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4 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

Dave Bautista can be Kamala’s stand-in.

Or Tim Walz - maybe he’s packing like Garry from Parks and Rec.

Or she can win by default when he doesn't show up.  That narcissist ain't gonna take a 2.8 inches to 0.0 inches victory when he can just tell everybody he's packing a trunk and half of this moronic country will believe him.

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5 minutes ago, Mdhorn said:

Great. Did she sound articulate, quick on her feet and thoughtful?  I bet she did. All the while he’s outside screaming potato, but it’s important to reach these people and somehow get them to actually hear her, which they’ve been actively avoiding. He’ll still scream potato while the media talks about his love for the quality vegetables from labor and knowledge of cultivation—a real man of the earth and pro farmer. It’s almost like the media does his talking for him. She can interview wherever, different rules man.  

But maybe she can convince a few that she’s not scary or looking to destroy their teetering livelihood of bad decisions. Whatever, a simple interview on any media can give them that same insight. How many Aggie minds do you think she changed? How about west Texas types? Independents that can actually stomach Fox?  Based on nothing, I’d guess that liberals watching specifically to see how she’d do is a large part of that audience. Few come away from almost voting for a cult with whew, till that Fox interview I was going to vote for potato. 

7 million people watched, which means 7 million potential people chopping up clips and throwing them online. And what do you know, there are now numerous clips which have been all fucking over social media which reaches beyond the normal fox news audience. Stupid, stupid undecided voters will see her on FAIR AND BALANCED FOX NEWS and watch her call them out on doctoring Trump's responses and admire her strong appearance and how she didn't let the reporter bully her and will be swayed. Nobody who wasn't a trump loving dipshit watched the clips from that interview and thought "Wow, Trump is where it's at!"

The interview was great strategy. You doomers have shit for brains and think small.

 

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Siap been out today and this thread moves fast…

on the not great news front Ralston is starting his deep dive on Nevada and thinks Harris is in danger based on shrinking dem adv in registration. He’s currently saying Harris needs to win independents by 3 pts, Biden won em by 6 for reference. 

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Posted
2 hours ago, Francisco 2.0 said:

"The hard way"

 

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"We can do it the nice way, or the hard way!

Yikes. Donald sounding like Fleece Johnson, Booty Warrior.

 

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Posted
5 minutes ago, bluto said:

He’s currently saying Harris needs to win independents by 3 pts

That sounds extremely doable 

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Posted
3 minutes ago, Js1 said:

That sounds extremely doable 

The difference in strategy is fascinating. Republicans: "We have this in the bag. We are most definitely winning." Hell Trump is saying out loud "We don't need any more votes." 

Dems: "Looking grim guys. Gonna need a minor miracle, like getting fewer independents in Nevada than Biden got in 2020." 

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7 minutes ago, Js1 said:

That sounds extremely doable 

I’d like to understand what else changed. Nevada was fairly close, Biden won 6% of independents. Hard to see Harris doing worse, but ok. 
 

weird the extensive GOTV network in Nevada, which didn’t knock doors in 2020 thanks to COVID isn’t getting more positive numbers than Biden got…

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2 minutes ago, SydneyCarton said:

I’d like to understand what else changed. Nevada was fairly close, Biden won 6% of independents. Hard to see Harris doing worse, but ok. 
 

weird the extensive GOTV network in Nevada, which didn’t knock doors in 2020 thanks to COVID isn’t getting more positive numbers than Biden got…

Ralston also is an overreaction guy early. His constant “we matter” is 100% to keep getting clicks. 

 

7 minutes ago, Red Five said:

The difference in strategy is fascinating. Republicans: "We have this in the bag. We are most definitely winning." Hell Trump is saying out loud "We don't need any more votes." 

Dems: "Looking grim guys. Gonna need a minor miracle, like getting fewer independents in Nevada than Biden got in 2020." 

Yeah I’m not a Democratic bedwetter 

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32 minutes ago, bluto said:

Siap been out today and this thread moves fast…

on the not great news front Ralston is starting his deep dive on Nevada and thinks Harris is in danger based on shrinking dem adv in registration. He’s currently saying Harris needs to win independents by 3 pts, Biden won em by 6 for reference. 

I remember Carville saying he wouldn't be surprised if the R's won NV and the D's won NC and that was a a few months ago.

