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2024 Presidential Election Thread - Let's keep the party going.


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These bad polls are no different than UMich Voter dude retweeting the Nevada ballot return numbers that don't include Reno or Las Vegas, considering Clark (Biden +9) and Washoe (Biden +4) decide who wins NV, not the tiny rural counties. 

A lot of bad faith engagement to get clicks.  People from both sides are doing it because we've decided being popular and getting clicks is more important than accurately reporting on our election. 

 

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6 minutes ago, SydneyCarton said:

I wouldn't characterize it as complaining. I wont speak for JS1, but his resposnes are usually skepticism becuase the results he see don't match other data points, and don't match actual results we've seen since 2020. That's my interpretation of his thoughts based on my own reactions to interacting with him on this topic several times. I will speak for myself and say, I'm not complaining. It's more like expressing ass-puckering terror that the pollsters have figured some things out and the fucking polling is correct. 

Everyone around here felt pretty confident about a Biden win in 2020, and we ended up twisted in anxiety for a couple fucking weeks afterward becuase it was way fucking closer than polls indicated. Since then, we've seen the polls be way off in favor of Democrats. I don't think anyone can feel overwhelmingly confident considering the stakes in this election, and people are just venting, rationalizing, or doing whatever. 

But I wouldn't characterize it as complaining. 

Fair enough. Thanks for the expansion. No insults intended to anyone. 

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1 minute ago, Hank Kingsley said:

I was in Trumpistan (Katy) yesterday playing golf, and near the practice green heard two old men talking about Doug Emhoff cheating on his first wife and how disgusted they were by it. LOL. 

Can't wait for this election to be over with. 

 

How the fuck could you have not said something? "Hey guys, curious about how you feel about Trump cheating on every wife he's ever had, one of which paying a porn star while his wife was pregnant? Disgusting by that too?" 

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Just now, SydneyCarton said:

How the fuck could you have not said something? "Hey guys, curious about how you feel about Trump cheating on every wife he's ever had, one of which paying a porn star while his wife was pregnant? Disgusting by that too?" 

You should see me putt. Much more important thing for me to worry about. 

 

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Obama made a great point that he handed a great economy to Trump who then ran it into the ground. Obviously Trump had Covid in the second half of his term, which is unlucky, but you have to play the cards your dealt. And he failed his biggest test.

We’ve been missing an explainer-in-chief this election cycle at the very top for the Dems.  Biden can’t explain shit clearly and Harris is playing a bit of whack a mole in dodging interviews. However there is a good argument that many are doing well in this economy but Dems are afraid to admit it.

dont know why a Dem isn’t saying that inflation was the unfortunate, expected, result of Covid financial mgmt. which is a combo of Biden AND Trump. Our inflation was the lowest of all western countries. Biden and Harris should be bragging about the last 4 years. And that the work needs to continued and completed. Of course Biden and then Harris chose a lane this election and now are stuck in it. 

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1 minute ago, Pato del Muerto said:

Well it’s a world of intergalactic travel via light speed, so I figure that plane and helmet easily have a weapons guidance system capable of hitting a target a couple meters wide with no drama. 

The fucking video game had better technology.

 

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Lots of reasons to be bummed if Trump wins but I'm kind of ashamed to admit that I honestly think the biggest one is that the trials won't go forward. 

I think that should be a campaign issue.  Walz should be out there talking about how much fun it would be to see the trials going forward and how we will all miss out if they don't.

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1 minute ago, The Original Greaser Bob said:

Lots of reasons to be bummed if Trump wins but I'm kind of ashamed to admit that I honestly think the biggest one is that the trials won't go forward. 

I think that should be a campaign issue.  Walz should be out there talking about how much fun it would be to see the trials going forward and how we will all miss out if they don't.

His legal "issues" (80 something felony counts, 34 convictions?) have certainly not been a point of emphasis. Even Obama's "WTF are we doing?" speech last night didn't really hit on that. 

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1 hour ago, Biff Tannen said:

I'm pretty shocked the Cards Against Humanity people are anti-trump, to be honest.  Good on em.

