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15 minutes ago, Podrick's Magic Cock said:

Twenty years ago, Howard Dean screamed and was labeled too much of a hot head to be president.  Now, an open traitor is allowed to run for the office?  What..the...fuck?

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4 hours ago, 4th&Five said:

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Woodward Trump is a total sleazebag who has lost it mentally, and he's slow, lethargic, incompetent and overall a boring person with no personality." - Steven Cheung, Communications
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When Kamala wins and the government orders Bugs Bunny to cut Florida into the Atlantic Ocean, we should have a Cash 4 Clunkers program where we take all the leftover beach homes from the hurricanes and ship them piecemeal to Lake of the Ozarks as one last jobs program.

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1 hour ago, bolverk said:

It's not just that Trump was secretly talking with Putin while out of office, but that Trump was also pressuring Republicans in Congress to block military aid to Ukraine to fight Russian invaders. In short, he was attempting to influence our foreign policy, likely at Putin's bidding.

Yes he was:

Donald Trump reportedly asked Vladimir Putin for his advice on whether the US should help arm Ukraine at their first in-person meeting.

The Republican presidential nominee, who has been vocal in his criticism of Ukrainian president Volodymyr Zelensky, reportedly asked Putin “what do you think?” when the pair met in Hamburg in 2017, according to The New York Times.

Trump has wildly claimed Putin “would never have gone into Ukraine” if he were president and has touted his “very good relationship” with him several times.

 
 

The meeting — which took place three years after Russian forces invaded the Crimean peninsula — was “an opening” for Putin to begin exploiting Trump’s “escalating political grudge” against Ukraine in a bid to weaken US support for the country, officials who were privy to the exchange have shared with the newspaper.

Trump had only been in office for seven months when the pair met. Former Secretary of State Rex Tillerson attended the meeting, which was “a masterclass” by Putin to mold the relatively new president’s approach to Ukraine, according to The Times

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If Trump has been talking diplomacy to Putin this whole time, why didn’t he tell him not to invade?   What lever does the power of the presidency afford him that haven’t been used by Biden?  It’s not like trump would use the threat of troops or that Putin would believe him if he did. 

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Likely means they are comfortable with the internal polling in NH, NE-02, MN and NV

This isn’t triage, this is moving ad money around from where it’s not really needed anymore

Bangor is in ME-02, that’s the only “reach” area here, though denying Trump that 1 EV would be delicious 

 

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Cygnal (GOP firm)

52.5% of voters will vote on Election Day, 20.7% by mail, 23.7% early in-person

With a sample that was 39.4 R, 36.5 D and 22.2 indie-

Harris 49.4 favorable / 48.7 unfavorable

Trump 47.1 / 51.5

Vance 45.4 / 45.0

Walz 47.0 / 42.5

Race is 47.2 Harris, 44.5 Trump in the full ballot and 50.3 Harris, 47.0 Trump

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6 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:


Duh. When people tell you who they are and EXACTLY what they’ll do….believe them.
Any minority voting for Trump is so stupid they absolutely deserve the fucking they’re going to get under him.

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4 hours ago, Hornius Emeritus said:


I don't think that's true. From Wiki:  The Logan Act (1 Stat. 613, 18 U.S.C. § 953, enacted January 30, 1799) is a United States federal law that criminalizes the negotiation of a dispute between the United States and a foreign government by an unauthorized American citizen. The intent behind the Act is to prevent unauthorized negotiations from undermining the government's position.

So if Trump wasn't negotiating a dispute, it would appear he's free to talk to whomever he wants.

The actual language is as follows:

Any citizen of the United States, wherever he may be, who, without authority of the United States, directly or indirectly commences or carries on any correspondence or intercourse with any foreign government or any officer or agent thereof, with intent to influence the measures or conduct of any foreign government or of any officer or agent thereof, in relation to any disputes or controversies with the United States, or to defeat the measures of the United States, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both.

This section shall not abridge the right of a citizen to apply, himself or his agent, to any foreign government or the agents thereof for redress of any injury which he may have sustained from such government or any of its agents or subjects.

It is legitimately thought that the wording is so broad as to encompass many expressions or communications protected by the First Amendment, such that the entire statute is unconstitutional or that it is unconstitutional as applied to many of the situations about which we fantasize prosecutions.

For example, the term "controversies" is used elsewhere in the Constitution, notably Article III, which extends the jurisdiction of US federal courts to "cases" and "controversies."  Those have been interpreted to mean something actual, not theoretical, hypothetical, or "made up."  US involvement in Ukraine probably constitutes a controversy.  Just about any matter concerning US-Russia relations, about which people disagree, probably constitutes a controversy.

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4 hours ago, Podrick's Magic Cock said:

Twenty years ago, Howard Dean screamed and was labeled too much of a hot head to be president.  Now, an open traitor is allowed to run for the office?  What..the...fuck?

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18 minutes ago, Js1 said:

Why? They won’t listen or care

Billie Eilish comes out today and says she’s voting for Harris because she’ll feel safe as a woman in America. Immediate responses: what about the women in Gaza and Lebanon?

You can be concerned with Gaza and Lebanon (as most are), but these people will be fine with American women, minorities and LGBTQ becoming second or third class citizens because they care more what’s happening half a world away 

Every shred of my being except one wants Trump to lose.  That one was watching what happens to these asshats if Trump gets elected.

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50 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

The actual language is as follows:

Any citizen of the United States, wherever he may be, who, without authority of the United States, directly or indirectly commences or carries on any correspondence or intercourse with any foreign government

 

This was not going to go unnoticed.  This isn't 'Nam.  There are rules.

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Because I don't follow nutjob accounts, I had to look this one up:

Tayler Hansen

 

Taylor Hansen is a self-identified field reporter and host for Tenent Media. His coverage of has included of reports alleging child abuse at drag shows, claims of "anti-white racism" at a university and several stories defending Jan. 6 insurrectionists and championing Ashli Babbitt, who was fatally shot storming the capital.

His Tenet bio boasts that Tayler’s work "has been shared by the 45th President Of The United States on numerous occasions."

 

More about the Indictment against this tool of Russian progaganda

 

One is a staunch Trump supporter who interviewed the former president on his podcast, another's career has been marked by repeated scandals including plagiarism at BuzzFeed, and another is a Canadian alt-right commentator who has been demonetized by YouTube.

They're among six conservative personalities who are the heart of a scandal accusing a Tennessee-based media company of being a mouthpiece for Russian propagandists trying to spread misinformation in the U.S.

In a Department of Justice indictment unsealed Wednesday, Russian state media company RT is accused of bankrolling a $10 million campaign through a company that was not named but is an exact match for Tennessee-based Tenet Media.

Specifically, RT is accused of sowing political confusion and division in the U.S. and distributing Russian misinformation via U.S. social media influencers on TikTok, Instagram, X and YouTube. The more than 2,000 videos posted by Tenet in the last 10 months have been viewed more than 16 million times on YouTube alone, according to the indictment.

Tenet Media produced content with six main far-right commentators serving as creators, hosts, influencers and information disseminators, five Americans and one Canadian. As of Thursday, most have released statements denying any knowledge of the alleged plot.

Here's what to know about Tenet Media's main six: Tim Pool, Benny Johnson, Dave Rubin, Tayler Hansen, Matt Christiansen and Lauren Southern.

 

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2024/09/05/tenet-media-indictment-who-are-six-influencers/75085221007/

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