 

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Posted
7 minutes ago, HenryJames said:

Someone named Adolfo Franco supports Trump?!?!

Gotdammit.

I was going to say "Who woulda thunk a guy named Adolph Franco would support a fascist?" 

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Posted
1 hour ago, ConferenceRoom said:

Tojo was the asshole, anyway. 

They all were, the emperor getting away with it was a mistake, but by then the cold war had started.

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6 hours ago, Jatrain said:

Actually, his full name is Adolfo Benito Franco.  

Couldn't they find Admiral Horthy Salazar de Schuschnigg?

(Kurt Schuschnigg of course being an original member of the Leopards Eating Peoples' Faces Party....)

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Posted
5 hours ago, tx ind said:

Infuriating that the media waits until under 3 weeks until the election to bring up dotard's mental acuity.

Infuriating, yes, but perhaps accidentally, advantageous timing.  If they start hammering on this 2.5 weeks before election day, it might peal a few thousand swing state votes away.  

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Posted
11 hours ago, Hank Kingsley said:

Silent Trump voters in 2016 surprised most of us  and he won the election. 

I am optimistic there's a significant number of silent Anti-Trump voters who will help make sure he never sees the Oval Office again. 

 

 

 

I'd be willing to bet that a bunch of voters were so turned off by the candidates that they weren't really silent, but didn't make a decision until they actually pulled the lever.  Same reason Gary Johnson caught a lot of votes.

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10 hours ago, Js1 said:

Um it’s big crypto money (and foreign money) betting on Trump and then believing he’s now the favorite, or trying to convince people he’s the favorite.  Do you think the average Democrat is betting on politics?

Betting markets for elections are so fucking stupid.  

I mean, bettors make stupid bets most of the time.  But sports bets are less stupid than political bets.  A moron can gather information on a sports team by watching them and by paying attention to injury reports.

None of them know shit about elections and those that do aren't likely betting.

The other possibility is that bettors represent the electorate, if there are enough of them.  There aren't.

Posted
47 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

I'd be willing to bet that a bunch of voters were so turned off by the candidates that they weren't really silent, but didn't make a decision until they actually pulled the lever.  Same reason Gary Johnson caught a lot of votes.

Yes. 2016 saw the largest third party candidate performance since Ross Perot in 1992. In 2016, I was in Texas and I voted Gary Johnson for three reasons. First, no way in fucking hell I was voting for Trump. Second, I had my own issues with Hillary that had everything to do with my own interpretation of her lack of self respect staying with a husband that repeatedly cheated on her. And third, I knew Texas would go Red (even if every third party voter in Texas voted for Hillary, it would not have been enough to swing Texas in 2016), so my vote was always just a protest vote. I really was apathetic to both choices we had, so I went with the third option. 

 

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1 hour ago, PenelopeWitherspoon said:

Yes. 2016 saw the largest third party candidate performance since Ross Perot in 1992. In 2016, I was in Texas and I voted Gary Johnson for three reasons. First, no way in fucking hell I was voting for Trump. Second, I had my own issues with Hillary that had everything to do with my own interpretation of her lack of self respect staying with a husband that repeatedly cheated on her. And third, I knew Texas would go Red (even if every third party voter in Texas voted for Hillary, it would not have been enough to swing Texas in 2016), so my vote was always just a protest vote. I really was apathetic to both choices we had, so I went with the third option. 

 

Misogyny or propaganda, that was my fundamental issue with Hillary. Everything about her seemed to be calculated to accrue power. She was like a lifetime politician that never held office until Bill was done. 

I admit to a certain naivete and idealism in this respect.  But I distrusted Biden and Harris for similar reasons.  And Grassley and the list goes on.

ETA: I was fully ready to write in one of my cats in 2016, until I found out Texas doesn't permit write-ins.  Gizmo would have made an excellent President.

 

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11 hours ago, bluto said:

Siap been out today and this thread moves fast…

on the not great news front Ralston is starting his deep dive on Nevada and thinks Harris is in danger based on shrinking dem adv in registration. He’s currently saying Harris needs to win independents by 3 pts, Biden won em by 6 for reference. 

That shrinking Dem reg advantage got a massive shot in the arm back in July, and those new registrants are going to vote bigly for Kamala.

