2024 Presidential Election Thread - Let's keep the party going.

[Evil Bill Obrien 3284]

6 hours ago, Hornius Emeritus said:

Wouldn't she be unrecognizable if she died in a ICE vehicle explosion, too?

I’m guessing no one has told Donald about what happens when Teslas crash and the battery catches…

 

[Bullneck 19090]

7 hours ago, Gil Bang said:

My HS government teacher was the best fucking teacher I ever had, including college.  He got arrested a few years back for diddling his own granddaughters. 

He got you too?  Oh, noes!

[BurntOrange&White 39933]

6 hours ago, tx 3 putt said:

 

NB is hard core maga country

the local govt sucks donkey boner 

Time is ticking on that county though. 

[NorthLoop 14203]

NB is definitely maga country but they aren't advertising it this year. I've seen as many Harris signs as Trump ones lately. Very different than the last 2 elections. 

[LCHorn 2620]

6 hours ago, wood said:

Yep. I just thought the big, very sharp difference between SM and NB was interesting. There's no gradation at all. Just blue, then wham, red. What accounts for that? Is it the German factor that was talked about weeks ago?

That’s part of it, Big Sort and all. 

I also think that the old German pioneer, independent and yet community building spirit curdled into selfish NIMBY’ism.  The old German families resent the Mexican Americans that now outnumber them so the demographics are more like apartheid South Africa.  

The whole area is a really good example of the weakness of the state Democratic Party.  If they were capable of party buiding it would be a great candidate because the numbers are there.  

[tx ind 7013]

6 hours ago, C-Man said:

Wait, I missed this shit yesterday. This MF’er was given, accepted and kept a veteran’s Purple Heart?!?!

https://www.threads.net/@ronaldfilipkowski/post/DBfgTystLBB?xmt=AQGzkPfObqsAovaozifp_dHw8nF6sjic1uY2ghjrytBTcQ

As one of the comments said, that is next-level Boomer stupidity giving to turnip.

Add it to the wall of awards next to his McD frymaster pin 

[RomaVicta 29907]

11 hours ago, BevoAbyss said:

Last week dropped my ballot in the mailbox of my "liberal" big city metropolis. Voted straight D.

Came of political age in the 80s and never voted for Ronnie Raygun, HW, W, or the MAGA Fuhrer.

For the remainder of my life, I cannot fathom voting R on anything. Ever. 

When we could pull the straight ticket lever, I said something to Reagan every time I pulled it. "There you go, buddy." " Fuck you, Ronnie."
 

I probably voted for a few GOPs before that, but never since unless my political party, The Austin Chronicle, recommended that I do in some state or local race.

[locodos 5387]

12 minutes ago, LCHorn said:

That’s part of it, Big Sort and all. 

I also think that the old German pioneer, independent and yet community building spirit curdled into selfish NIMBY’ism.  The old German families resent the Mexican Americans that now outnumber them so the demographics are more like apartheid South Africa.  

That's some ironic shit, because the german pioneer families swore fealty to Mexico in exchange for land.

[Hank Kingsley 20939]

 

Edited October 25 by Hank Kingsley

[Caver60 395]

There's a lot of white flight from north and northeast San Antonio towards NB and Boerne and all points in between. And a whole lot of the people I know are moving/have moved into this belt at least in part because of its social and political conservatism. The whole area has been red for as long as I've been around it (~35 years). German Americans and others frequently fall into that category of R's that despise Trump but don't have the moxy to jump ship.

[Ted Lange 16085]

Edit to add full picture 

Edited October 25 by Ted Lange

[Dnaguy 11964]

13 minutes ago, Caver60 said:

There's a lot of white flight from north and northeast San Antonio towards NB and Boerne and all points in between. And a whole lot of the people I know are moving/have moved into this belt at least in part because of its social and political conservatism. The whole area has been red for as long as I've been around it (~35 years). German Americans and others frequently fall into that category of R's that despise Trump but don't have the moxy to jump ship.

Are you taking about white flight from Schertz, Selma, Universal City, Cibolo?

Interesting.

In regards to SA republicans and their German catholic origins, San Antonio has a fascinating political history.

