2024 Presidential Election Thread - Let's keep the party going.

[dcbc 14,465]

I voted first thing this morning.  Pretty good line, but I got there during a brief lull and was in-and-out in less than 15 minutes.  The "voted" stickers are swanky this year.

[South Austin 52,454]

4 minutes ago, aggie08 said:

Js1's job on Surly from now until election day: 

Counterpoint:  Brisket's job from now until election day:

[LTbear 4,168]

Voted. Sadly Montana is going the wrong direction.

[Thatguy 8,681]

3 hours ago, Hawndoh said:

Disagree. The middle class is not interested in saving anything and programs and policies don't work because the middle class has a culture problem. Plenty in the middle class could save and build wealth like years past, but they would rather get the giant truck they don't need, the 5000 square foot house they don't need, 3 kids all on travel youth sports teams, etc.

Why save money when that doesn't get any engagement on Instagram?

The middle class struggles because they are stupid with their money. Not because of a lack of opportunities.

In Texas, if the schools are good, the house zoned to them is likely 5k sq ft. A Kia Telluride is 50k to start. Might as well get that big truck. Well equipped Burbin is right at 100k. If you don't put your kid in travel sports, in most places they won't even make the school team. It's serious bidness.

Bottom line though. Middle classers used to all the same keepin up with the Joneses, and off of one income.

[Jive Turkey 12,594]

12 minutes ago, Js1 said:

 

Enten is usually a big doomer too (hence why he's on CNN, because they love that shit)

If Harris loses a small amount of black/Hispanic support, but offsets it why winning back some WWC voters, this is a big reason why Dems overperformed the polling in 2022 in the rust belt, compared to the Sun Belt, and probably why she's favored in MI/PA/WI

Can we give Walz any credit for this?  This seems to be the demo that he's going after and connecting with, especially in the Blue Wall states.  

[Js1 85,286]

1 minute ago, Jive Turkey said:

Can we give Walz any credit for this?  This seems to be the demo that he's going after and connecting with, especially in the Blue Wall states.  

We should.  This is his demo - he represented these types of voters in Congress.  

[Brisketexan 105,073]

8 minutes ago, South Austin said:

Counterpoint:  Brisket's job from now until election day:

You're not wrong.

I keep thinking something that is probably the motto of most Surlyites' wives: "I just wish this would be over already."

But I also keep thinking something that most Surlyites' wives NEVER think: "This is taking forever."

[Gap03 3,303]

I guess the Blacks for Trump squad didn't make it to Latrobe ...

 

[aggie08 21,491]

Oh shit, a McDonald's appearance AND Antonio Brown?? How are the Dems going to complete? #killshot

[Js1 85,286]

1 minute ago, aggie08 said:

Oh shit, a McDonald's appearance AND Antonio Brown?? How are the Dems going to complete? #killshot

Make America Healthy Again!

*Sends Trump to do a fake photo-op at a fast food restaurant

*Brings in some guy with CTE

[PhillyD 1,257]

Anyone seen JD Vance lately?  Did the campaign lock him up in a sofa warehouse?

[YChang 3,443]

Done and dusted... not as cool as Michigan's werewolve tearing its clothes off but still more fun than the generic sticker.

[Aqua Buddha 14,582]

27 minutes ago, Js1 said:

 

Enten is usually a big doomer too (hence why he's on CNN, because they love that shit)

If Harris loses a small amount of black/Hispanic support, but offsets it why winning back some WWC voters, this is a big reason why Dems overperformed the polling in 2022 in the rust belt, compared to the Sun Belt, and probably why she's favored in MI/PA/WI

Carville made a really good point the other day.  (He's still one of the best, really.)

He said that if some of the polls are to be believed (which he doesn't), Trump and the R's are making marginal gains among some minority groups, particularly with men.  However, he said that's more than offset by gains for Harris and the D's among the whites, particularly the college educated block.  That combined with that poll above might back that up.  His final point was that whites make up like 2/3 of the electorate so just a few points either way is much more impactful than even a double digit swing among these other groups, especially factoring in the voting turnout among those respective groups.

He predicted 2024 might the Year of the White Vote for the Democrats and that's something he thought he'd never say.

[RichUT 1,832]

I was in line behind maybe 35 people at 6:50 and done by 7:15. 

Fuck Donald Trump.

Edited October 21 by RichUT

[Biff Tannen 45,665]

13 minutes ago, PhillyD said:

Anyone seen JD Vance lately?  Did the campaign lock him up in a sofa warehouse?

This.  He's been conspicuously absent since the VP debate.

[dcbc 14,465]

2 hours ago, South Austin said:

Oh, and @dcbc, I just printed a sample ballot, and like city council races, there is no "D" or "R" next to the school board candidates' name.  So I'll have check on those candidates' party affiliations.  

That's strange.  I wonder why that is?