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Yes. 2016 saw the largest third party candidate performance since Ross Perot in 1992. In 2016, I was in Texas and I voted Gary Johnson for three reasons. First, no way in fucking hell I was voting for Trump. Second, I had my own issues with Hillary that had everything to do with my own interpretation of her lack of self respect staying with a husband that repeatedly cheated on her. And third, I knew Texas would go Red (even if every third party voter in Texas voted for Hillary, it would not have been enough to swing Texas in 2016), so my vote was always just a protest vote. I really was apathetic to both choices we had, so I went with the third option. 
 

Hi. This was me. The Democrats could have run ANYONE other than Clinton and I think they would have won. We had 40 years of a Bush / Clinton in higher place of Government. Trump was a hell no. The pot smoking mountain climber seemed like an OK choice.
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Posted
48 minutes ago, Pancho said:

Politico: turnip advisor says he’s “exhausted” and refusing some interviews.

 

https://www.politico.com/newsletters/playbook/2024/10/18/trumps-media-backout-00184324?nname=playbook&nid=0000014f-1646-d88f-a1cf-5f46b7bd0000&nrid=0000014e-f0fd-dd93-ad7f-f8fde5bf0000&nlid=630318

 

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NO SHADE — Recently, it’s become something of a pattern: Trump is scheduled for an interview with a neutral media outlet, the date nears and then … things fall apart.

It happened just this week to planned Trump sit-downs with NBC in Philadelphia and CNBC’s “Squawk Box” — and that’s on the heels of him backing out of a “60 Minutes” episode earlier this month.

Why does this keep happening? Playbook has learned that yet another outlet was given an explanation by Trump’s team for why their own interview wasn’t coming to fruition: exhaustion.

The Trump campaign had been in conversations for weeks with The Shade Room about a sit-down interview. The site, which draws an audience that is largely young and Black, hosted an interview with Harris just last week.

 

 

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But as no interview materialized, Shade Room staff began feeling that feet were being dragged inside Trump’s campaign. No date was ever set, we’re told, but the intention was to try and work toward a sit-down.

In a conversation earlier this week, when describing why an interview hadn’t come together just yet, a Trump adviser told The Shade Room producers that Trump was “exhausted and refusing [some] interviews but that could change” at any time, according to two people familiar with the conversations.

To make up for a lack of a Trump interview this close to the election, those two people say Trump-supporting rapper WAKA FLOCKA FLAME was offered up as an alternative.

 

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Trump’s national press secretary KAROLINE LEAVITT, while making clear she wasn’t part of the back and forth for The Shade Room interview, told Playbook last night that the idea that Trump was exhausted “is unequivocally false.”

“President Trump is running laps around Kamala Harris on the campaign trail,” Leavitt said. “And has done media interviews every day this week. He has more energy and a harder work ethic than anyone in politics.”

Trump’s team points out that he has constantly done interviews — which is fair, but we’d hasten to add that many of them are with friendly hosts or on friendly networks.

 

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As for the one contentious interview he did this week, with Bloomberg editor-in-chief John Micklethwait, Trump later complained that he was “hoodwinked to go on that. I was supposed to make a speech in front of the Chicago Economic Club, which is a big deal. It’s a very prestigious place, everything was beautiful. And all of a sudden I understand I’m being interviewed by this gentleman and he’s got a reputation.”

As you can imagine, the Trump team had some more major pushback for the aforementioned canceled interviews:

CBS’ “60 Minutes”: The campaign still maintains that the newsmagazine’s live fact-checking was “inappropriate and unnecessary” and stands by pulling out.

CNBC’s “Squawk Box”: A campaign official told us last night that a campaign adviser leading the conversations with CNBC was a “little too hot to try to commit, not realizing that we were adding a full day in Michigan on the calendar, which of course is taking place tomorrow.” (We’d note that Trump will be doing “Fox and Friends” this morning just blocks away from where CNBC shoots.)

The NBC interview: The official told us that “NBC was supposed to be a walk and talk at a retail engagement. We were running behind. … So unfortunately, it was removed from the calendar.” 

As for the notion that Trump is canceling media appearances? “That’s B.S.,” says Leavitt. “President Trump has never backed down from any interview. This is a man who held a CNN town hall in the middle of the Republican primary, for goodness’ sake.”

 

 

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