If you go back, there were political alliances that bucked national trends and would be a fun ‘Yellowstone meets Centennial’ type of story if anyone ever wanted to make one. Freed African Americans allying with German Catholics that held together even after the national shift to the democratic party later in the 20th century. Hell there were rich ass cattle driving Jews as well! Crazy stuff.

[NorthLoop 14203]

21 minutes ago, Caver60 said:

There's a lot of white flight from north and northeast San Antonio towards NB and Boerne and all points in between. And a whole lot of the people I know are moving/have moved into this belt at least in part because of its social and political conservatism. The whole area has been red for as long as I've been around it (~35 years). German Americans and others frequently fall into that category of R's that despise Trump but don't have the moxy to jump ship.

Yeah NB has nearly doubled population in the last 10-15 years. The old guard German population is now a very small percentage of the town. They do have a lot of money though, and mostly vote red. These people aren't really German though other than their last names. Just typical old school small town elites. 

[SimonBolivar 10958]

San Marcos also has a college with around 40k students and all that revolves around that which separates it from NB.

[BevoAbyss 2059]

39 minutes ago, RomaVicta said:

"The Austin Chronicle"

Roma, you're bringing back some great memories! 

After finishing my Friday afternoon office hour as a TA in late 80s, I damn near always grabbed an Austin Chronicle.

-- Read it while at Texadelphia for cheesesteak/chips/salsa/iced tea and downing a couple of carafes of coffee at Les Amis.

-- Loved the "News of the Weird" section. Hard to believe those people and their descendants became fascists and might well run the country.

-- If I did not meet some artsy-fartsy brainy lefty chick at Les Amis and go drink/dance for rest of evening, I would head to the PCL to take advantage of near empty library on Friday nights. Got a lot of grad research done on Friday nights. As a bonus for me, the single dude, it was quite surprising how many good-looking brainy cool single women were at the PCL on Friday nights. 

-- After PCL, I (and the cool women I would sometimes meet) headed to a bar for some late night tequila. 

Good times! 

[Caver60 395]

9 minutes ago, Dnaguy said:

Are you taking about white flight from Schertz, Selma, Universal City, Cibolo?

Interesting.

In regards to SA republicans and their German catholic origins, San Antonio has a fascinating political history.

If you go back, there were political alliances that bucked national trends and would be a fun ‘Yellowstone meets Centennial’ type of story if anyone ever wanted to make one. Freed African Americans allying with German Catholics that held together even after the national shift to the democratic party later in the 20th century. Hell there were rich ass cattle driving Jews as well! Crazy stuff.

Maybe some from those areas but I’m mostly talking about the more affluent portions of Northside and Northeast ISD inside 1604.

[BamaATL 16593]

Daily Georgia EV data dump takeaways:

1.  2.369 million votes now cast

2. Women out pace men by 272k or 55.5% to 44%  (.4% growth from yesterday)

3.  2020 day of voters represent 149k or 6.3% of the total (.3% bump from yesterday)

4.  2020 non voters are 387k, young voters 18 - 29 outpace old ones 65+ by 35k

A little something different today, turn out by Democratic Congressional districts:

GA 2- 138k 25.6%

GA 4 - 138k 26.5%

GA 5 - 162k 26.1%

GA 6 - 182k 36.8%

GA 13 - 167k 27.3%

 

 

[LCHorn 2620]

14 minutes ago, NorthLoop said:

Yeah NB has nearly doubled population in the last 10-15 years. The old guard German population is now a very small percentage of the town. They do have a lot of money though, and mostly vote red. These people aren't really German though other than their last names. Just typical old school small town elites. 

They think of themselves as German, though.  It's another way to distinguish themselves from the Mexicans and everyone else. 

It's also very Aggie despite the fact few are ranching (and fewer are farming). 

[Thatguy 8699]

5 hours ago, Burt said:

Tell us more. And don't leave out any details.

Seriously, why wouldn't he come out? Because he was inside with a MILF, or out of shame? 

The teacher was a petite brunette that all the guys were in love with. She had kids young. Anyway, they were the "hang out house". We were always over there with a boom box shooting in the driveway. However, you would turn around and that dude would always disappear. This went on from 16 to 18. We all graduate and she immediately leaves her husband and they get a place together. like just a few months after walking the stage. So they obviously were fucking when we were kids. They even got married. Kid was 18. Barely.