I was surprised as well when I learned this. They bought land on the border near SpaceX during the Trump administration using crowdsourced funds in order to block border wall construction. SpaceX has been trespassing on that land using it as a staging area for construction. They recently sued SpaceX and Elon and have said they will distribute any proceeds of the lawsuit to the users that provided crowdsource funds.

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1 minute ago, Red Five said:

His legal "issues" (80 something felony counts, 34 convictions?) have certainly not been a point of emphasis. Even Obama's "WTF are we doing?" speech last night didn't really hit on that. 

I think the problem is that the convictions are a plus for MAGA.  My theory is that we need to be pushing how it would be "fun" to continue the trial.  And how we won't get to see Jack Smith smiling for the camera every week or so.

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2 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

Let's be very clear about Trump's economy:  he promised to wipe out the national debt in 8 years.  In the first 3 years of his administration, the debt ROSE by ~ $5T, which had nothing to do with the covid pandemic.  Color me skeptical that he was going to turn around a debt 25% higher than what he inherited in the next 5 years.  

I don't know why Democrats cannot message this better.

Well everything gets immediately screamed down as SOCIALISM!!!!! and the media just goes along with it by constantly asking “how will you pay for it?”

I have not seen one person ask Trump how he’s paying for a $1T domestic deportation force 

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2 minutes ago, wildcat09 said:

 

 

Who knew that women would remember something that happened two years ago?

Just now, Js1 said:

Well everything gets immediately screamed down as SOCIALISM!!!!! and the media just goes along with it by constantly asking “how will you pay for it?”

I have not seen one person ask Trump how he’s paying for a $1T domestic deportation force 

By putting a tariff on illegal immigrants. Duh.

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4 minutes ago, HenryJames said:

Who knew that women would remember something that happened two years ago?

Can’t be Dobbs. JD Vance said women don’t care about abortion 

Just now, royiv said:

This is a tired trope that needs to die. She’s being doing interviews left and right for the last two weeks with a bunch more scheduled including the CNN town hall. 

She just did 4 this week!

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55 minutes ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

dont know why a Dem isn’t saying that inflation was the unfortunate, expected, result of Covid financial mgmt. which is a combo of Biden AND Trump. Our inflation was the lowest of all western countries. Biden and Harris should be bragging about the last 4 years. And that the work needs to continued and completed.

I tend to presume that people like Harris and Biden are reasonably smart and are backed by folks even smarter, and if they aren’t picking a particular line of rhetoric it’s because it can’t be boiled down to something easy to convey to a low information voter.  
 

Also, “aren’t you glad you don’t live in France?  Hamburger prices are even worse there!” just lacks panache.  

15 minutes ago, The Original Greaser Bob said:

Lots of reasons to be bummed if Trump wins but I'm kind of ashamed to admit that I honestly think the biggest one is that the trials won't go forward.

And on this note, this is where I admit my own presumptions about election strategy beg to second guess the Harris campaign.  It’s also an area where I feel Obama was the weakest-when you are in the clear right side of something you’ve got to beat that case into the minds of thick headed voters.  Persuadability is about moving between areas of gray, and electing a felon is clear black and white. 

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1 minute ago, WelfareBuysMyWeed said:

my dad donated $30 to the galveston county democratic party. I cannot say enough how surreal this is, not just that he's actually donating to a political party, but that is the democrats at that! My dad was an apathetic republican by default for decades, voting was just a rote ritual for him where he'd go and check the republican downticket without even knowing who was running. He grew up in the era of dixiecrats in jim crow era houston where his deeply brown ass couldn't go into whites only washrooms and stuff. The Republicans hitching their wagon to Donald Trump will ultimately backfire when examined through the lens of history, because this is a generational shift. They are driving away a previously pacified base and giving them a reason to pay attention, which does not favor the republicans one bit.

Is this real?

In what world, how, when, did a deeply brown guy wind up an "apathetic republican"?  

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35 minutes ago, Pato del Muerto said:

Well it’s a world of intergalactic travel via light speed, so I figure that plane and helmet easily have a weapons guidance system capable of hitting a target a couple meters wide with no drama. 

It was still on the womp rat calibration setting 

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