[C-Man 27,194]

‘Central Park Five’ members sue Trump for defamation after his debate comments on 1989 case

https://www.cnn.com/2024/10/21/politics/central-park-five-trump-defamation/index.html

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Members of the “Central Park Five” sued former President Donald Trump on Monday over “false and defamatory” statements they allege he made about their 1989 case during a presidential debate last month.

The five men claim in a 20-page federal lawsuit that Trump knew he was acting with “reckless disregard” for the truth when he said during the September debate with Vice President Kamala Harris that they pleaded guilty to crimes connected to the beating and raping a woman in New York City, and that the five teenagers “badly hurt a person, killed a person” in the attack.

“Defendant Trump’s statements were false and defamatory in numerous respects,” attorneys for the men, now all in their 50s, wrote in the lawsuit filed in federal court in Philadelphia. “Plaintiffs never pled guilty to the Central Park assaults. Plaintiffs all pled not guilty and maintained their innocence throughout their trial and incarceration, as well as after they were released from prison.”

“None of the victims of the Central Park assaults were killed,” the attorneys wrote.

CNN has reached out to Trump representatives for comment.

The men are seeking compensatory and punitive damages. The suit also claims that Trump’s comments placed them in a false light and caused them to “suffer severe emotional distress.”

The group was pressured into giving false confessions in the case. They were exonerated in 2002 when DNA evidence linked another person to the crime. The teenagers sued the city, and the case was settled in 2014.

 

[South Austin 52,454]

Just now, dcbc said:

That's strange.  I wonder why that is?

Do the council and school board candidates in East Texas have party affiliations on the ballots?  

[4th&Five 41,517]

i was voter #456 at bee cave city hall.  took 15 minutes but the line doubled while i was there. fuck trump and fuck cruz.

[BehoId, The Underminer! 11,669]

1 minute ago, C-Man said:

‘Central Park Five’ members sue Trump for defamation after his debate comments on 1989 case

https://www.cnn.com/2024/10/21/politics/central-park-five-trump-defamation/index.html

 

be interesting to see what they have to say about the statute of limitations.

[Js1 85,286]

1 minute ago, South Austin said:

Do the council and school board candidates in East Texas have party affiliations on the ballots?  

City council and school board races are supposed to be nonpartisan, I believe. So yeah, I guess it tracks but they’ll be endorsed by the local parties. Or look out for the ones endorsed by Moms 4 Liberty 

Edited October 21 by Js1

[Valmy77 13,225]

Yeah the council, mayor, school board are all supposed to be non-partisan even though they absolutely are...some dangerously fringe. You need to research those most of all...and of course there is the least amount out there to help you.

[cactusflinthead 27,598]

I'm trying to not get excited. 

I guess I can go look at Ted Cruz' smug smackable visage. That's usually enough to quell any enthusiasm.

[Js1 85,286]

https://bluevoterguide.org/district/TX/Round_Rock_Independent_School_District/19618/140

[dcbc 14,465]

Just now, South Austin said:

Do the council and school board candidates in East Texas have party affiliations on the ballots?  

I don't know.  If I had to guess, I'd guess they all are R, even the ones who I know for a fact are D.  There wasn't anything local on my ballot today.  Smaller town.  So I'm guessing my school board rep wasn't up for re-election.  Other than President, mostly judges, other state offices, and reps today.  

[South Austin 52,454]

1 minute ago, C-Man said:

‘Central Park Five’ members sue Trump for defamation after his debate comments on 1989 case

https://www.cnn.com/2024/10/21/politics/central-park-five-trump-defamation/index.html

Good for them.  "Central Park Five" is one of my favorite all-time documentaries.  I watched it again recently, and it's still enraging and haunting at how our justice system completely fucked with those kids' lives.  Trump used his celebrity currency to fan those flames, and he was every bit an enabler.  Among the many things that piece of shit has done in his life, a big "fuck you" for that one. 

My heart still aches for those five men.  

[South Austin 52,454]

3 minutes ago, BehoId, The Underminer! said:

be interesting to see what they have to say about the statute of limitations.

There shouldn't be a limitations issue, because the article says they are suing over Trump's comments in September, not his newspaper add or other remarks during the trial.

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The five men claim in a 20-page federal lawsuit that Trump knew he was acting with “reckless disregard” for the truth when he said during the September debate with Vice President Kamala Harris that they pleaded guilty to crimes connected to the beating and raping a woman in New York City, and that the five teenagers “badly hurt a person, killed a person” in the attack.

“Defendant Trump’s statements were false and defamatory in numerous respects,” attorneys for the men, now all in their 50s, wrote in the lawsuit filed in federal court in Philadelphia. “Plaintiffs never pled guilty to the Central Park assaults. Plaintiffs all pled not guilty and maintained their innocence throughout their trial and incarceration, as well as after they were released from prison.”