Fast forward to 2020. The whole Trump thing is going on and one of her sons, who was a friend, is meme-ing it up on FB. He is talking all righteous about George Floyd being a piece of shit and how he deserved what he got. Liberals are ruing this country and how they are all pedophiles. I had enough and messaged him on the side like hey, why are you talking about liberals being pedos when your evangelical mom was fucking a high school kid while being married. He starts clutching his pearls. The entire family blocked me. I think I lose about 30-40 friends the last election cycle. So far this year only a couple.

Thinking back the mom was very touchy with me too. I was too dumb to pick up on the signs though. If I had my current mindset I would've been knocking the bottom out of that on the reg. It has been my experience that evangelical women are dirtier than liberal women. Some of the wildest I have ever had has been the most conservative. I do a golf trip with a bunch of guys every year. My buddy Kevin Galati(rip and one of the owners of MyComputerCareer) was a mormon and was telling us how Mormon wimmenz would regularly have anal sex because they thought it didn't count.

tldr: conservative wimmenz are freaks

[Mez2 4023]

Waited another 4 years to vote against this motherfucking piece of shit and the worthless excuse for a Texan, who also happens to be the zodiac killer. 

In an out in 15 mins this morning in Houston. I'd strap on my gasoline boots and walk through hell vote against them. 

Fuck Trump Fuck Ted Cruz

[DDD Dad 14339]

21 hours ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

Are we talking about good burgers from places you're ashamed to patronize? Because I have seen some shit. 

[BurntOrange&White 39933]

47 minutes ago, Caver60 said:

There's a lot of white flight from north and northeast San Antonio towards NB and Boerne and all points in between. And a whole lot of the people I know are moving/have moved into this belt at least in part because of its social and political conservatism. The whole area has been red for as long as I've been around it (~35 years). German Americans and others frequently fall into that category of R's that despise Trump but don't have the moxy to jump ship.

Won't matter for either as SA extends out(Boerne/NB) and Austin extends down(NB). Only a matter of time for both but Boerne is actively trying to prevent growth but it's inevitable. 

[Js1 85337]

14 minutes ago, BamaATL said:

Daily Georgia EV data dump takeaways:

1.  2.369 million votes now cast

2. Women out pace men by 272k or 55.5% to 44%  (.4% growth from yesterday)

3.  2020 day of voters represent 149k or 6.3% of the total (.3% bump from yesterday)

4.  2020 non voters are 387k, young voters 18 - 29 outpace old ones 65+ by 35k

A little something different today, turn out by Democratic Congressional districts:

GA 2- 138k 25.6%

GA 4 - 138k 26.5%

GA 5 - 162k 26.1%

GA 6 - 182k 36.8%

GA 13 - 167k 27.3%

 

 

Georgia is the only state so far that has eclipsed 40% of 2020 turnout

Vermont, Tennessee, North Carolina, South Dakota, Montana, New Mexico, Arizona, Florida are in the 30-39% range

[Bullneck 19090]

9 hours ago, safe sex said:

Those are AI kids, ick

I didn't know that, but it makes sense.  

No need to traumatize actual children with the official Republican platform.

[LCHorn 2620]

9 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

Boerne is actively trying to prevent growth

Boerne is a nice visit but it’s also the “fuck you, I got mine” capital of Texas.  

[BurntOrange&White 39933]

3 minutes ago, LCHorn said:

Boerne is a nice visit but it’s also the “fuck you, I got mine” capital of Texas.  

It being completely in Kendall County is it's saving grace(for now).

Edited October 25 by BurntOrange&White

[Fudge Nuggets 19190]

11 hours ago, StassneyHorn said:

The people who majored in a liberal arts major and didn’t dual or tri major are wastoids.

axchully.

[The Original Greaser Bob 2833]

Just want to point out that a BA in English with an emphasis in creative writing is kind of a double major.

 

 

[Pato del Muerto 52498]

38 minutes ago, Thatguy said:

tldr: conservative wimmenz are freaks

A Karen in the street but a freak in the sheets 

[BehoId, The Underminer! 11669]

5 minutes ago, The Original Greaser Bob said:

Just want to point out that a BA in English with an emphasis in creative writing is kind of a double major.

 

 

no, its very useful.

[TexEx15 17529]

9 hours ago, Chopper said:

So, the Washington Post...

