is…
“As the Taliban starts enforcing draconian new rules on women in Afghanistan, it has also begun to target a group that didn’t see tight restrictions on them coming: Afghan men.”
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2024/09/22/afghanistan-taliban-restrictions-men-beards/?pwapi_token=eyJ0eXAiOiJKV1QiLCJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9.eyJyZWFzb24iOiJnaWZ0IiwibmJmIjoxNzI3NDk2MDAwLCJpc3MiOiJzdWJzY3JpcHRpb25zIiwiZXhwIjoxNzI4ODc4Mzk5LCJpYXQiOjE3Mjc0OTYwMDAsImp0aSI6IjM0ZWE4MzM1LWI5NjgtNDRiOC05NmJjLTAyNTA3Y2ZlNjNmNyIsInVybCI6Imh0dHBzOi8vd3d3Lndhc2hpbmd0b25wb3N0LmNvbS93b3JsZC8yMDI0LzA5LzIyL2FmZ2hhbmlzdGFuLXRhbGliYW4tcmVzdHJpY3Rpb25zLW1lbi1iZWFyZHMvIn0.UgZ84NmqwGv5p0LzKUgwLadY5v5k1LXLz8ShSWGM2ik&itid=gfta
 
 
 
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As the Taliban starts enforcing draconian new rules on women in Afghanistan, it has also begun to target a group that didn’t see tight restrictions on them coming: Afghan men. Women have faced an onslaught of increasingly severe limits on their personal freedom and rules about their dress since the Taliban seized power three years ago. But men in urban areas could, for the most part, carry on freely. The past four weeks, however, have brought significant changes for them, too. New laws promulgated in late August mandate that men wear a fist-long beard, bar them from imitating non-Muslims in appearance or behavior, widely interpreted as a prohibition against jeans, and ban haircuts that are against Islamic law, which essentially means short or Western styles. Men are now also prohibited from looking at women other than their wives or relatives. As a result, more are growing beards, carrying prayer rugs and leaving their jeans at home. These first serious restrictions on men have come as a surprise to many in Afghanistan, according to a range of Afghans, including Taliban opponents, wavering supporters and even members of the Taliban regime, who spoke in phone interviews over the past two weeks. In a society where a man’s voice is often perceived as far more powerful than a woman’s, some men now wonder whether they should have spoken up sooner to defend the freedoms of their wives and daughters.
“If men had raised their voices, we might also be in a different situation now,” said a male resident of the capital, Kabul, who like others interviewed for this story spoke on the condition of anonymity or that only their first names be used due to fears of drawing unwanted scrutiny from the regime. “Now, everyone is growing a beard because we don’t want to be questioned, humiliated,” he said.
The Taliban’s new rules governing men pale in comparison with restrictions the government has placed on girls and women, who remain banned from going to school above sixth grade, barred from universities and were recently prohibited from raising their voices in public, among many other rules. But newly empowered religious morality officers, known for their white robes, have been knocking over the past four weeks on the doors of men in some parts of Kabul who haven’t recently attended mosque, according to residents. Government employees said they fear they’ll be let go for having failed to grow their beards, and some barbers now refuse to trim them. Increasingly, male taxi drivers are being stopped for violating gender segregation rules, by having unaccompanied female riders in their cars, or for playing music. The new laws give the morality police authority to detain suspects for up to three days. In severe cases, such as repeated failure to pray in the mosque, suspects can be handed over to courts for trial and sentencing based on their interpretation of Islamic sharia law. Violations of the new rules are expected to be punished by fines or prison terms. But people found guilty of some infractions, for example adultery, could be sentenced to flogging or death by stoning.
Amir, a resident who lives in eastern Afghanistan, said he supported the Taliban up until the latest restrictions. But he now feels bullied into submission by their morality police.
We all are practicing Muslims and know what is mandatory or not. But it’s unacceptable to use force on us,” he said. He added, “Even people who have supported the Taliban are now trying to leave the country.” Most men interviewed for this story live in Kabul, the country’s most cosmopolitan city, or other urban areas. Residents of more conservative and traditional parts of Afghanistan said they have noticed barely any changes. A male resident of rural Helmand, in southern Afghanistan, said no one in his village has concerns and such rules have long been customary there. “No morality police has showed up here so far. They focus on the cities,” he said. The new restrictions appear to reflect a broader shift in the balance of power inside the Taliban, with the most conservative elements either gaining influence or seeking to assert themselves more aggressively in urban areas, according to Western officials and Afghan critics of the Taliban. The Ministry of Vice and Virtue, which directs the morality police, could not be reached for comment. A former senior official with the Ministry of Vice and Virtue denied that the ministry is increasingly turning into a shadow law enforcement agency, saying its primary responsibility remains preaching. He spoke on the condition of anonymity because he is no longer authorized to respond to journalists.
The new restrictions on women include a ban on them raising their voices, reciting the Quran in public and looking at men other than their husbands or relatives. Women must also cover the lower half of their faces in addition to donning a head covering they were already expected to wear.
The crackdown by morality police in urban areas, where some religious rules had been rarely enforced, has heightened anxiety among women. For men, it has come as a shock. A 36-year old male driver in Kabul said the new restrictions feel “enormous” and pose a growing hardship for his work. His revenue has declined by 70 percent since late August, he said, partly because the Taliban has begun enforcing a rule that bans women from traveling alone in taxis. Even in some government offices, a new sense of dread has set in. A former Taliban supporter recalled how a friend, who still works for the regime, recently had his salary withheld because his beard wasn’t sufficiently long. “We are hearing that some of the civil servants, whose beards were shorter than the required length, were barred from entering their departments,” said a government employee, speaking on the condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to speak to journalists. For the past three years, Afghan women often felt alone in their anguish. Some grew exasperated by their husbands’ silence or growing support for the Taliban, which tried to win public favor by building roads and repairing tunnels.
Several women said they hope their protests will soon be joined by Afghan men. “Men were silent from Day 1, which gave the Taliban the courage to keep imposing such rules,” said a 24-year-old female resident in Kabul. “Now, the Taliban is finally losing men’s support,” she said. Others are skeptical whether criticism of the rules can make a difference. In interviews, several Kabul residents said they have begun in recent weeks to look more seriously into leaving the country. “But if more young people flee this country,” said a male Kabul resident, “there won’t be any hope at all.”

 


Duh. The leopards will always get around to eating your face. Always.
“Latinos for Trump” is the dumbest movement on earth.
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