“None of the victims of the Central Park assaults were killed,” the attorneys wrote.

 

[Kyrie Eleison 9,312]

[Bojack 2,074]

10 minutes ago, South Austin said:

Do the council and school board candidates in East Texas have party affiliations on the ballots?  

I know they don't in Spurger. I don't know about the rest of East Texas. I hope that helps.

[Thatguy 8,681]

30 minutes ago, Gap03 said:

I guess the Blacks for Trump squad didn't make it to Latrobe ...

 

Antonio Brown makes me wonder if white folks have someone who is equally as embarrassing to that community as he is to ours. Brown is the purest form of Coonin there is. 

[Beantown Express 2.0 6,559]

1 minute ago, Thatguy said:

Antonio Brown makes me wonder if white folks have someone who is equally as embarrassing to that community as he is to ours. Brown is the purest form of Coonin there is. 

Yeah.  His name is Donald Trump.

[C-Man 27,194]

12 minutes ago, BehoId, The Underminer! said:

be interesting to see what they have to say about the statute of limitations.

They're suing him for his comments in the Harris debate last month.

[Gatorubet 30,185]

Donald will defame them again in his angry public response to receiving the lawsuit.  

I expect an amended complaint within a week or two. 

[Pato del Muerto 52,485]

Dropped my ballot in the drop box this morning on the way to work. Don’t get a sticker for doing it that way though.  Did sign up for text updates to be sure it gets accepted. 

[Js1 85,286]

Then how will everyone on social media know you voted without the sticker???

[Brisketexan 105,073]

The boy got his ballot in Germany.  Filling it out and express mailing it today or tomorrow.  I told him we'd cover the extra postage cost -- don't fuck around, and get it sent.

I have a Dr. appointment this afternoon.  There's a polling place nearby.  I may vote in the middle of the day, figure the lines will be short.

[Pato del Muerto 52,485]

2 minutes ago, Js1 said:

Then how will everyone on social media know you voted without the sticker???

Well sir, I don’t do social media except here (which is more of an anti-social media). So of course I told all of you. Job done. 

Edited October 21 by Pato del Muerto

[locodos 5,387]

17 minutes ago, Thatguy said:

Antonio Brown makes me wonder if white folks have someone who is equally as embarrassing to that community as he is to ours. Brown is the purest form of Coonin there is. 

[South Austin 52,454]

3 minutes ago, Pato del Muerto said:

Well sir, I don’t do social media except here (which is more of an anti-social media). So of course I told all of you. Job done. 

I'll help you out and post on Facebook that Pato del Muerto from the internet voted today.  

[hookemATL 11,704]

15 minutes ago, Thatguy said:

purest form of Coonin

As a delegate of the HCC (Honky Cracker Coalition), can you please 1) describe this term and 2) notate if this term is to be used only by the black community?

[Scheiss Meister 8,407]

My wife had a lab appointment this morning, so we thought we'd have breakfast and vote afterwards.  Got to the only polling place in the southern part of the county (Brazos), and it was covered up.  Folks parking 1/4 mile away, long, long line covered up.  She has another appointment right after lunch, so we're going to try after that.

I've voted at this location for years, and I've never seen it this covered up, even in 2020.  This location went big for Biden in 2020, so I'm cautiously optimistic.

[Pato del Muerto 52,485]

2 minutes ago, South Austin said:

I'll help you out and post on Facebook that Pato del Muerto from the internet voted today.  

Good lookin out.  Your mother raised you well. I’ll be sure to tell her. 

[cactusflinthead 27,598]

4 minutes ago, Scheiss Meister said:

Folks parking 1/4 mile away, long, long line covered up

I told you I am trying to not get all fired up

[Scheiss Meister 8,407]

2 minutes ago, cactusflinthead said:

I told you I am trying to not get all fired up

Cautiously optimistic.  No more; certainly no less.

[The Dog 44,019]

41 minutes ago, Js1 said:

https://bluevoterguide.org/district/TX/Round_Rock_Independent_School_District/19618/140

The two crazies who tried to keep the budget from being passed - Bone and Weston - aren't on the ballot. Bone ran for state board of education and lost in the primary. Not sure if Weston even ran again. 

[safe sex 11,697]

1 hour ago, YChang said:

Done and dusted... not as cool as Michigan's werewolve tearing its clothes off but still more fun than the generic sticker.

I didn't get a cute choice, wtf!

[TheStoicPaisano 9,922]

This > MOH to 45.

[TexEx15 17,509]

[HornOnTheBayou 8,918]

I tried to go vote during lunch. I drove by two polling places in eastern Travis County and both of them had huge lines out the door. I'll try again later this week. 

[Underdog 28,581]

1 hour ago, Gap03 said:

I guess the Blacks for Trump squad didn't make it to Latrobe ...