Yesterday published a map and database that looked like this

Then they realized they missed something and tonight they made a correction:

and now the map looks like this

The incompetent fucks somehow left out donations to the Trump National Committee. https://www.washingtonpost.com/elections/interactive/2024/trump-harris-donors-zip-code-map/

Maybe they were just trying to distinguish between money that went to his actual campaign vs money that went to to his legal bills…

[G650 14256]

8 minutes ago, BehoId, The Underminer! said:

no, its very useful.

 

 

[BehoId, The Underminer! 11669]

9 hours ago, Chopper said:

So, the Washington Post...

Yesterday published a map and database that looked like this

Then they realized they missed something and tonight they made a correction:

and now the map looks like this

The incompetent fucks somehow left out donations to the Trump National Committee. https://www.washingtonpost.com/elections/interactive/2024/trump-harris-donors-zip-code-map/

oh.   that's . . . . very different than what i saw

[BehoId, The Underminer! 11669]

9 hours ago, Chopper said:

Interesting updated chart

lol at the party of law and order

[The Dog 44051]

9 hours ago, wood said:

Pretty strong contrast there between San Marcos and NB. WTF, New Braunfels? Also a little surprised to see Williamson County, Bastrop, and Buda/Kyle so blue and Bastrop & Lockhart blue at all. Good to see.

The surprise to me is how blue Wilco is north of Round Rock. There are great opportunities for the TDP to flip some more offices here but the incumbents from the GOP keep getting re-elected due to the power of incumbency.

That and people here are still pretty conservative - they just don't like crazy.

[trythisathome 971]

Don't know how to feel about the latest NYT Siena poll. I'm very conscious about not huffing pure copium, but at the same time, I have a hard time believing that Trump legitimately has even odds to win the popular vote and that Harris actually lost 3 points nationally within the last 3 weeks. This is such a weird cycle. 

[Js1 85337]

1 minute ago, trythisathome said:

Don't know how to feel about the latest NYT Siena poll. I'm very conscious about not huffing pure copium, but at the same time, I have a hard time believing that Trump legitimately has even odds to win the popular vote and that Harris actually lost 3 points nationally within the last 3 weeks. This is such a weird cycle. 

Nothing at all has moved the popular vote 3 points right.  Nothing has moved this race more than a point in either direction in the last 6 fucking weeks. 

NYT/Siena's national polling has been super fucking Trump friendly. 

[David Dennison 18860]

I really hope the outcome of this election ends the marriage between polling and the mainstream media.

But I know better.

[The Dog 44051]

3 minutes ago, trythisathome said:

Don't know how to feel about the latest NYT Siena poll. I'm very conscious about not huffing pure copium, but at the same time, I have a hard time believing that Trump legitimately has even odds to win the popular vote and that Harris actually lost 3 points nationally within the last 3 weeks. This is such a weird cycle. 

Bread.

[Gatorubet 30238]

11 hours ago, StassneyHorn said:

The people who majored in a liberal arts major and didn’t dual or tri major are wastoids.

it has been my experience that people with a broad liberal arts educational background are very much more capable of creative thinking than business majors - and especially engineers.   It does not mean the latter can’t, it just seems that less of them can.

Fight me!

[Js1 85337]

Just now, The Dog said:

Bread.

Yep, winning bigger in TX/FL and cutting into her huge margin in CA/NY, but not by more than a 1-2 points, is not going to offset her winning MI, PA, WI.  Winning the states he's supposed to win bigger, and losing the states she will win by slightly smaller margins, isn't going to help him in the EC.

But she's still going to win the PV. 

[Gatorubet 30238]

10 hours ago, Gil Bang said:

My HS government teacher was the best fucking teacher I ever had, including college.  He got arrested a few years back for diddling his own granddaughters. 

[locodos 5387]

10 minutes ago, BehoId, The Underminer! said:

no, its very useful.

csb: Was in the Athens airport waiting for a flight.  We were camped out in a crowed little airport cafe and an OLDER couple looked in hopefully to find a seat, but there was no room.  I told them they could sit with us if they liked and they gladly accepted.  I had the kids scrunch down the bench and we managed to get all 6 of us seated around the small 4 top.  The couple was quite old but clearly well travelled and they asked about our trip.  At one point I mentioned how in the Peloponnese the road sign and the city names never seemed to match up and it was slightly confusing.  But I also said that Greek seemed like a difficult language to learn and it probably wasn't worth the hassle.  With a rye smile the old man proceeded for the next 5 mins to tell me all about the benefits of learning ancient Greek. (who knew there were any!)  Evidently he was an antiquities/language professor of some sort at Yale.   Which was cool because I had had the kids watch Kagan's Yale course on the Peloponnesian wars.  He got a chuckle out of that.

PS the difference in the city names on street signs is if they are in Greek/Byzantine Greek/ or some other regional dialect of Greek. But they are used interchangeably.

[Js1 85337]

NYT/Siena has also been very transparent that they oversample Trump voters 

[Bateshorn 9927]

7 minutes ago, Gatorubet said:

it has been my experience that people with a broad liberal arts educational background are very much more capable of creative thinking than business majors - and especially engineers.   It does not mean the latter can’t, it just seems that less of them can.

Fight me!

Man, you know I agree, but the Surly  engineer and On-the-Spectrum crowd is about to pop off for the next couple of hours…

[RomaVicta 29907]

11 hours ago, Bullneck said:

 

 

Now that I'm looking at it again, imagine that image if he isn't on the phone. It goes from being suggestive to borderline pornographic. As it is, why would he make a call from his bed unless to say, "hold all my calls for the next 30 minutes." He's already removed his tie, and she seemingly can't wait to get started.

I'd be interested to see what led to this photo. Was it the photographer's idea? "Mr. Trump, how 'bout we set up in your bedroom with your daugther draped on you on the the bed??

Or was it Donald's? He can create his fantasy image (I hope it remained a fantasy) and thumb his mushroom whenever he likes.

I looked up the photo for a clearer image. Snopes says it appeared in InStyle magazine back in 1995.

[BehoId, The Underminer! 11669]

1 minute ago, Bateshorn said:

engineer and On-the-Spectrum

[The Dog 44051]

That Siena poll also found that low-propensity voters favor Trump slightly (not a surprise - these are the "Trump Only" voters IMHO).

But late deciders are breaking for Harris - not a surprise, as Trump is flailing (and saying stupid shit that hurts his campaign) and Harris is working overtime to reach out to these voters. 

[CooterBrown 18012]

All I see with these fucking polls is that more than two weeks out, they create rage content about a Trump lead to drive clicks and ad revenue.  As we get down the home stretch, they'll shift their analysis towards Harris gaining ground, a Harris lead, and then a Harris victory.  On November 6th, they'll crow about how well their polls predicted the outcome every step of the way.

Fuck them polls.

 

Edited October 25 by CooterBrown

[Brisketexan 105139]

3 minutes ago, locodos said:

csb: Was in the Athens airport waiting for a flight.  We were camped out in a crowed little airport cafe and an OLDER couple looked in hopefully to find a seat, but there was no room.  I told them they could sit with us if they liked and they gladly accepted.  I had the kids scrunch down the bench and we managed to get all 6 of us seated around the small 4 top.  The couple was quite old but clearly well travelled and they asked about our trip.  At one point I mentioned how in the Peloponnese the road sign and the city names never seemed to match up and it was slightly confusing.  But I also said that Greek seemed like a difficult language to learn and it probably wasn't worth the hassle.  With a rye smile the old man proceeded for the next 5 mins to tell me all about the benefits of learning ancient Greek. (who knew there were any!)  Evidently he was an antiquities/language professor of some sort at Yale.   Which was cool because I had had the kids watch Kagan's Yale course on the Peloponnesian wars.  He got a chuckle out of that.

PS the difference in the city names on street signs is if they are in Greek/Byzantine Greek/ or some other regional dialect of Greek. But they are used interchangeably.

My wife does theology work.  The other day, I was working from home for part of the day.  I was working on a pretty complex appellate brief, writing some good shit, feeling pretty smarty-pants.  Then I realize that she's sitting across from me working with four different books open, preparing to teach on a text that she was reading in the original greek.  She was getting frustrated because a word had two slightly different/nuanced translations, so she was looking at two different secondary sources on that word -- not on the whole text, just that word.

I didn't feel as smarty-pants after that.

I did think it was kinda hot, though.